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Eggcellent Egg Buddies: are you IVF cycling in June/July/August 2013? Then get your druggy arses over here for some pure fucking menkulling...

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juicypair · 27/05/2013 14:51

NokklingtonStStation, I couldn't find a new thread so I made this one, cock. Hope I did the right thing

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buzzybee123 · 31/05/2013 16:30

thanks motor I spoke to them at EPAU, they say they have to wait as anything else is inconclusive, its the lack of symptoms and all the cramping

mejust · 31/05/2013 16:36

hi life yes i had a period started buserelin on day cd2 but started bleeding again couple days after period stopped but they said that shows meds working ,have you got scan booked?
motor i see you have some of the same symptoms join the club im trying not to be so snappy but it just comes out some of the time.

tam how did it go?
hello crisps

buzz i agree if they thought from your scan you were maybe going to have a miscarriage im sure they would of said ,when i was scanned they said my placenta was low and may cause problems they didnt keep quiet.

MotorcycleMama · 31/05/2013 16:45

buzzy I know this may sound unrealistic in the circumstances, but you need to reduce your stress levels a bit, try to do some sort of relaxation or whatever works for you. It is so hard to think and plan when you are as upset and anxious as you understandably are. All my best vibes are going out to you and everything crossed for a happy conclusion. Keep us updated. X

wishuponapositive · 31/05/2013 17:09

Hey ladies,

Did anyone take Microgynon 30 as part of their down regging?

NookNook · 31/05/2013 17:43

What the HELL has been going on around here??

Juicy come back you twat.

Buzzy hang in there.

Big hugs to everyone else. Will post properly later. Xx

Lifeasafish · 31/05/2013 18:20

motor my scan is on the 11th june. So quite a long down reg I think.

buzzy I agree with the rest, you must be out of your mind but there is nothing concrete just yet.

wish no, I didn't, but I know it can be used. I coldn't have anyway - the pill doesn't like me nor I, it!

nooks good to see you! How are you doing?

wishuponapositive · 31/05/2013 19:31

Thank life, I just seem to be having problems with it.

Luckily it was my last pill today but for the last 2 weeks I've had massive boobs that hurts so much, I've suffered with a bad back and had headaches and sickness. That's not to mention my I wanna kill someone wonderful mood!

My newly preggers friend says its exactly how she's feeling, atleast she has something to show for it eh?

tametortie · 31/05/2013 21:46

Good evening motherf*ers!!!

Heres the personals as a start off....

buzzy I absolutely 100% KNOW where you are coming from. Miscarriage is an awful awful thing to experience. It sucks the enjoyment and happiness out of being pregnant. Unfortunately, you are in limbo, which is the worst place to be. You need to gather as much information as possible. The scan and a clearblue digi is not enough evidence that you are going to miscarry. Those fucking clearblue digis are the work of satan. 4 days out on a scan at your stage is a matter of millimeteres and can make a huge difference or be negiligible- you wont know for 2 weeks. Just a suggestion but can you book a private scan for a weeks time? As a reassurance scan? HCG monitoring at this stage may be difficult but I honestly think that you are not asking to see the numbers double, you are asking them to check they arent dropping- so what is the issue??? Push for more info if you want it, you need to be able to prepare yourself mentally for the best or the worst. And none of us can tell you which way this will go. I wish we could but none of us really know. You dont know either. Its just a case of preparing and gathering the facts. Keep taking your meds though chick. I know when I miscarried, I want into self destruct mode and just stopped taking everything- not a good idea. Stay calm, relax and voice your worries to us. We are all listening and will try to reassure you. I KNOW that when the fear takes hold though, there is nothing anyone can say. You need to just be able to ride this out xxxxxxx

wish I am also evil on the pill. And on buserilin. I'm just all round nasty!!

Hello to everyone else xxxxxxxxxx

AFM, a very looooong day today. And not the best news. HCG is only 65.3 so too low for the stage I am at. The good news is that we managed to get pregnant so I wasnt imagining all those tests!! I really did get pregnant. Not for long, but I did Smile

Have to have another test on Monday but luckily for me, a fertility consultant at the hospital I work at loves me and is going to do it to save me plodding up to Notts. Smile He is an angel. And he was very hopeful for me (he did my scratch) but I am bleeding properly into a pad now so I know the HCG is dropping and not holding off the flow anymore. Its worked out really nicely because my ferility doc at nurture is friends with the one from work so we have worked it out nicely for Monday to make it easy. Once again, I love my clinic.

I really really want to stop my pessaries because I feel as though they are holding off the inevitable but DH doesnt want me too. What would you do???

Had a fab conversation last night with Penny regarding DH, sperm and sperm DNA. We have an antibiotic protocol to start him on which has spurred me on. DH has entered my fertility bootcamp. He's fucking hating it and is guzzling wine at the mo to prove a point but he can piss off.

High sperm DNA fragmentation causes;

  • arrest/slow growth and arrest of embryos after day 3 (US!!!)
  • No blastocysts (fuck me!! its us again!!!)
-infertility and miscarriage (erm...yep...thats us!!)

So DH can piss off. He is having antibiotics, antioxidants, whatever it takes. No more miscarriages.

Penny also said no more treatment till we have the infection testing and treatment done. Suits me- a couple of months break will do us good.

She was really fascinating- talked a lot of sense about our situation and the whole infection thing. Definitely something we will be pursuing as it seems to really fit the issues we are having.

Here is a classic quote from our conversation that struck a chord with me;

"Great embryologists can make embryos out of dead or nearly dead sperm. However, they will not make a baby."

In other words, we need to improve our groundwork. No moving sperm is not something we should be going into treatment with.

xxxx

chocoloco1 · 31/05/2013 21:53

tame so sorry to hear your news. I've been there fairly recently and it's fucking awful waiting to hear back about hcg levels etc. Your info re sperm etc sounds really positive and you sound very determined and the treatment plan sounds good. X

chocoloco1 · 31/05/2013 22:12

wish no experience of microgynon, I was meant to be on it for my first cycle but wasn't allowed as bp was too high, so had norethisterone instead. Thank god you've finished it now! What's next? Buserelin? Menopur? What protocol are you on?

buzzy so sorry you're going through such uncertainty at the moment, with what seems like no easy solution to getting some possible answers. Thinking of you

motor crap about the uti, it's making me want to cross my legs just thinking about the pain

life fuzzy-headed doesn't sound good, I remember headaches for the first days of buserelin and moods, but not much else

euro glad your results mean you can crack on! Wow, that's not long now

Not much happening with me: we have a consultation on the 18th June to discuss treatment for next cycle. I think for now we've decided not to have the NK cells tests, but consultant did say that they will sometimes give steroids etc without testing- bit scared about the whole steroid thing if I'm honest. I kind of like the idea of the tests to see if there is a problem, but if there is I'm not so sure I'd want to do anything IYSWIM. Hopefully I will be having an endometrial scratch in early-mid July and then cracking on after that to fit in with the summer hols. It's getting closerGrin

Hello to everyone else

buzzybee123 · 31/05/2013 22:44

well if I was a rational person Hmm Hmm then I would say wait and until you've had the next blood test, did you up the progesterone??

Glad you had a good chat with Penny and you have a plan

choco it sounds like all systems go

thanks for your support ladies I do appreciate it x

mejust · 31/05/2013 23:04

tam im really sorry to hear that x

twinklestar2 · 31/05/2013 23:26

Big hugs tame

Keeping my fingers crossed for you buzz

EuroShaggleton · 31/05/2013 23:55

Hugs to tame and buzz. I'm sorry that this has to be so difficult.

tame everything I have read suggests sperm DNA issues for us too. There's not much he can improve in terms of lifestyle though.

wishuponapositive · 01/06/2013 00:09

Hi choco, I now have AF visit for a few days which my body is screaming for! Then it's on to Gonal F injections on Tuesday with a mock ET. Scans start a week after that!
It's getting closer so it's turning from excitment and positivism to dread and fear!

I love how positive you are :-)

putthecrispsDOWN · 01/06/2013 09:03

tame sorry if things don't work out for you, what a shame. I am mentally high-fiving you for your kick ass attitude though, I wish I could bottle your proactivity and pma. I try to stick with the principle that every failed cycle gives you more information for your next so I hope in a way you get something positive put of this. X

NookNook · 01/06/2013 09:44

Tame so sorry you're going through this. You sound determined to look forwards though which is really positive and inspirational. I still have everything crossed for you. Keep us updated.

Life my scan is on the 13th so I beat you for the longest ever long protocol! Grin

Nokkie73 · 01/06/2013 09:53

tame I am really sorry that your results aren't what you would expect at this stage. That said, I have to take my hat off to you for your totally wicked attitude. You are really brave and a brilliant example to us all. It's so important to have a plan - when my ivf failed earlier the year, I felt a billion times better when I formulated a plan for the future (well, the sort-term future anyway) after years of just trying with the very unhelpful 'unexplained' tag hanging around my neck. Spaff Bootcamp sounds brilliant ! I hope you manage to have a reasonably ok weekend, all things considered. Nix

buzz I am really hoping that you have a better day, my love. I will be thinking of you. Xx

choccywoccydoodah so you'll be getting back on the bus soon then ? Fabulous news. You sound quite upbeat about it which is great.

Help to all the other ladies. I have to go and get ready now as I'm off to Kew Gardens for the day for my friend's birthday. I have cooked coconut macaroons (my new favourite recipe, mainly because I put cherries on the top of them and they look like coconut titties), frosted mini carrot cakes and a curly wurly birthday cake. I know, I make Nigella look like a right lazy slag.

Noks x

tametortie · 01/06/2013 10:02

Buzzy rational?? us???? Grin I know I should really wait until the results of the next blood test before talking about it all as if it is over but I just 'know'. I 'know' I am not pregnant anymore and the result I got yesterday is the hormone on its way down, not up. Unless I'm one of these unlucky people where it goes up, down, up, down- jesus. I've read a few stories like that and I think I'd have to be knocked out till its over Sad Hope you are feeling ok my love- I know its hard being in a waiting game to hear but lets just pray quietly and hope. Are you still having cramps? Did you get some gestone injections?

I have done the calculations- my 1st positive test was Friday 24th, very very early so I am not sure whether that was HCG from me or trigger. So I am discounting that. Next positive was Monday. Now, doesn't your HCG have to be at 25 to get a positive on a test??? So at the very minimum, it should have been double that on Wednesday and at least double again yesterday. 65 seems very low to me for yesterdays result- I was 18 days post eC and had tested positive very early so should have really been a lot higher. I'm being realistic- I think that the level was on its way back down when I was tested yesterday. I have put a few extra pessaries in but the bleeding is in peoper flow now so its hard to keep them in (sorry for the graphic slasher horror talk).

Thanks for praising my positivity- inside I feel sad and desperate. I never thought I would need a 4th cycle. I am 'Fiona'. I'm one of those sad women on fertility friends where people read your signature and wince and think 'time to give up love'. I may have to put a shitty quote on my signature about dancing in the fucking rain or something.

Good to hear that everybody else is getting going with their cycles- I love hearing how many eggs people get, how many embryos and then sitting through the 2ww- its so exciting!!! Am reallly looking forward to sharing your cycles with you nooknook, choco twinks wish and mejust and euro- all systems are go and I have everything crossed for all of you.xxxx

We will probably not cycle again until August/September but I hope you don't mind me hanging around on here???? I really want to bore you all with my naval gazing, vitamin regimes and theories on sperm DNA.Hmm what a fucking bore......

tametortie · 01/06/2013 10:04

Noks- those coconut titties sound an absolute treat!!!! nom nom nom Smile

Nokkie73 · 01/06/2013 10:53

tame I'll send you some ! Please don't put one of those dancing fucking douchebags in the rain emoticons on Fertility Fiends. Can't you have a lady standing in the rain flipping the bird instead ? That would be much more appropriate. Please please please hang around. I need another sweary partner now that she who shall remain nameless has taken her potty mouth and fucked off (not for long I hope). We luff you.

Awwwwww, group fucking hug.

Right, I shall take me and my coconut and cherry tits off to Kew.

Tutty bye.

Norks xx

EuroShaggleton · 01/06/2013 11:12

nook so I guess you will be stimming from mid-June? We might be cycle buddies. My period will be due a day or two before your scan. So I guess I will be headed for EC in late June.

noks, nice coconuts Wink. I need to do some baking. But at the moment I am enjoying a lazy morning of doing absolutely sweet FA.

tame you sound so resigned.

buzz how are you doing today?

Should we do a round up of where everyone is because I am losing track?

Euro - natural IVF#2 starting mid June, EC probably late June.

NookNook · 01/06/2013 11:37

Ooo Euro would love to be cycle buddies with you! I'm rather jealous of your relatively drug free ivf.

Good idea about the update.

Me - 3rd IVF, looooong protocol, currently on down regulation, egg collection should be late June. already considering alternatives to parenthood feeling super positive about this cycle!

NookNook · 01/06/2013 11:39

Oh yeah and NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO LEAVE!

Nokkie73 · 01/06/2013 11:39

Pah, everyone is running late so I can annoy you lot for a bit longer.

Fanks euro. I also make cupcakes that look like titties. I think that i may be a little obsessed..... So you're ploughing on with treatment then and not letting the dodgy smear get in the way. It's just such a shame that this dodgy result put you back a month.

Noks, I have been clean now and off the booze for four months and three days. Oh, sorry, wrong group. Ttc for four and a half years. MC in July 2009. No luck since. Failed ivf in March 2013. Surprise bfp straight after ivf. 9+6 (or thereabouts - doctor thinks she may have over-measured by a couple of days). Am scared shitless. I have joined the ivf worriers board but for some reason don't think I quite belong there yet.

Nx

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