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Right, that's it! Fabulous Forty Somethings ttc want our bfp's and we want them now! We have waited long enough!

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hopefulgum · 05/03/2013 09:51

Here's our shiney new thread. The one where I finally get upduffed with everyone else! Smile

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mozzarellamummy · 07/06/2013 10:25

green I am really sorry.. I wish I could tell you more but I know there is no way now to take the sorrow away from you..just sending you hugs,just virtual ones but I hope you'll get more comfort in RL .. I guess how much you are devastated and it's utterly unfair ..

Morien · 07/06/2013 10:28

green I am so, so sorry. I know how it feels and I'm really sorry you've got to find out too. We're here.

isadorable · 07/06/2013 10:31

Oh Green, I'm desperately sorry to hear that. I know there's nothing I can say but please take care and I hope your dp is there to look after you. Big squeeze from me

littlepinkfizz · 07/06/2013 10:34

green so so sorry. I know only too well how gutted and bereft you must feel.these days will be hard beyond belief but we are here for you .

I know nothing can make it any better.
Hugs xxxxx

hopefulgum · 07/06/2013 11:44

Oh Green, I am so sad to hear this. I do understand how devastated you are. Know that we are here for you. Take your time and be easy on yourself, take good care of yourself. It will be hard, but we will all be here to listen and I promise you, it will get easier in time.

Much love xxx

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diege · 07/06/2013 12:20

green I am so sorry for you, that's devastating news Sad I wish there was something I could say to help, but I know (having had the same in one pregnancy) that at this point things are truly grim and just so sad. Thinking of you xxx

JBrd · 07/06/2013 13:29

green I am so so sorry to hear your awful news Hmm It is so devastating that you have to go through this. Sending lots of hugs xxx

Irishmammybread · 07/06/2013 17:04

green so so sorry to hear your news, it's so sad.
Words seem so useless to offer when you're going through such grief and loss but we know how you feel and are here to support you,in a virtual way. Wish I could give you a RL hug. x

Isabeller · 07/06/2013 17:29

sending love to you green xxx

2minds · 07/06/2013 18:39

I am so sorry to read your news, green. Sad Sending love. x

CaliBee · 07/06/2013 18:57

Oh no!!!! green you poor thing. I'm so sorry for your loss....sad times.

jass43 · 07/06/2013 20:59

green......there are no words which can help......am crying for you now. It is so devastating......

hopefulgum · 07/06/2013 23:46

TTC in our forties is just so hard isn't it? We have to try so hard to even get the bfp, and then the first trimester is fraught with worry, and almost all of us have experienced loss.

But we still go on don't we? I think that our hope and love for our future child is just so strong and beautiful that we keep on trying.

It is just so bloody hard, and having friends online, here, on this thread is a life-saver.

Sending loads of love out there - into the net-o-sphere to you all.

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hopefulgum · 07/06/2013 23:50

Calibee, I am pleased to hear that the honeymoon went well and that you have a smiley face on your opks. Fingers crossed Smile

It is a relief to hear you say that the provera is used in that way. Should I take it then? The dose was very low : 2.5mg, so perhaps it would be good for luteal phase support? The other option I have is buying prometrium on ebay (I know, I know, it sounds nuts) but I just can't be bothered going back to the doctors - another $75- and I won't get an appointment for a month. Perhaps I should just take the provera and if I get a bfp (and she did say this) I'd switch to the pessaries (which is prometrium I think?)

I would love some input ladies. I just feel quite confused about it all.

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CaliBee · 08/06/2013 07:07

gum remind me of the specific reasons for your Dr to prescribe provera. All i know off the top of my head is that one is medroxyprogesterone ( provera) and the other is micronised progesterone . In my pharmaceutical mind that would mean differing doses depending on the effect required.
It seems a bit like your gp may have not given you the full facts here and i'm thinking maybe giving her the chance to put that right or perhaps asking another gp at the practice.
Hugs to green if you are reading x

hopefulgum · 08/06/2013 07:29

Thanks, Calibee, She prescribed it because I asked. There's been suggestions that progesterone helps support pregnancy, even if you progestrone levels aren't low and you LP is okay. I have read that it supports women who have previously miscarried and also helps the body "accept" a pregnancy, which may be an issue if you have anti-bodies. It is all speculative in my case, because I don't know for sure that a) I need it for a less than perfect progesterone level or b) that I have anti-bodies. I just want to take it in case I have either of those issues.

It is the synthetic form(medroxyprogesterone) and I have read it isn't to be used in pregnancy, but like you say, a small dose may be used to support the luteal phase. I don't know why she chose it over prometrium - actually, I think she chose it because that is what her pregnant patient, who had done ivf, was using.

I am tempted to take it at that low dose this month, and when I get a chance will see her or another doctor and discuss getting prometrium (which is hormone identical, rather than synthetic) or progest.

It seems to me that most women doing IVF or using progesterone are NOT using provera, and I wonder why she (the doctor) doesn't know that?

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CaliBee · 08/06/2013 07:49

Hmmmm....if i'm honest gum having seen and heard what some of my consultants have said to me over the past year or so of ttc i am finding it harder and harder to trust them, which is very sad. I too have read about boosting the lp with added progesterone but surely they would do a 7dpo progesterone blood level to check that this is the case first? Also ..like you...I always see progesterone used in pessary form for this use. Its all abit odd me thinks.

jass43 · 08/06/2013 13:01

I have seen progesterosupport suggested in artificial form, but under name duphaston and it is another artificial form, it is in Estonia massively prescribed for LH phase support and is oral. My doc says better is pessaries and natural, but as there is big price difference, people in middle income country usually go for artificial form, even in IVF people stop the real stuff Round 5 weeks and shift to artificial one. So it can sustain pregnancy, evenif artificial. On the doses I still can say nothing. But obviously gum your doc is out of her water here, having a private consultation might be your better option. Costs more, but you get expert advice, and you will not have spent money in vain at least.....

jass43 · 08/06/2013 22:12

Just got back from a half marathon night run with a time of 2.05. Guess I can not be pregnant this cycle, 8 DPO would already be sleepy feelings and some suspicion. Well, nothing like that.

VortexOfDisaster · 09/06/2013 00:40

Green I am so, so sorry to hear your news. I do know how you feel and it is gutting.

Do please let us know how you are doing, or if you need a hand held.

hopefulgum · 09/06/2013 08:39

Hi everyone.
I am not feeling very well, so have been quiet this morning. Feeling less awful now, but not 100%. I think I may be suffering the side effects of the anti-biotics. Either that or I have a case of gastro, or the cold I still have is not a cold, but a long lived virus which also upsets one's tummy.I had a rash a few days ago for a couple of days and di wonder if it was the anti-biotics or the illness. Strange.

Anyway, I've made bone broth and kefir this morning and plan to pick up some yoghurt tomorrow, all in the hope that it will replenish the bacteria in my gut.

Because of all this I didn't take the progesterone last night. So I only took it once two days ago, and still don't know what to do Confused I may actually take it tonight as after reading Jass' post I feel less worried about taking the synthetic form. I think it may also have been prescribed because it isn't as expensive as the other, and it has a longer shelf life. Anyway, I'll use a combination of the drug and the cream and see how crazy I am before my LP is out!Hmm

I can report a reasonable temperature this morning and very tender breasts. Really no different from any other month. We shall see what happens.

I have been thinking of you Green. I hope you have plenty of love and support right now. (((hugs))

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jass43 · 09/06/2013 09:40

Tender breasts, hopeful, can also be an effect of taking progesterone support. I know you have only taken it once and not even yesterday, but you have to keep that in mind I symptom spotting. High temp though is good sign certainly

hopefulgum · 09/06/2013 15:10

Yes Jass, I know symptoms won't reveal any clues if I am on progesterone, so I am keeping an open mind. I really won't know anything until AF is late and I get a + test...fingers crossed.

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mumalah · 09/06/2013 20:06

I'm so sorry Green , thinking of you. I have had ovulation pains everyday and all day since ovulation. The pain even manages to travel down my thighs? Has anyone else experienced this before? Its not a really bad pain, but noticeable, sort of niggly. I am 7dpo.
We went away camping this weekend as weather was supposed to be good, but wasn't. It was so last minute we took the tent but forgot the poles! Dp would not be defeated and we were able to make a makeshift shelter, out of our canopy poles and our friends canopy poles and some windbreak poles! We did get some very strange looks, but all in all it was good fun. Im now home tired and relaxed.

jass43 · 09/06/2013 21:02

Mumalah, good to hear of a great weekend experience! And, I do not like sounding obsessed, but I keep getting ovarian pains shooting and stabbing if I have an active corpus luteum in an ovary. That, of course, happens in case of pregnancy.....