Eggcellent Egg Buddies: are you IVF cycling in June/July/August 2013? Then get your druggy arses over here for some pure fucking menkulling...

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NokklingtonStStation, I couldn't find a new thread so I made this one, cock. Hope I did the right thing

Twinkle the amount of follicles I've had has gone up and down throughout. And last time in the end they saw 4 and got out 8 eggs. Some follicles stop growing, some speed up, some hide.

Twinkle I was told that around 10 follicles is what they're hoping for so yes 12 is good

tame you poor thing. What a day. That said, if you go anywhere, I shall come and find you hunt you down and persuade you to come back drag you back by your ears to the thread. You are not bringing the thread down at all so please don't think that. You are being put through the wringer and we just want to support you any way we can. Massive cyber handhold. X

mejust you are also having a shitty time. DR sucks cock at the best of times and three weeks of it deserves some sort of award. I really hope you feel better stimming.

joos my potty mouth and I aim to please and will positively encourage lesboerotic crushes I think I'm going to get you a t-shirt saying 'I went to Brno and all I did was visit a shit Tesco'. You can wear it until you pick the kids up.

twinks thank fuck the clinic bothered to call you back !

Hello to everyone else.

Noks xx

Oh tame no platitudes here either but feel for you. Limbo land and post-IVF BFN are up there with the worst experiences of my life. God, I'm miserable. Just went onto the ante-natal thread used by those who were on my TTC thread and am now sobbing like a baby. Got to get this DE cycle sorted out soon, I think but DH still unconvinced. Is it wrong that I keep thinking my life would be easier without him?

How're you all doing?

hi tam please stay positive your little bean is a fighter xx
hello chocco how are you?

well juicy you would be proud of me hubby just stabbed me with menopur in the leg,they are battered by the way from buserelin but dont want to do the stomach,i was shittin it but it wasnt that bad felt wierd but had let the med rest in pen for 20 mins while struggling to find a spot so maybe that helped with the no burning,hubby getting annoyed at me taking so long but i promp shouted whos bloody going through this me not you.its getting tougher and tougher as it goes on.

life have you stabbed yourself yet?

hello nokkie thanks for the praise

Respisa- my old antenatal thread was Dec 08, I was due christmas day.

Reading it kills me. Took me a while but figured out they have all had about another 5 kids each since then.

Tame you gotta stay positive, that little flicker was there so just keep hoping

res I know it's a tough time but as difficult as it is its important not to let it come between you and your DH. You need each other xxx

tortie big hugs, wait till the next scan, then you'll know more, the waiting is shit but a heartbeat is moving in the right direction, hang on in there x

me I got sort of panicky on burserelin. It's a fecking evil drug.

karbea I agree with mejust it's usually 36 hrs from trigger.

joos you have a great career in travel reviewing ahead of you. And noks has one in slogan t-shirt design.

Oh tortie not more worry, love. I'm sorry this is not plain sailing for you.

twinks I'm glad the clinic gave you and answer finally.

res I have to hide the Oct 2013 threads. When they start a new one, I catch sight of it in active and have to hide the fucker. This is really, really hard. :(

tame you belong right here with us, and we're thinking of you all the time, even (or especially) when we don't hear from you for a couple of days. Bless you, what a strain this must be having on you.

mejust I was fine for the first week of DR and then in the second week I got bad headaches, night sweats, anxiety attacks (legs turning to jelly), tearfulness. I can say that after only a day and a half of progynova which is an oestrogen tablet, the headaches are less severe, and I feel slightly better. I know that menopur is a different medication, but hopefully it will counteract some of the worst effects of DR. You've been DR for a month, so I'm not surprised you're feeling bad. If it doesn't get better in the next day or so, you should definitely talk to the clinic about it.

nokkie 11+2 !! Fantastic.

buzzy how are you??

Hi to everybody else!

Resipsa, can you remind me of your full TTC history and then we can devise a plan to boost your husband's resolve to continue with AC. Do you have any other children? How old are you and DH? What kind of personality is he? Stay cool, we will sort him out x

Hi juicy. How's the Czech Republic looking today? Kind of you to offer to sort him out but after the row of the weekend before last when he called me obsessed and said that I'd "manipulated" him into first IVF cycle, not sure how amenable he is to persuasion. He simply does not understand the omnipresent urge I feel to have a(nother) child which is exacerbated by bloody everyone around me doing that very thing. He seems more concerned by the potential "waste" money but how do you compare the burden of a manageable debt to the joy of a child? He's just a weirdo, I fear (with whom I have been since 1997 so it shouldn't be news).

For the record, I'm 42, he's 37 and we have one DD who is 2. Been tying for a second since Sept 11.

Self - absorbed? Moi?

How are the rest of you today?

Morning all. I'm working from home this morning, so I can actually post on this thread during the day!

I'm on CD3/4 (3 by the way the clinic counts, 4 from when I actually started bleeding). First scan on Friday. I'm feeling quite relaxed about it all at the moment.

res I don't know what to say. This is all hard enough without having to drag someone reluctant along with you. Is his objection primarily financial?

tortie how are you today?

buzz how are things?

joos I love a bit of aimless wandering myself, but I admire your stubborn adherence to your rules :)

Morning druggies! I am really struggling to keep up with you lot. Just quickly so sorry about limbo-land, tame. I totally hear lots of you about AN-threads. In my "it should have been my EDD" misery I looked in April 2013 a while ago and there was a completely forrin world out there. Fingers crossed for more Chech wins and about the travel guide developments. Sorry your H is not cooperating repsi, if mine wasn't we would not be here, so it must be incredibly frustrating. Not much news from me, I am on the pill starting DR in just over a week, the net result so far are thrush and spots, but luckily no suicidal tendencies yet. I am off for a work-trip abroad next week, so I hope I won't develop any there...

hello everyone im feeling a little better no temp or headache just hope the palps stay away having weird dreams but prob due to being anxious now nearer to Ec,you were all right if this morning is anything to go by my mood feels lighter I HATE BLOODY BUSERELIN.i also cut down to 1 tab of metformin yesterday as i felt overloaded on drugs.

nook good luck for your scan tomorrow

motorglad your feeling a little better now DR is horrific,where are you at with your donor at the mo?

karb if im right i think you have a scan today good luck

tame I don't know what to say, but I am thinking of you and DH at this time.

respi I really do not know what to say. Wuld seeing a fertility counsellor help? For the two of you? Or is that overkill?

juicy i'm loving your remixes of my name. How are you doing?

mejust hopefully you'll start to feel better soon- you have been through the wars. My jab was fine. Did it myself. Did hurt a bit more than the bureselin, but then my stomachs a pincushion and may just be fed up.

twinkle it is a quality over quantity thing. I hope know no is comparing my mutant ovaries to anything as it is at the other end of the 'under 3 follicle' spectrum. In that it is counter-productive to a good result.

Me - well i could sit here and worry that the chances of my cycle being cancelled are increased, but what would that achieve? I've got 3 scans/bloods from day 6 to monitor the situation and i'm happy that the clinic are concerned and discussing this.

Resipsa, this is serious stuff, baby-making at our age. Are these babies (whom we have yet to meet) more important than our marriages? Will our lives be okay if we don't have them? Are you going to be okay with just the one? Should our husbands move heaven and earth to try and give us what we want?

I suspect the answers to some of these questions may be different for all of us. My life would be pretty dire without my husband but when, after the miscarriage last year, we were failing to get pregnant month after month and AC was not on the horizon (and never would be due to financial constraints) I would regularly fantasize about running away and getting spectacularly knocked up by random strangers.

I regularly considered whether my marriage could sustain the weight of not having a baby in it, but when I look back now I can see that the question wasn't whether my marriage could survive with no baby but whether it could survive my aching obsession. Now that I am approaching IVF at full throttle I know the strength of what me and th'usband have in terms of love and commitment to each other and no way is a child who I have never met going to get in the way of that.

A failed IVF cycle will devastate us, but, at 42, I know we're done. I'm not destroyed by that thought: I squandered one baby years ago when I had an abortion and so I certainly don't feel that angst like I 'deserve' a child in the way that some women do. You've been together since 1997 so I won't ask you if you are 'in love' with your DH, but do you prize him still? Is he a Good Man? Does he adore your daughter? If the answer is 'yes' I think you're really, really lucky

I think you've got a year to convince him to try donor eggs and secretly come up with the cash by yourself. But take that time to enjoy your lovely daughter and train your brain to accept an only child, then maybe no-one will get hurt in all this x

Resipsa, what took you so long to try for a baby, may I ask?

resipsa i think juicy has summed it up. It is a catch 22 someone may be resentful with either outcome, so it is a marriage question.

As I've said before, I well both of us had some therapy last year and infertility/ our marriage was discussed a few times and I cannot rate it highly enough.

Thank you all for your help over my situation. I wanted cold advice and got it!

Big hugs res. I haven't ventured on our new grads thread as yet. And I hardly post on our TTC thread either. I just don't feel like I belong on either of them. The grads one cause I'm not pg and the TTC one because all my friends have left :(. This thread feels like home now. Keep posting as all the girls are lovely here and will help you through it. I'm sorry I can't advise on your situ as I've never experienced it but I do understand how you feel if that's any consolation.

Thinking of you tame.

Hi to everyone else.

Question - should OH be ejaculating every 2-3 days in the run up to ivf to keep sperm fresh?

twinks some clinics advise it (the wankalot protocol) and I don't think it can hurt, tbh. I suggested it to mr euro a while back. I haven't asked for progress reports though.

Twink, yes, yes, yes. Th'usband got sick to the back teeth of me asking him every three days: 'Have you had a wank yet?' 'Are you going to have a wank?' 'When did you last have a wank?'

Buzzy, just seen a youtube video of these caves in Brno. Will I have to sit in a boat crammed with ignorant, smelly forriners? I wish I hadn't watch The Descent