Excellent Egg Buddies continued! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in Jan, Feb and March 2013 please join us!

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We've run out of room on Karbea's Jan IVF thread and it is too much fun to stop! We're all getting into comfy clothes and enjoying the side effects and surprises (and occasionally some hand holding).

Scarlett I'm so sorry xxxxx

euro sounds grim, but we don't mind. I'm glad it's starting, albeit slowly. Take care of yourself, it may be distressing once it starts.

shaz ET is actually tomorrow, it's just my timezones are confusing. We just had the sechs in testing the theory seminal fluid helps implantation. Dh was very keen to try this theory. No stone unturned and all...

Scarlett, again xxx

Sorry, just a quick one. How full a bladder for ET? They said drink 2 cups of water, but I'm supposed to arrive an hour Pre transfer. Don't want to be bursting the whole time (I think euro had to do a half wee?). What do you recommend?

In first iui I thought it was like a normal scan, they'd not told me a full bladder, so I had to drink, then we all sat around waiting for my kidneys

Yes, they kept me waiting an hour and I had to let a bit out. I started drinking about an hour before my appointment. I'd drink just as you arrive. I think it takes around 30 mins for liquid to reach the bladder on a fairly empty digestive system (I did a lot of googling, for all the good it did me!).

As for me, there is definitely something going on now, but nothing that a couple of nurofen can't deal with, for the moment.

OK thanks. You don't want a completely full bladder for the transfer, then?

Hi euro I hope you are ok. Switch to solpadine if you need hard core pain killers. Its a horrible event, I hope you suffer as little as possible

Keep - now there's a theory that I didn't know about . Even though I don't need to now luckily. Good luck for tomorrow

I'm mentalling like mad today but realise that so far I'm lucky.

Im thinking of you all today.

Shaz xx

Thanks everyone, sorry for post and run i was a bit upset,

The embryologist said that when an egg is fertilised they should see 2 rings around the outside. With mine, 1 did nothing at all, 1 had 1 ring & 1 had 4 rings, so they are classed as abnormal, seemingly my eggs can't fertilise normally. She said its not very common, it basically means bad eggs, and that most likely my body would have rejected them on a normal month, prob explains why it's not happening naturally if my body is discarding them on a regular basis.

Have just had a call and we have an appt tomorrow with the nice consultant so should know more then but am pretty certain she is going to say my eggs are fucked an only option is donor which for me is just not an option.

I feel very old and pointless at the moment, think this is game over for me ladies x

Mine was completely full to bursting. I'd drunk normally through the morning (my transfer was at lunchtime) so still had some of that in my system and then went for a wee and had a cup of water an hour before as I left and then a half litre bottle on the journey over. The problem for me was the delay of 1 hr at the clinic!

Oh scarlett. You sound so sad. Don't give up yet though - wait to see what the consultant has to say tomorrow.

Scarlett I'm so sorry. That is terrible news. Is DE definitely not an option? My acupuncturist had the menopause at 26 and now has a lovely little boy from DE. I know it's a massive decision but give yourselves time to grieve this loss. I hope that the nice consultant will be able to give you options. Sending you loads of love. Xx

Girls just so you know I've had a name change. Still me! Xx

Sorry it's shaz by the way. Just in case that wasn't clear

Hi all

scarlett please wait and see what the consultant says tomorrow. I know it's easy for me to say but don't make any assumptions until you have spoken to the hospital. Have all the facts first. And hey, you're far far FAR from old and pointless. Am sending you lots of cyber hugs. Noks xx

euro sorry if my post earlier was a bit abrupt. Didn't mean to be so sorry if I came across like that. I just had five minutes to post and was being hassled at work . I only said that because the nurse reckoned my d&c fucked my lining. How are you this evening Hun ?

shaz what's with the name change ? Are you a spy ?

keep I fecking hate having a full bladder so let me know what they say. I was even contemplating going up there two hours before so I wouldn't have to sit on the train obsessing about having a widdle.

Hi to everyone else.

Noks - who is waiting till 10pm to pull that trigger shot beeatch. X

scarlett I'm really sorry about the eggs not fertilising. Please don't blame yourself, it's nothing to do with your health or vitality or your worth, it's just bad bad luck.

euro I hope you're in the home stretch. You've been admirably calm, at least on this thread!

keep I didn't have a full bladder at all for the ET because that sensation drives me mental. I went to the loo about 20 min before and drank a cup of water. It was fine. They only advise it because it helps with the ultrasound picture, it's not intrinsic to the ET process.

shazza I hope you're feeling a bit less freaked out. I know how you feel. It still doesn't seem real to me.

AFM I am in the middle of a big two day work thing in London. Luckily one suit of mine still fits (formerly known as my " fat suit". Sigh.)

Hi Girls

Noks Trigger tonight? Wowee you is doin it girl! Noks, the quickest draw in the west.

DP made me abit Internet paranoid so thought I'd better revert to more of a nickname.

So if trigger is tonight EC is Thursday? Blimey it flies by doesn't it? Don't forget, I think it was Northey who said that it seems like you are pushing the plunger of the trigger shot forever so don't panic. Good luck honey.

Fairy lovely to hear from you. Are you feeling ok? I'm fretting cause I don't have any symptoms except for cramping so it's hard to believe its real and everything is ok. I left 2 messages for guys today cause I feel need to talk to someone but they didn't call me back.

Scarlett how are you? I'm with everyone else, this is not your fault. You are not old and certainly not pointless but I know that is easier said than felt. Try to get some rest tonight and hopefully tomorrow will bring answers but most importantly options.

Euro how are things with you tonight? Big love.

Hello to everyone else. Are you out there?

Night night
Shaz x

I pulled da triga. It's exciting fucking terrifying

So, when are we all going to meet then ? When we're all sectioned under the Mental Health Act or at GA (Google Anonymous) when we're all put on the ten step programme for excessive googling and interweb dependency issues ? I've googled the fecking life out of day 12 stimms and egg collection tonight. Ffs, am going to put my goddam hands in mittens so I can't do it to myself anymore.

I may also pop myself into Sweary Anonymous cos my swearing is off the scale fuck fuck FUCKITTY fuck right now. Did I tell you that Malcolm Tucker is my hero ?

Noks x

Yay well done Noks. No stopping it now. Those eggs are going to be coming out. It is really exciting.

Damn the accessibility of the Internet on the phone. I'm now desperately looking for reassuring stories of people who had very few symptoms (basically 1) and went on to have healthy babies. Unfortunately I've just read how morning sickness is a good indicator that there is plenty hcg in your body. Which is good obviously. Yep, don't have that.

I'm up for meeting. Should we do a night time, not drinking session or a grownup weekend afternoon tea type of affair?

Right I'm going to step away from the google now and go to sleep.

Night all
Xx

noks no need to apologise. I had to check back to see what on earth you might be apologising for! So I certainly wasn't bothered by your post. When nothing was happening I kept wondering if I should have gone for an ERPC despite not wanting to see the inside of a hospital and having memories of my mum getting a terrible infection and almost dying after one when I was a child. But now something is going on, I just have to hope that my body can manage it all naturally.

I'm glad your trigger is done. Good luck for EC Thursday!

Shazz I think only about 75% of people get morning sickness and it doesn't usually start this early on anyway. Lots of people on my AN thread started upchucking between 6 and 8 weeks. I was just starting to feel faintly nauseous (in the evenings rather than mornings) at 5-6 weeks when things went wrong and my symptoms started fading, so my HCG levels must have been fine before that, but it didn't mean anything. Have you joined an AN thread? I found that way other people pointed out things that made me think "yeah, I have that too" when I hadn't really associated whatever it was with being upduffed.

Scarlett I hope your consultant has something helpful to say today.

I have nasty period pains now and quite heavy bleeding, but nothing unmanageable. On my normal period pattern, days 2-3 of bleeding are always the most evil and I'm on day 2 of this now. I have acu this morning which will hopefully keep things moving in the right direction. I am finding using towels for the first time since my early teens absolutely grim.

One blast on board!! Likely three for the freezer tomorrow, which I'm vv happy with. They are grade 2, fair/good.

Transfer was OK but I needed the loo so badly and then they made me lie down for an hour...

Am now freaking out it's fallen out already, and had some minor cramps but assume that's from the procedure?

OTD 22/03. Ooh, and we got a picture of our blast, and it sitting in my uterus. :)

euro so glad it's starting, well, you know what I mean.

Hello euro

I hope today is manageable for you. I assume you are off work? When are you due to travel?

Thanks for the encouragement. I havent joined an AN thread yet. Like fairy and dildals I don't quite feel ready and I'm so nervous to jinx it. I don't want to get ahead of myself and then fall from a great height if something goes wrong. But maybe i should check it out and dip my toes in. It feels so precarious and I still can't get out of my head that we might have made a mistake. I want a professional in a uniform or at least a white coat to verify it for me! I'm going to take your advice and ask Guys for a blood test. That might help.

Keep how was ET? How many have you got on board

Scarlett how are you this morning sweetie? Good luck with your appt. let us know how you get on. I'm pretty much on my own in the office today so I'll be checking in to see how you are doing.

Noks how are you feeling this morning?

Choco nearly there. Anything to report?

Fairy and dildals did you start a thread for those non earth mothers who are nervously upduffed? I'll join!

Bonjour to everyone else if you are around. I hope you are all ok.

Have a good day.

Shaz xxx

Keep we cross posted. That is brilliant. And you have a picture that is doubly exciting. Don't worry it won't fall out. What are your plans now? Are you off work? I've got everything crossed for you. Xx

Thanks shaz. I'm not working at the moment, but studying in the afternoons which is working out quite well with all this. I'll go in tomorrow. People haven't been not working post ET have they?

You could just read the AN thread, not join for a bit? Or join one like the 10+ graduates or brokers, who've mostly be trying a long time and would get the mentalling, plus be not millions of people.

Shaz I haven't started a thread yet for 'Pregnant IVF Worriers' because I wasn't quite sure how to peg it, but I think I just did ie 'Pregnant IVF Worriers'! I have been asking a few questions on MN, just random ones, and I found a thread with twin mums/pregnant with twins, so I am going to grill them for info. But again, still mildly nervous to join. Unlike Fairy I still fit in to all my clothes (to be fair there's one pair of jeans that don't fit comfortably anymore, but all the others are fine), I don't feel nauseous anymore and basically don't feel v pregnant. (Although, to be honest, I feel like I am trying to exercise at altitude ...)

On the not having any symptoms, when I googled it I found loads of people that had no symptoms, so don't worry too much Shazz! And I turned out to have 2 of them in there.

I had this awful dream last night that one of the babies came out, I caught it and held it in my hand. Not good.

euro nothing I will say is going to help I guess, but thinking of you.

That's excellent news keep. Did you see the video I posted on the last thread I think? It showed a womb moving an embie around to get it where it wanted to be. It was fascinating. So I guess that is what you are feeling.

My clinic only made me lay still for 20 mins after ET and that was bad enough.

shazz you could always lurk for now? I jumped in quite early because I was so happy to finally be in the club. It was sad to have to drop out, but seeing the same thing happen (unfortunately) to others did make me feel that mc is "normal" and can happen to anyone.

I'm in loads of pain now. I'd like to crawl back to bed, but I have loads of work to do and an acu appointment in a minute. I'm going to go to the acu, and then probably swing by my office to pick up a few things and then come home and work from my bed. I appear to have developed tourettes - I'm wandering around the house, hunched over, clutching my belly and swearing like a sailor.

Thanks euro, I'll go back to find that video. Can I just say how awesome you are, so helpful even at such a time. Sweetheart I think you should blue off both acu, as its started, and work, and just go to bed. You don't want to have a load of needles in you if it gets worse, or to have to get home, x

euro I second Keep, and they charge you for sticking needles in you! That can't be right! ;-)

Thanks for the reassurance girls. I didn't know about the 10+ thread so I'll check out the grads from there. I'll still join your worriers club tho