Excellent (or should that be eggcellent?) egg buddies! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in April/May/June 2013 come and join us!

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We've almost filled the second thread so here is a new one, so we can carry on chatting! Threads #1 and #2 saw some stunning successes and some sad outcomes. We'll have more of the former and less of the latter on thread #3 please!

All comers welcome. I found it very useful to be with people going through the same thing when I did my first cycle, so if you would like to join us, please come on in!

Agreed - that coat was HIDEOUS.

Welcome tam!

We have icsi because on our first round we had failed fertilisation for me AND the lady I shared eggs to. Then with icsi on the 2nd round, we got 100% fertilisation but slow growing embies- only transferred an 8 cell and a 9 cell on day 5 . We are with a good clinic this time though and they think its a numbers game and to just go for it with all my own eggs. We will see....

Dhea is from biovea. I got a list of supplements from fertility friends and inositol is supposed to be good for egg quality. Have had a good 3 months on everything now. Hope it makes a difference.

Oh and chromium is to help control sugar levels in blood.

hi im due to start my first round of ivf ,i start down reg injections in 3 weeks im really worried as i have pcos and the risk of ohss,i start metformin today

Just a quick update .... We've had our first appointment with the ARGC.

It felt like IVF bootcamp! Not for the faint hearted! we've been given
very honest odds of 1:4 Our Doctor explained the process in detail. We do feel that this is the right clinic for us. Its our final throw of the dice! :~

Unfortunately after our appointment we were informed that the satellite clinic in Oxford (which is advertised as being available for the 12 day monitoring stage) is only open 3 days per week (therefore cannot be used for the daily/twice daily monitoring stage - unless you alternate but that doesn't work when you have to travel a long way to the clinic). This was very very disappointing. We had organised accommodation/dog sitter in Oxford. London is not so easy for us. :(

Has anyone had the full immunes at ARGC ? £800

We are not sure whether to proceed with this however given that this is our last attempt 'gulp' (i am 41 and DH is 54) we are sorely temped to try everything ... 'gulp' !

chummy 1 in 4's not bad; ivf is usually 1 in 3 for everyone. I'd say they're pretty good odds! But, it sounds like location's an issue. Wish i lived in london, i'd offer you a room.. What's the point of their satellite clinic...? Good luck in thinking it through x

nokkie I know she is pregnant but someone should have said something about that coat before she went out in public
I was looking into IVF overseas and sent them my info to see what they thought, I hadn't had my AMH done at this stage and they suggested DE, which was a complete shock as I thought I was reasonable ok and then when I had my fertility MOT and my AMH I decided to go with DE as I felt it was my best chance and we only have one shot at it. So the short answer is no I wasn't pressured into it.

tams that is where I go my DHEA from, you learn something everyday as I didn't know about Chromium shall order online after this

mejust Welcome to the group, sorry I have no advice on PCOS but aslong as they keep monitoring you through the cycle, is this NHS or private??

chummy I agree they are pretty good odds although we would all like 100% odds, I have heard that ARGC are quite intense, its difficult for thos who do not live in London, could you not have some of you scans done at a place near you and then have the info sent to them for them to advise you?? Just to save you having to travel so much, I would think that if this is your last shot then throw everything at it, you don't want to look back and think, what if I had done the immunes, would that have made a difference, well that is what I would think

Hi everyone...haven't posted for past few days as trying not to obsess during my 2ww fat chance

noks buzzy tametortie (do you prefer tame or tortie or something else?!) my AMH is 4.5 ...I disn't do DHEA but wish I'd known about it in advance.

chummy they sound like good odds to me, plus remember as you get over every hurdle they will increase. I find the monitoring period the most difficult because of the travelling though, and I only travel 40mins. I'm sure yu've already looked into alternatives but if you're not happy with the distance I'd reconsider?

mejust...no experience with pcos I'm afraid but welcome!

Have been doing ok since ET...a few AF type pains on and off but nothing significant. Have had the odd scratching/pinching pain but this happens very rarely and could well be all in my head! Mostly have just been feeling sick as a dog but from past experience I'm putting this down to the progesterone. Was really sick this morning just like when I was pregnant with Dd but this was probably due to having a huge job interview today. Having had the experience already (due to god and babydust and sheer bloody good luck) I know I didn't really gt any major symptoms until 7-8 weeks, and that was for a twin pregnancy. Just trying to wait and putti out of my mind, and pretend that I'm all measured and calm and rational despite acting like a stroppy teenager most of the time, poor lovely DH

K-Middy's coat...ugh. The colour, the shape, just ugh. Although she is allowed on the basis of being lovely and managing to get herself up duffed which seems like an impossibility for me at the moment!

Tame, tam, tortie, TT- I dont mind

chummy I feel your pain. We travel to our clinic- its around 28 miles but on the M1 so a bloody nightmare. if they chucked a monitoring cycle in as well I think I'd think again!! BUT they are very good odds you have been quoted.

I liked Kate Middletons coat! Mind you, I am sat here in a pair of slacks, a twinset and pearls

crisps you sound really on edge- I cant imagine what a true 2ww must feel like. Both my cycles were shocking so never really had a 'proper' 2ww. What did your clinic say about your AMH? Mine werent fussed at all I'm at Nurture in Nottingham. I went for a pre treatment scan at the start and my AFC was 22 so they said the AMH and AFC don't match. So as a compromise I am being given 300iu of menopur at the start of stims with a plan to drop that quickly if its not needed.

We have considered DE (or I have!!) because of such poor fertilisation/development before. I must say if I did go with DE, I'd go abroad. Possibly to serum in Greece? Or Reprofit? Have looked at those as a possibility if this doesn't work. We did have a consultation at a clinic in Norway over a year ago and they were fab. But then my mum was ill so travelling was not an option at the time.

Not sure I have mentioned it in any posts before but I have a DD already- conceived dead easily (2 months off pill) from a previous relationship. A decade ago today was my due date and she is beautiful. And apparently a total miracle . I really should have mentioned that....seems as though I forgot about her Its her birthday this Friday. I cant wait!!

nokkie what supplemnts do you take? I am a supplement geek!!

mejust hello I'm new too x

tame I am going to Reprofit in May so I can let you know what it is like but hopefully you won't need to :-)

I very much admire the fact that you put yourself up for a job interview, not just in the middle of IVF, but in the 2ww crisps. You deserve success on both fronts just for sheer guts and determination! When I realised that fertility treatment was a possibility, I downgraded my significantly stressful management job to a much lower key affair. The new job is much less stressful (thus giving me the leaway to be totally stressed with the treatment without becoming ill) but is so much more boring! Oh well, you can't have it all.
Welcome tortie. Nice to have you on board. Can I ask why you would go abroad for DE rather than stay in the UK? Just curious. I was not keen at all on the idea of going abroad.
Hi to everyone else!

Yes, let me know. I think with de, abroad is the way to go for me. Fingers crossed my own eggs aren't totally shot though- im only 32

That fecking fairy spell better work....

As to why....traceability. Not that I would deceive the child.

Also, I liked the clinic we went to abroad. Totally different to UK.

Its a personal choice though. We are all struggling to make the right decision- is there one??!!

oooh crisp when is testing day ?? good luck on the job front too

motor I too have taken a side step job wise which does suit me

tame Reprofit are great to deal with

Evening all. Just popping in to give you a jet lagged wave from the other side of the Pond.

Thinking of you crisp.

buzzybee just out of interest, how much is a donor egg cycle at reprofit? I've been told roughly that its around 5 grand inc accomadation...

Which clinics is everyone else with? Is anyone else with nurture? If so, how are you finding them? X

tortie Absolutely, there are no right or wrong answers, we all just have to follow what feels right for us. Trouble is it is all so confusing that I fear that I'm making big decisions without knowing all the facts, so it's really useful to hear other opinions.
I'm with Herts and Essex who seem to be ok so far. I don't have anything to compare with, but I have no complaints.
Hi buzzy euro chummy and everyone else.
A whole ' other week to go crisps - keep distracted! Thinking of you and hoping!!

As an egg sharer I was shocked by the uk law on children born from donor eggs being able to trace the donor. When I donated my eggs, I had to leave a letter to the child etc. Not sure my reasons of 'cheap ivf' really cut it tbh!

Im not sure those laws exist to the same extent abroad? I may have this wrong. My perception is that they dont. X

Tortie I have got my head around the idea of the donor being able to be traced, although I had to do a lot of thinking and reading. Really not sure about this leaving a letter though. To my mind, the donor has donated eggs, not babies, not even embryos. If a letter is left for the child, I think he/she must feel that they were given away as a child, not just as one 'ingredient' of the recipe, so to speak! Again, there are a lot of differing opinions about this.

I wasn't entirely comfortable with the letter either. But then I wasn't entirely comfortable with any of the treatment I received at my previous clinic. An egg is not a child and I think getting that into focus and not treating this one element as such is important emotionally. My letter consisted of erm....not much!!

Has anyone else had bleeding at top of cervix during a smear?

Just had a smear (literally 2 hours ago) and top of my cervix is bleeding. My smear showed some very slight changes 10 months ago & this smear was to just 'rule out' anything bad! I trotted in thinking "it will be good to get this 'knocked off the list" and get on with IVF. DH away until Friday & having just come off the monster called google I am feeling a little bit wobbly.

Has anyone else ever had bleeding at the top of the cervix??
I don't have an infection (nurse said no inflammation either). I also had the High vag swab at the same time!!! IVF prep!

Google says infection, miscarriage, precancerous cells or cancerous cells and sometimes nothing (but not often) Feeling vulnerable.

chummy I don't have any answers but can offer some empathy. I had my first ever dodgy smear result come through when I was downregging last summer. It was an enormously stressful time. I'm supposed to have a repeat very soon, just as I am embarking on IVF again.

I know cervical erosion can cause random bleeds. Did you come across that in your googling?

I find the idea of being able to trace egg donors rather odd. I donate blood and wouldn't expect a recipient to trace me! (I know it's not quite the same, but neither is adoption of babies and they seem to be treating egg donation similar to that!).

Hello, lovely ladies, I'm back (I've name-changed after a run-in with some RadFems when I was cuckoobird) How are you all?

To be honest, as a newcomer to mumsnet, I have found it to be a little brutal on some of these forums and I wasn't sure whether to return. However, I've decided to keep my fat gob shut stay away from AIBU threads as that kind of shit really brings out the worst in me. Plus, I really need the space to come and chat with others who are preparing for IVF Am I okay to come back?

In the two week wait at the moment and as soon as my period arrives I can start on the Cyclo-Progynova (HRT). Right, I will go back and read all your news...

Welcome back Jewcy. Too unsociable for me to do much on here at the moment, but I look forward to hearing from you again. Intrigued by your run-ins, but maybe I shouldn't ask!