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Poutintrout ·
22/07/2013 09:37
lemons I am so glad that everything is going so well for you and am keeping my FX for you.
buzzy I am pleased that your scan went well and will await FB pics 
cosmos How do they do a scratch? Really hoping that this is the magic bullet for you.
doll Exciting times for you coming up. Wishing you well with everything.
sea 2 announcements 
Willing that it will indeed be "your turn" very, very soon 
gin Half way? No way! You made me smile in a bitter sweet way when you said that you still check for AF. I wonder if every woman does that or if it is only in hard won pregnancies.
I've been thinking of joycep alot lately and wondering whether anyone messages her off board and can confirm that she is okay? I think I have had her in my thoughts so much because of Kate Middleton's imminent arrival and how much it used to bug her! Well ladies it looks like we will need to brace ourselves for the royal baby onslaught shudders and pukes a bit in my mouth
Buzzybee123 ·
22/07/2013 11:52
pout I can't believe how mad they are about royal birth down under 
i'll be glad when its all over with to be honest
Sea two announcements it is your turn soon
gin half way :) it has flown by, no DVD or scary 3D scans the baby's head was stuck so just getting the pictures was hard work, the only person I plan to show the pictures we do have to is MIL, I always check my underwear and my boobs every morning
doll you are one busy lady
Joy I too hope you are ok and just having a break from MN
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Poutintrout ·
22/07/2013 16:55
pushes trolley down the carriage offering coffees and teas on the IVF train
euro your holiday went quickly. Glad that you had a good time. How Is MrEuro's tooth?
rabbits I'm pleased that you too had a good holiday. at your lazy ovulation. Have you been doing the sticks? I'm wondering whether you have ovulated but it has been one of those "easy" ovulation months with little PMS/Post ovulatory symptoms. Tis a bummer about the baseline testing.
buzzy Jeez I'm sick of the royal baby already. I really don't understand the fascination.
Buzzybee123 ·
22/07/2013 17:23
sticks foot out to stop trolley for a long cool drink
pout my friends sister is obsessed with it in Aussieland, I take it she is still pushing the thing out, I suppose its better than talking about sport right now
euro glad you had a good time, fingers crossed for the pre IVF BFP
rabbit when you say CD22 is this from the last lot of bleeding? Miscarriages can muck up your next cycle, I didn't ovulate the month after mine
I left my brolly on the floor, Kayla came to investigate and scared herself stupid, she actually jumped backwards
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MuddyWellyNelly ·
22/07/2013 18:01
Hey ladies. Royal baby?? What?? Not heard anything about that 
. In all seriousness though it is so OTT that it is ridiculous. It actually doesn't bother me - the attention is mental.
So I had a weird month. AF was due Wed or Thurs and it didn't turn up. No spotting. Cue me getting my hopes up. Nope, turned up on Saturday. Fuxake. Ah well. At least I can get drunk on my holidays.
Rabbit sorry about your stress. I agree it is probably the after-effects I your CP.
Glad you had a nice time Euro but sorry it was too short.
How is being PUPO Lemon?
Gin half way, eek!
Sorry for incomplete catch up. I too worry about Joy. Euro are you in touch with her?
Better go, off out again. PS Friday's pub was fun and I had several cocktails in defiance of my missing AF. Just as well, as it turns out!
rabbitonthemoon ·
22/07/2013 19:58
euro here is a big squeeze. That is so hard. I really, seriously, have every faith that you WILL be able to come on here and say you are 6 months pregnant. The fact that you were pregnant is an excellent indicator that it is just a matter of time. And you should absolutely use here to say the things that you can't say in real life. To help you with this I will state that I'm irked by Aplusness right now in the highest order. It makes my blood simmer. Talking of which, hot yoga in a heatwave does funny things to your interval body thermostat. I've not stopped sweating since I came out.
Nelly. I feel inner rage that your missing period dared to arrive. I'm glad you cocktailed. My wine intake has probably been more than my 8 unit allowance since the sun started shining.
I love love love the heatwave
joycep ·
23/07/2013 12:29
Hi ladies, I?ve been smoked out of my hole by Euro. She found me all wrapped up in my union jack outside the Lindo Wing at St Mary?s Hospital where I have been waiting for the last few months in great anticipation. I was hoping I would see all of you down there sucking up the excitement so imagine my disappointment.
No sorry I have been awol for a bit. I decided to try and mentally detox after my holiday as I don?t know whether you remember but I wasn?t very happy (I was very cross and upset and in a bait about everything). I was very conscious I had nothing positive to say and I just had to get myself back on track. So I thought I would go MN free and try and work it out of my system for a few months. I have had MN and FF black out but I have been meaning to come on and catch up. I do keep thinking of you all a lot and have been wondering how everyone has been getting on. Now you?ll have to put up with an extra long post!!
I have glanced back the last few pages of this thread and will try and find the other one to see what I have missed. Have there been any bfps?? Any other news I have missed?
I am pleased to read our lovely pregnant 10 plussers are doing well. Buzz ? am absolutely thrilled for you. Does it feel real? And/Gin/Doll/Critter ? yippee, sounds like things are progressing well. Gin ? it?s quite sobering reading how you are finding it all so surreal after all this time. It must be so so odd but I find it so pleasing to hear that you were someone who didn?t believe it could happen but it did! are Sar and Art around?. The pregnancies and births on here are true royal births in my eyes ? very very special and very deserved and won in a warrior style.
Rabbit ? have you had an early miscarriage? I can?t believe it, I am just so sorry. That?s terrible news. What are your plans now?
Lemons ? sounds like you have had a great haul and are now pupo. Yippee. I hope you are able to get through the next 10 days or so calmly. Wishing you every bit of luck.
Sea ? how are you doing? Where are you at now? Have you done the latent tb stuff yet?
Mrsd lovely, how are you doing? I see your cycles are buggered after ivf ? mine are too, they are all over the place. I don?t even think I ovulate any more! When do you think you will cycle again?
Euro ? as I said in my text, I am so sorry about the CP. It?s difficult to know whether it?s comforting that something is at least happening with you and you clearly are getting embies but I guess it raises other questions. Do you think you?ll go for intrallipids? Also I think I last left you when you were having a nightmare smear situation, did all that sort itself out?
Poutster ? have you had your FET yet? Poor big dog but I hope he?s ok.
Mad ? I hope you are having a good holiday before the next round. I hope you?ve been well.
Nelly are you around and what are your plans?
Lovely Cosmos, are you FETting soon?? I see you have had an endometrial scratch. What a good idea! It?s important to try different things I reckon.
So I have been awol trying to concentrate on the things I can control and trying not to focus on the uncontrollable (I.e the baby thing). It?s work in progress. Roy and I (well I dragged him) had a meeting with a wonderful nutritionist who a lot of people use at my clinic. It was something I vowed I would never do as I thought my diet was fine. Anyway she really focused on Roy and gave him a good talking to and aims to get his sperm supersonic rather than just normal. I now find I spend a lot of time in the kitchen preparing meals, introducing a lot of colour in to the cooking. Roy has to eat all sorts of odd stuff. I?m also on about 7 supplements a day. So it will be fascinating to see if there is any difference in our next round of ivf and whether we will get some frosties. I mean can nutrition really help? We can only try our best.
I have been struggling to get the last 5lbs of ivf weight off though but I have just come out of the most horrendous 4 day bout of severe gastroenteritis with dysentery having eaten a lamb burger in Soho last week. It was a horror show. I went to the loo over 70 times in 48 hours. I was so worried I took myself off to hospital where I was told I was malnourished and dehydrated. Anyway bingo, the 5lbs have gone! And I tell you if I get rid of these haemmeroids which quite frankly I was not going to avoid with that going on down there, then I think I could lose half a stone. Bonus!
Also don?t laugh but I have started hypnotherapy. The first woman I went to see was really strange and her website claimed she specialised in fertility hypnotherapy. I didn?t get a good vibe from her. Felt she may harbour a bit of bitterness about babies herself and then when she had heard about my 3 years of fertility woes, she started prying in to my parents and my childhood which unfortunately for her was actually a very happy one. Even so, she thought she would then try and regress me, ?you are loved Joy, you are loved, hear the crashing waves, birds singing, you are loved.?. WTF?! I was laughing hysterically in my head and wondering how the hell I had got in to that situation. I am no expert but I don?t think my fertility fears have anything to do with my childhood.
Anyway I have found another hypno. I?m not sure I get hypnotised though but I think I just like someone to talk to and make sense of all the emotions it brings and also I find it helps me think about my attitude. I guess it?s a form of counseling. She totally gets it and importantly only deals with infertility. I now do this thing, which I in fact made up and I lie down and imagine an empty suitcase and I see myself filling it with the last 3 years of rubbish ? blood tests, iui, miscarriages, lap, hysteos, doctor appointments, erpc, preggo announcements and I just zip the case up and I toss it in to a river and imagine it washing away. I basically am training my mind to consign all this crap in to history and just to put it down as an experience. I want to forget about it and concentrate on the now rather than thinking the past will reflect the future. I know it?s sounds wacky and weird but I really was letting it drag me down so much. I kept dwelling on everything that has happened and feeling sorry for myself and of course the sad and bitter emotions do crop up but I have to then try and nip it in the bud.
The hypno woman is also trying to teach me to embrace other people?s pregnancies?she tells me to embrace it , to be happy for people because I?m in the queue and it will be my turn one day. This is really hard to believe but again it?s all about attitude and making life?s little moments easier to deal with. She told me to do this a week after my BiL told us they were expecting their 3rd child. I didn?t take the news well. I was furious for about 2 days and I think particularly because they have always been quite smug and superior about being parents. The thought that my first pregnancy was due before their 2nd and now they were having their 3rd effortlessly just seemed greedy in my eyes and would just encourage them to go on and on about their perfect family. Yes the bitter bitch inside certainly rose to the fore on that announcement. The very next day after this one my BF sent me a text to say she was pregnant. She had rung me about 2 weeks earlier saying she was cross with her DH because this was their first month of trying and they had only managed to dtd once because he has issues in that area. But nope, just the once was enough. Weirdly I was genuinely happy for her. I still had to go home and have a little cry for us though. Wasn?t quite so thrilled when I next saw BF and she was telling me how clever her body was. She banged on about it for several minutes and how proud her DH was to be so virile even though he has been smoking 20 a day for the last 20 years. Tact is not her strong point!
So in the last few months I have had my lump removed, it was the size of a ping pong ball. So pleased that is gone. I?ve taken up yoga. I?m as bendy as a lamp post but I hope it will make me stronger. My periods are still up the spout but this last one was the first time I didn't experience that awful pain I was so worried about. I hope I can forget about the fear of Ashermans now. Touch wood.
My parents spoke to my grandmother who has been unbelievably kind and given us some money towards one last treatment. They control her money and chequebook and when I thanked her profusely she didn't really know anything about it. I have quickly cashed the cheque. I am very thankful and so lucky to get this last shot because it wasn?t looking likely. So I think The plan is Roy and I will go back to the same clinic one last time, not my next period but the one after sometime which I think will come around the end of Aug/start of Sep. I am going to do everything I can to get intrallipids rather than ivig this time and I just hope the stars and planets are all lined up. Sometimes I think that out of all the eggs I have left, one has got to be viable.
Phew this is long!
Poutintrout ·
23/07/2013 17:01
joy I am so, so pleased that you are okay. Hurrah! It sounds like you have had a very eventful few months. You had me sniggering with your hypnotherapy tales. Bet you never thought in a million years that in pursuit of a baby you would find yourself "listening to the crashing waves" while somebody tried to foist childhood ishoos on you So glad that you have found somebody else and it has been useful. I like your empty suitcase idea.
Oh goodness at the gastroenteritis. How grim but all that weight loss is fab! Where can I find this purveyor of such fine cuisine and grade A salmonella? Are you feeling better?
Please also accept a medal for your heroic handling of your BF's pregnancy announcement. Exceptionally virile my arse. Lucky, just damned lucky!
Hurrah for the funds for another round of IVF.
I just knew you would be one of the first ones at the hospital waiting for news of the royal birth. Sadly I couldn't get my union jack flag pressed in time for the occasion
mrsd did you get to the bottom of whether your friend has some baby news?
nelly It is all indeed curious. Maybe your ovulation was a bit out. IVF has done strange things to my ovulation.
Had another hospital appointment today. I am going for the natural FET and am awaiting my period to start (imminent) after which time I will be advised when to commence OPK testing. Let the squinting at lines and the collecting of pissy sticks on a bit of tissue on the toilet cistern to compare colour saturation begin! Disgusting but yet still strangely more appealing than a pot of pot pourri
Buzzybee123 ·
23/07/2013 17:04
Joy So good to hear from you, the hypo sounds interesting a colleague at work tried it, I hope you had a lovely holiday, I'm not sure about embracing other peoples pregnancies, that is tough, we went to a party on Saturday and pregnant friend was there, I have to admit I didn't feel comfortable at first sorry about your BIL and BF, but remember if she has to tell herself that her body is clever what does that say about her mind.
Its good to take charge and change things in your life :) so well done on taking control
nelly sorry about the AWOL AF
it sounds like a few of you will be doing IVF come Aug/Sept :)
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lovesLemonDrizzleCake ·
23/07/2013 17:30
Hello all!
Glad you made it to the front of the scrum and came back to tell us about it, joy. I am so pleased to read how your post. It really sounds like things are going a lot better and that FF and MN detox done you good. Fingers crossed for the last round, and I am sure one or more of them are viable! Welcome back!
I was hiding from MN for my waiting weeks, but failed :) so here I am. Not much to tell, I have loads of progesterone symptoms, which I bloody well should considering I am shoving it up my foof three times a day. SB and I had a really good chat about teh cycle - our conclusion was it went better than expected, and providing I don't have to combine devil's juice and the pill again, we'd consider another cycle - and alternative routes to parenthood. So I was very at ease about it all on Sunday. Not so now, of course
Massive handhold euro. Dates SUCK. Your time will come, but meanwhile this really hurts.
Sorry about awol AF, nelly. But cocktails in the sun sound a good plan.
Your heatwave yoga sounds, errr, drippy rabbit. I hope you're okay!
Wow, pout fetching Colin home is imminent. Everything crossed for you and for successful squinting at the sticks!
Waves to all the others! Too tired to name check properly!
seaviewasia ·
24/07/2013 07:21
PUPO Lemon ? I hope the wait is not driving you mad. I have all my fingers and toes crossed for you.
Pout ? It?s getting close?. How do you feel about this upcoming FET. I really hope this is the one!
Mrsd ? Sorry your cycles are still playing up. I hope it settles soon. Did you doctors say when they might go back to normal? I am the same re the royal baby. I really can?t stand it anymore. Nothing to do with my lack of fertility mind. I just don?t understand why people would queue up for hours to get a look. I was on walking near Buckingham Palace and St Marys the last couple of days and it was mobbed. Who are these people that camp out? They are just weird and alien to me.
Joy ? It?s so so nice to hear you. I am glad the mental detox has worked. Hypno and nutritionist doesn?t sound weird at all. I went to a hypno many years ago and I found it very helpful indeed. As for nutrition, I think it can definitely help. I have changed my diet since starting to TTC but MrSea thinks it?s all rubbish. It would be impossible for me to convince him otherwise as his sperm count was good for both my IUIs. What kind of foods are you making? Maybe I can sneak some into MrSea?s dinner.
As for trying to embrace other people?s pregnancies, I think that?s a really healthy approach. I think hate, envy and jealous can eat us up and do us more harm than good. It?s fine to acknowledge we are sad it?s not us but the other ugly emotion doesn?t help us. Every time I get an A+ announcement I remind myself that it?s not a zero sum game. I am always happy for friends. It?s those loud mouths that have really questionable morals that I really have difficulty with. Instant diff-ers do bother me though but only because I have had so many ignorant comments from them. A classic is ?women only need IVF because they wait till they are too old to have kids?? I started TTC when I was 31 so I hardly think it was that! Anyway? I think what you are doing is great. Also delighted to hear you are going back to ARGC. I will be cycling there in Oct I hope. It?s actually the earliest I can do as I am travelling every month before then and I have other (NK) issues to resolve first.
Free ? Well done on getting warm and losing weight. When are you planning on your IVF? Looks like we are both doing it before the end of the year.
Rabbit ? How are you doing? Are you feeling okay?
Euro ? How?s it going? I am sad you felt said about the would be 6 month date. You are trying natural this month before another cycle next month right? Will you still go for natural IVF?
Cosmos ? Very interested in your endometrial scratch. Do you know in what circumstances clinics will offer this? I hope this FET is the one for you.
Nelly ? Sorry about the false alarm. Late AF can be a real bitch. I can?t remember how many times she has teased and played with my feelings. Enjoy your upcoming holiday.
Doll, Critter, Sar, Gin ? glowing 10 plussers. I hope you are all feeling good and enjoying your bumps.
AFM, I have been taking antibiotics for almost 2 months now for the latent TB, only 1 more month to go. I finally got the all clear to take Humira. It?s actually sitting in my fridge right now. I had to delay taking it another week because of travel plans buggering up the 2nd injection?s timing. No matter? I have waited this long already. I am quite nervous about injecting? ridiculous I know. I have never actually injected anything before. The clinic didn?t tell me anything and it looks like I am left to figure out how to do it myself. MrSea can?t help as he is really scared of needles. I will have to figure it out somehow. Have been watching a lot of YouTube videos.
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