We laugh in the face of OPKS and stomp on our thermometers! Don your customised shag capes, ladies; it's Just Shagging Thread 15

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Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

The link to Part 14 is here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1674505-Out-with-the-OPKs-ban-the-body-temping-heres-Just-Shagging-thread-14

The link to the latest grads thread is here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1699553-Shagged-Out-Viroids-7th-Thread-From-conception-to-birth-living-proof-that-JSing-really-does-work

Happy shagging shaggers!

maybe you have just ov later this month dulcet how many days do you think literal phase was last month? use that to calc Ur due date this month from today rather than when u would normally expect and see what happens. I ovd 7 days earlier this month than I did last month. all sorts of things delay ov. were you more stressed or anything this month around normal ov time? I think that def affects mine...I ovd at the end of our holiday this month so must be something in it!

Just wondering if anyone takes a multi vit? I've been taking pregnacare but I'm not always good at remembering to take it. was thinking about going back to just folic acid as they are expensuve but found this which makes an interesting read... www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8928234/Women-trying-to-conceive-should-take-vitamins-researchers.html

Hey all, yeah i am pretty excited about the wedding, i've been to America a few times (my mums American) but never to California so it will be nice, my sister and i are being groom ladies for my brother

Boo Essie BFN's are pants

What a hectic day, so glad to put my feet up and relax now

lilso if you ovved 7 days earlier are you expecting ertd 7 days early too? I ovved late so if my literal phase is infact 14 days like 'everyone' else then ertd is infact not late but due tomorrow/sat....? Hmmmm. Interesting!

No I don't take multivitamin but I ought to. Did take frolic acid for a while but it ran out and keep forgetting to get more.

Oh how cool cookie being groom ladies! I'm also enjoying my first sit down of the day.

Ooh interesting article lil

lil I take multivitamins, I think it just helps to get good levels of necessary vitamins. My GP said for instance that it's recommended to take vitamin D when TTC and pregnant. It is expensive though! But I take Pregnacare and ordered some Solgar pre-natal, which is cheaper but still good.

Oh, and multivitamins also have some iodine, which was in the news recently as being important during pregnancy.

Re multivitamins - asda have pregnacare in their 3 for £10 so not quite so expensive - only the basic one but has everything you need. I take them most days when I remember and will probably swap to the omega 3 ones when I get BFP as they are more expensive.

Pregnancy app I use is pink pad - I like it because its pink and has a little heart on the calendar when you've DTD stupidly girlie and it was free!

Essie how long have you been using contraband, and how long charting cycle length? Most people's literal phase is 14 days but some (mine included) is regularly shorter - the shorter it is, the harder to conceive apparently. Are your periods always regular?

Hi Essie it doesn't matter when you ovulate, your lp shouldn't change at all from month to month. of course there are exceptions to that rule but the norm is you have an lp if whatever days, generally considered 14, and after that time from ov ertd is due, so yeah I'm expecting ertd earlier this month. I think my lp actually is 14 days but could be 16 which is reassuring after coming off the pill.

Good to hear everyone's thoughts on vits. and the offer too..shall be looking for that tomorrow!

Rock I like the sound of the girly app! wish I'd seen that one before I bought ff. although I do like it for all the info snippets it gives you.

Ive been severely symptom spotting today. and over a week before I can test. boo

guess fatigue isn't one of my imagined symptoms. think I should go to bed!

Morning all.
So I think ERTD is looming now as I've got cramps. This is good news (so I'm telling myself) because it means literal phase this cycle is infact 14 days. Rock I've only used contraband this one cycle and probably won't bother next cycle because it's too much faff and I've done my own head in as well as all of yours.

Definitely going to get multivits though after reading the article (thanks lil). I try not to read much online or in mags about fertility because I am committed to the jsing cause and I feel safer with my head in the sand for now as the whole thing scares the crap out of me.

DH got all excited cos he opened my amazon package last night thinking it was a new CD and 4 million hpts jumped out at him. I had to get in there quick and crush his excitement, poor love.

What's everyone doing for the bank hol? Besides digging out winter woollies?!
xx

Sorry for brewing ERTD Essie but at least you know literal phase is good! Think I'm abandoning DS and DH on Monday so I can see the girls :) but its nice for them to have an occasional day just the 2 of them! Other than that nothing much planned.

I actually have no idea if I'm upduffed this month - still on a WTF cycle so don't know when to test! Did a test with FMU this morning and BFN - if I ovulated early like I thought I had, I'd be 14DPO so should have had at least a faint positive however I wasn't sure if it was EWCM or if it was (tmi) just gunk that my body was getting rid of after the miscarriage. Going by my typical cycle, I only ovulated at the start of this week so far too early to tell yet!

I'm behind, I'm behind! Hi everyone!

Lil - I need to go shoe shopping with you, CLEARLY!

Rock - fingers crossed!

Essie - "pile of granny pants" is my new favorite phrase! Bummer about the impending ERTD. The news about the LP is excellent, though - way to stay positive

Speaking of LP - Dulcet, I've tried extending LP by taking extra vit B6 (didn't work) and red raspberry leaf (also didn't work). My ovulation got later and later, but the LP never budged! So I quit all the extra supplements (still taking prenatal vit, though). More recently, I switched to organic meat and organic whole milk -- and my LP was actually one day longer last month (confirmed using contraband. It's been over a year, I get a small pass, yes?). There is so much estrogen in the food supply, at least here in the States. So, the organic route seems to be paying off, probably in many other ways too. Except on my wallet.

Red after you mentioned organic milk earlier in the fred I switched as well actually as I do comsume rather a lot, and to organic cheese where poss as I eat rather a lot way too much of that too. I have dairy farming roots so know what crap they fill the cows with so it makes complete sense and can only be a good thing to avoid surely?

at granny pants!

Yes Lil we all need your shoe shopping expertise as I can never find ones I need when I have bought the rest of the outfit. Should start with the shoes perhaps?

The flipping clutch on my car went today. Ideal.

ERTD here and making up for lost time. Still, at least I know where I am now, and with my 'new' only just sussed out literal phase it means I might, could, perhaps, possibly still ov while on hols which would be fun!

Red I was drinking organic milk too as I read it was healthier, but then I read recently that it has over 40% less iodine in it than normal milk. Also, I was drinking whole milk, because it has more omega 3 than semi-skimmed, but then I read it has less calcium. Sigh... sometimes it just gets too complicated!

Or I could just stay with my organic, whole milk and drink double the quantities!

Helllllooooooo

Easy day at work to day yet still feel shattered so got my feet up and chocolate is my saviour!!

I have been taking folic acid (tesco's own, £1 for 90) and occasionally when i remember a normal womans vitamin do you think thats ok?

Evening all

essie sorry ertd showed up, but yay for 14 day literal phase. should help you better guess when Ur due now so you will know when to test . was lmao when I read about Ur dh opening the hpts! sport to hear about the car

rock fx its just too early for you!

Hi red feel free to come shopping with me. I find it even more fun to spend someone else's money! I got quite a few pairs in debenhans70% off + buy 1 get 1 half price sale. i have never shipped like that before but the one thing I did differently was wore heels to go shopping. made me feel more feminine and better about myself so I was more open to trying things I wouldn't have before., although Essie I do now have some shoes I need to buy outfits for!

I'm tempted to follow the going organic thing. I didn't realise they filled the cows with hormones. ( we need a mad cow emoticon here!)

blue I heard whole milk was better for fertility than skimmed so I switched but can't remember what the reason was now. re the less calcium I don't think you get as much as you would think from milk. you get a lot from green veg like broccoli, spinach and kale. Not sure about iodine though

cookie I think the issue with normal vitamins is the amount of vitamin a us bad for bean, but not sure if it makes a difference pre conception or before bfp. its probably fine as long as u switch to pregnancy vits as soon as u get bfp but I'm no expert.

glad my googling was helpful. off to watch greys anatomy now ( no spoilers from the states please, us Brits are usually behind you... and I'm behind all the other Brits!)

lil what episode you up to, i love Greys, i've watched it all

just starting up 24. season finale!

Thanks red, Good to know what works and doesn't. I did the CB trial last year and I saw my ov was late. I actually had two months with two peaks which was confusing! It's never been the 12-14 days its meant to be and wondering if that's a problem.

Hope you all have relaxing BH weekend plans!

OMG to greys! there's always so much drama in their season finale's!

Who knows, dulcet - vit B6 does seem to help some women, according to the Almighty Internet. Just didn't help me!

I think I am the only woman on earth who doesn't watch Grey's!

cookie, I'd say keep up with the folic acid at least. Then again, plenty of women have their "oops" pregnancies and don't start take vitamins before or right away, and have healthy babies. So maybe we shouldn't worry ourselves quite as much as we do?

Be proud of me: Two solid days of JSing, and going for a third round tomorrow morning before leaving for a weekend at my parents' (I've said here before that NO hanky-panky will happen at my parents' house!). I hope we've, ahem, loaded up enough in case the elusive egg drops while we're away!

I don't watch greys either if that helps! I do watch plenty of (rubbish) TV but not that!

So any potential news this weekend? I have another week to wait so looking for your BFPs to get me through!

Hey guys, not been on for a few days busy with work and also DIY, turning the back bedroom into a nursery! Which means haven't DTD for a few days either and think I ov'd as had EWCM so missed the bus this month. Not too disappointed as haven't yet had a full cycle so will help to calculate. Must get more focused next month!

Cheers for all the advice about vits, i still take the folic acid a little less like likely to take the other ones!! But if i ever get up duffed i will switch to pregnancy multi vits.

lil Greys er was Arizona not the biggest bitch ever!!!!!!!!! and April and Avery ahhhhhhh

hi all. back again after ertd.. batteries fully recharged after a lovely family bank holiday weekend. Was much needed too emotionally reset myself.

I have decided to relax and return to the ethos off the thread. Calendar has been deleted from my phone and I'm stopping symptom obsessing. dh and I are just going to spend time together and js when we fancy it, otherwise it just feels there is too much pressure on both of us and we stop enjoying rl.

hope everyone is having a lovely bh!