Excellent (or should that be eggcellent?) egg buddies! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in April/May/June 2013 come and join us!

[EuroShaggleton]

We've almost filled the second thread so here is a new one, so we can carry on chatting! Threads #1 and #2 saw some stunning successes and some sad outcomes. We'll have more of the former and less of the latter on thread #3 please!

All comers welcome. I found it very useful to be with people going through the same thing when I did my first cycle, so if you would like to join us, please come on in!

[ScarlettInSpace]

Hehe as well as the 18 vits & mins in sanatagen folic acid + omega 3 tablets I'm taking Q10, vit D + calcium, vit C, maca, bee pollen + royal jelly AND the DHEA... My skin's never been so good! I will end up one of those childless old ladies with beautiful skin

[twinklestar2]

Thx peeps but I really don't think I'll get the miracle BFP before IVF. You know those stories where someone was trying for ages and then they got a new job/was just about to get referred to the fertility clinic/gave up trying etc? Well they dont happen to me, in fact I got AF the day I started a new job (after hanging on to the old one for waaay too long thinking of the mat pay) and the day I had my first appointment at the fertility clinic, AF arrives about an hour before. It's like reverse irony.

[putthecrispsDOWN]

Hi all...quick update from me until I have time to do a proper one later...am cooked!! Had trigger shot last night, EC tomorrow morning. Feeling very achy today so hopefully that means I have lots of eggs maturing nicely! Plus get the weekend free to sort out DDs birthday so for once it seems to have worked out nicely; ET will be Monday to Wednesday depending on what happens over the weekend. Over the moon to be here at last!

scarlett fwiw...I would wait. I rushed into a cycle last year feeling that I needed to get on with it but wasn't ready...it didn't work and it was a hard slog all the way through and I struggled more with it than any other cycle psychologically. Don'tu underestimate the importance of a positive mindset through this all, it is so important to get you through the long process.

[twinklestar2]

Good luck crisps! Have a lovely weekend for your little girls birthday, I heard its going to be sunny on Sunday :)

[EuroShaggleton]

Crisps I'm glad everything worked out timing wise! Good luck for EC!

Twink I can't wait for a bit of sunshine. I am so over this miserableness.

[keepitgoing]

Yay crisps well done you. It's a sign, I tell you, a SIGN that all the timing's worked out well. Good luck.

[putthecrispsDOWN]

Ah thanks you lovely lot. Am feeling positive at least so that must be good!! scarlett not that you seem to need any more tablets but I swear by ginseng and gingko biloba for energy (I'm also a supplement junkie)

Did anyone else hear that the founder of IVF died today? Very sad...but the article also said that in the past 30ish years over 5 million ivf babies had been born, so there's hope for us surely!

Good vibes gratefully received and reciprocated. When I was trying for my daughter years ago there was a group of about six of us who were all friends and all having trouble conceiving...everyone in that group has kids now...in fact everyone else has two! Hopefully this group will be the same and we'll all end up on a special episode of 16 kids and counting in a few years

[Nokkie73]

Hello y'all

How are we all this evening ? I had my follow-up and the consultant said that he was pleased with my response considering my shitty AMH. He has booked me in for a hysteroscopy to see if there is any scarring or gunk on my uterus from my D&C after MC, just to rule out any problems with my uterus. I am still a bit emotionally up and down but I don't like feeling too down for too long as it feels so counter-productive.

Anyway, I'm shoving supplements into my fat gob like some sort of druggie. Mr Noks watched me taking them this morning and said that I should have been a member of the Happy Mondays as Shaun Ryder would have been proud of the way I was popping them. Hmmmmm, I can tell you that coq10, raspberry leaf tea, red clover, maca, l'arginine, royal jelly and everything else does not give you the same buzz as Class A's (apparently ) but if it will help, I'll take it.

crisps good luck ! Here, have some good vibes !

scarlett if I were you, I'd give your self a break. I couldn't face doing another round right now but hope to go again around July time. Mentally, this is bloody tough.

choco hugs.

keeps twinkle euro HOLA !

Sorry for the lack of other name checks and detailed personals. I can only see this page !

Noks x

[EuroShaggleton]

How was EC crisps?

Noks do you have a date for the hysteo?

[putthecrispsDOWN]

Thanks for the good vibes folks, EC went well, 7eggs which is amazing considering my AMH and the state of my ovaries... This is also twice what we managed to get last time. Of course they won't all be mature/fertilise and so on, but we're really happy with that as a starting point!...in fact they said 8 is bang in average so I've done really well considering.

Will find out tomorrow about whether we're doing a 3day or 5day transfer depending upon numbers, but feeling positive at this point. Chuffed to bits as there was always a chance we'd get absolutely nowt by this point!
Off to bed now as feeling more sore and tired than usual, will update tomorrow.

noks it sounds like you have a plan of attack now which is always good, I hope it will be reassuring to get everything checked out for peace of mind. If its any help I have loads of scarring from four operations on my ovaries and surrounding area and things still seem to have worked out for us so far touches wood ...plus July is a nice time to start, I always think its easier to chill and feel positive when the sun is shining.

[putthecrispsDOWN]

*bang on average, not banging of course!

[EuroShaggleton]

7 is brilliant! Nice laying! Have a good rest.

[Nokkie73]

crisps well bloody done ! That sounds brilliant. You must be thrilled. I'll be keeping everything crossed for you tomorrow. Thanks for your advice re scarring too. I think it's best to have it checked out to eliminate any issues there if nothing else.

euro 7th May for fanjo action.

[MotorcycleMama]

Morning all. Would you mind if I join you? I am 41 and have been TTC for 2 years. Am in the very early stages of signing up for DEIVF. I've got an appt with my GP on Monday to see if they will do the preliminary blood work, and a SIS and appt with the nurse on Weds. With Herts and Essex BTW. I would really appreciate some support while I find my way through this stressful maze!

[Nokkie73]

motor welcome ! Care to share your history ? We're all at different stages here. I've been ttc for four and a half years, MC six months in, no luck since, failed IVF at the end of March 2013. How are you feeling ? X

[EuroShaggleton]

Welcome Motor. It's always nice to have a new joiner.

I've been ttc for 2.5 years. Tried various forms of assisted conception (including a disasterous encounter with downregging drugs that really didn't like me) before finding natural IVF, which worked first time but ended in mc a month ago. I'm planning to go again next month.

crisps have you heard whether the eggs and swimmers got it on yet? :)

[MotorcycleMama]

Hi nokkie and euro. Please forgive my naivety in chatroom etiquette and short-hand - I'll work it out as I go.
I had a natural, and totally unplanned pregnancy which ended in miscarriage at 12 weeks 5 years ago. I didn't even know I was pregnant until I was 6 weeks gone. Even though the circumstances were wrong in that I was not in a steady relationship, I was totally devastated and took two years to recover emotionally.
Now have very good husband, and we started TTC 2 years ago when we got married. After 1 year, GP finally referred us to local hospital for tests. I have low AMH, high FSH, one blocked Fallopian tube and am 41. They put my chances of conceiving naturally as about 5%, and 15% with IVF. They have said that my chances with DE are much higher, so we decided to go for that at Herts and Essex.
I have had implications counselling (no probs), and due to have a SIS and appt with the nurse to get me on the waiting list for DE on Wednesday.
I'm up and down emotionally. I daren't get too optimistic that it will work, as I fear disappointment. At the same time, I want a baby more than anything else in the world.
I'm sorry to hear about your recent failed IVF nokkie - but don't give up hope. What is your next plan of action?
Sorry euro about your recent miscarriage - and pleased that you are giving it another go. What is natural IVF by the way?

[CuckooBird]

Hello everyone. I have been inspired to join after reading Motorcycle's posts; they are almost identical to my experience: I have a blocked fallopian tube and have been trying to get me a baby for the past year. I am going straight to DE IVF in June at the ReproGenesis clinic in Brno, Czech Republic. I haven't attempted any other forms of assisted conception because, quite frankly, I consider it a complete waste of time and money at my age (almost 42). To have two guaranteed 5-day blastos transferred from a young 'un with proven fertility, PICSI and a 62% success rate for my age I reckon I'd be bonkers to try anything else.

I struggled for about 35 minutes with the notion of raising a child that isn't biologically mine before realising I am desperate to be a mother, not to continue my dodgy family bloodline. I also like the idea of not passing any of my depressive, anxious or cuckoo traits to my little 'un. My mother (whom I adore and is religious) told me the other day that she would not be able to love a child that was not 'mine'. I told her that was tough titties. I don't see that I really have a choice in the matter (UK clinics have given me an 11% success rate with my own eggs. Fuck that). There's no room for being precious about genes at my age so it's full steam ahead. I start the drugs at the beginning of May and I will be frank: if this doesn't work I will kill myself (or the husband; he has failed to give up smoking. Donor sperm is only 500 euros so I may go for the double whammy yet)

I have just finished reading the entire last thread and I would like to say I was nearly in fucking tears reading about euro's, nokkie's and chocolocco's sad outcomes. Scarlett, too, your sadness was difficult to read. I am sorry if I have missed anyone out. Am I okay to join 'cos I think I'll go frigging nuts with no-one else to talk to about the coming weeks (I blabbed the whole story to the dentist's assistant on Thursday. She was only about twelve).

[CuckooBird]

Oooh, I forgot to say that, in addition to the price of DE IVF at Brno (4500 euros), we shall be paying an extra 600 euros for embryo monitoring. DH's sperm will also be tested for it's binding qualities and then injected into the eggs (PICSI). If we decide to go for donor sperm we are guaranteed frosties! A FET cycle is only 600 euros!

[MotorcycleMama]

Hi cuckoo. I felt similarly about straight-forward IVF given the low chances they gave me, but I do understand people wanting to try using their own eggs first. TBH I thought that I would just give up on the idea of having a family if I couldn't succeed naturally, and hadn't even considered DE until a gynaecologist told me I would have a 30% chance. That seemed like reasonable odds given the emotional and financial cost. The consultant at the fertility clinic talked about 60 % chance, but much as I would like to believe that is true, I find it hard to believe. Can you say why you are going to the Czech Republic?

[CuckooBird]

Hi, motorcycle mama. I've done very little research of any other clinics than ReproGenesis. I am on the 'ReproGenesis Cycle Buddies' forum on Fertility Friends and the feedback is enormously reassuring. Helena at the clinic is wonderfully succinct and kindly in her emails and no question is too foolish. Her rapid responses are gratifying, too. ReproG is in its infancy but very high success rates (they insist on ICSI). The cost is a huge factor; this is our one chance of a baby and we are guaranteed two five-day blastos. FET cycles at 600 euros are also an attractive prospect.

I have such a good feeling about this, mama. I know what a gamble IVF is; I know the heartache and crushing disappointment that awaits us if this fails, but I feel very reassured that I will be carrying a young, healthy wench's beautiful eggs (and I've been told my uterus and lining is fab). I had a miscarriage last year so I know implantation isn't an issue, I simply have to swallow my pride and any feelings of preciousness about my genes and bite the bullet with DE.

Mama, what makes you think 60% is an unrealistic statistic with donor eggs?

[buzzybee123]

afternoon ladies, I have been stupidly busy in fact so busy that I forgot to see my osteo this morning my mind seems to be everywhere except where it should be

crisps great laying :)

motor and cuckoo welcome, its nice to have a couple of DE IVFers on here.

I am 40 been trying for 2 years, 2 miscarriages, high nk cells very low AMH of 1.1. I too decided that there was not much point in trying with my own over boiled eggs so I am having DE IVF at Reprofit in Brno at the beginning of May.

cuckoo have you been on FF DE IVF threads, they are quite good for info. Its a pity we won't be in Brno at the same time :) i'm a bit and that you mother could say such a thing. My MIL has said she doesn't care where her grandchildren come from, but in a nice way, she knows we are considering adoption,

motor I just looked up overseas clinics and then chose mine as the price was good, they are great at communicating with me, answer all my questions and very quickly. It seems to have good results and most importantly I felt comfortable with them. It is a great help that there are forums where you can chat to women who have been and who can give advice and information too. I looked at some others but they either didn't have much information available or never got back in touch with me.

well better get back top my endless list of DIY :) waves to anyone I have missed

[EuroShaggleton]

Hi cuckoo. There is a poster here called buzzy who is about to start DEIVF at the same place.

Natural IVF=IVF without the vast majority of the drugs - no downregging, no stimming, just a trigger shot and progesterone support. It works with the one egg you produce yourself, so it's cheaper per cycle (no drugs to buy) but if that one egg is a dud, that's it for that cycle. I was stunned that we got a BFP first time. The current plan is two more natural cycles and then maybe one with mild stimulation if they don't work.

[EuroShaggleton]

X-posts. And my mistake - same city, different clinic!

[buzzybee123]

euro very similar names