TTC 10+ months part 16

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New thread for the lovely 10+ers.

Mrsd - most sensible people would do that. I feel very vulnerable at my workplace though and don't want to give them cause for a redundancy. I have been saving holiday and so this time round I do plan to take a week between EC and ET. I was in so much pain after EC for a good 5 days last time, it was a mistake going in. I just hope i can take a week off at short notice. My biggest trouble is when I am required in a meeting and I know I need to go for a scan or a blood test or something.
I hope to god I am not on LP. I was on Flare last time as Super low amh. Certainly not mild but only 13 days before EC so a lot easier than Lp.

Pout - men are hopeless! There is no way Roy will be able to take as many mornings off this time. I have told him he will just be required for 6am sperm donation on EC day and that is it. I will just look after myself the other times. I remember you saying about the loo thing. I was thinking about this the other day as I was concerned last year that I couldn't get through the night without peeing. It had just suddenly developed and went on for months. But touch wood I have never had that problem again since taking the month's worth of antibiotics. Makes me think I had a bug somewhere. May not be relevant to you at all but thought I would mention!

Quiet 'ere, innit?

Yes! Where is everyone? I'm in bed with raging period pains and a grump on. No spotting though - that's about as exciting as trying for a baby gets for me! Pout any signs of ov?

Yep 'tis quiet. Thought I had killed the thread with my inane me me me witterings....

Sorry about the painful cramps rabbit Hope they subside soon. Maybe when you start properly they will go. No signs of ovulation yet. Bloody typical that this is the month it goes AWOL. I am pretty depressed about it TBH. MrP and I were musing that we have had the plague and pestilence in this house and that we hoped Colin wasn't going to be the anti christ...not likely Colin will be anything this cycle

Joycep Interesting about the antibiotics. I'm getting up several times in the night and I am really tired and grumpy!

Oh boo pout to silly bugger cycles, how do our bodies know just how to piss us off? What does the hosp say? How are the flies? A rat died in the pipes at work and it was grim, I hope it something that goes away as quickly as its started. Colin is keeping clear as he doesn't care much for them. But he's very patient hold on there, it must be so infuriating but it will all be just right in there very soon.

And we all love pout witters! A spider stole my ovulation is definitely one for our We Tried For a Long Time book series of 50

You never killed the fred with your stories about spiders pout, they make me smile. I am just really flat. No energy left over for personals, no energy left to write witty things, no energy. I am just so disappointed and disheartened. At the moment I cannot imagine getting going again with FETs, but first another blood test to confirm that Lembie has left the building tomorrow but since I think I have had chemicals before, I expect this to be the case, there can hardly be anything left in my womble

Lemons I can relate to how you're feeling. It is really positive that you can do fet though, a lot of my despair has been because I have nothing in the freezer and have to start again.

Rabbit grrr at period pain.

Pout any news on the corpse?

There seems to be a proliferation of those Am I pregnant threads I find them so depressing, even just seeing he titles. I want to reply to say yes you probably Are because the whole world but me is pregnant grrrrrr.

Still no positive OPK pout? What CD are you now? How irritating that your body is messing you about.

mrsd I find those threads annoying too. One of the BESH once posted on one of them "I don't know, have you tried peeing on your keyboard so the internet can tell you?" or similar and I always think of that now.

rabbit sorry about the period pains and grump!

I think droid is almost done here, which is something. I have my follow up appointment with the clinic to discuss cycle #2 in a couple of hours and my first scan for cycle #3 tomorrow.

lemons I can understand that you must feel so flat right now and am so sorry for you that this cycle worked out this way. I know that right now you won't feel like thinking beyond how shitty this situation. I will be thinking of you tomorrow having your blood test.

euro Good luck with your appointment today.

mrsd I have noticed the volume of those threads too. They don't make me angry just make me think back to the optimism I had back at the start of TTC and what an unexpected turn things have taken. I do often read the threads and wonder how many of the ladies will end up in HMS Barren & don't yet know - that is pretty twisted I suppose. The pissing on the keyboard comment made me laugh!

rabbit I also sniggered loudly at the 50 book series of We Tried For a Long Time. I can see the film franchise now and associated merchandise - official OPK stick anyone, Alton Towers Dildo cam ride? The flies seem to have subsided. MrP sealed all the gaps in the bath panel and emptied a can of fly spray in there before doing so. He reckons that once the food source corpse has been eaten and the maggots hatched it will resolve itself. I read though that maggots hatch in 3 waves so I don't think we are out of the woods. Having a bath is interesting right now

Still no signs of ovulation. I think I wished this on myself when I mused up thread about this happening I think that I will give it till Friday which will be CD 18 and if there is still nothing happening in the pants department and no hint of a line on the OPKs then I will call the hospital and let them know that it is a bust.

Pout - damn at the lack of ovulation. Can you ask for scan and a blood test? A) to check your lining and b) to check progesterone levels to see if they are post ov. Or aren't they accommodating? It is so depressing that this is happening this month. It is no wonder that it is so difficult to feel positive about things. Ps- I think evidence above suggests I killed the thread. I have had writing diarrhea ever since my break!

Lemon - huge hug. There is such a come down after everything and it is thoroughly draining. Hope tomorrow is alright.

Mrsd / agree about the lack of frosties. This plays over and over in my head and has fuelled my despair.

Rabbit - sorry about period pains, poor you.

Joy TBH I can't be bothered with more fannying about at the hospital. I would rather wait and just start afresh next cycle. I also wouldn't feel comfortable pressing on this cycle if there was some question mark over when/if ovulation occurred.
at writing diarrhea. I don't think that of you at all and like it when the thread is busy and chatty. I just worry sometimes that I witter on about inconsequential & boring stuff too much and worry that people might think I am too needy.

I'm sorry that you feel like that about frosties. I can understand though. I felt gutted that I only had one and am worried to death about it combusting during the defrost. I wonder whether the subconscious worry of that has vapourised my ovulation. Also the fact that my FET has been my insurance and fallback and now it is upon me and I guess I am little a lot afraid that my Plan B might fail too.

Pout - needy?? You certainly don't come across as such! I love it when people write about non TTC stuff. You are right, I don't blame you for wanting to go for another cycle if this one is a bust. It is so bloody typical that this is messing you around. Do you use the smiley digital OPKs?
I am not surprised you are worried to death about defrost. There is so much hope pinned but it is going to be fine. It will defrost perfectly. It will it will!

Pout ? I don?t find you needy. Also ? the lack of ovulation is incredibly frustrating! I understand why you would want to move onto the next cycle so that this one doesn?t have a cloud of doubt hanging over it.

Joy and Pout ? I like the thread better when it is chatty and a mixture of TTC and non-TTC related issues. I feel like it makes us all a bit less one-dimensional.

Joy ? sorry about AF rearing her ugly head.

Rabbit ? The period pains sound pretty grim. I hope they subside soon.

Euro ? good luck for the appointment.

MrsD ? I agree about those threads being aggravating. All the early pregnancy symptoms everyone seems to have are identical to what my normal PMT is (nausea, spots, bloating, tiredness, moodiness, etc). I always want to write just POAS.

Lemons ? Big hug. I would just give it a bit of time. The possibility of FET is still really positive.

Cosmos ? sorry about the lip wobble

Art - Sorry to hear about your little kitty. Good for you relaxing while waiting for the big day (this is what is specifically recommended in the pregnancy guidebook handed out by our government). Soon there will be a little art in his/her bassinet. I understand how there is not much of a link happening between the belly and a living child.

Sorry about the huge post again. I have been reading to keep up but have not had the time to post. There isn?t much new with me except that I will be attending a childrens birthday party this weekend, most of the kids will be the age my first was supposed to be. I?m not mental about it like I was last year, but it still stings. I hope this is a good step forward for me.

Hi ladies. A quick post from the beach at the med.
lemons. I'm just so sorry this was not the cycle for you. I'm gutted for you. I hope in time you will heal and feel good about the fet cycle. Big hugs

Pout. Sorry to read about scary insects. The missing ovulation is the last thing you need. Hopefully it's a one off and everything will be back to normal real soon.
You could never kill thread. I love your posts.

Euro. Hope your appointment went well today. The short cycle is just the last thing you need.

Rabbit. Hope the period pains have buggared off and you are in better spirits.

Joy. Typical of the witch to sneak up on you. I suppose it is good least that you can get on with your cycle. You could not kill the thread ever. It's a delight to have you back.

Mrsd I'm just gutted you are feeling so down. This journey really sucks. I hope things improve. Don't give up. I'm sure we will all hold our baby one day and the difficult road we had to endure to get there will only make us better parents.

Love to everyone I have missed.

Sun and salty water has helped lift the dark cloud I was under. I have decided I can face barrenness with a smile or with tears and I may as well fake smile until I feel it.
Another a plus announcement via FB. A friend who got preggars after 1 month of trying 2 years into my ttc. Having her second already. Lots of photos of her holding belly on FB. If I wasn't laughing like crazy I would be crying.
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Sea I'm so pleased to hear that holidays have lifted your spirits! FFS re your friend and her announcement. Some people just don't know how lucky they are... You and Mr S have had such a hard time recently and definitely deserve a really lovely, relaxing holiday. You can come back all refreshed, do IVF and win your baby :)

pout sorry to hear about the missing in action ovulation. How bloody typical. Are you peeing on ov sticks twice a day? Like you, after my first IVF I went from a day 17 ovulation to day 14 and then back to day 17 after the 2nd IVF. Maybe it will arrive tomorrow? I also had tracking scans with my cycle, although the stupid dr still panicked about me not ovulating. If I hadn?t, it?d have been a medicated FET the next cycle. Might be something to consider? And urgh re flesh chomping spiders and the fly invasion. In my parents? house we often had the dead bird in the chimney, bluebottles thing. They went eventually, although the room looked like fly armegedon.

grouch pleased to hear all is well with you! Hope the party goes ok. It?s amazing how stingy these things still are- I know I still find instadiffs really hard. Do you have a bump now?

euro hope the appointment went ok and they didn?t keep you waiting too long. So are you starting cycle #3 now?

mrsd those freds massively pish me off. Why bother posting that?! And they always turn out to be bloody pregnant. I like the Besh response Euro mentioned. Hope you are ok. Your next ivf isn?t too far away now, don?t give up.

lemons big hugs lovely. You will get through this and will start to feel better and excited about the frosties, I promise. It will just take some time to grieve for lembie. I was ridiculously sad when IVF #2 didn?t work, but found in the weeks after the bfn, knowing I had a frostie helped. Although with it being only the one, I had pout?s fear re defrosting. BTW pout these days they have a v. high chance of surviving defrost, although I know this won't stop you worrying.

joy you haven?t killed the fred at all! It?s so lovely to have you chatting on here again.

art you are soooo near now (if not actually in labour!). Hope you are feeling ok and enjoying the start of maternity leave.

rabbit boo for the AF pains. I was so hoping you?d come on here and announce a stripy stick. I hope you feel better soon. Rats at work?

I think Nellie is on holidays v. near where I was last month, an area I think euro knows too. How funny would it be if we all met up there?

Well I hope this doesn?t make anyone feel shitter, but I had my 21 scan today and it?s a little girl!! I sobbed like a mad woman when they told us, as it made it all feel so real. All was well with the baby, but the menkulling doesn?t stop as they noticed a couple of things (fibroid near cervix and high blood flow resistance) that could cause problems in later pregnancy. We have another scan in late Sept to see how things are going, sigh.

Lots of luffs to everyone, particularly the tent dwellers.

Gin - A little girl. How exciting! 21 weeks... you must be due around Dec 18th. At least you reacted! At my 12/13 week scan I just sat there and stared because I couldn't process that the baby on the screen was in me. The technician must have thought I was cold or mental. I am starting to have an obvious bump. Do you have a bump?

Sea - Your holiday sounds lovely. I'm glad you and MrS are out relaxing after your recent troubles. I have to admit that insta-duffers still irritate me/make me jealous .

Now back to work!

Ooo, gin, I have a question for you. Do I remember correctly that you had valium for ET? What was it like? They have suggested I try it for EC. I'm a bit nervous as part of my issue with sedation is being out of control so if the valium would make me feel not like myself then it isn't going to help.

A little girl - that's amazing. I hope the worries never materialise.

sea I'm glad you feel happier and can even withstand an A+ announcement.

sweet it must be wonderful to be developing a bump!

pout my love, you are never needy. joy is absolutely right about your posts.

Well I had my appointment and also the first scan that was booked for tomorrow (which is good, as it saves me a trip). Basically the clinic's focus now seems to be on getting an embie to stick. They talked about an endometrial scratch (too late to do that this cycle now) and we discussed intralipids but didn't draw any conclusions. We need to decide by tomorrow whether we will stay natural or add in some low dose drugs again. Mr euro favours natural, pointing out that each time we have deviated from our plan, we have regretted it. I am not so sure and like the odds of having more than one egg, but he has a point.

Wow, congratulations Gin a little girl, and all going well. I am so happy to see it. And no, wins on here do not hurt or bother me. They give hope particularly a frostie win, it was your frostie, wasn't it?

Yay for the bump too sweet. Other people's pregnancies go so fast!

The clinic visit sounds good euro. I'd stick with the plan, I think, because the closest you've come was with a complete natural round. For what it's worth, I'd want to really think about changing it beforehand. Keeping everything crossed for third time properly lucky.

Sorry about the AWOL ovulation, pout. My new theory is that mrp killed it with fly-killer and locked it in behind the bath You do not strike me as needy. I love your posts, your witty comments etc

Sorry about the sadness and misery on here. Especially sorry to joy and den for my moping considering I have a freezer drawer full of frosties chances. The mourning this failure/loss just takes time, and multiple losses do concern me now. I'll keep a hawk eye on euro's progress since she is my hormonal twin and always a step or two ahead!

Well done on the happiness found in the sun and sea view. The laughing instead of crying sounds like a wise move. I hope I can find that place again!

Hope the period pain settles and you feel better soon rabbit.

Here, things are a bit all over the place. SB has been great in supporting me, but I googled myself shit-scared about multiple miscarriages. Time to talk to the clinic whilst being poked tomorrow I had to chat to a specialist in dertility for work today and did not quiz her on my situation, proud of myself

I think you are right drizz. Last time it was suggested at the first scan that I add in some drugs, and I went with it, but I felt easier on the natural cycle. Also, if I go natural there is more chance that they will let me be awake for EC as it will be quick with just one egg to grab.

I have my second hypno session tomorrow. Which should have been before this cycle started, but AF coming a week early has thrown everything out!

Thanks ladies. You are all ver lovely and gracious.

lemon the ginster was indeed a frostie. So it can and does work!

euro I did have a 10mg Valium for ET. It was bloody brilliant! Although I have taken a lower dose before to get me on a plane, so kinda knew what to expect. I just felt really chilled. When we were driving to the clinic mental London drivers nearly hitting us barely registered! I think I was also a bit chattier and gigglier. A bit like being drunk, but def not the brain fog you get with sedation.

It's funny that both you and I hate EC and makes me wonder if it's something to do with our clinic. Having said that, I've never liked the idea of being knocked out and did have that terrible experience first EC. I couldn't do EC awake - just the sight of the knitting needle makes me feel sick!

When you had your follow up, did they say if they thought the drugs or EC timing had compromised the quality of the eggs? Totally natural did work v well for you, but I also understand wanting to get a few more chances at the golden embie. Maybe do natural this cycle and then look at mild next? Mind you it sounds like the embryos are getting to blast anyway to produce some hcg. Good luck with whatever you decide and your scan today!

pout any sign of that pesky ovulation? The fet stress could well have delayed it.

grouch I do have a bump. In fact someone gave me a seat on the bus last night and I wasn't even wearing my baby on board badge, so I must look pregnant now rather than just fat!

awwwww, a baby girl gin how lovely. Although baby boys are lovely too! Don't worry about the other things, I'm sure they going to keep an eye on everything and look after you well. Fibroids are common in pregnancy, the extra hormones help them grow I think. The Dr said the cyst I had would have grown much bigger if I was pregnant so that's why they wanted to remove it beforehand.

euro natural seems to work for you so I think if I were you I'd stick with that for one more round. I don't see the point of taking the drugs if you don't have to. I'm sure they are still wreaking havoc with my cycles, although today I think my boobs are a tiny bit sore so maybe I have ovulated.

pout it's normal to have awol ovulation now and again. I wish our bodies could be relied upon. Yesterday I was trying to work out when our ivf cycle would start but it's impossible to know when cycles will start and finish because I'm not 100% regular.

art I'm thinking of you. Are you getting sick of people asking if things have started yet? Please let us know when there is news, and I'd love to see a snuggly baby photo. A 10 plusser baby is always a wonderful boost.

Thanks for the run down, gin. I am not sure about being "drunk". Hmmm.

They don't think that delaying EC compromised egg quality. I am still not 100% convinced. I think we will go with natural. With only one follie to focus on, there are fewer timing ishoos. If we do a 4th, we will probably do a full mild cycle, rather than natural modified.

You're right about getting to blast. 2 or 3 out of our 3 embies (over 2 cycles) must have got that far, which is actually a pretty good rate. Now we just need one to go the distance.

How lovely to look properly pregnant. :)

art I agree with mrsd - I'd love to see a pic of a snuggly 10+er baby.

We've got one in receptionist from Ghostbusters stylee shriek Pissed on a stick last night and there is a line, not a positive but something. I know it isn't conclusive that anything is definitely happening on the ov front but it is better than seeing stark white. FX that the line will develop. Incidently, if I swap OPK brand now that will be okay won't it? After all this prolonged testing I have almost run out & also I want to switch to twice daily testing to be sure I don't miss the blighter.

gin A little girl is such lovely news, makes me feel all moist in the eyes And BTW your baby news (or any Ten Plussers baby news) could never be unwelcome. I am thrilled for you. Talking of which, art any news?
gin I am stupidly excited that you have a bump big enough to be offered a seat. Work that bump!

sweet I smiled at how you described your scan. That is so sweet (even though the sonographer might've thought you were mental!)

euro Another one here of the opinion that going with your original plan and not changing at the last minute sounds best. I am never happy when I deviate from a plan and hate that kicking myself afterwards feeling.
I am sorry that you feel so nervous about the EC. I was totally knocked out and didn't have these worries thankfully. Valium or something similar might be a good idea. You might not get the drunk feeling, I think we all react differently to these types of drugs. Maybe you could try one before hand, on a weekend a few hours before bed perhaps to see how you react? That is probably a shocking suggestion and best ignored!

lemons I am so glad that you feel a little brighter. This is a tough time for you. How did you get on at the clinic today?
at MrP zapping ov.

sea I am glad that your holiday is helping you feel a bit better about things. That announcement is a toughie. I would be frothing at the mouth having to see FB photos of someone clutching their tummy like you describe. Please tell me there is something resembling a bump to cradle!

mrsd Big yes at the impossibility of nailing down timings when your cycle isn't reliable. I've got the same issues at the moment. If ovulation doesn't disappear again I was trying to work out when test day would be this cysle because MrP has been told that he has to go away for work and it looks likely it might be at this time. He says he will tell them no but I don't want him to do that unless we are absolutely sure that the dates clash & even then I'm not sure. Is it wet of me not wanting to be alone on test/AF date?

Ladies I also wanted to quickly say (so as to to harp on anymore so as you change your minds!) how kind your words were about the neediness thing. Thank you. You are all such a lovely bunch