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TTC 10+ months, Part 11

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buzzybee123 · 05/11/2012 19:55

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

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mrsden · 13/12/2012 20:03

Pout, last time I had to get a passport it was really quick, much faster than the time they said it would take. That was for a renewal though, but I'm sure it's the summer months when they're busiest, so you never know it might come in time. Might be worth paying for that post office checking service and then at least you won't get it sent back because something is missing on the form. I reckon it's always worth having a passport, just in case!

mrsden · 13/12/2012 20:07

Good luck for tomorrow madness. I'm sure it will be fine, I'll be thinking of you.

akuabadoll · 13/12/2012 20:09

Just on to check on you nelly so sorry to hear you are bleeding. You have done so well. I can't hang out here at the moment but also wanted to send good wishes to madness for tomorrow. I'll be back soon, I'm busy acclimatizing for Christmas on the rainy isle - working on Syrian border and it's bloody freezing.

rabbitonthemoon · 13/12/2012 20:30

Right time for some loving and tail preening in here. I am distributing time in and out of the tent.

First for a luxury blow dry is nelly. I'm so sorry nelly. I was so hoping for you. But I echo what everyone has said here. You had a much better response than expected and you can do this again. Now you get to drink to your hearts content. The best pissed I ever was was on my wedding day. Tipsytastic loved up euphoria. It can now be yours. I think you have been incredibly pragmatic adm I'm so glad that Mr N sent you that email. I hope your period pains aren't too evil and send you bucket loads of love.

madness all the very best to you. When you can, let us know how you are. I'll be thinking of you.

euro glad the scan went well. This is good! Sorry about the odd cycle. I'm a bit of a veteran with those now. The op truly has fucked mine up. I wonder if for once flying has messed around with things? Is there a poss you could have ovd earlier due to flying etc?

mrsden Kylie can be on my list. Lisa Faulkner can be on there. The criteria is really pretty strict!

joy sorry about the unhelpful mum comments. Not time to think about adopting yet. My mum appears to have told the entire town I grew up in that I am a barrener. She told me that someone I went to school with had had a fourth degree tear and was incontinent. I despair at their mum tittle tattle!

sar I'm glad you are doing nice little things. The womb fluttering must drive you batty. And what a shit rude nurse to say that! I am constantly amazed at the lack of empathy in this way. I never get womble flutters. I'm currently not speaking to my womb!

pout I made the decorations! They were easy peasy. I got fimo, rolled it, cut it and then doodled on them. I got stripey thread from eBay for cheaps and they look really pretty cool if I do say so myself. Arse about the passport. I'm sure it will all be ok and it's just a formality and it can wait a bit? And when Hare got his passport it was lightning quick this time.

critter I'm liking the sound of a blue crisp winter. It has been like that a bit here lately but my scar ache tonight tells me the rain is a coming.. Do you think an egg did hatch?

art there is always a home here for you, I'm loving hearing your updates and you are one of the glitter knob gang! I'm so heartened to hear that there is indeed a blob in there doing it's lovely blobby things Smile

doll you re going to be in the UK! Hope things aren't too hairy over there. Did your cycle come back? And how are you feeling?

Wave to buzzy and gin and all 10 plussers, grads and lurkers.

I don't think I had a cp. In October I had a considerably late period with 18 high temps and a normal lp of 12-13 days. This period was bang on schedule but the spotting has been concerning. It's been pink and watery and for at least 5 days maybe more. I suspect it is the aspirin after googling. My period has been shockingly red and a lot but then over v quickly (2days) and back to pink spotting. Eek - hormone failure?! Who knows about the opk. I never did one then before. Curiousity got the better of me. But anyway, I'll neve trust it again as telling me anything! Tying not think about what it means. Too much lh st wrong pint in cycle Confused.

So. On paper we are a subfertile couple with no clear known cause in spote of red herrings and an acutely tilted uterus which on last scan was no longer as acute but just good old fashioned tilted. Fsh was a bit borderline at day 5 so clearly my eggs are, as to be expected, 36 years old and looking it. But it was still normal. Do I do clomid and maybe an IUI or am I just wasting time and should I go straight for IVF? I don't know. And I don't trust my cons to know either. But 2013 is time. Gawd.

rabbitonthemoon · 13/12/2012 20:32

I mean my normal lp is 13 days and I got an 18 day one. I hate reminding back and realise you made no sense.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 13/12/2012 21:20

Evening lovelies!

So so sorry about the bleeding nelly. I concur with all that has been said before. Have a fab wedding and an ironic pre-next-round diff. Big hugs and biscuits.

Wonderful (and sharply contrasting) news about the beating blob artemis. Huge - although careful - congrats. Do stay as long as you like and spread the sparkly nobbly happiness. Oh, and well done on the job!

What a pain about the passport pout. But surely this is solvable. Shall I call the clinic in a stern voice (it usually works Xmas Wink ) for you?

So sorry about the doom and misery, and difficult mums, times etc. Joy the story about your mum depressed me, that would be difficult. I cannot believe so many people are actually in/near/diffed post- IVF. It is a strange thought. But it helps...

As for me, I had an incredibly productive counselling session on Monday, so despite still stabbing (for a single sluggish follie, which I would have produced without any side effects anyway) I am a lot nicer to live with. It even lead to some SFF :).

The cycle is turning out to be a bit of a pain, as there is only a single follicle left, despite stabby side effects, and apparently the odd womble thing is a tiny polyp, which at this size should not do anything, and we would never have known about, if I wasn't being scanned all the time. As for trigger and IUI, I have another scan tomorrow to hear whether I a) trigger tomorrow on the way home from a work trip halfway across the country, IUI on Sun or b) trigger in peace on Saturday, and calling in sick on Monday, while there is an important work meeting, or coming clean in my new job about AC. Joy. I am currently hoping for train stabbing. But...

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 13/12/2012 21:21

So sorry also about the aunty visiting on your birthday rabbit. I cannot believe how messed up your last year has been. Really hope the next one is better.

Oh and euro nice men killing (I am keeping that typo). At least it seems like stuff is happening. The Create numbers look good!

buzzybee123 · 13/12/2012 21:34

nelly so sorry about the bleeding, big hugs

euro that is an amazing AFC, who did you see??? They didn't question my nk cells, I would be frustrated if I had great results and no explanation as to why it wasn't happening, we might be starting around the same time :)

mrsd one step at a time, all of this IVF is getting you one step closer to what you want :) unless this is your month . . . vf'

joyI hadn't thought about what I had achieved which is lot - education travel interesting employment, lovely husband, a home, cat etc the only thing left to achieve is a baby, it is easy to get to caught up in what you don't have not what you already do have

pout surely the good old British utility bill is good enough, can you get a signed photo from maybe your GP or similar, you need that to get your passport, although your passport might turn up before, I have had that in the past. How is the flat hunting going?? Sorry about Mr P's behaviour, not going to help any situation

madness I'm sure all will go well for you tomorrow, just take something to eat for afterwards

art so pleased about your scan Grin

doll look after yourself

sar you need to think of this as your last Christmas together just the two of you :)

gin I found your teabagging comment funny

Not much to report from my end, we should be starting shag week but neither of us are really in the mood, we did try yesterday but failed, not helped by us both laughing and the cat Grin oh well we'll try again, to be honest I think we would prefer the DIY IUI, right now Grin Saw a dog dressed in a santa outfit Smile

We have told MIL that we are looking into DE or adoption she said we had to do what we felt was right and that they would stand by our decision which is good to know, well waves to anyone I've missed

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lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 13/12/2012 22:07

Your job sounds crazy doll. Keep safe and then enjoy Christmas. Sorry the sadness about the cycle got to you even under your circumstances!

Buzzy with the list of things to be proud of - impressed - and grateful for, I think you may need to include you MIL. She sounds sensible.

Oh and I love tone lowering gin and others. I miss princess for random tangents and sweet and funny essays. (Waves if you're lurking).

Massive good luck for madness even though you probably won't see it until afterwards. Make sure you are spoiled for the next week or so. Nice to have your mum waiting on you hand and feet!!

Waves at sar, joy, mrsd and all the others. I miss the leaving grads too, so I think people should hang about here as long as they like!!

rabbitonthemoon · 14/12/2012 09:44

Um I've just seen someone at work who has a big bump - I had no idea. But wasn't sure if it was really a bump or perhaps cake induced. No, it was definitely a baby. I ignored its prominence and the whole chat was massively awkward. I was so close to congratulating but I know she's been trying for years via another gossipy colleague so didn't want to put my foot in it. ConfusedConfused

rabbitonthemoon · 14/12/2012 17:09

Thread killer with my bump dilemma!

madness hope all went well.

Today has been filled with babies and bumps and Christmas and I am not pregnant, not even a little bit, not at all. Sigh. But! I have broken up. Which is most excellent now, as I used to often say, "where is my wine?" Xmas Smile

rabbitonthemoon · 14/12/2012 17:10

Be prepared for thread hogging and cluster posts from here on in. Thought I'd settle in and start now.

CritterPants · 14/12/2012 17:20

Xmas Grin rabbit!

MuddyWellyNelly · 14/12/2012 17:39

Haha rabbit give me time to open the wine and cut up the Rocky Road :)

Test was definitely negative. Oh well. On the plus side I now have 5 weeks off work Xmas Grin. Although the arrival of my period was shit, I have decided it was better than it would have been if I'd heard the news cold over the phone. So today, I am ok.

CritterPants · 14/12/2012 17:49

rabbit you are a funny bunny indeed. Xmas Wink Breaking up sound nice, it's been an incredibly busy term for you! I'm sorry to hear about the bump, but it sounds like it was a hard-earned one. I so agree that 2013 is time.

buzzy dogs in santa outfits are always quality. They often have a sort of resigned expression which cracks me up. Over here lots of people dress their dogs up for Halloween - daschunds in hot dog outfits, etc. Never fails to amuse! That's amazing that you and MrB had such a good conversation with MIL and that you have that family support behind you. I really believe that you're going to be a fantastic mum, in whatever way your path takes you to that point.

lemon did you have your scan today? Did they tell you when you need to trigger? One follie is perfect, I'd have thought - one is all you need! Really hoping you catch a golden egg.

madness good luck today - I hope it all went really well and that you are safely resting with hot chocolate and celebrity magazines. Was thinking of you and wishing you positive thoughts this morning, hope you felt some of it coming your way.

pout ha, the only times we've had fails have been when I've grandly announced that 'it's time', so I totally sympathise with poor Mr Pout. Icy pavements are not fun - happy dogs and downhill slopes and ice sound like a recipe for coming a cropper. I always wonder how elderly people manage in the winter as I find it hard enough myself to stop skidding about!

sarlat a pre job minibreak sounds like an amazing idea. Can you get away with Mr Sar for a weekend, maybe somewhere lovely and cosy in the countryside with a spa, where you can have Irish coffees by the fire and have massages? You really deserve a little pampering. I am sorry you're having to work in the cold on top of everything else. Poor you. Xmas Sad I have everything crossed for a 2013 where you get everything you wish for. And I know you'll be brilliant at the job and at managing people. You are so clearly an extremely empathetic person, which is something they can't teach on management courses!

mrsd has the spotting continued? how are you feeling? I'm sorry this is all so stressful. And I'm grateful that I'll be IVFing with lovely ladies like you - will be so good to have the company in the new year!

Waves to all. I have a Christmas party to go to tonight and am planning to wear my most sparkly of short dresses, a la gin, and have lots of lovely mulled wine and rosemary cashews (my friend, the host's, speciality).

I still don't know if I ovulated. I had a lot of CM and a temp rise, but that isn't unusual for old PCOS-chops here, my temp chart goes up and down all the time. If it stays up, then maybe something has happened. This may sound ridiculous, but I am a bit pissed off about it tbh, as MrC was away all week and so if it was the first au naturel egg to hatch in years, it won't have had a chance to fertilise. I feel like now I have one more thing to stress about. At least if I knew the old ovaries had definitively shut up shop then I wouldn't be fretting about whether messing up my 'natural balance' all over again with IVF was the right thing to do or not. Xmas Confused It's just like the little buggers to mess with me two weeks before I'm supposed to start back on the pill, after having had months and months to sort themselves out. Grumble. Where's the Scrooge emoticon when you need one eh?

ArtemisTheHunter · 14/12/2012 17:52

Xmas Grin Rabbit at bump induced thread killing. Enjoy the wine Xmas Smile

Nelly I'm sorry about the final negative but glad you are feeling OK today. 5 weeks off work, that's fantastic. I am a bit Xmas Envy after a hopelessly long week, but glad you have the wedding and honeymoon and seasonal excitement to look forward to.

I am naffed off this evening. Mr A came home from work early for no obvious reason and since 4.30pm has been laid on the couch drinking beer and watching 'Man v Food' on Dave which has to be the biggest load of shite since, well, all the other shite they show at this time. I suppose it's up to me to go start making tea now I've finally finished my 10 hour day. He's been a right knobber lately, I am feeling unloved and ignored Xmas Sad Xmas Angry. I suppose it might be reassuring (or not) to know that being a little bit pregnant doesn't impede your partner's ability to act like a complete twat Xmas Hmm.

CritterPants · 14/12/2012 17:52

nelly my love I'm so sorry. This just stinks. I wish you'd had an IVF 'hole in one'. But you're going to have an amazing wedding, you're marrying a really wonderful man, and you'll be able to try again, clutching our clammy paws, in the new year. Big hug. Wine and rocky road sound like a wonderful idea.

On a side note, I am intrigued by this Christmas rocky road talk. Is it really as good as everyone says? Is it worth me buying amaretti and brazil nuts specifically for the purpose of making it? I am tempted.

CritterPants · 14/12/2012 17:57

art I am sorry that MrArt is behaving badly. Could you ask him if he'd make tea tonight, given that you've had a 10 hour day? And if he won't, could you ask him to order you nice takeaway? He'll probably be defensive but if it were me and MrC was doing that (as he sometimes does) I would not be happy at all. In fact we'd probably have a steaming row so maybe I'm not the best person to offer advice. Just wanted to offer sympathies. Man vs Food is indeed shite, if strangely compelling in a revolting way.

ArtemisTheHunter · 14/12/2012 17:58

x-post Critter. I do find the temp charts impossibly hard to interpret even without PCOS so it must be doubly frustrating for you. Those ovaries are teasing little buggers. Party sounds terrific - hope the sparkly dress and mulled wine takes your mind off ttc.

I am [fshame] that I forgot to say hope all went well Madness and that you're feeling OK, especially as that's what I originally logged on to say!

Pout I also meant to send sympathy over the nekkid ladies on Mr P's phone. Mr A has been salivating over that Beyonce perfume ad (the one where she looks like she's about to get it on with a wall) and because I am feeling fat, boring and unattractive it's really bugged me where usually I can shrug that kind of thing off. Pah.

ArtemisTheHunter · 14/12/2012 17:59

Critter another x-post but thank you for the very helpful advice. yes, instead of grumbling and expecting him to read my mind I shall go and order him into the kitchen request his services in helping to make tea. Thank you Xmas Smile

Poutintrout · 14/12/2012 18:23

artemis Commiserations on the hubby with lazyitis. MrP came after a few days with Mummy and seems to think that I am the live in maid. It's most annoying and if he leaves anymore rubbish out on the side I will shove it where the sun don't shine. I would second feigning preggo exhaustion insisting MrA does the dinner.
Ah the neKkid ladies, I'm still fuming. I'm not bothered if he watches porn but he could just be a bit more respectful by being discreet. I think what really pissed me off what that it was some "artistic" site called Kind Ladies?????????? I mean what kind of man feels a bit horny and thinks I know, Kind Girls is just the ticket. I despair Grin

rabbits woohoo for breaking up for Chrimbo.
Can I ask what you used to decorate the tags. Did you use the paint marker she suggested?

lemons I did giggle at the thought of you phoning the clinic!
How was your scan?

critter hmm at rosemary cashew nuts. Enjoy the party.
I'm sorry that you feel fed up about ovulation. Our bodies really do like to take the mickey.

madness thinking of you today. Hope that all went well.

buzzy sorry about the sex fail...at least you were both laughing about it not crying! DIY babymaking does sound good though I am too chicken to try. Well I suppose that this is a good time of the year to buy a turkey baster and give it a whirl Grin

nelly I am sorry that it was a negative. You are being super amazing about it all. Definitely see it as a practice run, enjoy your wedding loads and have better luck next cycle.

mrsd good idea about the checking service. I was also thinking about taking a copy of the application and all the supporting documentation and taking that with me to the first appointment along with as buzzy suggested utility bills & tenancy agreement. Gah, I can't believe that I need a passport to have a blinking baby. That takes the piss!

Well I've a busy weekend planned which is good because I'm coming to the end of the 2ww and I find this the worst time for mentalling. We're viewing a house tomorrow & also Christmas shopping for my nephew. I also stupidly have decided to handmake my presents for my sister and Mum (birthdays and Chrimbo combined for both) so have left myself a stupid amount to do. I really had better do it too because I have ordered some expensive gorgeous buttons off the tinternet and if I don't use them MrP really will flip. He is already a bit annoyed that I didn't bother listing me balls on ebay... apparently if you want to start a craft business you actually have to sell some stuff Grin

rabbitonthemoon · 14/12/2012 18:45

There you all are! I'm snuggled on the sofa with wine Smile my rabbit is sat under the Christmas tree.

art you should be waited on tonight! I second the idea of a takeaway for one Hare secretly loves man vs food. It makes me feel actually sick!

nelly sorry abut the negative. But yay to 5 whole weeks off. Make the most of every second of wedding and honeymoon and know that there is the next time which may well yield the egg of goldeness.

Talking of eggs, does anyone else here get ov type pains about a week after af and a week before ov? I always do and can kind of predict when I'll ov due to it. It is a follicle moving along?

sar I think critters suggestion of Irish coffee and fire is spot on. And agreed at your empathy qualities. Loves.

pout I couldn't find those paint sharpies. So I got regular fine permanent sharpie. They didn't bloody dry so I painted them with mod podge and all is good. I really like them. I love your craft buying and not necessarily always using. The craft stash is as important as the finished goods! Grin 2013 is the year of my own patchwork quilt.

critter rocky road is like tiffin I reckon but has become a Christmas tradition t our house now. The nigella recipe makes LOADS and I freeze some of them and keep wheeling them out at various Xmas food things. I don't like marshmallow so leave it out and shove various items into it I fancy at the time. Popping candy went down well last year. Except with one of hares little cousins, it made her cry

Following on from buzzys poor Santa dog I have a new things you do see at Christmas that made you feel a bit wrong. Today in Tescos oop north all staff were dressed as elves. As I wheeled my trolley into the clothes aisle hunting for Xmas hats, I caught an elf with his tunic hoiked up moving his balls from one leg of his tights to the other leg. The balls were as clear as anything Shock I reversed my trolley with much haste and inner mirth.

rabbitonthemoon · 14/12/2012 18:47

God, what if this is actually my egg prematurely popping out? I never shag now, it always feels a bit uncomfy post period. Mumsnet does bring out my over sharer.

CritterPants · 14/12/2012 19:53

art I hope that MrArt is making you something yummy as we speak!

rabbit Xmas Shock [fschock] Xmas Grin at the ball-arranging elf in Tescos! That is hilarious Xmas Grin and made me snort my tea. Sofa and wine sound perfect. I'm still at work but things are very quiet and I'm not getting much done. Grin at the popping candy in the rocky road, sounds delicious but I could imagine it being a bit of a surprise if you weren't expecting it!

pout exciting about viewing the house, I love open houses, but I know they are more stressful when you're not just having a poke about but are actively considering moving there! I'm super impressed that you're making presents - I love getting handmade things. I have a quilt made by MrC's uncle's estranged wife for us when we got married - it was a bit odd as she wasn't invited to the wedding - but I absolutely love it. Presents mean so much when someone's made them! I hope it's a nice stress reliever and not too much of a faff. I made a Christmas angel for the top of our tree and am stupidly proud of it! Grin at Kind Ladies, the mind boggles!

rabbitonthemoon · 14/12/2012 21:21

pout kind ladies sounds like v tame porn!?

My egg moving pain is very bad indeed. My ovaries just keep throwing out evil curveballs of annoyance. If I actually am ovulating on cd6 there will be rages. Weeing on stick to check shortly.