The Elderberry Pavlovas who occasionally sausage wang – a fabulous thread for 30+ ladies TTC #1 (Thread 8)

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Newbies very welcome provided they meet the strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, must have a special pot, NO instadiffers) and bring a bouquet of sausages when they join!

Oh-em-actual-gee bunny, as if people are that thoughtless!

Mind you, girl in question has just changed her status to 'xxxx dreams of date night' SERIOUSLY?? I'm annoyed. I just don't understand how she can be so effing tactless. (I probably shouldn't post all this on here because if she read it she'd know it was her and I'm sure she'll be on MN, but I can't imagine she'd ever venture into a berry thread!)

Even if your doc isn't working, surely you can get your results? I just phone up and the receptionist gives me them (when the hospital hasn't lost them chunter chunter)

So you all know, I feel a lot better for being a rantypants today. Thanks for putting up with me

Hello Berries! I'm rocking up fashionably late to the party, as always!

Kitty, hard to say about your BBT really. How accurately have you been taking your temps? What CD do you usually ovulate on? I've been charting for a while (I have 19 full charts, I think) and of those, 2 or 3 haven't detected ovulation. I have also had 2 where ovulation was quite significantly delayed; I didn't ovulate until CD 22 a couple of months ago when I was a bit stressed with work. I also ovulated late in the month we had Ofsted! Have you been feeling particularly stressed this month? Perhaps you could share your chart so someone could analyse it for you! (Someone like Merk! Haven't seen her on here today - hope you're alright, lovely Merk, wherever you are!)

Peanut, your friend, despite being otherwise lovely, needs a good kick up the arse. What an utterly insensitive thing to say and even more crappy to change her status to what she did. I'd be sorely tempted to write a sarcastic comment on it but no point stooping to the level and all that.

Barking - just because you're in the same boat, thought you might like to know that I had a letter today with my 3 month follow-up appointment; it's going to be early July. I might ring up after my HSG and ask if they have anything sooner as I think I will have got that done by early May! The FC seemed to think I would have it until June!

Nipping in late again. Always after the party .

Peanut I don't think you were being ranty enough, I would have exploded!! I hate all this waiting anyway, but when the results are sitting there, and saying something, but no-one is bothering to do anything about it... grrrrrr......
And your fb friend needs hiding from your news feed. My best friend is an instadiffer with two gorgeous kids and she occasionally says things like that. Another friend (who incidentally has just had part of her womb removed while having what was supposed to be keyhole surgery and nothing to do with her womb - totally different story but imagine waking up from an op to find that out ) had said to my friend how lucky she was to share an interest with her husband - they both like outdoors stuff, running, biking etc. She said it was a nightmare as they fight about who gets to go for a run and who has to look after the kids.
No, that's not a nightmare.

Aha! Boodle! Did we go to different parties, I didn't see you?!

I was told it would be 3 months for my next appointment and they'd send me a letter nearer the time then I would call and book in. That makes it July for me as well. I'm desperately hoping that DP will have had his op and recovered from it by then so we can jump to it as soon as they give me the sweeties in July!!!! Obviously assuming they don't find a nasty problem during the hsg or scan....

I'm sure it'll all be fine. DP's plentiful sperm will soon be swimming through and dancing with the well formed egg that will have floated down my healthy tubes and the sweeties will ensure that there is a comfy and well padded womb ready to check it in... I think I've forgotten a bit of the story...
Sweet dreams!!

Kitty do you usually have a 'normal' cycle length and luteal phase? It wouldn't be unusual for me to ovulate later than cd21 but then I have irregular cycles and a short LP.
Would taking clomid the previous month have an effect on your following cycle? I don't know, although I'm sure I read somewhere that if anything it's supposed to kick start your body into a more regular pattern, even after the course.
So that was a really unhelpful answer. But I did try. Sorry.

You're not quite talking to yourself there, Barking, I'm just about still here but very tired now so sleepy times! Thank goodness it's Friday tomorrow!

Morning all, we're all rather quiet at the mo?

Well I poas and got a bfn so I'm out this month. I have to say I'm not surprised and there is a part of me that is relieved because I'd worry so much if I got pg before my blood levels are sorted out. Fed up of being patient though!!

Sorry bout that Thunder.
I wasn't around last night as was busy drinking wine with friends! However will catch up tonight once I've struggled through today with a hangover

kitty did you get an answer last night? Could you post a link to your chart. BBT is the best way (other than bloods obv) to confirm ovulation and without a temp rise it would seem likely you didn't O... However don't panic as I understand everyone has anovulatory cycles once in a while so it may just be coincidence that it happened this month for you

thunder pants!

AF due Monday and I can feel her on her way already! It's good really as have a big piss up next week and not sure how I'd manage a night out with work not drinking, it would be obvious!!!

Thunderpants...do I feel a NC coming up...?!

Bugger about af bunny but good about a good piss up this weekend. Hope the hangover's not too bad merk

morning berries!!
thunder and bunny thats rubbish. enjoy the dinks though bunny!!
Barking - maybe you can help with this - according to OPKs i did not OV till day 21-22, yesterday was the first day i would usually get AF from (cal be a bit irregular). Looking at calenders I may not even have implanted yet (if I had been lucky) so am I right in thinking there is no point in POAS? at least not for a few days/week, provinding AF stays the f* away?

Morning all, especially thunderpants heheh!

Thanks for all the outrage on my behalf ladies. Actually going for coffee with the FB offender this morning, so have decided to tell her (nicely) just how hurtful she can be. Wish me luck!

Sorry about imminent af thunder and bunny

Hope you survive the hangover merk!

trying Yes, that's as I understand it. That's how I managed to explain away all my bfn's and convince myself I was pg, as I would poas when I thought AF was due but get a bfn, but obviously with my short LP I was only testing at 7dpo, so potentially a whole week before AF would be due in a more textbook cycle. AF followed each time . Having said all that with my more sensible hat on, I did get loads of pg symptoms cycle before last and convinced myself (again) it had definitely happened so pimped with a double dye (merk's trick of taking the dye from one test and adding it to the other) but clear as day, obviously.... I was a whole 8dpo at the time, which apparently some people can get a line at, but it depends how long it takes the egg to make its way to the womb etc.

peanut definitely say something, if she's a lovely person she probably doesn't realise she could be upsetting other people as well. Even the same message with (but I'm so lucky to have my kids) would take the sting out.
Having said that, there are women out there who genuinely regret having their children. I know one .

Morning berries!

have to read & run but wanted to wish you all a good Friday & a happy weekend - heading out of town for a break, and to hopefully conceive a child. Viva la shag week, go big or go home, etc etc.

Am chanting the conception meditation in my head and trying to think insanely positively bc I am so very tired of the TTC anxiety I put myself through. I know you guys can relate and it's the only thing saving me from really looking like a nutcase to people in RL!!
(or from glaring at all the pg ladies in Kingston for that matter)

barking she adores her children, she'd have fifty if her husband would let her. I think she just doesn't engage brain. She's a good friend otherwise so will gently try and prod her in the direction of being a bit more thoughtful! Can't imagine how painful it must be to see someone with kids who doesn't even want them and those poor children.

sid enjoy the bonk-break! Make one for us!

Right, off to see if acu lady can stimulate some eggy activity for me next week. I know I'm setting myself up for a fall by getting so ridiculously hopeful that this is the magic cure...but all the 'thank-you' cards with pictures of babies on her wall makes me think maybe she really does help!

You have the opposite weekend to me sid I'm sharing my campervan with my mate and her two kids - we're taking a trip to the seaside!! But on AF here, so not missing out on potential action with DP anyway!

Up the positive thinking!!

LOL @ thunderpants just re-read that, hilarious!

Oooh peanut will be interesting what your friend says, I have also had some insenstive comments and I bet my friend would be mortified if she knew how upset I was!

Happy shag weekend away Sid got one of those coming up for myself and Mr Bunny in 2 weeks

Happy weekend peeps - anybody up to much?

I'm off to a christening. Nice.
It's ok really- I will smile and attempt to look smart, while thinking that my baby will be waaay better than theirs say the right things and then run off to the pub to get ridiculous with a large bottle gin.

barking the campervan weekend sounds great!

Def a NC thunder!

I told the first person in RL that I was TTC & struggling the other night but I did feel a bit bad about it as she is 40 this year, not in a relationship & thinks her hormones are out of balance anyway so has pretty much given up on the children thing. She did say she knew lots of people who had conceived using IVF though. Even she was a bit too much "relax it will happen" though! Keep us posted on your friend Peanut.

Green days (aka shag week) officially started yesterday but I have warned DP that it could go on for 2 weeks. We have got a night away next Friday in a hotel so might just catch that perhaps even if it's not a whole weekend like Sid I was just too tired last night though to pelvic tilt & cushion-bum it though . not too worried anyway given O probably not for ages yet.

In other good news he didn't totally freak out from me e-mailing him the alcohol extract from the NICE guidelines along with a footnote as to the number of units in a bottle of white wine! He's started the Raspberry Ketone diet so hopefully that will inspire him to be a bit more healthy anyway. He ate Weetabix for breakfast for the first time since I've known him today!!

Well, had my coffee/stern word with friend although mine wasn't coffee, it was herbal tea in case I overcaffeined my eggs. Tried to be nice about it, got talking about the acupuncture/ttc and then I said I'd been upset by a few things on FB recently, and she said, 'oh, what?' so I said that it was actually some of what she said (I did throw in that pregnancy April Fool that someone else did just to make it seem it wasn't just her). Think she was going to get on the defensive but then just said sorry, hadn't thought about it that way and that she'd try and be more thoughtful. So I guess that's a win for me then. Just as well because I'm being her latest son's godmother in June..!

Frog hurrah to getting through to Mr Frog on the drinking front!

Bah Thunder hope you get through the christening ok. Thundersprogs would of course be far better in every way.

Barking have fun at the seaside!

Well done peanut. That sounds like it was harder in your head than IRL, thank goodness. I often think about saying something to my friends but as almost all of them live in their differs happy land I think it would be such a difficult conversation I end up not having it.

Tally it definitely was, I know she can get really funny about criticism so was dreading it but she took it ok. Phew! I wasn't going to say anything originally but I'm glad you guys persuaded me, hopefully she'll think before she types next time

Also had a brilliant session with the my acu lady today. She's convinced she can get things going again, with or without the stupid doctors prescribing clomid. I suppose I just like how positive she is - trying not to put all my eggs in one basket (HA! Eggs. Made a funny) but she just fills me with hope. Plus she isn't totally happy-clappy, she's very down to earth which makes me trust her opinion more I think. She's tried to stimulate ovulation today so ideally should be ov'ing in a week's time. Also suggested Preseed as I can't say for definite that I've ever had EWCM, so shall be trotting off and getting that.

Also, she suggests that it's better if I ahem have my fun AFTER Mr Nut when dtd, if you grasp my meaning, because the big O helps the cervix lower and dilate and spasm to help swimmers through. HMM. This could be tricky in practice, I get very annoyed if he goes first because then it's all over and done with and I get nowt (to which her suggest was a bit of post-coital DIY!!) Anyone else heard of this? Am I the only one doing it WRONG?!