If TTC # 2 has turned you into a nut job this thread is for you! (Part 3)

[fedupofrainydays]

Still here, still ttc, still POAS, still symptom spotting, still counting days, still temping, still shagging and still absolutely nutty!!!

Well... I'm already forgetting to temp. How do you remember to do it when you wake up?! I wake up and get up cos I need the loo! Oh well.

Thanks for the hug geta and yes, DH is great. He's really disappointed too but trying to stay up beat as there is no point us both being down about it all.

I know how you feel geta ttc makes shagging such a chore sometimes. I'm going to be ovulating when we are away with friends so its all going to be a bit difficult this month. Oh well.
I have my colposcopy next thurs too which am a bit nervous about but at least they can address anything wrong.

Hope everyone is ok. DS birthday this weekend. He should have had a sibling by now but no, he's getting a cake instead :(

Have you read the 'do you dunk your penis?' Thread. Actually made me cry with laughter. Have a look

Http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/1875847-Do-you-dunk-your-penis

Morning ladies.

So much for my shagathon. DH has been ill, so we dtd on tues (cd7) but that's it. Today should be ovulation day so fingers crossed he can do it tonight and tomorrow. Have also broached him about an afternoon session whilst dd is having her nap!! I'm sympathetic but also a little annoyed/disappointed. He is too to be fair.

Hope your ds enjoys his birthday, fedup. How old is he?

sebsmum why did she tell you that? She could've just said that she said you would conceive!

Hi geta (waves!!)

He he 2be . I am not laughing at your husband being poorly, more your attitude to it lol. I would be exactly the same, I would just request he lays still and not sneeze or cough on me and I'd get on top and get the job done . Poor man.

Oh god I have no idea why my mother thought she would convey that helpful message to me. She thinks she is doing something nice, but doesn't realise it just makes me feel worse.

I ordered some preseed yesterday, it's a sperm friendly lubricant that's meant to help the sperm swim better to meet the egg. I've heard some good things about it so thought what the hell. Also ordered two clearblue digis for well after a missed period date. No more squinting at crappy ICs, it's too upsetting.

Ds is going to be 2. I've just finishing buying all the ingredients for my cake extraordinaire for the year! Yikes.

I used preseed but DH didn't get on with it as lost the friction if you get what I mean!! So don't use it any more..

I think I'm going to be away with work for peak fertility days next week. Hope not. Will see what opks and temping say though as mine seen to vary by up to a week - ov can be range from day 8 to day 15. My lp is always 13 days though.

Hope your DH is feeling better 2be

Hi ladies!

Hope the cake went well!! Really hoping you get to dtd at least once or twice in your fertile period.

Sebs - I'm a frer girl. You don't get even a hint of a line with those. They are expensive but I 'only' used two this month!!

DH is better now, thanks. We dtd yest, cd10 which is when I have ovulated recently. With the amount of 'spillage' afterwards though makes me think that it wasn't. So missing Thursday might not have been a bad thing after all.

Hi 2b good luck with the DTD. Hope you get plenty of chances!

Fedup - how'd the cake go? I completely went overboard with the cake for DS second birthday.... A 3d tractor. Gosh it was an undertaking and a very lonnnggg night. He did appreciate it though, bless his little face!

Well day 28 for me and started spotting on SaTurday (day 26) so not sure if the b6 is doing a good thing or not? Has kind of extended my luteal phase, but if I'm spotting from day 26 is that actually longer?

Do u count spotting as AF starting? It's really light, only on the loo roll and a pinky brown colour?

Thinking of acupuncture to try and bring ovulation forward a bit. Not sure if any of this is the problem or if it just not our time yet.

Hey - onwards and upwards - loving DS's development at the moment so taking the approach that I'm getting to spend more time with him.

6 weeks left or work - bring on end of Nov!

2be, that's really interesting you mentioned 'spillage'. I assume you are saying that when you are in the fertile window your cervix is open and do less sperm leaks back out? I had never thought of that.

Hi girls, not sure if you remember me.. I posted a few weeks ago as I got my BFP 2 weeks after AF.. and had been lurking here for months. Well unfortunately my woman's intuition, or whatever you want to call it about the pregnancy was right, and Thursday night I was rushed into hospital for emergency surgery on a ruptured ectopic pregnancy. Apparently according to the surgeon AF when pregnant is one of the warning signs of ectopic. Just a shame all my visits to the EPAU in the last few weeks, early scans, blood tests, etc didnt pick that one up.. or anything else actually.. or my right tube might not have had to be removed, and I might not have nearly died!

Anyway, the surgeon has said I can't start ttc again for at least 3 months as my body needs to heal from the surgery, which makes sense, though is gutting. So I will continue lurking, and keeping my fingers crossed for all you lovely ladies, and hopefully all being well in 3 months time I will be back to say hi and start the POAS fun all over again.

MissHooHaa I have read you start counting AF from the first day you have a heavy bleed, not spotting.

Wishing you all BFPs and successful sticky beans (in the right place!) very soon
xxxx

Hey miss. You're not supposed to start on cd1 until AF has properly appeared. I know what you mean about dc development. Dd is really learning at the moment and is a joy to spend time with. But when I see her with other babies I see what a good sister she'd be and I really wish I could give her a sibling.

Sebs. I don't know enough about how out bodies change during ovulation. I presumed that it was due to the ewcm that I get less leakage when I ovulate. It's purely anecdotal that I've spotted this though - nothing scientific at all!!

Oh punky I am so so sorry . That is so shocking that you have had to go through all of that and none of the early scans or tests picked it up. Terrifying!!! I don't know anything about ectopic pregnancies but I know how serious they are and I am so sorry you have had to go through what you have. Massive hugs xxxxx

2be -ah ok, it does make sense though. I know the cervix opens to allow the sperm to go through so I assume you will get less spillage when you are fertile.

Punky - poor you! Hope you and DH/dP are doing ok. How scary for you. Lots of rest and pampering in order

Oh punky that is so horrdendous. I hope you both are ok - it must all be a bit traumatic. And crap that they didnt pick this up at epau, really crap.

So DS is 2 today and the cake worked!!! I still feel sad when I see him with other babies as like 2be said he would make a great brother and I'm so longing to give him a sibling. He loves babies.

miss like everyone else said... Cd 1 is from full flow.. Not spotting. Accupuncture is supposed to help with spotting so maybe give that a whirl. B6 won't change ovulation, just perhaps your luteal phase, although I have read there is no scientific evidence that b6 works. But also heard real life people who think it does!!

Sorry punky - not ignoring you, have only just seen.

That sounds so scary. It must've been truly truly awful. The enforced 3 month wait might give you a chance to come to terms with it all and what it means to only have one tube now (will that make ttc harder or does it not make much difference?) look after yourself x x

Thanks everyone. I won't lie, it was pretty horrific, and now I am just trying to get myself better from the surgery so I can start looking after DH and DS again. I am staying with my parents now to recover as I can't do much on my own yet. I need to lie down for half an hour if I just manage to make a cup of coffee.. not quite ready to be looking after my very boisterous DS again!

2be yes, they do push the waiting for 3 months, not only because there is an increased chance of another ectopic if you don't wait for the internal inflammation to go down, but the whole emotional recovery aspect, and being strong again for the general highs and lows of ttc again. They do say having 1 tube makes things a bit harder, but in recent years the research shows it is not as bad as they used to think. Maybe only 10% difference. I've also been reading the mumsnet ectopic support group, and most of the original posters have had babies successfully since theirs which gives me hope. My biggest fear now is that I have a much higher risk of another ectopic now I have had one (10% compared to 2% for the general population)... though they say I will be monitored closely by the EPAU for any subsequent pregnancies I have to say that still didn't help me this time!!

fedup My DS is 2 today! I didn't manage to make him a cake for obvious reasons. Was so annoyed as I bought lots of bits, and was going to try to do some models of the gruffalo, peppa pig, thomas the tank, etc and stick them on top of a cake. Never done anything like that before but was excited about trying. Will have to wait for next year I guess(!) He is at home today though (near Birmingham), while I am still at my parents house in Surrey. We are hoping to celebrate this weekend instead and MIL is going to make a cake. Not quite the birthday I planned for him, but at least he is only 2 so does not know any different!

Hi Punky, bless you, you sound like you are dealing with it like a trooper, so hope you feel OK soon. Your DS will enjoy his cake when he is 3! My friend had an ectopic and has since gone on to conceive 2 DC since, so I'm sure you will be able to have more children very soon.

So my spotting became a little red yesterday, popped in a tampon and went on my merry way, been focusing on other stuff than babies this month so felt OK about it. Took it out yesterday and there was no blood just some brown discharge. TMI - I'm sorry!
This morning still the same, and had some AF cramps. Spotting has become less all morning so decided to whip down to boots, I needed to know!

Anyway it appears that we have lift off - BFP!! Can't quite believe it, but so chuffed. Just need it to stick now. DH is so excited, I ran into his office bearing my wee covered stick and he was thrilled. Phew! Nearly 6 months trying (DS 1 was a surprise so we never knew what a rollercoaster this would be).

So I always want the BFP girls to tell me their methods and syptoms. So here goes.

I have been taken a b6 supplement (b50) from H&B for the last 2 months to try and lengthen my luteal phase)
We had sex on day 14,15,16,17 and 18 I think and I usually OV around day 16. Day 15 was a drunken shag, like a proper teenage bonk. I had had a bottle of rose so was feeling quite merry and we had a really fun night with some friends. I guess we actually wanted to DTD rather than TTC.
I did some wicked legs in the air on all these occasions, and I'm talking legs up on the bed head with some pillows underneath to help gravity.
I also had a much better month at work, including resigning! So perhaps the relief of knowing I only have a few weeks left struggling with my monster job has helped.
I also lit a candle at church, DH is catholic, I'm not but sometimes go along with him, so decided to send one upstairs!

All in all I think we stressed less, drank more and just got lucky.

I've been feeling lightheaded and nausea since about 7 DPO for a good week, but thought it was too early and must have been a virus. Appears not. Also quite tired, but no more than I usually convince myself.

So now onto the dreaded 12 week wait. Hoping it sticks, and I really hope we get a couple more BFP soon. I'm going to stick with you girls for a while, I don't like the bus, too many people!

xx

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH Congrats Miss!!!!! So soooooo happy for you :-) Thanks also for the tips.. I will be keeping all of this in mind for January :-)

Will be keeping everything crossed for your 12 week wait..

lots of love.xxx

Awwww miss that was a lovely post, huge congratulations xxxxxxxx

Congrats miss great news!
I'm partic interested in the resigning from job one... As this is one thing I'm debating. Have you found something else or just seeing what happens? I don't want to do my job anyone. It's stressed, involves working away a lot and I miss my boys too much. BUT I also don't want to move to something too noddy that I'm bored and not challenged a bit professionally. Tough one.

I have a confession. I POAS today as been feeling 'off' for a while despite af just finishing. Sadly I didn't have the same news as miss but I kind of new that to be honest.

Sorry to hear that fedup. I still have done ICs as well as two clearblue digital and I'm quite sure I'll be using the ICs once I get twitchy around dpo 6 or 7

Well I have some exciting news!! I have hugely stretchy (I actually measured it lol!!) EWCM at cd 10. This is massive news for me as my luteal phase has been too short recently due to breast feeding I think. Last month I had EWCM at cd 13/14 and ovulated cd17/18. Hopefully this means I will ovulate around cd14 and have a standard luteal phase

We've been doing lots of BDing as I've been a horny gal and I just assumed it was practise. But maybe not!!

Thanks all! Feeling pretty nervous, and now stressing that I have a bit of spotting but I read it's normal so will just take one day at a time.

fedup I don't have anything to go to, in a similar position to you, taking a proper part-time job would be step down for me as I am a manager and PT manager roles are few and far between. But my DH business is taking off, so hoping to lend him a hand. The PT role I had was a full time workload with too much responsibility for the pay and hours I was contracted for. I have been there a while so feels like a good move to just take a step back. Things will be seriously tight money wise but we've done a budget and think we can make do so looking forward to my last day in about 6 weeks - especially with the BFP!

Hooray for mucus seb (that's a weird sentence! xx

Try not to worry about the spotting, it's normal I hear!
Thanks for your story. I'm the same. A manager struggling with a PT role with FT workload!!
I want to start my own business and hopefully will do after dc #2 if we ever have one!
I think you are brave to take that step and I think I may follow you in the new yr if not up duffed. I need to take control back.

I've got this feeling I'm going to have twins. Not shared that with anyone in RL as they will think I'm mad (which I clearly am!!) but I just think I will.... Or maybe it's just my excuse for not being up duffed yet after my mc in feb ;)

If you measured it sebs how far did it stretch?!?! Measuring cm is a first for me!!! On the cm chat, without too much info, mine was really quite tough last month.. Almost more rubbery than egg white (which I think is more watery). Is anyone else's ewcm more rubbery than watery? Can't help but think the swimmers will find that one a bit tough going...

Ha ha, 6 inches fed up before it snapped

Wow!! Congratulations miss!!! That's excellent news. I too have heard that spotting is really common in successful pregnancies so fingers crossed for you.

I'm now in 2ww. I think I ovulated later than usual so am on 2 dpo now. I have one frer which I'm going to try to save for as long as poss before peeing on it!

Fedup - constantly thinking about twins. I don't think I'll have them (we have no history in our family at all) but I just can't get it out of my head. DH would be petrified!!!!

Hi all. Been thinking of you ladies, but finding it difficult to come on here. I am feeling really sad abut the whole ttc thing. One of my pals told me she is pregnant today - she is due the same tine I would have been had I not early mc in june.

Punky, I am just so, so sorry you've been through such a traumatic event. Sounds like you had a lucky escape with them finally finding the ectopic. What a relief. I'm sure your boy won't mind a postponed birthday. And a shop bought/not all singing all dancing cake will be fine on the weekend! Hope you're recovering well. Take it easy.

Hoohah - CONGRATS! That is fantastic news. We needed a bit of bfp action. Thanks for the info too, it's helpful to know.

Fedup - what dpo are you?

How are you getting on 2be? Coming up to shagathon week?

I don't know what is going on with me this month. My chart seems a bit irregular. Still no crosshairs and it's normally quite clear by now as I should be about 7 dpo. Know I'm not pregnant this month and have a hideous case of thrush which I've even managed to pass to dh who has a very sore willy indeed!

Good luck to all who need it XXX