The Elderberry & Sausage Pavlovas in 'Battle Royale 3: Shag Tiara Death Match' - the search for the immaculate conception!

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Entrant criteria: TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, OPK & EWCM obsession, NO instadiffers. (Thread 6)

Frog - oh has given up drinking and smoking completely as advised by our fertility clinic. We're 3 weeks in!

Thanks everyone for indulging me and my pity party. I need to kick myself hard and get over it as there are plenty of people here who have endured a rougher ride than me (I guess part of my sadness is hearing some of your stories and thinking, do I have all that still to come? I'm on cycle 20 and have never had an LP longer than 9. Even if that gets fixed, what other problems might I encounter? How utterly selfish of me. Sausage slaps are well-deserved this evening.)

Anyway Raining, yes, still waiting for FS appointment to come through; anticipating it to be mid-April sometime (that's what the secretary at the doctors' was told when she rang up to ask on my behalf). I was feeling pretty bummed about the prospect of Clomid as you mentioned up thread you thought it was no use for women who are already ovulating. However, you saying that it can help extend LP gives me hope again. I'd be quite happy to pop out two...but do not tell DH for goodness sake - he'd freak!

Hello berries,

Congrats on the job, merkin! What will you be doing?
tally, I have to agree with the other berries, that it sounds wise to have a month off if it means you'll get some answers. You can still come here for sausage shuffling. I'm sure I'll still be waiting for AF.....

Frog, I'm just pulling your leg

Sorry you're feeling curmudgeonly, Barking. What DPO are you?

Hi gang. Still on a crying jag over here, mostly due to my mother letting me know via email this morning that the nutty wife of one of my cousins is pregnant again. She's the one I mentioned who got preg after 1 cycle of clomid; their baby isn't even 8 mos old yet and she claims the only day she had sex last month was 1day after her period ended. How do I know this? She videos her every thought and puts it online. 2 weeks ago she was implying her marriage was in trouble. Now she's bitching about a surprise pregnancy.

Thought I'd have the day to myself to get my head right, but DH's ex needed him to have my SKs tonight. Told DH I couldn't be around them alone and what did he do a couple of hours later? Tell my SS that he could stay with me while DH did an errand. My SS is a fantastic little boy but it is extreeeeeeemely hard to be around the positive outcome of my DH's successful pregnancy with someone else, when I am taking pain meds for severe menstrual cramps.

This is shit. I feel irrationally angry/hurt/so disappointed by it all. Please tell me I'm not losing my mind and that you all can relate.

Good to see you cavort how are you?

Oh sid sorry to hear you are blue, I know I was the same the other week, it's horrid, hugs!

Sidney that sucks big time and even though I don't know her, I can say quite confidently that your cousin's nutty wife is a silly moo who doesn't deserve her good fortune if she uses online videos to imply that her marriage is in trouble. That must make her husband feel just great.

I don't have SK experience as DH and I are both first-timers. However, I can't even look at my baby niece without feeling a whole mix of emotions (mostly bad, I'm ashamed to admit) so spending the evening with a SS whilst your body is reminding you (so aggressively and painfully) that it's not happening for you yet must just be horrific.

I understand the irrationality of it all and yes, it is irrational, but sod that; I think we have the right.

Hey Bunny, good thanks. 24+5 and cooking nicely, or so I'm told. I would ask how you are but I feel like I know already as I am a unashamed sausage stalker Can't wait for you all to join us

sid, totally understand. The nutty one sounds horrific, so it doesn't do much to help you feel happy for her.

raining I'm a whole 2 days past O so obviously all the symptoms are coming thick and fast and I'm clearly upduffed.

Thank you, barking, not a fan of spikey sausages.
Got my slanket...thinking of a name change. Still love my cats, but thinking it's lame name. Didn't have any inspiration then and have none now...

hmmmm yes I agree!

cavort we are trying to join you!!!!!! But I bet you will have already had it by the time we get there You were one of the first ladies I first got to know on here (with janey too) so it would be nice to catch up lol

Bunny it sounds like you and Mr Bunny have given it a bloody good go this month. I have high hopes!

Evening ladies.
Congrats on the job Merkin. I have no real news to report here.
As you were.

Oh, except one thing I read about SA.
There is no real 'normal'. The only results they have are from men who have had vasectomies who have known to have fathered children. This is because they have to give a sample before and after.

cavort it's our best effort in months, being pleased with DTD just twice just shows you how bad previous months have been. Hubby has been struggling with the stress and pressure.

So ladies do you think we should try again tomorrow CD 17 or just quit whilst we're ahead?!?

Sid, I understand. You are not going nuts. I am a 'step-mother' to DP's little boy of seven, although I never see him. He lives two train journeys away and DP goes to see him every Saturday alone. This is because I do not like the weird little shit and dislike his mother even more. I am not an intolerant woman; on the contrary, I am brilliant with kids and have spent a large portion of my adult life teaching in pupil referral units and other establishments 'educating' some painfully recalcitrant little bastards. I am an affable person who gets on with anyone and I really do love children, however DP's son is stranger and more unpleasant at times than any other child I have come across. His mother (Spanish, barely speaks cogent English) fell pregnant at 45 and cannot understand why I am not yet pregnant: "Issa easy haffing baby at fotty-wan, no? I never haff sex mucho with [DP's name] and I haff baby at fotty-fife!"

I have stopped answering the phone when she rings and have mentally evicted her and her son from my life. I am too busy trying to make my own baby. I salute you for making room in your life for your husband's children. You are not superwoman; you are entitled to resent them and their mother from time to time. Just try not to view them as an obstacle to you getting your baby. There is not a finite amount of babies to go around. You'll get your baby x

I apologise for the excessive use of the word 'baby' in that last paragraph.

Pip, interesting about SA and what's 'normal'

Sid, what I would say is it sounds as though you enjoy a pretty good relationship with your step kids. Are they fond of you? Respect you? If this is the case I woudln't let your AF hormones spoil things. Give that little lad a big squeeze. I'll bet he thinks you're ace. On the other hand, your cousin's missus is a twat.

Boo, I'm really feeling bad for you. I hope when the hormones have settled you will be able to step back and look at the bigger picture: yes, you've been trying for a long time and yes, your luteal phase length is a problem. But you're young - very young - and fertility experts will be on your case very, very soon. Look forward to handing your fertility over to the professionals - it really does feel like a weight gets lifted off your shoulders. I have no doubt that when they lengthen your LP and stop the spotting you will be well on your way to mummyhood

Thanks, Raining. There is a tiny part of my brain that knows I'll sort myself out in a few days, once the evil AF/vomiting passes. I can't wait to get that FS appointment through, I really can't. I need something to focus on as I can feel it starting to get to me in an unhealthy way. I've been dreading this announcement at work for ages as instadiffer in Q has made no secret over the Great Big Baby Plan and it just really pissed me off as whenever she spoke of it, attention would inevitably come onto me too.

I like to think I've been quite stoical about my difficulties and LP issues in real-life (I have a few trusted friends that know about it.) but I know you lovely ladies are the ones I need to turn when I just need to shout a big fat Oh for fuck's sake!

(And how I managed to survive not actually becoming an active poster until just a few months ago, I will never know! You're the ones keeping me semi sane at the moment!)

You know, I do feel for you thirtysomethings because you must be facing the pain of all your other thirtysomething mates getting pregnant on what must seem like a daily basis. My friends, on the other hand, are over forty and have had their gazillions of kids and are celebrating their sprog's 18th birthdays in some cases!

All I can say to you is it is just your situation that matters; your life. The world will continue to revolve and undeserving slags women will keep popping babies out. Try to look at them through rational eyes - their bus has simply turned up before yours is due. Yours is coming around the corner..

Wise words, raining, and reassuring too.

Boodle, we have been trying the same amount of time. It fucking sucks!!

Have not caught up after another night out but am slightly squiffy from celebrating new job and had a quick scroll through and in a drunken man kind of manner wanted to say "I luff you berries"! Honestly can't think what I'd do without you simply lovely ladies!! Night