Excellent Egg Buddies continued! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in Jan, Feb and March 2013 please join us!

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We've run out of room on Karbea's Jan IVF thread and it is too much fun to stop! We're all getting into comfy clothes and enjoying the side effects and surprises (and occasionally some hand holding).

Hello everyone !

I love the fact that 'bulletgate' is still raging on here. One of mine fell out of the front garden this morning. I was shocked. And then I panicked - the day before ET is not a good time to develop a fanny like a windsock. I may have to go out and find a bloody great cork to stick up there to keep everything in.

So, appt at 10.50 tomorrow morning for ET but they will ring us in the morning and if the embies can make it to day five, ET will be on Tuesday. shazza was so sweet what you said about giving them a wave yesterday when you were there. Am so glad all is well with you after your appointment with the women in uniforms ! I went to see my bessie last night and was reading your posts when I got back. Your dedication to the cause for the past year or so has been absolutely unreal. Shazlett should be very proud of her mum ! How are you feeling after your appointment ? Calmer ? X

keeps fanks luv ! I shall get you whatever treats you are missing from the uk. Your wish is my command. How are you doing on the 2ww ? All ok, well, apart from the weird dreams !? X

honts feel for you pet. Such shit timing for SIL to land that one on you. I hope you are doing something nice this weekend and Mr Honts is spoiling you. X

dildals your post was super super cute. Loved the reference to the litter ! Herding pissed people around is a nightmare. You did well not to leave them all to it. X

choco sooooo, has it sunk in yet then ? I hope so - enjoy it ! Um, I would probably fall foul of all sorts of censorship laws with my potty mouth. I'll stick to 'entertaining' you lot for now ! I am happy to compere the evening when we meet though, to stir up the crowd before shazza and dildals doing the 'dance of the inflated tiddies'. X

Karbea how are you today Hun ? Have you thrown out those biccies yet ?! X

tilly absolutely hilarious images of you in the boozer last night. Mr Toffee sounds brilliant ! Any news from Flintstone Fertility Clinic on your frosties ? Or are they planning to send news by pterodactyl post ? The bastards.

Now then Wolf Pack. What did you do after ET ? Any tips ? Any special foods ? All help gratefully received here at Noks Towers.

Love to all the lurkers out there.

Noks xx

I've sooo lowered the tone with all my bum fun. But it's purely for medicinal reasons.

I hooted at "fanny like a windsock" - I'm sure it'll work in your favour for the ET that bit of flexibility.

After my ET I went to McDonalds then Homebase. I am a bad mother.

Then I took to my bed a la the Victorians, and have pretty much stayed there ever since. I ought to point out though, I am a naturally tired person (or rather unnaturally) so love any excuse to bumble around.

Talking of dreams - I had a dream I had a baby boy and let him shit all over the floor then smacked his bum. I really am a bad mother!

Oh my goodness. I was laughing and crying so hard DP just came in to see if I was ok!

I can't believe one fell out Noks! That is absolutely hilarious. I was reading only the other day about the perils of childbirth and leaving our lady garden abit, ahem, loose. I panicked and have been squeezing my pelvic floor like mad every time I'm at the photocopier.

Tilly thanks for the detailed step by step guide. If I ever need to shove anything up my bum in future I know where to come for expert tips.

Tit watch is still producing no results despite my newly practised public squeeze technique. I thought that maybe I felt abit sick this morning but maybe that was wind. It's funny, for over 2 years I have thought about pretty much nothing else except TTC and now I keep forgetting I'm pg. it dawns on me every so often. I do feel abit better but it's amazing how quickly one needs reassurance again. It's like a fix.

ET tomorrow Noks is so exciting. I think if I were you I'd take to my bed also at least for a while. I never stop usually so I'd welcome a genuine excuse to not do anything just for abit.

Hope you are enjoying your Saturday's. Im going to do the washing up now. Xx

Tilly its not worth taking any risks is it? I'd hate to get this far then something happen and I'd feel it was cause I coloured my hair. I mean I can wait 8 weeks or do. It's not that bad. Xx

Haha ! tilly. Half woman, half mattress. I now have visions of you sitting in bed in a Jane Austen type frilly bonnet, barking orders at Mr Toffee. 'No Lord Toffee, You'll have to take the carriage back to the drive-thru as I wanted a bacon double cheeseburger, not a Big Mac....and doooooo get Nanny to pick that shitting child up off the floor'. #faints with the stress of it all#.

shazza sorry ! Didn't mean to alarm Mr Shazza. Or, Bono, as I am now going to call him because he spends so much time in the studio.

When inspiration strikes it's best to let him get on with it. The paintings will feed my unborn child after all

I've just had my first afternoon pregnancy nap half way through cleaning the bathroom. I felt very sleepy so took my rubber gloves off and settled down on the sofa. Now have a headache from sleeping too long in the afternoon and sadly the bathroom hasn't finished cleaning itself in the meantime.

X

Argh I've just come on! I wasn't due till Monday and I've got my appointment with the argc and I was hoping they'd say I could start straight away, but if I've already come on, maybe I won't be able to. Rubbish!

Karbea That's hard luck, why couldn't it have waited until Monday!?

Fingers crossed that you can go ahead despite AF making a surprise early appearance. x

Nokkie I typed a reply but it didn't post: Half Woman Half Mattress is EXACTLY what my DH would describe me as! You have described my perfect life to a tee, bonnet and everything. Just a shame for him that Mr Toffee isn't 'on message'!

Shazza I have been having naps for my entire life. Basically a 30 year long 'thin line' between toddler naps and (hopefully) pregnancy naps. Then I can look forward to old age naps too I hope.

I'm going to enjoy the art of napping Tilly. I just need to get better at it. I hope you have pregnancy naps as well

Karbea bad luck. But will you be down regging? Can't you just tell them that you started today (day 1) then start DRing on day 21? I hope you don't have to wait another cycle. X

This thread is comedy gold ... a fanny like a windsock, the DH with the semi, Flintstone Fertility Clinic ...

Guys specified in one of those leaflets that front door was better for the pessaries, but who knows really. Can't wait for the research that will answer this pressing question!

I had TWO naps today!

I stuck to the front apart from for my scans and when I was desperately horny and didn't want to have to think about them when shagging Mr Euro's brains out. The sheet from our clinic says front but the pack says you can use either.

The GP was next to useless. Said that if the pain and blood was reducing, everything should be fine and to go back if it hadn't stopped in a week, had a quick feel of my abdomen and that was that. Still, at least it is on my records now if, heaven forbid, I ever get to three and need investigations.

How are you all doing today? I've had quite a nice day. We had friends and their two children over for lunch. It was nice to have a catch up and the children were very well behaved. Then we popped out and I accidentally bought some impractical gold shoes. Oops. Just having a sit down now before packing.

Ooo, there's another page.

Noks after ET I took the train straight back to the office. Good luck for tomorrow!

shaz I went through a stage of manically doing my pelvic floor squeezes when pg. I'm neglecting them again now though.

I had also decided against hair dye in the first 12 weeks. I'm looking forward to getting my highlights done soon!

karbea I'm sure our bodies love to mess with us. I think mine is having revenge for all the alcohol abuse it received in my teens and 20s.

Tilly I am jealous of your napping ability. I am very fond of my sleep but like it all in one preferably uninterrupted chunk. Even after EC when I took myself off to bed to sleep off the sedative, I managed not a single wink. Almost every weekend Mr Euro ends up napping on the sofa. I really resented it when I was pg! It was supposed to be me.

The rivers of gore seem to be dying down here and the pain isn't too bad at all. I suspect I am still going to feel completely minging after 9 hrs on a plane tomorrow though.

Dildals you are allowed 2 naps. You have twins

Euro I love impractical gold shoes. Good for you. I hope they are showstoppers. Please wear them when we meet up! GP sounds ridiculous. I really hope that things calm down for your trip. Have a good time (despite it being work).

We are off out to a friend's for dinner. Tuna was on the menu so I had to pretend that it was on my list of foods to avoid due to my diet. But me n DP know the truth

Have a great evening girls. Love xx

euro hopefully you will be able to just relax in the evenings in your hotel, take a good book, run a bath, order in room service, watch thrashy tv. I tend to not have dinner too much with my colleagues when on business travel because it just exhausts me to have to behave/talk shop also in my down time, and I find that most are perfectly happy with that (just in case you feel it's impolite to brush them off).

Second the pelvic floor exercises - especially with the litter I feel my muscles need to be strong enough to keep the both of them in! God forbid I end up with a fanny like a windsock! Or as I like to say 'a fanny you can reverse park a truck in'.

Oh Shazza with all your nutritionist know how - anything particular I should be taking? I am taking the pregnacare vitamins, but nothing apart from that (ah and low dose aspirin). I eat pretty healthy most of the time, home made salads for lunch, porridge for breakfast, no alcohol, no caffeine (bar Fruit n Nut chocolate). I remember looking at one of those Zita West books a couple of years ago but it all sounded so macrobiotic, i wasn't ready for that at the time, so I put the book right back!

karbea if you're on LP that should be fine. Also, with SP you have your first scan and start drugs on cd2/3. You'd be cd3, though I think the cut off is 3pm, so maybe only cd2. So also fine! Hopefully they won't try and delay with other tests, and you can just start!

euro hope the plane's OK, are your company shelling out for business? Great news that you hopefully won't need any more intervention, we have so much!

Tilly have you lost the plot yet? I'm getting there and still have five days. I don't feel anything, am pretty sure it's not worked. I know, it's too early etc etc.

Have still got slightly rounded belly, what's that about? Is normal?

Oh, shaz, we are GMT+7, so I'll be poas about 1am Friday morning your time, or before depending how crazy early I wake up...

Morning laydeez. How is everyone today?

I'm impressed by the clean living on this thread. I am not too bad, but I am a chocolate addict....

keep I was bloated by each evening, sometimes ridiculously so. From my AN thread, I saw this seemed to be pretty common. I think it's related to progesterone, so we get rather a lot of it!

Unfortunately I don't get into the business cabin on this trip, just premium economy. Which at least gives me a bit of room to work.

Because this is the first time I've done this, I just don't know what to expect/feel. I am, in general, a pretty lucky person so I feel like "it'll be okay" on Tuesday. But of course, it might not be okay.

I feel like I'm waiting for the outcome of a job interview, or to see if an offer on a house has been accepted - I don't feel like it's anything to do with a baby. I guess I've tried to block that bit out to protect myself. Even if we got a BFP on Tues, I wouldn't be relaxed until all the tests were done and basically until the baby turned 18 was born.

Hello girls

Everybody ok today?

Noks have you got your little one/s on board or are they going the extra days? 'citing!

Tilly I completely relate to what you are saying even tho I didn't get through the cycle. It felt to me like a project of some description. It was hard to relate it all to having a baby. After one trip to guys DP said that he forgot the fact that not all babies were made this way. Even now that I'm supposed to have one in there I'm back to not believing it. I wonder if under 'normal' circumstances when a woman finds out she is pg does she then constantly question if it is true, will it go away somehow and continue to worry about all the milestones/hurdles ahead? I really hope you will 'be ok' on Tuesday. Its hard to know how you will take either result until you are faced with it. I have been amazed by the strength and courage of the woman on here. They have been truly inspirational and I only hope that I would be so brave if I found myself faced with the same situation or decisions. (hello to anyone lurking)

Keep my belly has gone down now. You really wouldn't know there was anything going on with my body. .

Dildals. This is my new list of supps

1x pregnacare conception (I'm using up the box before I graduate to the full blown pregnacare for pregnancy. That will be an auspicious moment. I've taken the conception ones for so long I'm made of folic acid and have shares in the company!)

1x ideal omega 3 (this has 700mg EPA but only 200mg DHA which is apparently good during pregnancy so she has added the following)
1x MorDHA prenatal (on the bottle it says "supports the brain and eye development of the foetus and breastfed infants" so this baby will hopefully be brainy and will see well )
1xdrop of vitamin d bio-d-mulsion forte

I not sure if the below is for me (ie for my skin) or for the baby
1x biocare Bio-Acidophilus
1xLactobacillus plantarum rhamnosus salivarius (!) basically it is a probiotic

I'm guessing that you could look look into the DHA and maybe not worry about the others cause they might be to support me rather than the baby. I got mine from the nutricentre which is based in the hale clinic. They also deliver.

She said that dairy is the quickest source of calcium but not necessarily the best. She suggested I eat broccoli, quinoa, sesame seeds (hummus), green veg, tinned sardines and almonds. All have great calcium for the little ones bones. Also continue with the avocados as they are great all round goodness. Apparently also good for babies when they eat solids obviously.

I feel like I'm making loads of decisions to protect shazlett this weekend. Yesterday was the hair colour and today we are thinking of our holiday and have decided against flying. Instead we are going to take a train to south of France. What do you all think of flying in first 12 weeks. Zita says to avoid if possible although there is no evidence to suggest it is dangerous. As we talked about yesterday, I just am so afraid of unnecessary risks.

Also can I ask a personal question? What about sex? DP is starting to get fidgety! Again zita says hold out for 12 weeks but no evidence. Tbh I feel like there is enough going in and out down the I'm not sure I can accommodate anything else in there at the mo. also I don't want shazlett to feel like I'm repeatedly banging down her door with a battering ram but am I over reacting? What do you think?

Having a quiet day otherwise. I got some lovely yarn on eBay and might think about what I can make with it. I've already made a baby blanket a while ago.

Hope you are all ok? Whatcha up to?

Much love shaz xxx

Hello Wolfie Pack

So out of my four three-day embryos, one embryo was a 6 cell, the other a 12 cell (obviously in a hurry, that one !) and the other two were perfect 8 cells (one at grade 4 which is the highest grade - i.e., no fragmentation - and the other one a grade 3 - slight fragmentation). The two eight cell embies were popped back in at about 11.15am this morning. I was so awed by the process that I didn't get a picture (am quite cross about that - they didn't offer one either) and didn't ask any questions. I was struck dumb. I think I was so scared that any sudden movements or loud noises would send the speculum bouncing off my consultant's head or flying across the room (what with my twitchy lady garden) that I elected to shut my big fat gob for once. So, I have two back on board the mother ship. The other two are cooking away and they will let us know on Wednesday whether they can be frozen.

And there we have it. The 2ww awaits. Day of reckoning is 30th March.

I am still a bit stunned really.....(in a good but scared way).

Noks xx

Oh Noks that is amazing. Well done top grade as well. Your little ones are already in the top set. You must be so proud . I'm really really happy for you. All we have to do now is wait and pray and keep our fingers crossed. And you have to rest and let mr Noks look after all 3 of you. Well done. So exciting x

Oh thanks so much shazza. What a lovely message ! I guess it will sink in over the next few days but am still a bit (sounds bloody preposterous) stunned !

At the Flintstones Fertility Clinic they didn't mention anything about 'grades' to me. On the one hand, I don't mind because it might just give me something else to measure myself against. I noticed when the consultants visited each woman and her partner in the little 4 bed ward that all the other whispered conversations came to an abrupt halt so they could earwig to what was happening to their neighbours. I talked even louder when the consultants were visiting my neighbours; one to show I didn't want to know about their harvest, and two to sabotage all the other Nosey Noras' efforts!

But on t'other hand, I might have liked to have known what 'grade' we were dealing with so that I had a better overall picture of what was going on.

And talking of pictures - what's all this about getting a picture Nokkie? Please tell me you mean a copy of some kind of scan rather than a Facebook style pose of your smiling face popping up from beyond two harnessed legs akimbo??

I am jealous of all that the South has to offer you ladies. I want grades and pictures.