TTC 10+ months part 16

[Buzzybee123]

New thread for the lovely 10+ers.

Seamermaid- thanks for your reply, I am starting to lose hope, my partner believes in the saying if you want it so much and you threat about it, it doesn't happen.. Maybe this could play a small part, I did come close to thinking I was pregnant this month, tried to not get excited! But had a few symptoms for the past few days, been feeling sick, mood swings, very emotional, sore breasts the whole works.. Tested today and was negative.. But maybe it was to early.. AF is not due till Tuesday I just got so impatient! Will have to try a change in diet etc to see if it helps :) xx

wyge1 the 1 year mark is really hard. Can you go back to the GP and ask them to refer you on to the infertility clinic? They probably won't do this until you've been trying for 12 months though and because you're young they probably won't see it as being urgent. The good news is you're still young so you do have lots of time if you do end up needing treatment. Lots of people on this thread did get pregnant around the 12 month mark so hopefully you will too.

sea the reflexology sounds lovely. A relative of mine does it, perhaps I should ask her to have a go. My feet are quite ticklish though.

free are you going to poas again? Do you think it's just a crazy cycle or do you feel hopeful?

euro work is a good distraction, when is testing day?

pout when is your fet round? Will it be soon? I think (fingers crossed) that if my cycles play ball I should start the second week of October. I am getting a little bit excited/nervous about it.

Today is CD14, I have loads of ewcm. It's the first time I've noticed it in ages. I'm also starting with a cold or something, my throat is really sore. So, I'm thinking low immune system plus lovely sperm friendly mucus = excellent pre ivf BFP. Nevermind that there are only 2 sperm and one has 2 heads.

mrsden - EWCM? stop wasting time on mumsnet and get to it I am going to try and hold off POAS again until next Saturday. I am eternally hopeful, no symptoms though. Even after 4 years, 4 months of TTC (today), 1 miscarriage, 4 failed IUIs, 1 IUI that worked but the HCG values didn't double fast enough and it was over before it began and an IVF doctor who seems to see no urgency in getting my paperwork done. So, I don't feel messed in my head or frustrated. Just hopeful and quietly muttering to myself and checking for AF everytime I go to the loo.

rumisyum nice juice inspiration.
wyge1 maybe it's your month?

MrsD sounding good, hope the sore throat isn't getting in the way of other activities. . As my helpful acu lady used to tell me 'when you see the EWCM have sex!' - helpful. It was very odd reading about your friendm( and I have to admit slightly fascinating). I can't help but think that most people who have difficulties would want to know why. She must either be ok about it, or have incredibly strong views to stick by them like that. I assume she wasn't just saying that it wasn't for her, but that she thought it was wrong in general? This is such a tough process I wouldn't put yourself through upsetting scenarios unecessarily. But she must have been a reasonably close friend to confide in you? Crickey I thought I was in a minority but she must been in a very very small minority. Hope she doesn't lose all her friends though maybe she doesn't mind being around preggos and people with babies if she's not that bothered? I think anyone (like many of us on here) who've not wanted the thought of Ivf to start with but gradually had to come to terms with it and face it, it takes a certain kind of determination and courage to challenge your own views and limits and that other people can still have their own opinions if that makes any sense I'm probably waffling now. In a nutshell, don't let it bother you.

Wyge1 it's a hard business and I think I would have found it harder at a younger age (was 29 when we started). I would say keep going back to the doctors at regular intervals (every 6 months or so?) but in the interim do whatever you feel like in terms of dietary changes / reflexology / acupuncture / whatever makes you feel less panicked and more in control. Some find these therapies or just more time works, others find medical help works. You've got time on your side and there's lots of books out there about poly cystic ovaries or try Emma Cannons the baby making bible. The title of this thread is actually a bit misleading as most of us have been trying way longer than that now.

Euro how's tricks, how you feeling?

Lemon if you're reading hope you're ok.

Sea reflexology sounds luverly.

Rum I agree with you about Gin being good for the soul! Festival sounds lovely.

Joy - yes yes yes to the bonfire! What like that scene from friends? Can we do it in some coffee shop where we leave lots of baby equipment all over the place in everybody else's way, and talk at the tops of our voices about breast feeding? Yours will not have been rescued from Russia btw!!

Waves to Pout and Rabbit and anyone else I missed.

Afm I had a scan Friday and lining is right thickness so ET scheduled for weds. If I'm still married by then, these drugs have turned me a bit schizo this time, poor old DH doesn't know if he's coming or going.

mrsd that made me laugh! I am hopeful for your pre-IVF ironidiff!

OTD for me is Friday, but I will test Weds (12dpEC) as I got a positive at that point before and it's our wedding anniversary.

cosmos not long to go now! What drugs are you on that are turning you into a crazy lady?

euro I will be praying for some good news for you come Wednesday and hope that your wedding anniversary is a good omen.

mrsd Am rooting for that one sperm with just the one head
I don't think that we have had an ironic BFP for a while on here. It could be you.

cosmos I did chuckle at you going a bit schizo. ET is so soon for you now.

free glad that you aren't too mental over all this. It would be wonderful if this was your time, after everything you have been through it would be well overdue.

joy I did laugh at your Russian baby comment. I will be bringing Little Dog in a pink stroller. Wondering whether I ought to address the fact that I have been pondering lately whether he still has the sucking reflex and would drink from a baby bottle. Yes folks, that is the level of madness I have reached

wyge I agree with others who have said that the 12 month mark is the hardest. I think that is when little niggles & worries start to surface because you haven't been an instadiff. Hopefully you will have some good news on Tuesday!

Sea your reflexologist sounds amazing. How interesting that your ovaries and uterus felt tender. What did the reflexologist say about that?

CD2 here for me and I'm bracing myself for OPK-mageddon again.

MrsD - Here's to hoping for an ironic bfp.

Wyge - the one year mark is hard. From the sounds of it you have time on your side if you do end up needing treatments.

Sea- The reflexology sounds wonderful.

Pout - I hope the smiley OPKs make you less stressed out this month and the little dog comment made me laugh. DH tried to convince me to buy a pram that attaches to our bicycles for the dog when TTC was getting pretty rough.

Euro - I hope Wednesday is a good day for you. I have my fingers crossed.

Art - Congratulations on your little girl! I hope she turns into one of those babies that sleeps obnoxiously well.

Free - It's good you're dealing so well with the MIA AF. Big paw squeeze to help deal with the uncertainty.

Rum - Glad your cycle and flow seem to be behaving on your new diet. That does sound very encouraging!

Joy - I second the yikes for becoming a mother at 50! That must have been a shock to her system.

Waves to anyone I have missed.

Pout, love the image of Littledog in a pram with a bottle. I thought for a moment you had contemplated feeding him yourself, now that would be worrying.

How does the fet work? Do you ovulate like normal and then it's transferred a few days after? Can they not scan you or take blood to work it out. I'm not sure i can trust opks. I've never used them so no idea if they work for me.

Art, I doubt you're finding time to read this thread but if you are I want to say that baby art is truly beautiful. A little bundle of perfection.

Evening lovelies, am back in the land of the sober the internet again. Had a lovely two weeks recovery from all the shit with SB and now I am out of touch.

Keeping stuff crossed for ironi-diffs, we're due some! And at pout and little dog.

Massive congrats on mini-art's arrival!

MrsD here's hoping for the champion sperm!

Pout, I'm not an OPK user. But decided to do so last-but-1 cycle. I got what I thought was a + then backed it up with a digi. But before I remembered about the digi, I was about to put the pic in here to get your opinion. But by that point I was about 90% certain it was positive. If say use the cheapies more than once a day then revert to expensive ones as soon as you are thinking it might be positive. But I do wonder why scans aren't available??

I have just acquired my first ever bit of baby kit. Not by design, I hasten to add, and I can't decide whether to keep it or not. Luckily it is of the practical and not at all cute variety.

Ok ladies, I worked it out wrong AF is due today, the last two days I've had mild period like cramping, and a really faint pinkish discharge. I keep expecting to look and see AF cause of the cramps but nothing yet.. Usually AF is dark and heavy and causes me serious agony.. Fingers crossed people..

Cosmos: I will have a look into that book, every little helps :) thanks

Pout: thanks for the comment need the support of others who are in the same boat..

Free:hopefully this is my month :) xx

pout your comment about Little Dog made me laugh.

I caved and tested this morning: BFN. I kind of knew. I had loads of really strong symptoms up to Saturday night but nothing for the past 2 days. I think it tried but didn't make it (again).

This one has hit us both pretty hard. We seem to make embryos that get to blast and try to implant but fail to stick. And it was my last chance to be pregnant on my due date from my miscarriage from the first round. Today is not a good day. I just feel incredibly sad.

Aww Euro I am so, so sorry that this hasn't worked out. I know that there is nothing right now that would make you feel any better so just send you a virtual hug for now. I will be thinking of you today.

lemons it is good to have you back! I hope you are feeling better after your break from things.

nelly I am intrigued by the baby kit. We have something too that we have been carting around with us for years. Quite large and in your face. I was considering ebaying it but then fantasy head kicks in and I imagine using it for my fictional baby and it never makes it to ebay.
Your OPK plan is what I think I will plump with. Cheapies to fritter away and the Clearblue big guns for when I start getting a line on the cheapies.

mrsd Oh God at the thought of feeding Little Dog any other way than with a bottle! Obviously I won't be bottle feeding him MrP put his foot down
No scans or blood tests for natural FET which I did find surprising given the insistence on all the monitoring in the cycle preceding it.

euro I am so sorry, its hard when you have dates to remind you of what could have been, big hugs x

Just a quick one for Euro

I'm so so sorry. None of this is easy. I know you and Mr E must be so sad and disappointed. Virtual handhold and hug for you both.

Like Pout. I will be thinking of you both.

Will try to catch up properly soon.

Euro - I'm so sorry. Big handhold and hug for you and Mr. Euro.

Oh Euro, no , I?m just so sorry. It?s just a hell of a thing to go through and it doesn?t seem to get easier. Thinking of you and hoping it is still too early to test.

Cos ? really best of luck tomorrow for transfer. Sorry to hear that the drugs have been taking their toll on your mood. I have heard this happening. Which drug is doing this to you? Poor Mr Cos but i@m sure he understands!

Lemon ? welcome back.

Will catch up later.

The prodigal 10 plusser returns (again). Have just sat here all morning trying to catch up with you all. I have not been in the tent so much as having had my head stuck firmly in the sand with all things TTC related.

euro I am so sorry that this doesn't feel like it has worked. It may be too early but I totally understand why you feel as you do. This whole process is one headf**k after another.

pout I really felt for you reading about the ambiguous opks. With my irregular bleeding I often felt that the anxiety about trying to decide if I was on date one or not artificially slowed things down and stopped AF from arriving. Your new plan sounds very sensible and next month things will be so much clearer (and flipping heck about wasps in paces they should never ever be!!!!)

nelly we passed the three year mark and it was rubbish. I hope you and MrN are doing okay. You still fancy that coffee? We will get it organised one day!

cosmos we will be on the 2ww at about the same time. Fingers crossed for us both.

sea so pleased for you that you're coming to the end of the antibs. This has been such a long haul for you. Don't worry about ivf needles. I think different drugs are more painful to inject (my decapeptyl was huge and sore) but the daily jabs weren't really painful at all - just time consuming to mix up the powders every morning.

rabbit so sorry to hear you've been having a hard time. Do you feel that things are starting to progress and movi in the right direction? My cycles are thoroughly mucked up but they do take control of that during ivf and it's quite nice once you hand it all over.

joy so impressed with you for going back to cycle again. I share your worries about work. My bosses know what's happening and a few close colleagues but I feel like I must be coming across as really unreliable to some because I keep having to rearrange appointments and that is with an nhs clinic that doesn't make very high demands on you in terms of blood tests and scans!

Congratulations to art on the new arrival. So very happy for you .

Afm I have been so scared that all of my follicles this time would be empty that I have been trying to ignore the whole cycle. Family stress has actually helped provide a significant distraction. I am amazed to say though that yesterday we had 8 eggs retrieved and as of this morning we have 8 embies . Hoping for a day 5 transfer but have to ring on thurs (day 3) to find out if I need to go in then. Apparently they will only go to day 5 if there are still 5 good embryos at day 3. After last cycle's single embryo and 2 day transfer I am amazed by how differently this one has gone. Keeping our fingers crossed from now and terrified if getting my hopes up.

So many people I have missed but big waves to sar, critter, doll, gin, mrsd, sweet, lemon newbies and returning 10 plussers. Will definitely have missed someone!

Madness - 8 embies! That is so fantastic. I really am happy that it's going much better this time around for you. Although the family stress sounds horrible. I have been dealing with a bit too much of that myself lately.

Lemon - welcome back to the thread.

Euro ? Still thinking of you?.

Mrsd ? I hope you do get that ironic pre ivf BFP. It?s about time it happens to a 10 plusser. You should try the reflexology. It?s relaxing at least if nothing else.

Free ? I can?t believe you haven?t POAS again. I would be doing it every day if not more. I hope this happens for you. You have been v patient. Is it worth chasing IVF doc? Hopefully you won?t need it but maybe worth getting things lined up.

Cosmos ? Sorry to hear drugs have had such an effect this time. Of course MrC understands. Good luck for tomorrow. Will be thinking of you.

Pout ? Good luck with OPK. I hate those things. I only use them when I have to (during AC generally). Otherwise I try to stick to the whole sex every other day recommendation. I want to buy shares in the company that makes the ones with the smiley face. Surely I should make some gains out of it too!? As for reflexology, therapist didn?t say much about it. He just kept working on it until it was less painful. Dog in pram sounds lovely!

Lemon ? How are you and MrLemons feeling? Missed your post?.
Wyge ? Cosmos is right about the book. She has a new one out which is also good and a bit more up to date on immunes as well. I think it?s called Total Fertility.

Nelly ? I say keep the baby kit. You will need it one day. I am sure of it.

Madness ? well done you on 100% fertilization rate. Go embies go!

Hello to sweet, buzzy, rabbit, joy, sarlat, critter and others I have missed.

That's a great haul mad! That really is very different to your first cycle. Did you change your protocol?

Euro, I am so sorry. You must be feeling very low. Take some time to grieve this cycle, dates are really hard. I'm so sorry you're going through this - it is so unfair.

Thanks ladies. So wonderful to know that you can disappear and return to such a warm welcome. We did the same long protocol euro but on reflection last cycle was my first chance to ovulate post surgery and I downregulated for 4 months instead of just the 2 this time. I still think my messed up lady bits that are all stuck together will try and kick the embies out so the bigger and stronger they can get the better. I am still hopeful for you but I know that doesn't help. I think back to how convinced buzz was that it was all over and I won't give up on any of us before the clinic says so.

Realised I missed buzz and free before - sorry!

Just flying by to say hello :) I've been reading on and off and keeping my fingers crossed. I've a vague idea where you all are and am willing the universe for another autumn bfp bonanza. It must be about time?

Really sorry to hear that it didn't work this time Euro. Lie mad, I'm still hoping that you get better news on OTD.

Good luck for the next rounds of IVF and transfers.

Pout I chuckled about you feeding little dog but only because it will look weird when you are tandem feeding Colin & Little Dog

Mini Princess is now 10 weeks and doing very well. She's incredibly chilled and happy, even through a nasty cold. We get lots of smiles and apart from the last few days she sleeps for 5 - 6 hour stretches at night . I conclude that she was well worth the long wait and I'd go through all the heartache again to get another. You'll all get there :)

Oh and has doll popped yet?

Big love n hugs n stuff xxx

Hiya princess. Blimey, you got one of the special sleeping ones. Lucky you!

doll still has a couple of months to go (we had EC on the same day and my due date was 23 October, so I assume hers is the same or thereabouts).