The Elderberry Pavlovas who occasionally sausage wang – a fabulous thread for 30+ ladies TTC #1 (Thread 8)

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Newbies very welcome provided they meet the strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, must have a special pot, NO instadiffers) and bring a bouquet of sausages when they join!

See I'm not the only one expecting AF this thurs/friday! have had not PMT or sore boobs this month, but didn't last month either. sooo frustrating not being bale to rely on your own body to tell you what is going on. Sorry you having such a rough time merk, hugs x
thanks bunny for the list i am not anymore.
and barking totaly feel your pain - things have lessened lately, but 13 freinds/family have had babies in last 10 months. not easy x x

cats sounds like your teacher isn't quite grasping your subtle approach so maybe the direct approach would work better.

barking the fertility clinic pay people who are just making a 'altruistic' egg donation. I did some research and the place has had some good comments on mumsnet. Sorry to hear you were so upset at work about your pg colleague and well done for holding it together so well.

merkin How frustrating you are having to deal with this confusion yet again. I definitely think you need to push to get some tests done and try and get to the bottom of it. I'm not sure what tests you need to push for but hopefully some of the others will be able to help. It sounds like you have no problem with the sperm meets egg bit so maybe that could narrow down what tests you should be having done?

smoothas I always get twinges/cramps between ovulation and af. Not every day though. I tend to get an increase in cramps a few days before af is due which is a sure sign that she is on her way. I can't remember whether I did the month I got pg (which was a mc) though and I really wish that I did so I would know whether to get my hopes up or not.

I've very excited about the acupuncture thing. I'm not naively thinking it's going to suddenly make me pregnant but if it can help calm me and my anxiety ridden brain a bit then it has got to be worth it.

Oh bloody hell. I was feeling a bit fragile so I thought I'd just go upstairs and sew, so I put the computer on to watch iplayer. I thought I'd avoid obem type shows and went for a history one. ffs. stupid idea. It's all about how kings and queens are ill and talking about a queen who had 17 pregs, 12 of the miscarriages and none of the rest lived past 12 years old. GAAAAAAH

Sorry, I'm not really in suppportive mode tonight. But you are all great, fingers crossed or hugs for everyone. xxx

Oooh, hugs back to you tally hope you have a less pants day tomorrow x x

Right there with you Tallyra. I'm watching NCIS. It's about bloody marines and terrorism and murders. So I wasn't expecting a pregnant marine giving birth on Christmas Eve with Gibbs helping at the birth. Wtf?!?!
Am I not safe anywhere doing anything?!?!

Sorry cats, didn't reply to your earlier post. Your teacher sounds like a complete waste of space (can you tell I'm not in sympathetic mood tonight?!)
I'd go straight to the deputy and put your concerns to her. You've tried. He's not listened. He obviously has no idea how utterly incompetent he is and it's not fair on you, the kids, or the teachers that have to plug the gaps and pick up the pieces after him. Management may not do anything helpful, but you'll have done your bit and it's their problem then.

And get that application form in, you know you could do better than that!

Hello ladies. Just catching up on the last couple of days. Sorry to hear its not looking good Merk

I did the couch to 5k programme about a year ago and can now run 5k with, not ease, but without too much stress. I used the iPhone app.

New low today, jealous of seaweed! There was a program about rock pools and they showed the seaweed eggs being released into the sea and then meeting seaweed sperm.

thundercats re exercise, its actually its easier in the morning than after work. When I?ve finished work, all I can think of is food!

Re FODMAP, we?re taught to advise to still have a reasonably balanced diet but excluding the ?riskier? foods. Can go through it properly at some point if you like. Should say its not my speciality (afraid that?s tube feeding so guessing that?s not of as much interest lol).

Re the dreaded 2ww, I always get anxious (and negative towards the end). Wish I had some words of wisdom but I?ll be just as bad in a fortnight!

yorkie I ALWAYS wear them under my gym pants. I?m 33 ffs, not 18 haha.

Re free IVF, they do that at the Priory in Brum, I just assumed they wouldn?t want me eggs lol

merkin sending positive thoughts. Please god let there be a proper line tomorrow

barking the berries would only let you off if you slashed her tyres as well?

bombastic please check which tests they were!

Hmm. Been googling. How about we try chanting this and thinking positively.

Apparently this idea is taken from 'hypnofertility'

First relax in a quiet place and take a few deep breaths. On each exhale, breath out all the tension in your body. When relaxed you work through the following visualisation:

It is easy for me to get pregnant. I will fall pregnant at my next ovulation. My plentiful fertile cervical fluid directs healthy sperm to swim freely through my cervix. Once they have swum through they easily find my fallopian tubes and make their way through, eagerly awaiting the arival of my egg.

My oestrogen levels soar and I easily release a perfect and healthy egg. This is swept up into my fallopian tube where it is greeted by lots of healthy sperm. A single, perfect and healthy sperm penetrates the egg and successfuly fertilises it (see sparks flying and fireworks going off!).

The fertilised egg makes its way freely down the falopian tube to the uterus. It reaches the uterus and nestles itself cosily into the thick lining of the uterine wall. Here, it attaches itself and my body starts producing the pregnancy hormone HCG.

The placenta develops and takes over providing nourishment for my baby. As the baby grows inside me, my tummy grows and I have a happy and healthy pregnancy. I go on to have a safe and stressfree home waterbirth and finally hold my perfect and healthy baby in my arms

Part of me wants to with derision and roll around laughing, the other half thinks 'well, it can't hurt?!' Oh dear, into desperate measures here. I think I'm just giddy with reeling from the big bumps and overly happy pregnant women and stupid wonderful mummy car stickers and trying not to get worked up in advance about the fertility clinic appointment which is tomorrow!!!

Anyway, bedtime for me. I need to sleep. Or at least calm down. Someone slap me with a sausage quick!!

Ha ha barking that is v funny!

Good luck at the fc tomorrow!

barking that's pants

merkin booooo to no line today!

Omgtrying I cannot believe you know that many people who've had babies so recently, that's so mean!!!

Oh no barking is that a new NCiS, I have some taped but not sure I wanna watch that one! LOL at chanting and good luck for tomorrow!

Oh pip that is bad, might even beat being jealous of the moon and sheep!

Had my own grrrrrr moment today, my sits told me her uni friend is pg, due sept, did my usual it's not fair, she's not married, she's only 29, blah blah blah

Pah! That should read my sister!

barking, that has killed me! The bit about "My plentiful fertile cervical fluid directs healthy sperm to swim freely through my cervix" may also have slightly ruined dtd later as I will be snorting with laughter. Partner may not appreciate this .

I'm so sorry merkin, you poor thing. Which tests will you get done?

Hugs to tallyra, bunny, trying and pipbin (although don't be jealous of seaweed, because it is grim and smells and my brothers used to throw it at me for fun).

Another ultrasound today to see how my follicles are doing. I don't usually OV until CD13 at the earliest (which is tomorrow), but hopefully they will still be able to see something useful. Yesterday's HSG was fine, and everything there is pretty standard apparently (although she said my uterus is quite high up, which I have chosen to interpret as her saying I have a bucket for a fanny)

Morning all. Well I flushed the fmu and packed a bratwurst into my handbag just in case I have another 'moment' today.

barking that is hilarious. It's the plentiful fertile cervical fluid bit for me too. Good luck today -and to book too.

Bloody sister's uni friends and seaweed. Grrrr

Morning berries!

Good luck today barking and book.

Barking much though I wish to pour sceptical scorn on the happy clappy cervical mucus visualisations, I have to admit to owning a fertility visualisation CD. I haven't actually listened yet because a) I'd giggle b) it has a whale-music-type background track and c) I'm not quite ready for tie-dye and birkenstocks yet. But then again...can't do any harm

Pip Bwahahaha. Damn that fertile seaweed. Rude.

Have you decided what tests to get done merk?

Thunder hope it's a BIG bratwurst

peanut, I must get a copy of that CD! Whale music makes me giggle like nothing else (even though I'm a total hippie).

Well, appointments all done for this month. Scan lady seemed pleased with it all but I'm not convinced there isn't a slight problem. Dominant follicle is only 16mm on CD12 and I usually OV CD13-15 so that sounds quite small. Also, I had a sneaky look at my notes from Monday's scan and my lining was only 7mm on CD10 which sounds like the low side of okay. Guess I just have to opk and hope I catch OV on whatever day it decides to happen. Won't know what happens next until my appointment at fc in mid-May though, so this cycle is a bit of a lost cause I fear.

Oh, and best friend from school is diffed. Again. We're only fb friends these days, but I'm still .

BAH book, stupid updiffed schoolmates. Mine are all at it, stupid fertile classmates.

From what I know about follicles, the LH surge is only released when they reach a certain size - so it'll keep growing until it's big enough to produce enough oestrogen to trigger the LH surge. Maybe it's just the fact that there's a dominant follicle that's good, it'll have to get to the right size for you to ovulate?

Cheers peanut :) I don't even know what I'm googling for - I don't understand any of it! The fc said that they might try me on a couple of cycles of Clomid just for the sake of it, so maybe that will help as well. I think there's something about taking baby aspirin for linings as well, so I might do a bit of reading up. Or, I might stuff all that and have a sandwich and a nap...

Had my first fc appointment. Really glad I had all the berry knowledge to prepare me as it was exactly as expected (rather than miraculous as originally naively hoped). I've got to wait until the next cd1(why did I have to come on early, cd3 today!!) and call to book an HSG and then I'll have the dildoscan just before we see the doctor next time so I don't have to make an extra journey. 3 months until the next appointment but then we'll get clomid to hopefully regulate my cycle and sort out my LP phase, and they'll do another cd21 blood test and see if I have managed to O earlier.

So, now in the predicted 3 month wait with an HSG to look forward to in the meantime.

DP asked about alcohol and she basically said he was fine. He did say he had 2 or 3 pints twice a week though, unless it was a special occasion. I wouldn't say this was a strictly accurate account of his drinking but it's not like he drinks every night. She told me the occasional glass of wine is not going to make any difference to me either .

Married been ttc for 2-3yrs, ectopic aug 12 tube removed, hsg dec 12 other tube buggered...start ivf at Oxford this weekend... Nervous to say the least!

Hi vicky sounds like you've had a nightmare but how exciting to be starting IVF this wkd!! . Fingers, toes and everything crossed for you .

Bunny forgot to say before, it was the new series of NCIS, the most recent episode. DP and I have always been fans but this series I swear they've brought in a new script writer as instead of the gritty storylines we seem to be getting distasteful amounts of American cheese. A female marine giving birth while Ziva defends their position and Silent Night plays in the background being a perfect example of this!!! Bring back the grit!!

welcome Vicky, sounds like you had a very horrible time, but yay for ivf!

barking, I'm sure I saw that one a while ago and was also pretty disgusted with the writers. series 9 maybe?

I just got a phone call (well a few hours ago, but I'm in bed with a migraine so feels like only just) with an appt for the fc. its on 11th June. June!! So we have to not TTC til then! I think I'm going to go mad, we can't do that. I almost want to get my coil put back in for that long!

barking glad your appointment went well. Ref NCiS I think this series has lost its way, it's starting to bore me a little, and I used to love it!!!

tally yay to the appointment!

The girl who waxes my legs, who I have been chatting with as she is also TTC had an op last week to flush out her tubes coz of her PCOS so today when I saw her I wanted to see how it went. Feel so bad for her, basically they said her tubes are fecked! They may even have to remove them, just awful! At least she is going straight for IVF now, I just hope it works for her!

Hey barking well at least you were prepared for the crushing disappointment wait. It still sucks though. Looks like we're all just waiting for the sweeties to be doled out!

Tally pants. That's a long time to not be allowed to play the game. At least you're spared the am I/aren't I rollercoaster but I'm sure that's scant comfort . Can you phone up the clinic and ask if you can have a cancellation if one comes up?

Hi Vicky, sorry to hear you've had such a horrible time, but IVF! Hooray! Hope your first cycle is the one for you x

In other news, today I've been offered an interview for a job I really want when I graduate. Suddenly convinced I know nothing and will look foolish under pressure (normally I'm a smug know-it-all). Have to do a 10 minute presentation and it's a 6 hour group session under observation: EEEK. Also, I know at least a couple of other girls in my cohort have applied as well, so I'm up against them as well as actively trying to sabotage my chances by potentially getting knocked up before I even start . Think I might have a sit down on the pity sofa and some nice calming since only CD7 today so no chance of pickling Peanut Junior. Barking says it's ok so it must be