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TTC 10+ months Part 13

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buzzybee123 · 04/02/2013 11:56

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

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buzzybee123 · 12/02/2013 18:41

evening ladies

joy I'm still hoping for a miracle for you. Is Roy going to be with you on Thursday, I'm not exactly what area you are in but round here you can just turn up at EPAU, but a referral from your GP would be good. Adoption has improved in this country, will pm later.

sea MIL did mention that the woman in the bakery took two week off work after her IVF, I did wonder how they got onto the subject Hmm but just accept that most of Surrey must know by now.

nelly sorry about the annoying spotting and BFN

euro I wouldn't worry about the line not being darker, its only been 24 hours :)

ten nice to see you back, well you know what I mean

doll hope you are ok, not long now

madness and critter have emailed MIL but not heard back, critter love how you chose your name. Mine is a well known kiwi toy.

I did receive a lovely email from FMIL, I have to be honest and say I miss her and still wish she was my MIL, I am glad we have remained friends
Well CD17 and no ovualtion, which means I could ovulate really late and possibly have a very short LP, or that my body really just can't be bothered. I'm having too many 'odd' months now so I am thinking of stopping the trying naturally and just seeing what happens in May and getting on with adoption. I just realised I have wasted so much money on pee sticks and vitamins. I think we should just shag when we want again. I have also been feeling emotion in the last two days, email from FMIL made me cry.

me nearly 40, Barry 39, have been together nearly 5 years?? married for just over 2. He's not perfect but he is perfect for me Grin TTC for nearly 2 years, two miscarriages, diagnosed with high nk cells and now low AHM. Starting DE IVF overseas in May and looking into adoption. I'm from the 'land of the long white cloud' Barry is part Cypriot. Thinking of moving home. Work for the NHS but love what I do just not who I do it for :) We both love travelling, cooking and photography. I love crafts, sewing embroidery and knitting anything like that. We have one very spoiled little kitty who has been amazing for us.Life coaching has turned my life around.

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EuroShagmore · 12/02/2013 20:10

Welcome to the delurkers. Now we have some fresh blood on the thread, it is really time for a few long timers to graduate. Come on universe, sort it out!

Nelly how odd about the long time spotting. Maybe your cycle is still settling down post IVF? If you think it messes up just about every hormone level there is.

Critter it would be great if we are both on the way when we meet in DC! I had always wondered where your username came from. Now I know! The personal updates really are lovely.

joy I am so sorry that the beta isn't going the way it should. I do think buggering on as if nothing is happening with regards to work is daft. You really need to be kinder to yourself. The world will not stop turning if you call in sick and tuck yourself up in bed for as long as you need.

buzzy would you mind saving the adoption info you are sending to others somewhere? I am not ready to see it yet, but if this doesn't work out, we are planning to look into it.

Gin I had never seen a second line two days ago, and I was beginning to think I never would. However this turns out, I have overcome that particular hurdle.

I have felt very crampy this evening, like AF is imminent (it would be due today/tomorrow if EC day had been ov). Hmmm.

buzzybee123 · 12/02/2013 20:22

thinking very sticky thoughts for you euro its just your uterus getting ready for the next 8 months :)

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rabbitonthemoon · 12/02/2013 20:37

I am posting from the tent, via carrier pigeon. I mean I'm down and pissed off but not so bad I need to entirely retreat. I'm just in one hell of a grump. I have in fact been evil like this Angry and flung some over cooked pasta almost but not quite at Hare yesterday. It is thankful he has a sense of humour. I will enthrall you with top 5 reasons for my EVILNESS later.

I am loving the glimpses of the 10 plussers in Real Life. I know it is hard to do without just punching in your full name but it has been a lovely thing to find out stuff about you lot I didn't even know after all this time. For whoever asked, I do Bikram, Ashtanga, Hatha and Forrest yoga. I just mostly do yoga! It keeps me surprisingly fit. I am a runner in my head, but since the op last year it hasn't happened as it has been a slow healer and I still have complications with the scar, which tends to rebruise very easily and hasn't knitted together very well. Ah ttc, how I love thee.

joycep i second that you are incredibly strong. And lady, if there are people taking time off for colds at your place, your days off are well overdue! I wish I could make this all ok for you and it is rotten that amount of time, emtotion and cash is not repaid fairly in this game. All the virtual support I can send to you. If you wanted a shoulder to cry on, I could be on a train in a flash. I am still hoping beyond hope that there is good news for you this week.

euro this is all so exciting. Natural ivf works. And they said you had high nk cells. I am happy for you in bucketloads and also incredibly comforted by what this means.

critter I am going to have to look up those trousers.

Nelly spotting is the devils work. See below! Come and sit in my Ye Olde Tent of Spotting. How much fun does that sound! I have cocktails. And black toilet roll!

Buzzy your posts don't half cheer me up lately. Loving the baker story. Is your MIL actually my mum?

tenmonths I remember you. I'm glad we've helped. I imagine we are read by a lot of people who don't post. Hello people!

doll how you doing lovely? Agreed that we want you to stay here, whatever happens.

lemon we talk about how we might build our family a lot. And I can engage with it very well. Until I start to think that is Might Be Real. And then i get freaked out by it all.

gin you still in train limbo? Loved your you update.

madness wave. I am curious about who you were before. Were you always madness? (senile emoticon) no need to say who you were.

I really am fed up at the moment. I know it will pass, I've had a few of these slumps in the past 2 years. But here is my countdown, sing along the old top 40 music.
At 5 - baby news from friends I don't want to hear or think about
At 4 - recurrence of glandular fever feelings. Again. it's been 14 months!
At 3 - Hatred of all talk of IVF and IUI and my consultants pathetic advice that i could have got from a builder.
At 2 - my rabbit is ill. And old. Scared. Sad
At 1 - My womb appears to have packed in. Spotting started on cd21, 7dpo. 14dpo get period. with a nice 2 days off spotting for mentalling. Period fairly heavy for me, temps remain high even til today. Spotting continues. Get one day off and now on CD10 I appear to have my period again. This is INSANE. I felt pre-mentrual all weekend even though my period had just ended. And i didn't get PMT before actual period, or cramps during it. Temps tiny bit lower this morning and lo and behold I have a period I think. So what the hell was the big bleed? I have therefore had high temps for 38 days. I am properly disturbed by it all. I thought maybe the temps hadn't fallen because it was my period but i haven't kept a chart, I just take my temp now like it is habit. So I can't really tell what is going on. So now I think I have some awful hormonal issue on top of everything else. And there is NO WAY I'm diffed, I've bled way too much. I is pissed off.

But I did meet a 10 plus baby today and they were beeyootiful.

rabbitonthemoon · 12/02/2013 20:40

euro I think almost every grad on here has had The Scary Cramps. It must be so hard to not expect your period but remember it is very normal as your womb figures out it has a dual purpose! How exciting for your womble Smile. Sending positive superglue thoughts.

EuroShagmore · 12/02/2013 20:45

Er, high temps for 38 days??? Weirdy bleeding patterns. Have you POAS?

rabbitonthemoon · 12/02/2013 20:49

No. I'm most definitely Not Pregnant. Way too much bleeding. I think maybe the high temps are because I've felt glandular fevery? I am not going to be That Woman! I think I have just had a major hormonal disaster. Poo.

EuroShagmore · 12/02/2013 20:52

Hmmm. I'm sure futility friend says 16 days of high temps = you know what.

My friend who had IVF didn't bother to test because she had a normal period. They did a test when she went for the follow up to discuss the next cycle. And guess what....

rabbitonthemoon · 12/02/2013 20:54

If only it would be true. But so much blood. There can surely be nothing in there. It genuinely has not occurred to me that this could be a possibility. I will remain in the I Am Entering The Menopause mindset for self preservation. If I feel something kicking in there I will cave!

rabbitonthemoon · 12/02/2013 20:55

And I did have 18 high temps the cp month. That did not end well.

rabbitonthemoon · 12/02/2013 20:57

Oh I have totally got that wrong too. I have had high temps for 24 days. 14 after ov and now 10 more. Maths was never my best thing.

buzzybee123 · 12/02/2013 21:04

rabbit some women still have periods when pregnant, I had a fair bit of bleeding at the beginning of my second pregnancy. oooh was it kittens baby :)

I might join you in the tent as I am not ovulating and older so must be menopausal

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EuroShagmore · 12/02/2013 21:09

Ok, I'm not going to say anything more after this, because I don't want you to feel harassed, but I do think it is probably worth checking (for your own sanity now I have sewn this seed - sorry). 18 high temps=CP. 24 high temps=?

rabbitonthemoon · 12/02/2013 21:22

My bleed or period or whatever the fuck was going on was like a scene from Dexter. I can have a bath on my period usually with no fuss so was Shock and made a mess everywhere Blush. Oddly I am not blood phobic around my period, but this was pushing it. Maybe my thermometer is broken. I have booked to see GP to push for blood tests though as this isn't right and I don't think it's a lump of any sort. In the remote possibility I feel something moving I a few months time I owe you a drink Smile.

ArtemisTheHunter · 12/02/2013 22:00

Just popping on quickly to say Euro don't worry about the cramps, they are a Good Thing. The night before my blood test I was woken up at 2am by fierce AF-style cramps and was convinced that meant it was all over. Turns out it is your uterus stretching as the embie beds in. I have had them on and off ever since but particularly in the first 6-8 weeks. As long as cramps don't come at regular intervals like contractions and are not accompanied by bleeding you are fine.

Rabbit the bleeding does make it sound unlikely but those high temps are very suspicious and some women do bleed heavily during pregnancy - it's not uncommon to have a period-style bleed every 4 weeks. Worth eating a hob-nob just to satisfy your mine and Euro's curiosity?

I'm Angry I've not had time to post today. Work has been a biatch. Loving the non-ttc updates though. Hugs to all

sarlat · 12/02/2013 22:07

Rabbit - goodness me, goodness me. Sorry for the weirdy cycle, I agree that poas may be useful. Oh honey, sorry for the confusion.

Joy - thinking of you lots. I am glad you feel ok today but you can cry or scream on here any time.

Euro - hooray for 2nd stripey hob nob.

Buzz I am sorry for the late ovulation, all unsettling I know. Concentrate on your plans, you are doing amazingly. You being is mum is a certainty.

Nelly - sorry to you also for the weird cycle.

Me 33, nhs worker. I like music, larking about, red wine, prosecco, chocolate, seafood, seaside, junk and vintage shops and facinated by the Kennedy dynasty.

Hello to all

MuddyWellyNelly · 12/02/2013 22:13

Rabbit I'm certainly not going to encourage you to test after my arctic piss stick today, but I'll still watch with interest. I know what you mean though. When I started bleeding the day before my IVF test, lovely euro told me the story of her friend who had the IVF period followed by the IVF baby. But I know, for me, if it looks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's most definitely not a baby

I am now officially on CD1. Accompanied by nasty period pains. And wine.

buzzybee123 · 12/02/2013 22:22

sar I don't have a choice as it appears that every second month is a dud Hmm

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freedom2011 · 12/02/2013 22:38

Joy. I am thinking of you and sending you a big hug.

I am also in a corner quietly muttering sticky chants for euro.

rabbitonthemoon · 13/02/2013 09:00

Rabbits very bizarre hormonal trip continues. Today is technically cd11 and had red bleeding on and off all day which appears to now have gone back to spotting. Euro you did indeed plant a seed so I looked at lots of old charts last night. My pre ov range is 97.15-97.60 and post ov 97.75 to 98.5 temps have not fallen below 97.87 but aren't in their highest range. So I weed on an opk as that's all I have and it's a very dark positive. Confused now, it is possible I'm about to ov in what is a higher temp bleedy cycle. But no ewcm. I don't have sore boobs or feel 'pregnant' whatever that might feel like, no boob veins! So am presuming I'm having another hormonal blip and will monitor situation. How very fucking worrying. But I won't test til I've missed another period. As nelly says, I only get ducks.

TeuchterWahine · 13/02/2013 09:24

joy I'm thinking of you and really hoping there is a hb on Friday.
Euro I second Artemis on the cramps. Had the same thing for weeks. And best of sticky thoughts for you.
Waves to you all.

seaviewasia · 13/02/2013 10:21

Joy ? I am thinking of you. You don?t deserve this heartache. It?s all been said before. You are a v strong lady. I am hoping for a miracle for you and that they find a HB on Friday.

Euro ? You are having the blood test today no? Hope the cramp has improved. I am wishing for a sticky bean for you. We deserve some good news on this thread.
Doll ? Not long till your test date? Smile

Rabbit ? Sorry for the odd cycle. Weird cycles can really drive one crazy? I too love bikram yoga but I stopped at the advice of my consultant. Now just jivamukti, hatha or iygenar for me.

I have loved really all your non-TTC update. Great to read about your lives and not just TTC tales.

Mine ? Married 3 & half years, together for almost 7. I love yoga, reading and learning. I work for myself. Am doing a masters degree (was tempted not to in case I got pregnant, thank goodness I didn?t). I love cats but don?t have one as Mr Sea doesn?t like them. We made a deal that when I get pregnant I can have a cat and he can get a dog. Until then it?s just me and Mr Sea and my MIL(only now & again!)

Re TTC, I am afraid it?s bad news. I didn?t even get to my OTD (this Sat) ? feel cheated. My period came this morning. I haven?t actually done a test yet because I have no pee pee (had already been when period arrived). I know in my heart that it?s a BFN though? Not least because I have terrible period pains. Even though I knew the chances of getting a BFP through IUI was v small the 1st time round, it?s hard not to feel sad. There?s nothing like 42 cycles of BFN to make me feel really barren. Sad

joycep · 13/02/2013 10:36

Sea - oh I am so sorry. It completely sucks but they say you need to give iui 3 or 4 goes. That's of no comfort of course but now to think about the next one.

Rabbit - thanks for all your lovely words. I must say I want to jump on a train with an official poas and give it to you. Something almightily suspicious is going on with you and it's looking exciting and intriguing. But I know carrot dangling after this long is not helpful and it's often easier to assume the worst.. I thought opk measure LH not hcg or is it the same thing? I don't know how you can stand the not knowing mind you. Really really praying that sth good is going on.

Euro - af cramping is good. It's disconcerting but often just implantation pains. I spoke to several women on otd and we all had strong period pains and of course I thought I was on my period.

Waves to everyone and thanks for being so kind and supportive. Scan tomorrow but have quit with some of the drugs as I can't hack them anymore.

rabbitonthemoon · 13/02/2013 10:42

Sea I'm so sorry. I can totally imagine how Iui has raised hope and expectation. Big old hand hold. This will pass. There is a big fat yoga bolster cushion next to me in the tent if you want to pop in for an hour. Ah bikram and fertility how I've waivered. I am currently not going and haven't been in 2013 as I have spates of everyday and then not bikram and I usually lay off in dec and jan but will resume v shortly. My acu HATES me doing it and thinks it is Very Bad. I do think I'd be very wary if I did get a BFP as it is hot and so very sweaty but I LOVE it. The plan is 30 day challenge this Easter, we shall see. It is rather a time consuming sport though. Mostly I do ashtanga but I do fancy something new. What is this J yoga you speak of?! Is it the dance type one? And would you think womb yoga ridiculous?! Cos I am tempted. I also want to do anti gravity yoga this year.

rabbitonthemoon · 13/02/2013 10:46

Big hug joy.i loved your post about you and Roy so much. You are an amazing lady. I'll be so glad when this waity bit is over for you and you know what's going on. I'm not really understanding the opk/hcg thing. I did have a strong positive before my period in November. I should stop confusing things. I think my hormones have just shut up shop. I resolutely dont think I'm pregnant but I am worried as to what it all means. Random lh surges?