Whether icing, twotting, or in need of a dip in the pity paddling pool, come stroke the friendly orange cave unicorn with us. (Chocolate pretzels are on the house). It's JUST SHAGGING THREAD 17!

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Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

The link to Part 16 is here

The link to the latest grads thread is here

Happy shagging shaggers!

zing a thread about mucus you all agreed should be deleted???? I'm intrigued!

Sod is really getting around with his saw Dulcet. Hope he swings by my way!

I've got sunburnt shoulders from yesterday. It wasn't even bloody sunny and I'm really careful. Ouchy!

Congratulations Choc!!!!! I'm still loitering around here, too scared to fully graduate

Oh bear, le sod only seems to work in non-TTC areas of my life so far. Tested this morning and still BFN so think I am probably just awaiting AF now. Was last chance to get preggers before wedding too. Stupid womb!

Morning viroids!

Still no ertd here, v annoying. Can't even be arsed to piar anymore cos I know I'm barren. Still, went horse riding this morning and galloped about like a teenager without having to worry about falling off.

Sil is coming to stay tonight so looking forward to that as we get on really well.

cookie I'd have cracked and told a few close people too.

red I've never had turkey burgers! Sounds good!

No other news. It's going to rain later, that'll feel weird!

Bon weekend lovely shaggers.

With gorgeous nephew, two and a half. He is such a good reason to want a baby. He's so great!

Hooray for nephew fun, dulcet. We have friends coming over tonight with their two relatively well-behaved, very sweet kids, so I am looking forward to that.

This is the worst TWOT ever since I am flummoxed by my cycle and have no idea when ERTD is due. Maybe three days? DH was grabbing my boobs this morning and poking my stomach and essentially doing all the symptom spotting for me. (I feel normal, he's the one who's not normal!)

I got a confirmation letter from the reproductive medicine place, with very thorough instructions on how to get my forms in order, etc. The last paragraph is about their policy on children in the waiting room -- namely, kids are not allowed because "we are sensitive to the many emotions of infertility." I have to say, that makes a lot of sense. So far I am liking their attention to those kinds of details.

Had to come and mark a place being as the last thread was exciting and full of bfps. I just read rock's post and thought 'yes I'm scared to graduate too' but then I realised I've been scared to graduate for 32 weeks and should probably man up and move on just go.

That all sounds very sensible and promising Red.

You're always welcome back Frog! Wow- 32 weeks already? Where has that gone?

Well, looks like I'm out for this month. Again. Just thought I had some cm and went to the loo but turns out I am bleeding instead mid-cycle. I've had it before so I'm guessing it's anovulatory bleeding. Why don't I work like I'm supposed to?

Oh and it's started raining.

Oh bear. I'm sorry, how crap.

Thanks Essie.

Although I've just looked it up again for the zillionth time and it does also say it can mean ovulation too, or one of a million other things. So basically no one knows conclusively.

Off to read my book and indulge myself in a cry.

for you.

Though I have heard that some women can experience spotting or bleeding when icing too. have you used contraband?

bear

Bear urgh I just don't know what to say. I'm so cross at stoopid af she is the devil. Big squeeeeezy hug sent to you! !

Erm so I went to tell my dad today and he just gave me a huge hug. I hugged him and then pulled away looked at my mum and said 'you told him?' And she said yes she was to excited to keep quiet

Aww, Bear, I'm sorry - bodies are stupid things.

I survived work but haven't been useful for much afterwards. OH tried to initiate dtd this morning (he says he just wanted a cuddle but there was nudity and stealth poking) and all I wanted was just one more hour of sleep before getting up for work. I get an F for effort, clearly.

so sweet cookie :-) it's fun telling folk.

F for effort but that really made me laugh!

bear as an optimistic voice....could the timing fit for implantation?

How much poking around did they do on Thursday? could be linked to that and not your cycle? Have a hug, , from me.

cookie it must have been lovely telling your family. I don't plan to tell anyone when I get my bfo except dh of course! but I imagine that will go out the window when I get there. my mum will probably guess.

I'm doing quite well at not symptom spotting but 2 things have struck me as odd. on Thursday I was working at a clients office and a really strong smell of garlic cooking came in the window. it made me feel quite sick but I normally love garlic. then today we had dominos for tea and the herb dip and cheese dough balls garlic oil tasted off to me. again very odd and normally what I enjoy in a dominos. I have no expectation that it means anything other than I'm losing my mind. in fact I'm so convinced its not happened this cycle I was drinking and eating brie yesterday. funny how we can't ignore this TTC lark even when we don't feel it could be possible.

aloho if I woke to nudity and poking with intent id wonder who I was in bed with. dh really only does want a cuddle in the mornings! sooo with u on the extra sleep though!

I think spooning with intent on 5 hours of sleep should be a crime punishable by no less than 3 footrubs and breakfast in bed .

lil

I knew I was pg before tests showed PFB with some of them as our normal tap water suddenly tasted like burnt tyre smell and red peppers tasted how motor oil smells.

and the most bizarre one was whenni cooked some soup, left the kitchen for half an hour, went back to kitchen, smell made me feel so sick I puked into the kitchen sink!

that was that, I just knew it and was later proven right!

so fx.when are you POAS?

lil

I knew I was pg before tests showed BFP with some of them when our normal tap water suddenly tasted like burnt tyre smell and red peppers tasted how motor oil smells!

and the most bizarre one was whenni cooked some soup, left the kitchen for half an hour, went back to kitchen, smell made me feel so sick I puked into the kitchen sink!

that was that, I just knew it and was later proven right!

so fx.when are you POAS?