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TTC 10+ months part 16

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Buzzybee123 · 11/07/2013 20:01

New thread for the lovely 10+ers.

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lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 22/09/2013 09:52

Handhold for the clinic appointments rabbit and mrsd. I always think it is worse in your head than it can be in RL except when they told us I would MC last year, that was worse in RL. You can do it. Go in there, get some answers, make a plan and then off-load to us!

Joy going to blasto is a good thing, blastos have a much higher chance of implanting except when you cook them with fevers, like I did with lembie. They must feel confident they'll make it. Hard to be waiting and hoping, though. Is ET tomorrow?

Pout? I am thinking of you!

How was the birthday party nelly? They can vary so much. We've come home from depressing ones, no longer wanting children, I've come home in tears and some of them I have come home happily hugged by small people. It can be such a mixed bag!

Mad and cos when are you being scanned?

Waves to everyone from a snotty lemon. I cannot concentrate long enough to remember what happened before this page, so I am just thinking of you.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 22/09/2013 09:55

9 going strong is wonderful joy. I thought them of babies as well, but SB talked me out of that and we named all that stood a chance as variations of something little, and we call them by that, which isn't baby-like but is more personal than embie. Maybe that is thought?

mrsden · 22/09/2013 09:59

Joy, cos made a lot of sense there. There must be too many good ones to choose from at the minute! You only need one to get to blasto and if one does then it will be a super strong one. I would love to be able to get to blasto but the laws here prevent it.

My aim for the next cycle is to get something to freeze so then if I get a bfn I can at least feel that I have a second chance.

Rabbit, I'll think positively for you and you could do the same for me. Even mrden is sounding a bit negative now. I mentioned something about maternity leave yesterday and had worked out what my pay would be. Mrden raised his eyebrows in a sort of now, now don't build your hopes up way. He is so rational and clever and never let's his emotions cloud his thoughts so when he was optimistic before I took comfort in that.

Cos, I hope Thursday comes round quickly for you. Waiting is very hard.

sarlat · 22/09/2013 10:03

Lots of hand holding from me today.

joy - your embies actually sound like they are doing fab - honestly. Still have 9 with talk of going to blast. ?.......great start. That special diet has undoubtedly helped. I also felt bit poorly couple of days post ec, maybe take paracetamol if its too uncomfy.

den - oooo honey, waiting is the worst. It is highly likely you will get the green light tomorrow. Bodies dont change too quickly. Hang in there honey.

Rabbit - awww my lovely. Because you have had at least 2 cp's it is impossible for you not to be kicking out some good eggs. You are actually a good candidate for ivf because your body clearly wants to get pregnant but needs a little hand with one or two small barriers. Enjoy your lovely day.

lemons ' bless your snotty heart, hope that lembie is settling in.

pout - thinking of you lots and lots. Whatever the final outcome, it is early days and you will get your baby.

joycep · 22/09/2013 10:30

Mrsd - my dream is to have something to freeze too so there is a back up but we had more at this stage last time and there was only really one good one left so not holding my breath. Obviously the most important thing is to get something to transfer anyway. Why don't the laws allow blasto Den? surely they have to take them to blast to freeze anyway? You can't freeze at day3 can you or am I mistaken? I don't know what is worse , a hubby who has lost hope or one like Roy who is really positive and thinks because I got pregnant last time, then I will definitely get pregnant again. I had to tell him that was not the case and could have been my one and only shot.

Lemon- yes good idea, they aren't babies of course and I shouldn't feel like that. I am sorry you are coldy at the moment. Hope you are doing ok.

Waves to Sar and cos. and nelly hope the party was ok. I will be in the same position next week. I am quite pleased we have been invited actually, I had started to become paranoid that because we don't have kids we are being excluded from things. Nice to be invited so at least we can turn it down if not emotionally up to it!

Cosmos1 · 22/09/2013 10:38

Pout I'm thinking of you too, what's happening, hope you're ok.

Lemons how are you, when is test day?

Cosmos1 · 22/09/2013 10:39

And Joy you've got pg twice now, you just need the right embie/s and some good luck!

I'm slightly in awe of people going to kiddy birthday parties - we haven't been to one.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 22/09/2013 10:42

Joy another thought, I once heard that having not too many eggs might make them individually stronger. So the fact that you had slightly lower numbers, but still 10 embies is LOADS, might well be to your advantage. Hand-hold.

Also, I didn't mean to say you shouldn't feel like that. I did the same. I just find it easier not to, so tried to find a way with some help from SB. Hand-hold!

How annoying you're not allowed to go to blast mrsd. I'd be unhappy about those laws! Although my frosties were frozen at day 4, and that seems to work quite well, you don't need to go blasto before freezing, but I am sure you know that.

Rabbit and mrsd I'll think positively for both of you. It's so much easier if it is not about you, your dreams and wishes. I think most of you will get that take-home-baby. It is just so bloody frustrating the route there is unpredictable and incredibly hard.

I actually had a really good chat about that aspect of it all with a friend, who's not been through this, but instead through a diagnostic endless trajectory with their little boy (now 2) not to find anything wrong in the end. But when the boy was a few months old, he was predicted to die before his first birthday. In the end all was well, but the first years of his life were so tough on his parents. The friend said, dealing with it all becomes so much easier with hind sight, but the uncertainty and the dependence on physician's evaluations were horrible.

AFM I still feel crap, which is a shame for the poor student, who's thesis I am commenting on. I am less nice and supportive in my comments Wink but I can read it, which didn't happen on Friday, so I think things are getting better!

mrsden · 22/09/2013 11:28

The law here on embryos is very strict. Clearly made by non scientists who didn't really understand what it meant in practice. As far as I understand it, you can't choose one embryo over another and must transfer all of them. So clinics get round this by freezing before they get to the stage where they're legally defined as an embryo, I think this is day 2. After day two all of the embryos must be transferred. It was all academic for me last time because we only had two. Freezing and defrosting at that early stage has a success rate of about 30% so we really need minimum of three to freeze plus I'd like one or two to transfer straight away.

ThatWayMadnessLies · 22/09/2013 11:55

Morning everyone. Busy on here for a weekend.

pout have been thinking about you. I hope that all is well.

cos is your scan this Thursday or next?

mrsd I was sure that I would need more surgery when I got into that scanning room too but it was fine. I will be thinking of you tomorrow. Fingers crossed for an October cycle. I'd be curious to know how those laws affect their statistics in your clinic compared with elsewhere.

rabbit you are going to be fine as well. The anticipation is almost always worse than the reality.

lemon glad there has been a minimal improvement at least. Your chat sounds really positive. This crap will one day be behind us and we will be able to get a better perspective on it all. My scan is a week from Monday, thanks. Feels like bloody ages.

joy the clinic are all about improving their stats in the end. They wouldn't let you go to blast if they didn't think that there would be anything to put back then. They would be playing it safe and going for a day 3 transfer. You have lots of embies and there will be good ones. (not intended to sound quite so bossy as it came out!).

nelly hope the party was ok. We have been to quite a few and they can be nice but sometimes I find it really awkward. It's like going to the playpark with friends and their kids. You feel slightly creepy hanging out in the children's area without a child. and everyone assumes you have one so asks which one is yours Blush

I'm off to run errands this morning. Still not many symptoms apart from boobs that seem to have been inflated. A beautiful sunny day in Scotland so planning to get lots of fresh air. Laundry is whipping about in the wind which always makes me feel better - not that I am old or domesticated or anything Wink.

eurochick · 22/09/2013 13:35

joy my lovely, you are paying that clinic a shedload of money. Call them up and let them advise you on the pain. And get them to give you chapter and verse on your embies.

mrsd I can understand why for historical reasons there is reluctance about selecting "good" and "bad" embies, but that doesn't sound terribly helpful!

That's the limit of my catch up time for now. I am still reading, just not finding a lot of time to post at the mo, but I am cheering you all on!

seamermaid · 22/09/2013 13:51

Joy it looks good! You must be worried but this is a completely different round. Trust in Mr T!
As for pain, call them and ask for advice. I find they respond to email faster sometimes. Did you go to Ana? Maybe she can help with pain?

Lemon & Pout. When is test date? Must be soon no? I am feeling positive. Hope Lemon your cold gets better.

Rabbit and Den. Good luck with appointment tomorrow.

Waves to all other 10 plussers from far away land. So intense here on work trip with 70 people so no time to think about ttc great feeling actually.

Love to you all.

CritterPants · 23/09/2013 10:32

joy hang in there! Didn't you have OHSSy symptoms last time? I had one less egg than you removed and I felt awful in the days after EC. Amazing that they're taking them to blasto, that's a great sign.

sea wanted to say you shouldn't feel guilty about the adoption comment at all. I remember people saying that to me (who hadn't adopted themselves) and it upset me too. Adoption is a very big deal and like others have said, a whole different ballgame from TTC/IVF entirely.

pout thinking of you and wishing you lots and lots of luck.

lemon hope you're drinking some lemon tea for that cold and being pampered by SB. Sending positive thoughts to little lembie II. Might be a good thing you have a cold? Lower immune system, etc?

rabbit and mrsd thinking of you both today and wishing you lots and lots of good luck with your appointments.

mad windy laundry is a joy to see! Your (and cos's) scan must be coming up, I bet it feels like waiting forever.

Sorry to all I've missed. Bleary eyed sleepless tail feather blowdries all round.

rabbitonthemoon · 23/09/2013 11:11

I'm scared Blush

joycep · 23/09/2013 11:32

Rabbit - big hand hold. Let us know how you get on.

Mrsd - hope all goes ok for you today too

Critter - are you not sleeping well, you seem to be posting very early your time!

Pout - I hope you are ok.

Mad - inflated boobs are good sign.

Sea - hope you are enjoying yourself wherever you are. Yes I must try and trust mrT but really it is trusting the embies!!

Lemon - hope you are feeling better today.

Thanks ladies, feel so much better today. In fact it was no way as bad as last time. I think the clinic over do the drugs so my poor ovaries kick up a fuss. I got slack on drinking the water. Already feeling nervous about tomorrow.

MuddyWellyNelly · 23/09/2013 11:59

Rabbit big squishy paw squeezes. We are here for you xxx

mrsden · 23/09/2013 12:20

Rabbit, I'm scared too. We have to be brave. Are you getting any test results today? I'm not sure what's going to happen at mine, I'm thinking I should probably tidy up the jungle in case I'm required to drop my trousers.

rabbitonthemoon · 23/09/2013 12:25

Den I know I'm having a scan and h an SA but other than that I'm not sure. I have tidied!

Poutintrout · 23/09/2013 12:31

Quick post from me to let you know that my period arrived yesterday evening. I feel totally gutted. The best way I can describe it is feeling like a deflated dinghy. I can be honest now because there is nothing to jinx but given my odd "symptoms" in the week I went from not expecting it to work to thinking that it had so feel really crest fallen. So, this is the end I suppose. No more treatment, no plan b. I don't know where to start in computing that and getting my head straight. I think I need to take a step back from things TTC, at least for a while. I am clearing the bathroom cabinet of all things TTC and think I may need to take a step back from this lovely thread too for a bit. I will however be thinking of you all loads and wishing you all the very best. lemons I am praying that Lembie II is a sticky bean, joy I am rooting for your transfer, rabbit I wish you all the best for your appointment and send you a huge virtual handhold, the appointment will be fine, promise! All of you ladies are amazing and deserve your lucky break Smile

MuddyWellyNelly · 23/09/2013 12:43

Oh pout lovely my heart is breaking for you. I am devastated on your behalf. This is so unfair, you are such a wonderful person and deserve to be a mum. Do whatever you need to do to feel better; but remember grief is part of the process too. We will miss you so much on the thread if you do leave, but one thing worth saying: we will always be here for you if you ever need us. Oh it's so shit, and I can't bear the fact that finances can play such a big part.

Squeezy huge hugs for you. I wish I could do more :(

Rabbit and MrsDen you are very much in my thoughts today too.

mrsden · 23/09/2013 12:45

Pout, I'm so, so sorry that it hasn't worked this time. You deserve it and I have no idea why this whole ttc business is so awfully unfair. Take all the time you need, if keeping away from here helps then stay away but know that we're all here to help and comfort you if you need it. Xxxx

joycep · 23/09/2013 13:17

Pout - words over the net seem so inadequate right now and wish i could hug you and say I am just so sorry and so gutted for you. It is ridiculously unfair and shit. I understand the need to step away and do what ever you have to do to help you get through this. We are here for you if you need us. X

ThatWayMadnessLies · 23/09/2013 14:30

Oh pout. So so sorry. I agree with the others. Do whatever you need to do to get through it and know that we will always be here if you need us xx

rabbitonthemoon · 23/09/2013 14:31

Oh no hadn't realised there had been postings. Pout I'm so sorry sweetheart. This is so terribly unfair. Huge loves to you x

mrsden · 23/09/2013 15:52

I'm back, no tests or scans for me so no nasty surprises yet. We talked about why it didn't work last time, he thinks we should try a different protocol this time. I don't know the name of this one, does it sound like the standard long one? Basically I'll have a scan on day 21 if all ok then a week before af i will have an injection to shut down lh and fsh I think. Then start stimming after 2 weeks. I'm a bit worried about the down Regging bit, will it turn me into a monster? I'm feeling a bit drained about it all, not raring to go. It all seems a bit pointless.