Eggcellent Egg Buddies - a thread for those IVFing in June/July/August

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You don't have to be crazy to be on this thread but it helps

(Ladies, I thought I would jump in and start a non-sweary titled fred. Feel free to turn the air blue now!)

Umm well dhs were great last year when he was good.

Oh it is what it is! I'm looking at far flung holidays in July!

Oh, just seen the recap request downthread. Me 42, DH 37, TTC (no. 2) since Sept 11 with MMC in March 12 and failed 1st IVF cycle in May 13. Trying to figure out where next...

BUT major breakthrough as of yesterday when out of the blue DH emailed (he at work, me at home) a link to Care's DE page and a link to an article about DE IVF from Guardian (2012 but still a good read). Methinks he is trying to tell me something!!!

So long as no one likely to say "maybe if you just relax and go on holiday, it'll happen", booking a holiday anytime is A Good Thing.

Do you think he is on board then?

I hope so x

We're over half way there, I think. Emailed the clinic about it on Wednesday anyway but no reply yet (). Bigger issue now is absent cycle. Used to ovulate day 17-20, currently on day 27 and no sign yet of egg or AF. Bloody IVF has screwed me up yet again.

How're you doing today? Your "desperately sad" post made me feel sad for you. I repeat that m/cs are the pits.

Bloody hell you bitches can talk!

Tame massive virtual hugs for you. I am so sad for you and husband. Xxx

Juicy hope reprobitch calls you back!

Mejust Life how's it going?

Hello Flower and Rachel

Saw that people are doing back stories....

Me: 34 Him: 40
Low amh. Trying for 5 years I think. 2 previous cycles no pregnancy.
Currently on 3rd ivf cycle. Had scan on Thursday and downreg all good. Start menopur + Prednisolone on Monday.

Am going to try and keep up now!

res anyone who says relax and go on holiday should have hot pokers through their eyes

karbea sperm can change, I agree with the others, Barrys has become worse since he got all healthy and fit our last cycle was his worst .5 morphology

tortie how are you holding up my lovely

Hello, darlings can I just thank you all - especially Fish and Buzzy, who went out of their way to get me info about the clinic. Lovely.

My coordinator finally rang me at 2.45pm - very flustered, very apologetic - saying that she had stayed overnight outside of the city and had no wi-fi etc and she was horrified I was upset, blah, blah..

Anyway, Day Two: 5 embryos left, 1 x 5 cell, 2 x 4 cell, 1 x 3 cell & 1 x 2 cell. She said the embryologist (probably her mum ) is very happy with this and says it is exactly what he would hope for at day two. I'm particularly happy because, when I compare today's news with that of my FF friend who had donor egg and donor sperm, by day two she had the same cell numbers as me exactly (except she had an extra two embryos). Anyway, I guess we are relying on the three frontrunners - the 5 cell and the two four cells.

I am back at the hotel after being thoroughly spoiled by th'usband who, I have to say, is an utter sweetheart. He has bought me a novel to shut me up (the Amazon one I ordered to be delivered to the hotel hasn't turned up yet), some gorgeous shoes and some L'Otticane foot oil. I asked him before if I was a) highly-strung b) mental c) have an impossibly low boredom threshold d) an imperious brat. He said: "You are all those things but they are what made me fall in love with you". I would disagree; I think it was the fact that I can deep-throat

I'm not sure where I would be without you all. Thank you for putting up with me X

Can I just say that those having IVF and planning luxury holidays are making me wonder whether I actually live on the same planet

Im ok you guys. Emotionally, just feel empty.

Physically, I am very crampy but still no bleeding it stopped on wednesday night and all im getting is the odd smear of old blood. I've stopped cyclogest so nothing holding it off. Am wondering what to expect? What am I waiting for? I also feel a bit fluey- bit dizzy, bit sick.

I had a mc before but not after ivf.

I have a scan on Tuesday to 'confirm' cos you have to have 2 scans a week apart and I have had 2 four days apart. I really want a d&c because of bad experience with last mc but I dont think I will get one being so early and I think I am just going to be left again. And im scared =(

Rachel, you asked about the embryo monitoring: the 'opening the oven door' scenario is one which is avoided with the embryoscope, which uses video time-lapse every 20 minutes to monitor the behaviour and viability of embryos so that it is highly unlikely that the embryos they decide to transfer are chromasomally abnormal, hence avoiding miscarriage as much as possible. Without the embryoscope you rely on the embryologist removing the embryos each day and examining them at one point in time through a microscope; he cannot see a continual stream of behaviour from the embryo and hence relies solely on his judgement as to which to transfer.

juicy im so happy you have an update. A good one too.

And I've got to say, the saga with you, fish and the phone number is possibly the funniest thing I have 'witnessed' all year (its been a quiet year on the comedy front...) and I was literally crying with laughter. Im sorry, I know its not funny for you but goodness me..... I do love you guys

I have everything crossed for your embies xxxxx

Tortie, I am so sorry you feel scared. Please have faith that this will turn out to be okay in terms of a swift outcome. I am thinking of you - we all are xx

Thank you juicy. And sorry if I sound heartless having a chuckle at the phone call saga.

DH didn't get what I was laughing at. He thinks we are all nuts.

Juicy - fantastic news!! Thank god you got an update, and a great one at that.

Tortie:

Reprofit: 'ello?

Me: Yes! My name is JUICY, that's J-U-I-C-Y, and I am ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS that you have not emailed me about my embryos! Where is Helena? Hmm? Where is she??!! Where is Dr Vrana? Can you hear me? What? What are you saying..?

Reprofit: Erm..'oo iz 'Elena?

Me (THUNDEROUS): YOU WHAT??? What do you mean "who is Helena?"! She's my bloody coordinator who was supposed to KEEP ME INFORMED about my bloody embryos! She is nowhere to be found AND YOUR CLINIC IS LOCKED UP WITH NO CARS THERE OR PEOPLE!!!

Reprofit: But, madame, I am 'ere...

Me (APOPLECTIC): SO GO AND GET HELENA THEN!

Reprofit: But, zer iz no 'Elena 'ere at Reprofit!

Me: Oh. This is Reprofit?

Reprofit: But yes!

Me: Er...soz [click]

oh juicy I really do think this is possibly the funniest thing ever. And I sort of LOVE fish for giving you the wrong number

"But Madame, I am 'ere..."

Juicy glad they got in touch, don't think the embryoscope has made it to sunny Leeds yet, they don't offer it at mine anyhoos.

juicy I doubt you are first crazy forriner who has called up Reprofit, they shouldn't have such similar names your little embies sound good

tortie one of my miscarriages the baby stopped at about 6 weeks and after nearly a month of waiting and seeing, they gave me the option of a ERPC or medical management or au naturale so they should give you the option too

Im so glad you've been tickled pink by the scenario tame! I am still cringing, but the whole thing including the transcript above reads like a carry on call centre. .

I couldn't remember the name of the clinic so googled ferility clinic, Brno saw reprofit and recognised the name .

juicy embryos sound great and can I apologise again for giving you grief! Though it was worth it to 'see' tame smile.

Hey nooks how are you doing? I'm feeling angry and pissed off (and embarrassed re giving wrong numbers). I can 'feel' my stomach/ ovaries after only 3 days of stimming and I'm just so, so pissed off. And I don't know why.

juicy you can deep throat? Handy...

tame don't be scared re what happens next. Can you request the process that you want either via the clinic or your GP? You need to know what your options are and this is distressing enough without a drawn out process. Gaining some control (ie demanding what you want/ speaking with medicals) may make you feel a little better.

Fish, please don't apologise, I adore crazy mix-ups like this (obviously in hindsight when whatever the crisis was gets resolved). I cannot fully convey how arsey and loud I was

Rachel, CARE Manchester have the embryoscope (they pioneered it in the UK) which costs £750. It's £420 over here

Tame lovely, when you have your next scan they should give you the opportunity to have an erpc - they'll give the choice of that, a natural miscarriage or a medical induced miscarriage. I was scared too when I had my missed miscarriage and just wanted it over and done with having already waited for 2 weeks - the epu was excellent - booked me in the next day and it was all done - bad cramping was over after a couple of days thankfully. That just seemed like a far more civilised way of dealing with it all and far less traumatic for me. Good luck - virtual hugs for you

Aww, Fish, come on...let this negativity wash over you, let it happen in the knowledge that it's the drugs. Come on, sweetheart, you can do this