We laugh in the face of OPKS and stomp on our thermometers! Don your customised shag capes, ladies; it's Just Shagging Thread 15

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Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

The link to Part 14 is here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1674505-Out-with-the-OPKs-ban-the-body-temping-heres-Just-Shagging-thread-14

The link to the latest grads thread is here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1699553-Shagged-Out-Viroids-7th-Thread-From-conception-to-birth-living-proof-that-JSing-really-does-work

Happy shagging shaggers!

Since Dec 2012.

I don't know, I guess it could, but I my poor cervix has had rather a lot of unwanted attention over the last 2 years due to having abnormal cells then two rounds of treatment to remove said cells and umpteen appointments to poke about and check etc etc, so I reckon if there was anything else up with it they might have mentioned it? They did tell me when I finally had a normal result last autumn that I shouldn't have any problems getting preggers as everything looked 'fine'. It's never been missing before! Perhaps it just hid because it's sick of being looked at cos I know how it feels!

Come out, come out wherever you are EssieCervix! Stop hiding now - the game is over! Seriously, I read somewhere though Essie that the cervix changes position depending on whether you are fertile or not and at other times of the month. Dr Goofle it and I'm sure you'll find info on it. I wouldn't worry too much - I'm sure if it was there before, then it hasn't gone wandering off inside for a holiday to the Boobalicious Mountains or anything (sorry, I'm being weird now!)

Hi Essie! Holiday sounds awesome Sounds like JSers paradise! Sympathies on the shy cervix - smears are embarrassing enough at the best of times, poor thing!
I've been feeling really down today, for no good reason really I know it's stupid but after feeling really good about it a week ago, I already feel like I KNOW I'm not pregnant this month. Still 9 days til I can test - not sure I can stand the suspense. Please issue me with a hooyah at the first point I'm driving you all mental.
Lol, that's a bad sign, my phone just autocorrected point to Pinot!!

Hi everyone. nessa you are not annoying but I think maybe a tiny hooya required... so hooya to you. hope it helps! I was a bit mental in tww last cycle as documented on this thread. TTC messes with the mind. maybe Ur auto correct is trying to tell you something re the pinot?

hi Essie and welcome back. sorry u spent Ur holiday surrounded by ov women. but we'll done o the jsing all week and right thru ov. all that relaxation must surely have u on the bfn track.

you have also reminded me I'm due a smear this month. great.

red re the stress thing I thought it could delay ovulation. certainly seems to for me but as we've said many a time different people different reactions. I am really trying to avoid stress as I'm starting to get signs I may ov and don't want to risk stress delaying it and causing a long cycle again. last cycle I ov at the end of our hol which was early for me and I'm sure it was because I was relaxed. I'd had signs it was coming over a week before but last day at work before we travelled was horrendously stressful so for me I don't think coincidence.

bear the good thing about a bfn at 10dpo is you can still speculate its a false negative. hang on in there.

hi to everyone else.

dh and I are useless so far this cycle. jsd on Saturday for first time since ertd vacated and nothing since. last night he was too tired and tonight we ended up going out til late and hes too tired again now. tomorrow the cape shall be donned cone rain or shine!

I lost the thread! glad you had a good holiday Essie! hopefully the pregnant woman vibes will have rubbed off on you!

all is good in the coffee household. just found it were have got a refund of some ppi so are able to make some vital home improvements so I'm giddy with excitement! the improvements will literally be life changing and willmake having 2 children (if it ever happens) so much easier!

however dhs boss is ill and this means dh May have to be away more with work which massively effects ttc... I may have to ban travel on certain days...

Hi all. Sorry I've been MIA, working shifts has me knackered. It's good that I'm only in three days a week and have four at home but twelve hour shifts are epically tiring! Hoping I get used to them soon.

Have I missed anything exciting? I see some more new names; welcome to the shagfest!

Essie The lovely Bear is right about the cervix being high or low dependent on your cycle phase, I can't remember which way round it is though. Hope all is clear, I had a lot of tests for a dodgy smear last year too and you've reminded me my 6 month check up is due.

I don't know what's going on with my body. I've had a 37 day cycle since my hormones settled after my implant and I've been trying to track signs of ov on my fertility app but this last cycle I had ov pain and EWCM a week before my app said ov was due then got my period on day 33 (giving me a luteal phase of exactly 14 days) However, it was only a light, 3day period (mine have always been heavy and long) with a little spotting on day 4. Anyway, got cape on yesterday and spotted again afterwards (bright pink as opposed to the usual SBG) so I have no idea what my body is up to. Sorry for over share but I'm confused and you're the only people that won't think I'm insane for letting it all out.lol

How exciting Coffee! I'm sure we're owed some ppi but I don't think it would be much and I can't be bothered to sort it out. How lazy I am! Good for you though. That's lovely.

Hi Andie. Glad the job seems to be going well even if it is tiring. From what you say, I don't know, but I do read time and again on here and Dr Goofle that when some women have shorter and lighter periods than normal they're actually upduffed. I'm not trying to unnecessarily raise your hopes but have you done a test?

Thanks for the support guys. I know I'm still in with a chance but because of DH's problems it feels quite a slim chance. We had family round from overseas last weekend and they were asking how long we'd been married now (4 years) and I held my breath for the next question but luckily it never came. The silence did hang in the air a bit though. I showed off my nieces and nephews instead but I'd have loved to at least have been able to say I am upduffed. Oh well, maybe one day.

Red- poor DH but do you think it's delay tactics maybe? Or am I being mean?

Nessa- you're not annoying at all so don't even think it < hooyas Ness for thinking it> I hold regular pity parties and everyone's welcome. We also have a symptom spotting cave you can hide in and a unicorn you can stroke when feeling or crazed. Sound weird? Oh yeah!

I can't scroll back to find out what else is going on but hi everyone! Hope all is okay.

oooh yes bear and andie you are both right, Dr Goofle has confirmed that my cervix does indeed go walkies and all sorts at different times during my cycle. Wow. Every day is a school day on this fred/when ttc!

So had a terrible dream last night that my sister was upduff. She is 20 (mahoosive age gap!) and is currently single, carefree and travelling the world, but in my dream she was home in tears and preggers. Not good. Obviously my subconcious has decided to dredge up another fear of mine that she will achieve it before I do!

Ness don't beat yourself up. Sorry you are feeling cruddy though, being up and down is all part of the joy that is ttc, at least thats what I am finding. Hugs and a teensy hooya.

lil DH and I were useless before holiday too, so if we haven't achieved a bfp with our holishagging efforts then I dread to think as we are always too knackered from work otherwise.

coffee yay about the ppi! I didn't think people actually really got any money back, thats fab news! Sorry to hear about DH boss though and him having to travel more.

Fx for 2ww-ers. We are massively overdue a bfp here so I'm rooting for you.

xx

Bear just think about how much more awesome it'll be telling people when it happens for you (I have no doubt that it will do) as you've wanted it for so long!

Essie I always have freaky dreams when there's something I'm stressing about, just horrible isn't it?

Welcome back Coffee and Andi

Have dtd every day since +opk so pretty sure I've done everything I can now in the 2ww.

Hi rock, high 5 to the every day jsing!

Well done Rock! Yes I do hope it will be me one day.

Essie- I have weird dreams all the time! I don't even have to be stressed. The latest the other night was DH and I having to look after a dying man on a mountainside.

haha! I suppose I can link preggers sister dream to the fact my SIL is upduff so I can sort of see why I dreamt that. I dreamt on holiday that some crazy Argentinians were trying to drive a horsebox (without any horses in it) off a cliff to hide the fact they'd stolen it. I don't own or drive a horsebox, or know anyone from Argentina, so goodness knows what that was about. Too much ouzo perhaps?!

caves, unicorns, Argentinian horse boxes....you people are bonkers. I love it! please don't ever change!

Ha! Thanks guys I need to go and hide in the symptom spotting cave - I was feeling really nauseous all afternoon, but I reckon it's more likely a bad Greggs sarnie than anything more positive Still 7 days til AF is due and I'm damned if I'm wasting another test trying too early!! Going to test on Monday - anyone else testing round then?

By the way, is there any news on the mantraband yet Red?

Arf Essie.

I think we are all a bit bonkers actually Lil.Me more than most.

ness - hang in there. Although I tested again today and got a BFN. Gah! I'm no example I know. Hooya me please if you can catch me!

Night all.

The sheer insanity of this thread sometimes really boosts my day! On the subject of weird dreams, at the weekend I dreamt I was being chased by zombies and was saved by Daryl Dixon from The Walking Dead and fell madly in love with him.
How are we all today? I missed my early bus because I decided to randomly break down in tears this morning. I think a combination of tiredness and disappointment; I had some SPG (strange pink goo) this morning so tested....BFN. With my DD I was 7 weeks pregnant before I got a BFP and that was a week after I'd been spotting so I'm holding out hope for next week but if still no joy I think that follow up smear is needed.

Hooya Bear!

Where do you all buy your POAS tests from please? Supermarket seems rather expensive. Ta.

Ice I think most of us get out sticks from Amazon. You can get boxes of th dipstick type ones really cheaply.

Andie sorry to hear about the spg. But if you didn't get a bfp with dd til 7 weeks (wow!) then perhaps you should hang in there? Especially as you had spg then too. Won't do any harm to get the follow up smear though to put your mind at rest if you've had abnormal ones before. It IS safe to have smears when you are upduff (I have seen rather a lot of controversy over this on mn before), my consultant told me so and he wears a bowtie so he must know.

ice I get my pee sticks from amazon too, they are pence each from there rather than pounds as in the supermarket.

I need a slap too. Woken up this morning with terrible eczema on the backs of my knees?! It's red raw and really sore and itchy. Not had eczema since I was about 12 so managed to convince my desperate self its a symptom. Though its more than likely the result of too much time in the pool/sea on hols, even though I've been back for several days. Hmmmph.

Well you do have to trust a man in a bow tie!

Right, I need your help! I need to help DP understand conception. 10 cycles in and he still doesn't understand why timing is so important and why 'I'm tired' and 'we will do it tomorrow' will not get us there! I've gone through angry, sad and disappointed and now I want to educate him. Anyone know any good links?? I want him to see the timing involved in particular! At the moment we have DTD since Sunday so if I ov'd yesterday or today it's pretty slim chances. God, so frustrating!

Out of all the men in the walking dead, Daryll wouldn't be my first choice of live interest!

Oh this Fred boosts me too! I forgot to say that.

Sorry about the SPG Andie. but as you said you might be jumping the gun a bit if you didn't get a BFP until 7 weeks! Hang in there.

Dulcet - how about this for educating dh: www.fertilityfriend.com/Faqs/Intercourse-Timing-and-Frequency.html

Essie - I get really bad eczema in places. I'd recommend some E45 or Oilatum which you can get in the chemist if you can't be bothered to go to the docs. I have some fantastic moisturiser on prescription called Double Base. I put it in the bath and soak in it sometimes and it's really soothing. Over time it's worked wonders for me. If its infected you might need some cream to clear up any infection so you might need to go to the docs for that. I also use E45 Itch Cream for the itchiness and Sanex moisturising shower gel (the white one for sensitive skin) and TGel (the brown one) for my hair as I get itchy scalp too. I also go for sensitive washing liquid and conditioner for clothes. That's everything I think! Sorry you may not need all that but I thought it might help.

Ice - I get my sticks on amazon as Andiesaid. I get 50 for about £7 I think.

Thanks Bear, going to have to try some of that cos its driving me insane and I'm a bridesmaid on Sat and I've noticed a little patch on my shoulder!!! Panic setting in! Bride will kill me if I'm scabby!

Might show my DH that link too. Thanks for that.

I love this fred too, feel like I can vent all the stuff I have to bottle up the rest of the time.
x

Essie- I just slather the stuff on as often as I can. If you get it on today or tomorrow am it may be under control by Sat in my experience. Good luck. Nice that you're a bridesmaid too. I love a good wedding!

Hello all,

I am sooooo tired, work is so busy at the moment we had 14 babies in on Tuesday phew i am so glad to be at home!!

Where i am at the moment, AF is due on Monday i keep feeling hopeful that this will be my month. I have no idea when i ov'd as i never got a strong line on the opk's but then i did miss a few days of testing so it is very possible i missed it, i did however dtd often during what i thought was my fertile period.

I think because September is coming up quickly, i feel the pressure of wanting to get pregnant sooner rather later (will be stopping in Sept if not pregnant and starting again in June 2014)

Also i think i have asked this before but always seem to get different answers but basically i thought if you ovulate that means you will have a period, as in you can't have a period with out ovulating?

Thanks those who mention smear test, it has reminded me that i need to sort out my next one!!