Eggcellent Egg Buddies: are you IVF cycling in June/July/August 2013? Then get your druggy arses over here for some pure fucking menkulling...

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NokklingtonStStation, I couldn't find a new thread so I made this one, cock. Hope I did the right thing

life my hubby has been working alot which he has had no choice but trys to be supportive but everyone else seems to think they can dump all their problems on me and stress at the moment and i really cant deal with it right now ,i could prob do with their support but they dont see it so iv decided to just get on with it and distance myself from it iv started a good book yesterday and thinking about a day trip at weekend a change is as good as a rest,the DR prob didnt help them drugs make you feel down.

Actually, no - i'm going to do a bit of shopping around thurrock.

But it is generally as exciting as that!

Fish, you've hit the nail on the head re children not 'defining' us as a couple. We won't curl up and die without a baby - I've been here almost 42 years and had some amazingly happy times without kids so I'm not going to wither away now! I don't believe anyone's happiness lies in whether or not they can be a parent, it's how we deal with potential childlessness which will define us all.

Fish, I'm afraid you will stand out like a sore thumb if you have a clean vadge in Costco

Hello All,

Juicy Am glad you are feeling a little happier. Will you find out how many eggs today?? Thanks for your lovely caring messages- so sweet xxx I also prayed last night that the cat was ok. Mine is curled up with me at the moment. I cant imagine ever hurting an animal

Respisa I'm so sorry that you are having problems with DH. It would break my heart to be blocked out so much. You need to get on a level pegging again before more treatment chick. Does your clinic offer any counselling? Very often they will offer a number of free sessions. I am sending you some un-mn virtual hugs though because I know if I couldnt trust in my DH to be on my side with the whole treatment thing and an equal part of our team then the relationship would become very difficult to maintain.

twinks sorry you are having a sad day- we all get them in the middle of treatment though. Go with it and pamper yourself for a day. chocolate cake and a starbucks always did the trick for me

fish I love a back stroke

Euro Am very excited about your cycle natural fascinates me. Are you at create??

wish are you speaking to the clinic today?? good luck xxx

expat any news? How are you feeling?? I have everything crossed. Do not test early- I never ever will again.

me just are you stimming now? sorry the jabs are sore

motorcycle where are you with your cycle chick? I know you are DE (in the uk?) but cant place where you are in the cycle. Hope all is going well xxx

karbea good luck for tomorrow!! How many eggs have they predicted? Egg numbers/embryo numbers/ embryo development is my fave bit!! (for other people, horrible for me!!)

nooknook thank you for good wishes, where are you in your cycle? Stim/dr??? I can see that I need to update the list cos I am lost......

I am ok here. Have had a few tears because the blood is so stressful but I am ok. It varies between red/pink/brown/light/splodgy/stringy. I passed a tiny clot last night (sorry!) which was upsetting. After a MC, bleeding when pg takes on a whole new meaning. Hopefully just one more day in limbo land. The really sad thing is, I still feel pregnant (cos I am...) but the blood is telling me otherwise mentally. I know blood doesnt always have to be bad. But to me it is. I didn't bleed with DD, I bled with my MC. siiiimples.

Tomorrows scan should give us more info. If I walk out even more confused or in limbo, you are all gonna have to talk me down. I'm so bored of this now, its untrue.

Here is my mental list of advantages and disadvantages (bear with me)

Good=

Rising HCG
Rising CB digi
Scan showed sac and yolk sac (possible heartbeat but not sure)

Bad=

Blood
cramps
low HCG

So the lists are equal. After tomorrow, hopefully, one will be longer than the other and then we will know.

Am I nuts????????

tortie I too associate bleeding with something bad so can understand, I think its normal when you have miscarried, what time is your scan tomorrow

12.30 Buzzy.

I'm not even nervous. Im resigned. Is that bad??

Poor DH is so positive and happy. He wants this so much and really believes this may be it. Poor bloke I keep reminding him that he isnt the one wiping blood away all the time I'm so harsh to him. I cried on his shoulder last night and he just held me really tight. I KNOW that he will do whatever he can to solve this- we will go whatever route we need to. We have been to adoption meetings, discussed donors, tests, treatment abroad. We will get there together. But I feel so guilty for dampening his spirit all the time. I'm sure he will get fed up of me keep saying 'it aint worked!' 'I'm miscarrying!' ....

At least we will have something to compare against from Tuesday. There may not be a lot of difference but mentally, I can check things off. If things are looking much clearer on the scan tomorrow then its moving in the right direction and there is progress.

If not then I can mentally put this to rest a bit. Clinic will probably want to scan again to make sure and then I will be desperately booking an ERPC because the wait to miscarry is the most awful torture ever.

In my mind, its very clear either way.

In practise, it may be different.

I would also be good to see a reason for the bleeding??

The best outcome would be progress from Tuesday plus a reason for the blood.

Worst outcome is no progress, MC.

Sorry I keep waffling- jotting it down on here is making it clearer in my head!!!

Good luck today Juicy.

Thx for your kind words tame, ESP when you are going through what you're going through. Hoping and wishing and praying for you that tomorrow's scan is ok.

tortie I am still spotting and when I asked they said they couldn't see anything on the scan or in my cervix there may not be a conclusive answer to the bleeding, i'm hoping the cramps are just my bowels

I think they will ant to scan you next week again, I'm hoping you'll see the heartbeat again tomorrow

I have another one next Tuesday if I need it.

Are you spotting much? Is it red?

Tame fingers crossed for you. And your DH sounds lovely. Wanna swap?

tortieno its pink like before and a bit mucusy, its the headache and cramps that worry me

Here is weird vanishing symptom for you....

my lower lower tummy felt hard and tight last week, achey and sore round my groin and felt swollen when i lay on my front.

Now, it just feels normal.

That worries me.

tame I'm sat in the car I my lunch and whilst reading your post I totally zoned out cause I was so drawn in by them. I came to and the guy in the car next to me was giving me funny looks, I must of looked like a right loon just staring into my lap! Stay strong my loverly (sorry, from somerrrset). You will have you answers soon and I have everything crossed thr they're positive.

The clinic rang me to return my message but I could t answer. She asked me to ring her and now she's not pissin available! Grrrr

Wish- keep phoning till you get an answer, before you explode like an egg in a microwave

I'm glad my posts are hypnotising and drawing you in to my strange existence and my insane ramblings make you slip into a coma when you start dribbling, let me know and I'll take it up a notch xxx

respisa my DH is lovely very very sweet x

I cant swap- he knows all my secrets

I wanna do a live POAS thread

To be that relaxed about taking a test must be awesome

tortie the thing is everyone reacts differently to being pregnant, this is different to my last one, mainly because of the drugs I suppose, maybe too much cheese is causing me the headache

wish I agree keep ringing

expat dont write things off yet. I did and look at me no, actually, look away....look at someone else.....

Agates file is amazing no??? I really love it.

I have such a massive action plan for when/if this is over...nothing like an action plan to make you feel better even when you are in the midst of things.

Here is what I will/may be doing next time;

Hidden C testing- so mega interested in this.

DNA fragmentation test- I have mentioned how desperate I am to get this done before. Totally think this is our issue.

Supplements- have you heard of melatonin for egg quality and fertilsation rates? And it helps you sleep- yay!!

Protocol- Short protocol with gonal F. I think all the LH in menopur is fizzling my eggies.

I'm gonna do the scratch the same as this time and the prednisolone.

I'm doing a lot of whittering today....this thread is turning into my fucking FF ICSI diary....sorry dudes

expat you are entitled to a clear report of your treatment, that is part of their job, the 2ww is hell

Oh and expat well done on getting to blastocyst. Even a grade 3cc would have me popping champagne corks and shooting ping pong balls out my fanny!! not bad odds at all. And makes it even more hopeful for the one up your shoot cos we ALL know- they are better off inside than in a dish. The embryologist may deny it but deny away my love.....a FOOL can see that a lovely warm womb is the best place for the little bundle of cells

Tametortie yesterday they saw 11 follicles but the day before was 8, apparently 3 had grown overnight! So I guess I'm hoping somewhere between 8-11.
Regarding DNA frag, why don't you just put DH on the vits? If he came back with a bad result that is all they would do any way.

Karbea- good numbers!!!

DH has had all the vits- 1g vit c,vit e and selenium and l'arginine and we still struggle to make good embies.

Apparently if DNA fragmentation comes back at over 30% a lot of clinics will start considering donor treatment. 2 cycles no blasts ain't looking good odds is it??