I get knocked down, but I'll get knocked up again, cos you're never gonna keep me down... The big fat posifrickintivity thread for people TTC after MC.

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I thought I'd start the new thread and earn some brownie points with the posifrickintivity Gods...

re what sal said it's a good point. I looked up stats on early detection of heartbeats and subsequent miscarriage and it turns out that the difference between seeing a heart beat at 7 weeks, 8 weeks and 9 weeks is HUGE. If you go for an early scan and can hold out til 8 weeks and there is a strong heartbeat you've got a very good chance of everything turning out OK.

over I don't think I'll pay £99 for a scan either. I agree with vix that the money is better spent treating yourself. To me it seems a large sum of money to spend, and it seems it's the same case for you. But if you can get it on the NHS, it's a different thing. If the EPU has talked about the possibility of a early scan, then definitely give them a ring and ask. There's nothing to lose isn't it?

some info here:
sites.google.com/site/miscarriageresearch/miscarriage-general

Morning all,

overanxious I'm so pleased for you, keep that positivity as it's all looking good for you. Regards an early scan, I think it's a very personal decision based on your MC experience.

I had a blighted ovum and was so shocked to find out at the 12 week scan there was just a big empty sac, so I would push for an early scan just to know an actual baby was there, but I'd still be very aware things could still go wrong. I think 8 weeks is quite a bit marker as others have said so would probably wait until then.

What makes me angry about this discussion is the postcode lottery of early scans, my GP said she would definitely refer me for an early scan next time but I know others who've had 2 or more miscarriages and still refused an early scan, it should at least be consistent for everyone So if you want it I would see another GP and fight for it on the NHS, keep going on about the early bleed and how anxious it has made you.

sal I hope you are feeling better. I think perhaps you should give up the DTD and try and focus on getting well for your big day or is that against the TTC rules!?

I think DH and I are going to really struggle to manage it again tonight but I want to try as I got my peak smily yesterday and worried I won't have OV until today. Poor DH looks a bit shell shocked from all the demands on him at the moment!

guff I know what you mean by postcode lottery wrt early scan. Here you can't go to the EPU without a referal. I too had an empty sac at 12 weeks scan and it was very very hard. Especially since I have thought for 2 months it's all doing fine in there. That's why I would also do an early scan, but only if it is free. I just can't afford £99.

But I have also heard stories about seeing a heartbeat in an early scan only to find a mmc at 12 weeks.

There really is no guarantee. And it is still high risk until 14 weeks.

Re early scans, I don't know what I'd do next pregnancy - I had a perfect 8 week scan then MMC at 12 week scan - baby hadn't grown following my early scan (which had let us to tell everyone we were expecting) however my hospital has already said that when I get pregnant again I will be offered scans every fortnight between 6 and 12 weeks so will have to decide when the time comes what I want to do.

Guff me and DH are now on day 4 in a row, trying to keep it up as long as possible (pun not intended ) - keep going!

I think you are all right, early scan or no early scan we are all going to worry throughout the pregnancy so dealing with that is important. I like the idea of doing relaxation stuff.

Katatonic I'm like you - I worry I won't get the chance to worry about being PG What a mad place TTC after MC puts your brain!!!

Im with you Kat. I don't feel like its ever going to happen!
One of my mares foaled this morning. I cried like a baby. Even my animals get to have babies. Its not fair!

Picture here if anyone is interested.

Saggy - adorable!

alyant - no im not a crazy poas lady haha...the only reason I did a pg test was because I was using the clearblue fertility monitor and opks and on day 7 they both brought up two darker than dark lines, which never happens for me untill day 14 earliest. If I had never done any opks/pg tests I wouldn't even know right now. I'd be on cd22 in the tww. Which is mad.

x

guff that's exactly why i want (note the positivity?) an early scan this time around - since I know my body is perfectly capable of growing just an empty sac for 12+ weeks I don't want to give it the chance. Of course I would be aware that just seeing a heartbeat doesn't mean that everything will be OK, but it's a step in the right direction.

I see over, that makes sense. I didn't think that you were crazy, honest

saggy that little foal is SO CUTE. I want one.

next time around, not this time around.
i'm not pg yet - or am I??? was that a freudian slip?? does my body know something i don't????

Awww lovely saggy thanks for sharing

so it looks like I DID ovulate 2 weeks ago as ive just got a positive test am prepared for fish but I just could not wait.
I am in shock.
am I going to be in trouble with gp as I didn't wait for one cycle? its 20 weeks today since I lost my wee one at 17 weeks. ands its 14 weeks since erpc and no af.

Sitting here feeling very scared.

breaking news nearly!! that's fabulous.
If it's been 14 weeks since your ERPC I don't think they can expect you to have waited. In fact I specifically asked at the EPU how long I should wait in AF didn't turn up, since that happened to my sis after her mc (she eventually got pg after 7 months with no AF). They said to wait 4 weeks and then go for it, regardless of AF. So tell your GP to go jump if they grumble.

I'm so bad at remembering everyone's stories - why did you think that you ovulated 2 weeks ago? Was it spotted on a scan?

I noticed a change in cm to egg white type. Thanks to you all I realised what it meant

I have been waking up in the middle of the night for the last two days. This morning it was 3am and it must have taken me ages to fall asleep again. Is this an early pregnancy symptom? I'm only 9dpo. I think I'm going crazy with this symptom spotting

Hi over great news about your levels.

If you really want a scan I'd lurk around the hospitals EPAU and bypass the gp. If there is someone available to scan you then they're usually pretty good. If/when we conceive again ill be saying no to an early scan. After some spotting at 8 weeks had reassurance scan, all ok and v low risk of MC....12 hours later game over and then double whammy of shit as had been so positive. Have a little faith xx

hmm nearly that raises a pertinent question:
I had ewcm for 2 days about 4-5 days before the stupid CB advance digi sticks finally gave me a peak smiley.
what's going on with my body? why are things so confusing?
I hate this shit.

Good to hear some positive news!!

Aly sorry you're feeling shit, I'll join u on the shitwagon today. Wedding on Friday and feel like poo, wishing I hadn't MC and now worrying about being bitter and barren for the rest of my days.

I was horrid to the very helpful sales assistant in Accessorize as well.

aly I always get about 4 days ewcm before a positive opk. Also the 3 times of a BFP we've only managed to dtd at least a day if not more before +ve opk so I think that's as good a time as any to dtd. Fingers crossed.
Thanks everyone for all the congrats. Feel very happy but nervous too.
As my mc was a MMC I like some of you feel a scan might reassure me. My pregnancy stopped developing at 7wks but my body was merrily ticking along oblivious at 12.
I'm going to have one at about 8.5wks - if get that far. Obv it's not a guarantee but hopefully it'll reassure & if the worst happens again I'd find out sooner.
saggy your foal is just gorgeous - so cute!

Ooh & nearly big congratulations to you. Fab news.
over glad levels looking gd but also think a scan might help reassure?

Over I agree that early scans are quite a personal decision based on past experience. I had a private one last time at 9 weeks which showed things had gone wrong at 6 weeks soI was glad I didn't get to 12 wks to find that out. Due to this experience I'm doing the same this time. I know even though things are fine at 9 weeks they can still go wrong but it will definitely help to reassure me to get past that milestone. Plus I've found somewhere that goes them for £50 versus the £99 I paid last time.

Nearly congrats on the bfp! Fab news!