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TTC 10+ months Part 13

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buzzybee123 · 04/02/2013 11:56

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

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lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 09/02/2013 09:45

Good to see you're dritting teeth in a much more sensible way princess Wink not long now. And hurrah for up-cycling.

Re: gail/viv I was not particularly hurt, but felt a bit vulnerable and over exposed when she was pretending we were mad - so I forgot about the infection thing, even though we had very clear instructions from the clinic on that front.

I also forget the thread is public, but I like newbies to join us when they feel the need - huge welcome midnight, I too hope it is short and sweet -. It has been a bit of a safe haven where I have shown more of my feelings than in any other place, except counselling really. But she's gone now, and hopefully won't come back. It is good people challenged her, I just wondered whether I was mad...

Waves at all the others, I am feeling ROUGH. Had a TTC unfriendly night of lots of raw meat and wine with SB, things are feeling good again.

joycep · 09/02/2013 11:41

Hi ladies, been staying away to save you from hearing about my anxieties and woes. I now have seen that I have missed a bit of drama on here and damn it has been deleted so I don't know what the hell has been said. This thread is nearly 2 years old and that's the first nasty incident we have had which speaks volumes about what a lovely place this is.

Firstly Euro/doll - have been thinking about you both and I'm sure time is dragging. I am keeping everything crossed.

Sar - I also am desperately hoping that a post lap miracle happens for you. I have heard a number of stories of this happening.

Rabbit - goodness ivf so soon but for what it's worth I think it's sensible to go for it if you feel ready. As far as I can work out clomid is great with ovulatory probs and pretty hopeless otherwise. And if you have the opportunity to get immunes tested, I think that would be great.

I'm on my phone and am going to check other posts, I can't remember what has been going on.

AFM - I have found the last 2 weeks torturous but especially this Last week. All was seemingly going ok but on Tuesday my beta hadn't risen that much. That night I started bleeding. Next day bloods showed beta was hardly moving so went in for a scan. It showed both embryos had implanted and there were yolk sacs but they couldn't see why I was bleeding. But they immediately put me on ivig. Thursday hcg beta still had barely risen. And now yesterday they hadn't moved at all. I have been told it's not great news. I have to go in for more bloods and a scan tomorrow and I am fully prepared to hear the worst. I have found the stress of daily bloods and waiting for the phone call too intense. I had to wait until 7pm last night for them to call me with the bad news.
The only thing I can hope for is that one of the embryos has died and hence why beta has stopped rising & perhaps it will suddenly rise tomorrow but they have barely moved since Tuesday. Plus I have no symptoms any more, no twinges or anything. Andt progesterone is dropping too evening though I am on 6 doses a day. I'm not holding my breath. I've become a cry baby. I sat and sobbed all night and this morning. I am trying to prepare myself and hoping it will be a natural m/c and hope I don't have to have a erpc.

MuddyWellyNelly · 09/02/2013 11:48

Oh Joy. No no no. I will keep hoping for miracle good news. This is so very very shitty. Please don't feel you have to save us from your drama, it's what we are here for. But it's a very private thing, so if you can't update on here, we totally understand and will quietly root for you in the background. I so so hope it turns out ok. Huge hand squeezes x

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 09/02/2013 12:11

Oh no, joy. Hang in there, hand holding on offer. Venting here is on offer. And letting yourself sob, is also fine. Fingers crossed it is only one of them. Thinking of you!!

ArtemisTheHunter · 09/02/2013 13:39

Hi all

Been reading this week but not finding time to post - not anything exciting, just a silly workload - but I didn't come on here to moan about work. I'd be moaning a hell of a lot more if I didn't have any :)

Joy hang in there. The day by day tests and waiting is utterly traumatic and I'm not surprised you have been sobbing. As Lemon says, it is OK and you need to get the feelings out. We are all thinking of you and rooting for you and your embies. Huge hugs.

Well I missed yesterday's drama too. I saw the first few posts from our interloper but then picked back up again to see lots of deleted posts and being nosey am cross I can't read them. WTAF? There was always something a bit edgy about that poster but nothing specific I could have called her on. Now it all becomes clear. The best I can do is think that she is clearly a very troubled and unhappy person but unfortunately has chosen to take that unhappiness out on other people, and in a deceitful and underhand way. I really value the openness of this thread, and if it were not public i would never have found it in the first place, but that level of openness relies on trust. However. As I think Buzzy? pointed out, that's the first nasty experience in several years and that's got to be a good thing, it suggests the majority of people are lovely. You lot certainly are Smile

I'm going to try to catch up but I've got limited time so please forgive me if I don't namecheck everyone (or accurately!)

First Rabbit I didn't post quickly enough to give you the benefit of my clomid wisdom Grin but FWIW I think you've made the right decision. There is no evidence that clomid helps women who are already ovulating. The updated NICE guidelines, which went out for consultation about 6 months ago, no longer recommend its use in unexplained cases for women who are already ovulating. Frankly it made me feel vile - like a 5-month continuous dose of PMT - and I worried about the increased risk of ovarian cancer, though that is very small. It also meant the 2wws were even more traumatic than usual. My options were clomid followed by IVF, though the clomid wasn't a choice. I didn't even take the last dose. Now I feel we could have skipped straight to IVF, though I know I wouldn't have been ready to contemplate it at that point as it was quite early on after we'd seen the consultant and i wanted the hsg to prove there was nothing wrong, and I wasn't allowed that without trying clomid first Hmm.

Doll and Euro I've been thinking about you ladies lots despite not finding time to say hello. Hope you are both doing OK. The IVF 2ww was the slowest fortnight of my life. I have literally everything crossed for you, including my legs Grin. Hoping for some good news for you both for valentine's day. That's got to be a good omen surely.

i know there was a chat about feeling ready for IVF, though I can't remember quite who was discussing it (Madness?) Again, FWIW I never felt ready. It was just the only option left, other than continuing to try au naturel. I had to force myself to get my head around it but once the cycle started I was caught up in the process and while I sometimes looked up and thought 'what the hell am I doing?' it just felt inevitable. For me the hardest thing was making the decision to get started. Once we had committed to it the cycle itself had its own momentum and just carried us along. It did feel like a conveyor belt during the drugs and scans but during the EC and ET they were very careful not to make us feel like that and I did feel we had personal attention at the most important time.

Sar sounds like you had a brilliant consultation with the nurse. There should be more people like that in the nhs - willing to listen and empathise - I guess it helps a lot that she has been through it herself.

I've got to go now, Mr A is waiting for me to get ready to go out, but I'll be back later to finish catching up with everyone. In the meantime waves and tail feather shakes to all Smile

sarlat · 09/02/2013 15:34

Joy - oh my goodness, what a rollercoaster of emotions. I am so so sorry to hear that this pregnancy is under threat. What a scary horrible thing to happen. I am crossing everything tightly that the beta rises tomorrow. Please come here to rant and cry or feel free to stay away - as Nelly says we can root for you from a far. Thinking of you and sending positive wishes and the tightest hug ever.

Midnight - welcome, hope things start to look up for you both.

Art and Princess - so glad to hear you are both well. Roll on the next 3 weeks Princess.

Thanks for the good luck vibes from everyone for my post lap and fet updates.

buzzybee123 · 09/02/2013 15:45

basically she came o ask for advice about having sex the day after her lap, those that have had one said no way they could have done it, she said she would 'grit her teeth and do it Hmm then she went onto say that she was 'hardcore' and had had sex the day after her ERPC, which personally I found a bit disgusting but each to their own, she didn't like that it when everyone said that they couldn't have done that.
I didn't think any of it was nasty especially after reading some of the AIBU threads where they really kick off Grin critter is good at poetry I was always good at debating Wink plus I got to use my LC skills Grin

I'm sure we have all read things on here and have thought 'thats not me' or 'thats not what I would personally do', we are all individuals but we come here for support as that is the aim of the thread.

For any lurkers who have not felt able to come on, you are all welcome and this really is a very supportive and informative thread :)

My own opinion on viv/gail is that she is quite insecure with herself and very needy and selfish. I felt she needed to sort out her personal issues and her relationship instead of obsessing about having a child. Not many people can say they have literally driven someone to drink Hmm really she just needed to think before posting, unless she enjoyed getting a 'reaction' who knows

Anyway enough about that........................

joy I am so sorry you are having such a horrendous time with it all, I'm hoping that it will all be alright tomorrow for you, big hugs x

midnight welcome to the thread, taking your temp is a good way to know what is happening, it will take a few cycles to get used to it and to see a pattern emerging. I too felt like you did about feeling trapped by none TTC things and its sometimes hard to see the wood from the trees, I just focus on the here and now and trying to make the most of what we have and remind myself that this will not last forever, just need to hang on in there :)

princess I do like a bit of upcycling, glad your lovely house will be a family home soon

art you are right in that you probably never feel ready for IVF but I suppose some need to accept it, I know I couldn't have done it last year, I needed time to get my head around it, I'm also glad I didn't have it this month either although May seems ages away.

well cd14 and no +opk yet Hmm either a late ovulation or another dud month, will get Barry on the case just to be sure. Barry has been looking at things we can do to pass the time when we are in Brno, which is a good sign, not sure what Kayla is going to make of being 'home alone' for a week, well I should be getting on with a few jobs really. . .

weekend waves to everyone :)

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Poutintrout · 09/02/2013 17:31

joy I don't know what to say other than that I was really sad to read that this still isn't plain sailing for you and of course that I so hope that this is just a blip and everything turns out to be okay. Please don't think that you can't come on the thread and talk about this (assuming that you want to of course), you are definitely still one of the gang & I would hate to think of you going through all of this worry thinking that you can't use us as a sounding board. I am thinking of you. X

Hello Princess it's so nice to have you pop back! Exciting that you will be in your new house soon. gives out a medal for living with the ILS for so long

Buzzy Damn and buggeration at AWOL ovulation. Maybe it is just a late month. Did you miss the positive OPK maybe?

Hello lemons You know that I am now imagining you working your way through a joint of uncooked beef Grin

Waves to Art & sarlat

Happy weekend everyone. Proffers some crumble (yes, made some more. And I wonder why I'm fat at the moment!) and some Game of Thrones action.

buzzybee123 · 09/02/2013 17:59

pout Well I have been known to ovulate around cd16/17 so who knows, to be honest I think my eggs have given up, i'm not really sure if I ovulated last month, oh well

lemon raw meat?? I'm a vege so finding all this meat talk interesting Grin and aren't we all a little mad Wink I certainly feel my sanity slipping

I am doing my nails while admiring the talent of the French and Welsh perving at the boys in their tight shorts and tops

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EuroShagmore · 09/02/2013 18:24

joy I'm sorry the past couple of weeks haven't been easy for you. I think I speak for all of us on here when I say if we can offer any support, please let us know. You have been a great source of support and comfort on this thread for a long time now.

TheMidnightHour · 09/02/2013 20:34

Thank you for the welcomes!

Doll I will play nice - although I may screw up (particularly with cultural references, I am a little bit foreign) I promise never to be mean.

I do have a FF account (all shiny & new) and am trying to figure it out. Did not know about the Amazon cheapie OPKs - they are v expensive here so I'd abandoned hope science. Now to inquire about discrete brown envelopes - we are living with my mother, who knows we are TTC, but who doesn't remember me ever crying as a baby, so you can imagine how conversations about conception might go.

Euro Yes, I saw there was a string of deleted posts - it is very jarring & upsetting. I don't understand why people would do this. It's very hard to deal with but I did like Scalzi's response to a persistent hater.

Fingers x-d for a + at the end of your 2ww. If you need to kill some time, I have a lot of procrastinating tools? ;)

Lemon is raw meat bad for TTC? am veggie, so not really got a clue. Food advice seems really contradictory - and when you add recommendations for excema and being veggie I think I should probably only eat white rice and gently steamed broccoli!

buzzy thanks for the uplift :) I went out & climbed a mountain today (well, walked about 6km of one) and it was beautiful - if I'm a bit trapped, at least it's somewhere pretty.

joy I am hoping for the best possible outcome for you. I really hope you get some good news.

I'm on CD11 -- so just in time for fertile days, my horrible no-good cold is trying to turn into a chest infection. Still, maybe coughing counts as kegels?

seaviewasia · 09/02/2013 21:59

Hi everyone.

Joy ? I am really so sorry to hear about what you have been going through. Please please keep us up to date on the tests. I am literally keeping everything crossed for you. You were the 1st person I ?talked? to on MN and you are so lovely and helpful and supportive. I really want this to work out for you and Roy. [hugs]

I missed a couple of days and shocked to read what?s been going on with Viv/Gail. I am genuinely quite freaked out by it all. Madness ? I followed your lead and did a search and read some of her (ViV) posts on another thread? WOW I am genuinely shocked at some of the things that were posted. I know everyone is different and other MNers seemed to be fine with it but I get the impression on here that people find a thread that fit with their outlook and what they are looking for and it?s important to be respectful of your ?support network?. I am a newbie on here though so I am still learning. I have found this threat really useful and informative. I really enjoy the supportiveness and it?s a place where even though I don?t know you all in RL, you all understand the anxiety and worries I have about the possibly of never being a mother. It?s not something I can really articulate to many people in RL, even those close to me. I have also learnt a lot about AC which I didn?t know about and were too afraid to ask the docs.

Midnight ? Welcome! Sorry you found yourself here. I too am a newbie and these ladies have made me feel v welcomed.

Euro ? Thanks for the post about NK cells & funny video re MIL. My MIL is really not so bad. She really means well and even if she can be overbearing, I know it comes from a good place. I keep telling myself that. Re NK cells - I wonder if that is something I should bother having tested. I have no reason to think it?s relevant to me but it?s just something that plays at the back of my mind. I am assuming there are no symptoms of if you have high NK cells and you only know if you test for it. Is that correct?

Rabbit ? I saw your post about clomid or IVF. I am not sure of your situation but as the others have said, Clomid is not really a good option for ?unexplained? ie. there is no evidence that it helps at all. I am an unexplained case and have been for more than 3 years and doctors have never suggested Clomid. I did take it for my superovulation IUI though. Sorry you feel pressured. I think IVF is a big step and you really need to be ready for it ? not just physically but also mentally. That?s one of the reasons why I opted for IUI first despite people (including some MNters ? not on this thread of course) telling me I am deluded for doing so at my age. I think it really has to be a personal decision. Go with what feels right for you. As for PCTs not funding IVF if you self fund a cycle. I have heard about this situation. I wonder if that?s the case in London. Would anyone know how and where I might be able to find out? If my IUIs are unsuccessful I plan to do IVF ? either self funded or NHS but I have not made a decision as yet (and hoping I don?t have to)

Buzzy ? I know I know my MIL sounds bad but she really is okay. She doesn?t get to see Mr Sea a lot and he?s been away from his country since he left university so she just misses him. Good luck with the AC and with adoption. I would love to know about the process of adoption as you experience it.

Pout ? Belated happy anniversary. What lovely idea for gifts. Very romantic. I didn?t have the coffee. I did have a nice cup of tea with soya milk instead. Is your aversion to soya milk down to taste or the fact that it?s bad for TTC? I like almond & oat milk but Soya is still my fav! Good luck with the new cycle!

Gin ? my OTD is Sat 16th. I have been very good and not been tempted at all to test early. I don?t feel any symptoms at all and I try hard not to think about it at all but sometimes my brain gets the better of me. I?m forcing myself to have no expectations.

Sarlat ? I held out? no coffee for me so far. So happy to hear you had a good experience with the NHS nurse. I too had a lovely lady who did my IUI. Good luck with the 2WW.

Critter ? glad to know it?s not just my MIL that like to pop in for a chat by the bed in the morning. It can get awkward!! I think ovulate can be v changeable, as least that?s what I found when I was doing the sticks. Good luck with the IVF if you decide to do it. Have you done one already is that why you know they would put you on a long protocol?

Doll & Euro ? I think you ladies are testing next week. I?m sending positivity your way.

I saw some mention of doing a roundup of everyone?s situation. That would be really useful for me (and I am sure others who want to delurk). I do wonder how long this thread has been going and how many of you know each other in RL. Hope you don't think I am nosey? Blush

Sorry if I have missed anyone. Happy weekend to all.

buzzybee123 · 09/02/2013 22:51

Euro (37), Mr is also 37 (but not for much longer). On my 28th cycle of ff (futile fucking). Diagnosed as "unexplained". Previously tried 3XLetrozole, 2xIUI and 0.5xIVF (cycle cancelled by us because of intolerable side effects to the drugs). Currently on the 2ww after our first natural IVF cycle and noting that time seems to be standing still...

buzzy About to hit the big four 0 Grin certainly feel or act my age Barry 39 TTC # 1 for 22 cycles, BFP first month April 2011 of trying miscarried @ 6 weeks, BFP in Sept 2011 miscarried @ 10 weeks, 2 x ERPC with 1 perforated uterus thrown in for free. Diagnosed with high NK cells5 x Super Ovulation with Gonal F, one SO with IUI. Fertility MOT showns low ovarian reserve, AHM says 1.1. taken goodness knows how many supplements, DHEA for 3 months, acu for 6 months, 16 cycles without not a whiff of anything and counting, moving onto DE IVF in May overseas, starting the adoption rollercoaster, next year I will be a mum by some means or other Grin

midnight can we ask what kind of foreign person you are, I'm a kiwi

sea so do you live 'abroad' or does MIL??

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buzzybee123 · 09/02/2013 22:52

ooops I meant Idon't act my age, Barry will happily confirm this

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seaviewasia · 09/02/2013 23:14

Thanks buzzy for the introducing you and Euro.

I'm sorry to hear about your TTC journey esp m/c. That must be v v tough. I can't imagine how painful it must be both physically and esp emotionally Sad.

I see you have had NK cells tested. Do you know if the clinics only tend to suggest this test if m/c has happened? Or could NK cells be present even if you have never been pregnant? I have been reading up about this but the info out there is quite confusing. Is it that the body rejects the pregnancy thinking it's something that needs to be fought off or could it actually prevent someone from becoming pregnant in the 1st place? Any advice or knowledge on this would be gratefully received.

I live in London and MIL lives in Italy. So is an Italian mama hence the coming in bed and babying Mr Sea. Smile

A brief background about me in case it's needed.
Me 35 - no issues, had hsg, lapo, ORT - all clear and good results, low FSH & high AMH. Mr Sea 39 - all normal
Diag with Unexplained Infertility
TTC 3 years & 5 mths
Never been pregnant.
Jan 13 - Had 1st IUI with Clomid & now on 2WW

sweetgrouch · 10/02/2013 01:27

Hi everyone. I guess it?s time for me to delurk too. I just started following the thread after Christmas when I had hit the 13 month ttc mark.

So here is a bit about myself, I am 27 and dh is 33. Our MD finally just referred us for more in depth fertility investigations after initial blood work and dh?s SA was normal but slightly slow.

So right now we are waiting for my opk to be positive so I can go get my progesterone level tested a week later. Then for AFs arrival so I can get a scan at CD3 and repeat all previous bloodwork.

This seems to be a supportive thread full of nice people that I?d like to join.

EuroShagmore · 10/02/2013 08:07

sea I think it's right that there are no symptoms really, but a lot of us on the Pred thread (that I used to be on when I was taking the steroids) who had high NK cells noticed that we rarely get ill compared to our peers. Most also either had repeated mcs or unexplained infertility.

I went out with an Italian for two years. Luckily mama was pretty hands off...

Hi grouch, welcome.

ThatWayMadnessLies · 10/02/2013 08:36

Welcome sweet and midnight. I too am sorry that you find yourselves here but it is a lovely bunch of ladies with a wealth of experience.

seaview I think that I would find the unexplained non-diagnosis really hard to manage and I totally understand why you would want to try IUI before IVF. And what is this nonsense about "at your age". My clinic keeps telling me how young I am at 34 Grin you asked how long the thread has been going. It started as a 6+ months thread and moved up to 10 months after we all hit a year of TTC I think. I was on it for some time and then disappeared for a year when I needed to spend less time thinking obsessing about this this stuff. I was welcomed back when I was ready and felt that I needed the support. Roughly that means it's been here just over 2 years I think??

Having been out on a very TTC unfriendly night last night which included a lot of wine, I am feeling rather tender this morning and annoyed that I am awake an hour before I need to be ....... Looking forwar to brunch with friends followed by what will hopefully be a brilliant rugby match where Ireland wallop England (apologies to all of you such of the border but MrM would divorce me if I didn't cheer for his team). Scotland's win yesterday led to a rather impressive number of happy people wandering around the pubs up here which was very nice Grin.

I will add my info....

Me (34) MrM (37) TTC 2 years 8 months, never a whiff of a bfp.
Ovulating normally, SA normal
Stage IV (severe) endometriosis finally officially diagnosed this year.
2x laps, Fallopian abscess drained last year in emergency procedure, right tube and some adhesions removed and cysts drained during most recent lap in December 2012. Much of the endo remains as removing it risked damaging my bowel.
Placed on decapeptyl injections and hrt to shut down ovaries and halt/shrink endo before starting nhs ivf in April.

Off to get myself organised and prepared for brunch with a toddler. Wish me luck! Happy weekend waves to you all.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 10/02/2013 08:45

Euro (37), Mr is also 37 (but not for much longer). On my 28th cycle of ff (futile fucking). Diagnosed as "unexplained". Previously tried 3XLetrozole, 2xIUI and 0.5xIVF (cycle cancelled by us because of intolerable side effects to the drugs). Currently on the 2ww after our first natural IVF cycle and noting that time seems to be standing still...

buzzy About to hit the big four 0 grin certainly feel or act my age Barry 39 TTC # 1 for 22 cycles, BFP first month April 2011 of trying miscarried @ 6 weeks, BFP in Sept 2011 miscarried @ 10 weeks, 2 x ERPC with 1 perforated uterus thrown in for free. Diagnosed with high NK cells5 x Super Ovulation with Gonal F, one SO with IUI. Fertility MOT showns low ovarian reserve, AHM says 1.1. taken goodness knows how many supplements, DHEA for 3 months, acu for 6 months, 16 cycles without not a whiff of anything and counting, moving onto DE IVF in May overseas, starting the adoption rollercoaster, next year I will be a mum by some means or other grin

Seaview 35 - no issues, had hsg, lapo, ORT - all clear and good results, low FSH & high AMH. Mr Sea 39 - all normal. Diag with Unexplained Infertility. TTC 3 years & 5 mths. Never been pregnant. Jan 13 - Had 1st IUI with Clomid & now on 2WW

lemon and SB 34 (nearly and just), TTC since summer 2010, unexplained, done 3x natural IUI, 3x SO IUI. BFP but mc on first SO IUI. Now qualify for IVF, but might stay on IUI for another cycle (or 4...)

Huge welcome to all the delurking newbies. You are very welcome, although sorry you find yourselves here.

Btw are you testing today euro? Waves and tailfeathers. Just an hour of work to do today, so if I get on with it, I have a lot of Sunday to play outside in.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 10/02/2013 08:48

X-post madness. Good luck with lunch with small people. I might organise that for me too, but I am choosing to do so, as they are some of my favourite small people (nephews).

I thought of something really profound I had to say, and now it is gone. So perhaps later. Or not at all Wink

EuroShagmore · 10/02/2013 08:54

drizz I decided to wait until tomorrow. That will be 12 dpEC, so gives a better chance of a real result. And Mr Euro will be around, unlike on Tuesday morning. The downside will be going to work afterwards, but I know in my heart of hearts that it will be negative, so I am prepared for it.

I got up to do an hour or so of work, planning to get it out of the way first thing, but someone has forgotten to check the document back into our doc management system, so I cannot access it. Grrrr.

GinSoaked · 10/02/2013 10:43

Oh joy bloody hell, I really really hope this all works out for you. It seems so unfair that things can still go wrong after an AC bfp. I have everything crossed that the twins pull through. You are with the best place for post bfp monitoring and I am sure they are looking after you, although I can't imagine how stressful all the waiting for tests results must be. I'll be thinking of you today. Do let us know how it goes. I have no idea how you have managed to work through all this. You are a stronger lady than me! X

I see there has been some controversy on Fred with hardcore viv! How v bizarre. Her posts were always a bit edgy and she clearly had some isshoos and possibly a whiff of BS, or maybe I'm just cynical. Anyone know what she did to get banned in the first place?! I'm intrigued! Like you all, I put down my deepest darkest feelings on here and forget that all and sundry can read, other than just my lovely Fred friends. On the other hand, I'd hate to think that anyone struggling with ttc couldn't read the Fred or get support they needed.

euro hang in there. I don't think symptoms/lack of means much, but I know what you mean about knowing deep down. Last time, I just felt pregnant and then it disappeared. I do wish I'd not been tight/scared of more needles and had the pregnancy blood test, as I assume that if my gut feeling was right, there'd have been some hcg present.

doll I hope you are doing ok too. Will you just be peeing on a stick to get your result?

pout the first ivf we did, we bought drugs as and when we needed them, but the second time we got the massive box delivery and it scared me shitless! We still have some leftover drugs in the fridge. My dad may be coming to stay, so I'm going to have to try to hide them some how, whilst keeping them in there! In fact, I'm going to have to do a ttc sweep of the whole house, to hide any paraphanelia (sp?!)... I feel like a ttc junkie!

sar we will indeed be FET hommies! I've just got a positive ov piss stick, so reckon the cycle will start in about 2 weeks. So you 're doing a natural cycle too? Medicated just doesn't make sense! Are you going to take any time off work? I may take a couple of days post transfer, if we get that far.

Welcome midnight and sweet!

lemons and euro, work on a Sunday?! Boo!

madness yay for a boozy night. I am looking forward to the game later (and the short shorts). Enjoy the brunch.

Sounds like you are managing your 2ww wait well sea. A few of us have met in RL, which is nice and I think another meet up is in the planning stages.

buzz I have friends who have kids who've never got a positive ov test! Are you testing just once a day? I'm not sure they are all that reliable and the clinic told me to test twice a day during the FET cycle.

rabbits sounds like you've made a sensible decision re treatment. And we'll all be here to hold your paw through out it.

Waves to artemis and princess. Princess you deserve a medal for living with PILs for so long and with pregnancy hormones!

Waves to everyone I've missed.

I am finally feeling much better and slightly less gloomy about ttc. We had a lovely night away, although I fell asleep at 9pm. Romantic eh? The bed was waaaaay too comfy! I reckon AF will be here in about 2 weeks, so we can crack on with the FET. I just want to get on with everything, so I can move on with my life. In a way, the not knowing if we'll ever get a baby is one of the hardest things. Anyway, hope you are all having lovely weekends. Anyone else fed up of this shite weather? Roll on summer I say!

GinSoaked · 10/02/2013 10:48

Oh and can someone add my stats please? I'm on t'i phone.

gin and Dave both 34, ttc 2 years 8 months too bloody long, male factor sub-fertility - very low count, poor morphology and motility ie 2 good sperms! 2 mild ivf cycles with icsi at Create and now about to start a FET cycle, with the 1 embryo we have frozen.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 10/02/2013 11:29

Hurrah, it is done. Well at least the part I really could not postpone any longer Wink. The other bit will be a job for during my commute to work tomorrow. I have spent about 10 hours doing work stuff this weekend and now it is enough. Outside and exercise.

Exciting you're both moving towards the natural FET cycles sar and gin. I'll keep everything crossed. Although the description of only two good sperms did make me smile

Sorry you feel like it is over euro. Wait and see. Sadly tomorrow is hideously busy again, so I won't be able to check on the result til night, or possibly Tuesday... Crossing stuff and in total agreement about finding out together rather than alone.

Waves and feather-shakes never thought I'd write that on an internet forum, or to be honest to write anything at all

EuroShagmore · 10/02/2013 11:46

Gin I didn't realise they charged for the HCG blood test. They didn't talk about it like it was an option I could take or not.