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TTC 10+ months part 16

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Buzzybee123 · 11/07/2013 20:01

New thread for the lovely 10+ers.

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Cosmos1 · 05/09/2013 15:43

That's a lovely story Joy. I agree I feel strong support and affection for those who've been through Ivf. Hurrah for Ivf as an inconvenient and annoying but perfectly normal way to start a family these days!

eurochick · 05/09/2013 16:13

That is nice, joy. I like hearing those sorts of stories. It makes me feel more normal.

Unlike the email chat I have just had with a friend I haven't heard from in a while. She asked what had been going on with me so I said 3 rounds of IVF and 3 short pregnancies. The response I got back? "Maybe it's time to accept the hand you have been dealt". I almost punched my screen. I am now feeling ragey. Oh well, that's one person off my Xmas card list. Twat.

Cosmos1 · 05/09/2013 16:23

That's horrific Euro. Why would you ever say that to someone, thats one of the least supportive statements to someone having a tough time possible. You didn't get to be a top international lawyer without a lot of hard work, tenacity and determination - that's how things get achieved in life isn't it?

joycep · 05/09/2013 16:38

Euro - definitely time to de-friend that 'friend'. What a toxic and unpleasant and unsupportive woman. Why do people think they can toss out that line when it comes to having a baby? Would she say it to someone having chemo? So angry on your behalf. Screw her.

ThatWayMadnessLies · 05/09/2013 17:04

Aargh euro what a stupid thing to say!! You've been a lot closer than I have on this journey and you have every reason to be optimistic, especially since you've gotten so close on natural cycles. I could accept that sort of "well meaning" remark from my best friend if they had been supportive throughout and knew all my history but to start with that when you haven't spoken for a while is not helpful!!! I am all Angry now.

I agree cos that the support really helps. I am feeling totally normal too, which makes me feel a bit sad, but last tme I think I imagined symptoms. Just like the first few months of ttc when i was so sure we were pregnant. This time I'm a bit more sensible too. I may test on Sunday. Can't wait until I'm at work on my own on Monday.

Had lots to say to lots of people but have forgotten it all so big waves for now and i will be back later.

eurochick · 05/09/2013 17:13

Sorry if I've made the rest of you feel ragey.

I just haven't replied to the message so I wanted to get my feelings off my chest somehow!

Buzzybee123 · 05/09/2013 17:21

euro what a fucking bitch, tell her 'well fortunately I'm not that easily defeated by life'
to be honest she sounds a bit immature and insecure, maybe she feels threatened by your success and happiness that having a baby would be the final straw for her.

cosmos my fingers are crossed for you on Sunday

mad when is your OTD ??

pout how is the stick peeing going :)

ten hello again

joy any news on AF ?? Are you cycling soon??

nelly hope you are still having some 'me time' even though you are mega busy

lemon fingers crossed for your up coming FET

art the photos are lovely :) you and Mr A are allowed top enjoy being parents, I think I have freaked Barry out to much, he has now said he doesn't want to tell people until the baby is born Hmm I feel I have spoilt it a bit for him

sar enjoy your hols

not much to report from me, we are still in limbo about Barry's job for a bit longer, thankfully I still have Kayla to torment while he is away Grin

We had a private scan last week and we are having a girl, Barry is now getting used to the idea of a mini me

waves to others

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joycep · 05/09/2013 17:49

Oh Buzz that is just lovely news. I hope you are blooming. I hope you have begun to feel like it is real now as well.

Art - I forgot to say what a lovely lovely post. I just keep thinking about when we all met last October and you were injecting in the loos and now you have a baby. Amazing!

Heard from the clinic. Bloods are fine and I expect to be shooting up tomorrow or Sat after a hysteo. First hurdle passed. Phew!

Tenmonthsandcounting · 05/09/2013 18:17

Joycep great news, big relief, fingers cossed that this is the round for you

Euro that person sounds like an absolute twat indeed. I thought I had heard it all but that is truly a bonkers thing to say, especially when someone is sharing intomate details woth you. I agree with Joycep you wouldn't tell someone with any other issue it was time to give up. Grr

Mad I would agree that testing at work could be hard (not sure I could do it) it must feel like these last few days are dragging but you are nearly there.

Buzzy Congratulations, that's great news! A little girl how lovely!

Buzzybee123 · 05/09/2013 18:41

joy no I just look fat, I have a patient who keeps looking at me, I can see hes wanting to ask if I'm pregnant but is worried in case I say no, great news to shooting up :)

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sweetgrouch · 05/09/2013 19:12

Buzzy - A girl sounds lovely! Congratulations! I hope the job limbo doesn't last much longer, it's a hard place to be.

Euro - Your friend sounds like a twat. I am Shock that anyone could say something so awful.

Joy - I'm glad the first hurdle is done. Fingers cross that the rest of this cycle goes well for you!

Mad - I think testing at work would be hard. Goodluck on Sunday!

Cosmos - It's wonderful that you are not torturing yourself with google.

Waves and hugs to anyone I've missed.

seamermaid · 05/09/2013 19:33

Buzzy - What lovely news! You are having a girl!

Joy - That's a relief! I'm excited for you. I really hope this is the round for you. I am willing it to be the case. Hope you can take a bit of time off as to avoid stressy balancing work/ivf situation.

Euro - I am Shock at your "friend". I really despair at some people's attitude about ttc and ivf. The only thing I can say is you are better off finding out that's how she is now than later if that's her attitude. I am Angry on your behalf... Grrrrr

Mad & Cosmos - Hope our PUPOs are doing okay. I know it must be nerve wrecking... I am keeping fingers and toes crossed for you both.

Waves and smiles to other 10 plussers I have missed.

Ginestas · 05/09/2013 20:04

cos I have everything crossed for you. You so deserve this. You have an iron will to not test early! Think I tested about a week after the ET. Will it be a blood test on Sunday?

mad ditto you too. Sounds like you are doing really well and not menkuling. I will be logging in on Sunday for news.

euro I think waay back you asked about Mr G's SA - at the last EC, the count was something like 1.8 mil per ml, having previous been about 3mil! Motility was shite and abnormal forms high. With both ivf cycles, we only had a 50% fertilisation rate and embies that arrested by day 3 (and presumable before blast for those that went back in), which the consultant put down to the sperm quality. She said there was no point in us doing the fragmentation test, as with such poor sperm it would be very high. We never had kara testing (although there were some genetic tests on the NHS). FIL suggested the chromosome testing of embies before they were put back, but we never had enough embies left to make it worthwhile.

I am horrified at your friend's words. What a knob.

sea have you had your results back yet? I hope they are all ok.

joy I am so so wishing that the next cycle is a success for you. You had such bad luck last time and I think you are incredibly brave. Btw I'd love to read your book about ttc. I was desperate for lighthearted stuff on ttc and ivf and couldn't find anything other than the Ben Elton book.

ten I did mild ivf at Create and it was successful eventually! If you have any questions, please do ask.

buzz Grin at mini you. I warned Mr G of the same

Waves and luffs to everyone else.

Cosmos1 · 05/09/2013 20:48

Buzzy that's great news.

Yey Joy so pleased that results are good and you're ready to go. I have a great feeling for this round for you.

Gin and Sweet how are you doing?

rabbitonthemoon · 05/09/2013 20:58

Euro, just catching up on the thread and spat out a bit of soup reading your 'friends' appalling comment. I KNOW that even if I'd plopped out child after instadiff child I wouldn't have said that or thought that. Your story sounds like one that is about to get a lucky break, not an end of the road. I hope one day they realise that they were totally off the mark. Presuming they have kids?

Art so lovely to see you hear, now shush about Facebook photos, they are photos of surviving the ttc battle and I love to see them. How is it? Tell us!

Buzzy a girl Smile

Joycep ace about results - go girl!

Sar love seeing you here too, enjoy the hollibobs.

Mad and cos, cheering you on. I've got everything crossed.

Who've I missed? Ten - welcome back. Loves to everyone else!

eurochick · 05/09/2013 21:45

rabbit yes, they have kids. And had an mc along the way (although conceived easily) so should realise that having a family can be a rocky road.

joy that's great news.

I'm thrilled about buzz's news.

gin thanks for the info. I hope all is well with you and mini-gin. I came home to our cycle report and Mr euro's count was the highest it has been since the first ever test, so maybe all my nagging about vits and loose pants has had some effect. I've been reading today about the causes of slow embie development in the early days and many seem to think it is an egg quality issue, so maybe I am to blame after all.

I'm back feeling lost again. Before IVF, with the "unexplained" label, I felt this way and was bouncing from one possible cause to another, always wondering what was our problem. And then when I got a BFP from the first cycle, I thought "OK, something must have been stopping sperm meeting egg, because the first time they do in a lab, I'm preggo". But now I am back to wondering why our embryos don't grow. Not having answers is very difficult for me.

seamermaid · 05/09/2013 22:12

euro I can understand why you feel lost but pls don't lose hope. Everyone I have read or known who have got preg and mc have gone on to get their hard fought baybee.. I really really believe you will get there. I know it doesn't help but it's been close all 3 times. I know others have mentioned it before but maybe it's worth considering immunes (intralipids?) or maybe a scratch? The not knowing is incredibly frustrating and it's what makes one feel helpless I think...

rabbitonthemoon · 05/09/2013 22:13

Euro it is so frustrating not to know what the issue is. I think I kind of know it is an egg issue for me with the fsh but even then, people with my fsh conceive regularly. Not knowing makes you wander from hope that it might happen in the end to woe that its something unsolvable. It must be even more confusing for you now that you know you can fertilise and implant. I think you just need to get lucky. I hope you've put the words of earlier message in a trash can in your brain. I'm still tutting and shaking my head on your behalf.

My cp has made my cycles shorter. I've got ewcm on cd7 again, last cycle was 25 days. Doesn't the menopause start like that?! Confused I'm obsessed. Or can a cp really muck things up?

rabbitonthemoon · 05/09/2013 22:14

And euro I firmly believe you WILL get lucky.

seamermaid · 05/09/2013 22:16

rabbit It's not menopause... you have many many years to go yet!!!
I don't have personal experience of CP but I think something like that is bound to mess with your cycle. Are you IVF-ing in Oct?

Cosmos1 · 05/09/2013 22:31

Euro and Rabbit it's so hard isn't it. I have been thinking about Jordan lately and that she makes an interesting case study. Shes now fallen pg easily by 3 different men, but not fallen pg at all even via Ivf with 2 different men (according to daily fail) despite 1 of those men falling pg easily with someone else. Maybe part of it is just like botanics - some common garden weeds can reseed themselves easily and hardily and some of the more exotic species of plant are harder to cultivate Grin. Difficult to know if its seed or soil, but maybe just getting the conditions just so?

joycep · 05/09/2013 22:35

Big waves to rabbit.

Euro - you have to remember that actually they have only taken 3 eggs out of you and I don't think that can give you an accurate reflection. I was flared up to get 13 eggs and out of that I got 2 embies. Art had 1 embie out of 13 I believe. So you see that percentage of viable embies can be quite low- obviously others have much higher %. Having said that you got pregnant with one egg and it was all bloody bad luck. My theory and I may be wholly wrong but I reckon if you were to be mildly stimulated and they collected more, it would give you much better chance as you would see some of those embies grow quicker than others.
I am so tired , I am not sure if this is even making sense!

joycep · 05/09/2013 22:43

Rabbit - a cp/miscarriage messes things up big time. You must have seen my posts for the last 2 years about my worries about shortening cycles, a few at 21 , 23 etc. after this miscarriage , my cycles have been much longer. This one was a 31 day cycle and last month was 32. So suddenly a complete reversal. Hormone disturbances play havoc with cycle lengths. You are NOT going through the menopause!

joycep · 05/09/2013 22:49

Cos - I love your Jordan analysis! I remember her saying she had had things sewn up down there to make it more pleasurable and I once wondered whether that was the cause of her infertility with that Alex chap. And yes that Alex chap then went and got that Chantelle girl pregnant even though she was suppose to be infertile. Blimey it is weird!

Ginestas · 06/09/2013 04:46

euro I totally agree with joy's v wise words re egg numbers and luck - it took us 24 eggs to get 1 viable embie! You have been so so near and know you can make blasts that implant, which is great news. I too believe you will get there, although understand what a headfuck the unexplained explanation must be.

rabbits you aren't menopausal! I'm sure a CP must do odd things to cycles. Also I used to get EWCM on about day 7, but not ov until day 16ish. I thought of it as my cycle kinda waking up.

joy hope all's well with you and your blood test results were ok.

The dreaded insomnia has struck again. Don't understand how I can't sleep, when I feel so tired all the time! Otherwise all is good with me and the ginster ta not that it stops my crazy lady worries about leaking amniotic fluid, growth, pre eclampsia etc etc