TTC 10+ months, Part 11

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A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

This is probably a stupid question but are all these scans in ivf to look at the follies, internal ones?

Not sure my sign off met MN etiquette

Gin bloody Grrrr to ERTD. I feel for you so much. Pub crawl sounds like a solution.

Joy, bloody hell the IVF is coming round fast.

Good for you nelly . At this stage I had 3 with two question mark ones (one too big and one too small) my small one never bothered growing but the big guy slowed up so I ended with 4 of the right size. Sounds like you should have at least 4. You're getting there girl.....

Yes mrsd the good old fannycam....

Mrsden do a test! Bloody hell I'd be going mental.

Yes, all internal - TV. I'm getting like (who was it? Euro? You?) and whipping my knickers off the minute I'm in a treatment room.

Kind of interesting as in mine they have a tv screen (that's television this time, not trans vaginal ) at the end of the bed. I've seen my bladder bowel uterus and ovaries. Allegedly.

Doll 4 would be amazing. I would feel like it was 2 fingers up to the doom and gloom AMH doctor. He's still a bastard .

Gin I worry my reply was insensitive. Of course a pub crawl isn't a solution . Just a temporary sticking plaster. Re finding out what went wrong, I've seen on others threads tests about lining being out of phase etc. not suggesting that's an issue, just that there are other avenues to explore. I hope your clinic are pro-active but prod them if not. Big luffs.

sarlat I completely understand how agonising this decision must be. It seems so illogical that removing a reproductive part might help us reproduce!

joy how long did it take to get your greek test results? My sample should reach them today.

Gin spending December drunk sounds very therapeutic. You sound very balanced about what happened. Poor Mr Gin. It sounds like he is really hurting though. Would it be worth looking into the sperm DNA frag stuff? That can apparently explain why apparently good embies don't last past a few days.

Nelly that is great news!

mrsd it's possible, but I got a big temp rise, which suggests there was a corpus luteum releasing progesterone. Bizarrely, my temp didn't drop properly until yesterday and my period normally arrives the day of or the day after the big drop. And I was due yesterday/today. So my temps seems to have had a normal length cycle but my bleed was completely out of synch and started Monday! I'm glad the migrane has gone. Sore boobs and a long cycle, you say....

too 'allegedly' and wiping knickers off. At least your bloke isn't eyeing up the loos....

Mrsd sorry missed your other post before, well well interesting. Are you proper late?

Would you believe it? Threatening to test has spurred the witch into action. Just been to the loo and wiped and there was blood. I'm so used to it now, I'm not bothered. This is now officially the starting ivf cycle. It starts with a scan between days 21 and 25 and then if all ok and sp is agreed I'd start injecting on the start of the next cycle. Onwards and upwards. Because my last two cycles have been long it shouldn't clash with Xmas closings.

Nelly yes, that was me. I think at this point if I had to go to the GP about an earache, I'd whip 'em off and assume the position.

at whipping your knickers off. Im a little prudish, I guess I need to get over this. My last gynae was female but at this clinc they're all male I think. I know it shouldn't matter, I'll get used to it. They also all wear tight ( and I mean tight) white jeans. It's like their uniform. I'd send you a link to the website if I wasn't afraid of outing myself.

We really could write an hilarious book about our infertility adventures from ths thread.

gin I really am so sorry, if you want a drinking partner I am around, big hugs

nelly yay to the follies :)

mrsdsorry AF has shown up but now its onwards and upwards as critter would say, I take you are doing LP?? glad your migraine has gone, I do have a surplus of migraine drugs that I am happy to share with you (I know I seem to offer my drugs alot on here) But it I have quite a few and it would be cheaper than buying so if you want to PM me I am more than happy to send them
I am a bit like a squirrel really

art and doll ooooh when are your testing days, are you going to wait for offical testing or POAS??

euro at your whipping knickers off and assuming the position, dignity isn't a word I associate with anymore

mellow fingers crossed for your scan

critter I hope you are having a lovely thanksgiving weekend, ummmmm yummy pumpkin pie :)

sar sorry you are having such a tough time, it is such a big decision and nnot one you can go back on later, I would have to agree with rabbit and madness about it hampering chances I personally would want it out, but it has to be the right decision for you, you still have time to think it over.... don't rush, I usually do a pros and cons list, it has been a tough road but my mother is a nasty toxic and dangerous person so I am better off without her, it has been rough road to get to where I am lots of tears, fears and counselling, I struggle to cope and accept peoples kindness, I am not used to it and it makes me feel uncomfortable but that is something I am working on, I just wish I had started this process years ago really, I feel so much happier in myself and I am learning so much about myself too

Well we are mid shag week, should end tomorrow, I said to Barry on Wednesday we'd have one more crack at it this week to which he put his head in his hands and groaned I said surely shagging me isn't that bad, maybe it is
Anyway I went to Create for my AHM, £105 bloody hell , I had to wait for half an hour so now accept that they work on Greek time, the nurse called me like I was some dog 'Buzzy come' I am very obedient, she was nice and reassuring, she told me due to my other results that she wasn't going to lie and tell me my AMH results will be fine, she said they would be low, but you only need 1 follie and that they have had successful pregnancies with women with AHM's under 1 and that they have had 48 years old so not to worry about my age.
When you pay after I had picked myself up off the floor they have lots of photos of their IVF babies on a board and made me smile and think one day my babys picture will be up there.........

I'm off work today, and need to get with all my life coaching homework, I'm a good two shoes and don't like to leave it till the last minute........

waves to lemon teu medussa hope are ok

Buzzy it's good you are prepared re your AMH. The only clue if had was a very slightly elevated FSH. I was therefore stunned. You sound in so much happier a place now. Like you I feel I've dealt with a few demons as a result of this shit.

I've just taken off the plaster on my arm and I look like a junkie . I've had 4 blood tests in 8 days in the same spot. I hope the bruises all heal in time for the wedding. If I get to EC (see, still can't believe it) I think I'll have to make sure they try to use hidden spots for the cannula. Although I could just blame bruises on MrNelly my hobble

nelly my FSH,LH and E2 have been fine and Shehata wasn't worried, it wasn't until I went to Create for my MOT was the issue raised about my results being poor, but then its all about business and making money,

Evening all - well late afternoon really but it's so bloody dark that it feels like the middle of the night.....

at whipping off knickers and watching our insides on telly. Before this surgery I had to have a flexible sigmoidoscopy twisty camera up the colon and it was ally disconcerting to be looking at that part of my anatomy on a screen!! I'm pretty relaxed about assuming the position in clinics now - I even tidy everything up before regular consultant appointments just in case

joy I'm fairly calm about the lap just now. Feels like it's been a year waiting for it to. Finally happen and I just want some answers and to feel like I'm making real progress. I know that I can't carry on failing every month and not rally understanding how severe the endo is or what it's affecting. Apparently the cysts are about 7 cm on both ovaries so sounds extensive but everyone keeps saying "but we won't really know until we get in there" so just bloody well get in there already!!!!

sar hope you're doing alright and taking care of yourself.

mrsden I don't think that tight white jeans would fill me with confidence somehow

Waves to everyone and here's to relaxing weekends with lots of for those who need it.

Have to run to dinner with my mother. Wish me luck!

Gin ? like mrsd i?m just so sad and gutted for you. I just find with this thread , we?ve all been chatting here for so long now, I just desperately want all this to work for everyone and see everyone on their way. I am sure Mrgin is just trying to be manly about it and you?ve mentioned in the past that the tears flowed over a few drinks once so i?m sure he?s trying to be strong for you. I?m appalled that FET is so expensive though. All the hard work is done and they just need to put it back. But it?s all the same story. Anyway as others have said, FETs are often more successful so Gin, there is still hope there. Big hug and i hope you and mrgin have something nice planned this weekend. Booze sounds great.

Buzzy ? that?s reassuring to hear they ?ve had tonnes of success with amh less than 1. I have to question what it all means. I have noticed on FF that quite a few people?s amh dropped like a stone over the course of a few months ? where as it?s suppose to drop about 6% worst case scenario over a year. Some then leapt up a few months later which it?s not suppose to do. It?s good to be prepared though but great that Shehata is more interested in your other hormone levels which are normal. Yippee. I certainly wasn?t prepared for such a shocking amh drop hence why I cried all the way home and i had people staring at me like a mad woman. Sorry to hear the terrible difficulties you have had with your mother but I?m pleased you are coming out the other side. My friend?s mother sounds similar and I know the effect it has had on her.

Nelly ? I?m so thrilled about your latest scan and compared to this time last week, it is amazing. May the little nellies continue to thrive.

Mrsd ? sorry about af but i?m glad you didn?t waste an expensive test. I?ll be quite a few weeks behind you i think as i think i?ll start down regging around 20th Jan although all the monitoring will start in a few weeks.

Euro ? that?s really weird about your temps only just going down. I don?t suppose you tested just to see if showed anything? it does sound very sadly like you had a CP. It took about 10 days before I got my results. I was getting very itchy feet and kept emailing them. Not sure why as it took 4 or 5 months before i actually got round to taking the pills. I am waiting with interest to hear if they find anything with you.

joy I might still cry when I get the results, i'm on the DHEA not really sure if it will help the quality of my eggs

Gin - tight tight hugs. I am sorry Mr G is sad. Time is the only healer. Don't plan any next steps just yet. Allow yourself this week to grieve and to laugh and to hug and to drink wine. That is all that is needed for now. The rest will fall in to place, I promise. I don't think repeated BFN's with AC feel better or worse with time. For me I just feel like I am in no mans land for a couple of weeks. Then some days you wake up and it's not the first thing on your mind anymore. Aw sweetheart, you don't deserve this pain. Thinking of you.

Nelly - I am going to say it again "I bloody knew i". So now it's '5 star' we need to concerntrate on. Go Nelly Go. 2 fingers up to Dr doom merchant!

Thank you to everyone who commented on my tube question. I am letting the upset run away with me, I know.

Rabbit - I am impressed with your plans to shelve TTC for a while. What a brilliant idea. I am tempted to ask if I can put some of my ttc rubbish next to yours on your shelf if you have the space? Maybe you could slap my hands if you see me reaching for it. . I am going to try. My reflex lady has suggested no shagging for a couple of months to try and release me from the wicked spell of waiting for a BFP. Also she has been researching for me a homeopathy treatment especially for blocked and dodgy tubes and she wants me to start using it. I think it works on emotional and physical levels. Thank you for all your kind words Rabbit - I was worried that my distress was starting to piss everybody off. I am a bit of a broken record aboat the moment.

Madness - your comments about yours and my situation were very helpful. Thank you for taking the time. I know this is a terrible thing to say but on a few occasions I have almost wished I had had an eptopic pregnancy which would have resolved this issue for me and the tubal situation would have had to have been dealth with. When you talk about the pain and trauma that you have been through I can 100% feel why you would be comfortable at removing the bad tube - because it has brought you upset and illness and it is a threat to your future health. I think you are making the right decision without doubt. It sounds like keeping your left tube is very likely. And I have everything crossed that this will be the case. I suppose the main reason for my distress is that although I understand how leaky tubes can be bad for the embryo, because I have no pain, problems or illness as a result of my tubes (other than subfertility) I find it hard to marry up what they are saying could be wrong, what they are proposing to do to me and the healthy body which I feel I live in (if that makes sense). But everybody is right - all I can do is wait and see what they say after the lap.

Buzz - the clinic sound like they have a good attitude towards the AMH result. I am not convinced by AMH testing at all. I think it is one of many things to consider, that is all.

Joy - those antibiotics have really done something haven't they. I will keep my fingers crossed for something to happen this month. And if it doesn't then - horray for moving to IVF. You have excellent chances and once you are in the process, it will feel fine. We are all here my lovely.

Mrs Den - Sorry af arrived. But another IVF'r steps forward. I have everything crossed for you. Hope you are both feeling ok about it all? Remember to plan nice things during the downregging and stimming phases. Got to the cinema loads etc.

Hello everyone, thanks for all the Thanksgiving good wishes! Sorry in advance for the short post - a lot of family stuff (not bad, just that there are always people around) over the past day or two has come in between me and my MNing!

gin I am so sorry about this, again. It's just shit and I so wish that you didn't have to go through this. There is hope with your little frosty, I just wish it wasn't so expensive, it's so unfair having money thrown into the mix. I think you are coping fantastically. I just wish you didn't have to.

joy it sounds like we'll be IVFing about the same time. Will be good to have a paw to hold.

mrsd exciting that you're starting so soon. I did at the tight white jeans though. Reminds me of that song in 'Legally Blonde: The Musical" - 'Is He Gay Or Just European?'

Much love and positive vibes to art and doll. Not long now, hope you are surviving the wait.

nelly it's amazing how your follies have picked up the pace - I love sar's 'I bloody knew it' comment. Let's go little nellies! Let's go!

sar we are never pissed off with you, it's bloody hard this decision. I do feel for you. You have been amazing with the IVFing - I am so grateful for your wise and kind advice when I first realised that it was IVF or bust for me - and this board is here so we can support each other.

rabbit I think a break could do a power of good. It's been actually really good for me to take the autumn off pre-IVF. I know I won't get preg so I've been able to concentrate on other stuff, like my hobbies. Gentle hand squeeze. I think you're amazing.

euro sorry about the weird cycle. It does sound like things have been different for you, cycle-wise, recently. Maybe a good sign? Not long now until IVF.

madness an abscess sounds incredibly painful, I am so sorry that you had to go through that.

buzzy you did make me laugh with your description of your mister with his head in his hands.

Waves to those I've missed...

We cooked the turkey yesterday chez Critter and drove it to MrC's family gathering an hour and a half away for lunch. Miraculously, the turkey survived intact, tented in foil and nestled among lots of tea-towels as padding in the boot, but the car still whiffs of it! I've had a lovely day off today with MrC. We've been grazing on leftover pie and drinking beer and napping. I do love a four-day weekend.

mrsd I'm not particularly prudish (although I don't think anyone is 100% at ease with someone peering up their chuff), but I am, or rather, used to be, very nervous around hospitals. I would avoid dr visits at all costs. The whole environment makes me feel nervous and vulnerable. After the two minor surgeries I had before this, I was a bolter. As soon as I am round from the anaesthetic, I was saying "canigonowcanigonowcanigonow?" driving the nurses mad. When they said I had to eat and pee first, they then got "foodpleasefoodpleasefoodpleaseFINISHEDcanigonowcanigonowcanigonow?". I've got a lot better simply out of familiarity, but I still hate it. I think it is the vulnerability and lack of control over the situation that I don't like.

Thanks joy. I suppose I'd like the results before I go off on my hols, so I don't come back to potentially "bad" results (I'm expecting them to turn up someting - it seems they do most of the time). But it doesn't really matter, because I wouldn't start the antibiotics until the next cycle anyway as of course we want to be free to try on hols (I've heard "relax and go on holiday and it'll happen" so often that I want to believe it, even though I have already been on holiday during ttc several times to no avail). BTW, could you not drink on all the antibs or just the ones you were on for the first few days? I am mulling over whether to take them over Xmas - that would be our only cycle between holiday cycle and potentially starting IVF with Create.

There is a hiccup with Create though. The Korea trip is looking increasingly likely - for the week our Create MOT appointment is booked. Hmmmm.

Nelly I've seen your timing thread. That would be less than ideal, but all will be well. I ended up not having a trial for my hair (mess up with the bookings) and she still did a fab job on the day. What are you supposed to be doing at the venue on Saturday? I suppose you just have to think positive - from thinking you would never get to EC to having a potentially inconvenient transfer day is definite progress!

Gin how are you doing?

Critter the weekend sounds blissful! Maybe it is positive that something happened. The only bad thing is that I am now wondering what caused it. The things I have changed recently are the new needles lady and giving up wheat. I was planning to start back on the wheat in a few days - it was just an experiment - but of course now I am wondering if that made the difference. Was it joy that posted something a while back about wheat and fertility? If so, is there any chance that you could repost? I cannot find it. But anyway, it has got me mentalling thinking.

Quiet on here - hope that means everyone's out and about having lovely weekends :) I've been at my desk today writing a tender [pissed off face] so it's about time I had a little skive to catch up. Lots going on.

Nelly really pleased to see things have progressed with the follies and hoping for further good news tomorrow - it's definitely quality not quantity as a comparison between me and Doll will amply demonstrate.

Sar you have a really difficult decision ahead. FWIW if it was me I would have the tube taken out if they knew for definite that it had a hydrosalpinx that was impeding both natural conception and IVF chances, but you're a lot younger than me and you can play a long game. I would definitely not want to have both tubes removed though. However until you have the lap you don't really know what is going on in there so you can't make a decision based on full evidence. On that basis I think you're right to wait for the results of the lap before making such a major decision. It's a horrible one to have to make though. Sorry, I'm repeating things that others have said far more eloquently!

Mellow FX for the viability scan, hope everything goes OK.

Mrsden sorry that the witch appeared, the threat of testing does that for me too. at the tight white jeans!

Euro I liked your take on the continual investigations, I'm similar. I've spent my life avoiding doctors like the plague but I've just voluntarily (and expensively) gone through a hugely invasive and intimate procedure on the basis of no medical diagnosis. It's still horrible, but I don't find it as humiliating as I used to. I keep telling myself that the nurses doing the fannycam is just the same as me writing a report. On the wheat thing, If you google coeliac together with infertility you should turn up some info. Coeliac is severe gluten intolerance and there is a link with infertility.

Buzz the life coaching seems to have done wonders for you, I'm amazed at how far you've come. It must have involved a lot of work. Hope shag week went OK, poor Barry. Mr A tends to react that way too though since I have been on an IVF related sex ban for what feels like forever he might have changed his mind by the time this is all over.

Joy it does sound as though the anti-bs have sorted something out. Hoping for an ironic pre-IVF diff for you.

Critter your thanksgiving weekend sounds lovely.

How are you doing Gin? Been thinking about you for the last few days.

I am counting down the days until my blood test. This last week has been fairly horrible. I'm managing not to do too much mentalling but the wait is hard. The main cause of misery is that the progesterone suppositories have played havoc with my digestion - it completely shut down for several days and since then has veered between the two extremes, iyswim. I feel bloated and horrible, my stomach sticks out like that of a 1980s famine victim or a preggo though on the plus side that's stopped me from imagining any abdominal weirdness qualifies as A Sign. And I'm hating not being able to do my normal amount of exercise etc. If it's a BFN on Wednesday (clearly the most likely scenario) obviously I'll be gutted but one big consolation will be to have my body and my life back. I feel like I've been inhabiting an alien life form for the past 6 weeks, my body is not my own, I am sick to the back teeth of being prodded and poked, and IVF drugs have played havoc with my emotional state. I just want to feel normal again. Rabbit I'll be joining you on that break until such a time as we get to the head of the NHS IVF queue and the whole rigmarole starts again. That's not likely to be until next summer at the earliest but i can't imagine wanting to start again any sooner, and if the next one wasn't a funded cycle I'd be questioning whether I could face going through it all again.

Waves to everyone, hope you've all had lovely weekends. Onwards and upwards for another week

It is quiet on here artemis! Hopefully everyone is snuggled up inside, away from the rain and having nice weekends.

artemis I know exactly what you mean about getting your body and life back. It's nice to not have to shove things up my arse or do evil, bruising injections. Hang in there. Not long to go, although I know the last few days are the hardest.

nellie yay for the follies! I saw your other Fred re timing. Yes, the trigger shot has to be taken 36 hours before collection and a 3 day ET is most common, although it could be 2 or 5 day. I was told specifically to rest for the afternoon after ET, so would recommend rescheduling your long drive. I was sedated tho, so that may've been why I needed to rest... Oh and all my bruises had healed within 2 weeks, so you should be fine for the wedding.

mrsd please, pretty please, can you dm me a link to your clinic's website. Tight white jeans? Sounds ace! I totally hate getting my fanjo out for anyone. I was 28 before I was brave enough to have my first smeer and it was getting my bits out that was one of the things I worried about most re ivf. Tbh I still prefer females doing the dildo cam, but all the gynaes at the clinic are male, so I've got used to it. I figure they see so many lady bits a day that it must be like looking in an ear or something. If I can do it anyone can! And they have to turn the lights off for dildo cam and give you something to cover yourself with, so you don't feel naked.

buzzy which nurse did you see at create? I really like the nurses, even if they do struggle with my veins. Hope you got mr b in the mood. As others have said, I've been super impressed at how you have turned things round and how positive you are. Respect to you lady!

doll hope you are doing ok.

critter your weekend sounds lovely and is definitely well deserved! Hope you enjoyed the rest of it.

euro that's annoying about the work trip clashing with the appt, but I'm sure they'll be able to fit you in another time. A trip to Korea is v exciting! Would you be able to take time to do some site seeing?

Waves to joy, sar, madness and rabbit and everyone else.

Once again, thanks for all your lovely words and support ladies . My period started with a vengeance yesterday afternoon, after a day or so of head fuckery spotting. It's soooo heavy and pretty painful and my ovaries hurt! Guess it's everything settling down, but I can't help looking at the clots and wondering if they're the embies...

Anyway, I'm feeling kinda ok, considering. We've been babysitting this weekend, which has meant I've had no time to sit around moping and being back at work helps hugely. It makes me feel normal again and that nothing has actually changed in my life, despite all the bfn grief. I'm trying to see this as one step closer to getting a child, rather than further away. We will get there, even if it ends up via adoption.

We're waiting for a date for our follow up appt, but I suspect that they just won't know why it didn't work. As far as i know, my womble lining was good (they saud it was triple layered?) etc. It could be the sperm fragmentation thing - we discussed this with the consultant but she thought there was no point testing as dave's was likely to be high and they can't do much about it. There's not really any point now, as the FET aside, we can't afford any more ivf, so it's adios to dave's sperms.

Anyway hope you are all ok. I'm off to find a hot water bottle and chocolate biscuit...

Hi Art. It is super quiet on here this weekend. My dh is away so have been on my own checking in periodically to see if anyone's about. It must be so difficult to wait for the blood test. The 2ww on a normal month isn't as bad anymore for me because I really don't expect to be pregnant but I'm sure it would be completely different on an IVF month. I still have loads of hope for you, but I do understand not wanting to get your own hopes up. I too try to expect the worst in the hope that it will make disappointment more bearable. That said, you shouldn't give up yet!! I haven't seen any fat ladies around here and I definitely haven't heard anybody singing

I've spent most of this afternoon helping my mother return all of her a**hole ex-boyfriend's stuff to him. So relieved that she's seen sense and ditched him. Won't go into detail on here because would out myself for sure, but would be nice to stop worrying about my mother's incredibly dysfunctional relationships on top of everything else

FX for tomorrow Nelly. Here's hoping for more good news!!

Waves to everyone else. Looking forward to hearing about lots of lovely relaxing weekends.

x-post Gin

Sorry that AF has hit you so hard. It really seems like if life were fair periods for those of us who are struggling should be light and pain free. It always seems like adding insult to injury when they're heavy and painful..... Glad that you're able to look forward and that going back to work has been helpful. A friend of mine at work miscarried after her first round of icsi (now has a beautiful little baby thanks to her second round) and she said that while it was hard to be at work it definitely helped. I often feel like I just want to hide under my duvet but I know deep down that that would actually make me feel worse. I'd just dwell on the negatives and overthink everything. Here's hoping your follow up appointment is soon and that they can help you make a plan for where to go from here.

Hello Sunday ladies.

gin hug about the period, agree that it is yet another thing to be endured after the roller coaster building up to it. I think you are doing incredibly well and I'm in total admiration.

art your two week wait has felt long to me so gawd knows how it feels for you. Sorry the prog has mucked up your stomach, feeling bloated is horrible. Nt long now lovely.

supernelly good luck for tomorrow, those wedding plans must be gearing up a notch now, you have special powers!

sar loads of room on my shelf of shit for your things, I've pushed them up there right out the way over the festive weeks

madness sounds like your mum has been through a lot. I bet you feel so glad for her that she is moving on. I don't think love gets easier with age does it?

mrsden sorry about ERTD being a tease. It always feels hard in those last few days.

doll are you at a similar point to artemis? I have been thinking of all of you doing ivf and I'm amazed at your capacity to get on with it. I will so much more of a baby. Hope you're ok.

joycep interesting about the antibiotics! Did they make you feel ill?

critter well done on turkey transportation. I'd love to do thanksgiving one day. Please can I come next year thank you for your lovely words.

buzzy it's been inspiring to see how you have turned things around. I'm sorry things were tough for you.

Well, not 'trying' is being very nice indeed! Don't get me wrong, there will still be trying but in the traditional sense of shagging without contraception and nothing more. It has been nice to:

Sff - say no more.
Drink without worrying I'm pickling this months egg or indeed an egg brewing for the the next 6 months.
Not take my temperature.
Stop thinking about it every waking second.
To notice I'm prob about to ovulate and shag in spite of my egg, like fuck you egg, I'm not doing this for you

And it feels good. This weekend has been full of lovely things including a roast miner out with family with wine and I haven't drunk wine on a Sunday for a very very long time. Yum yum, roast beef, all the trimmings and big fat glass of red. Followed by fancy pudding and a lazy afternoon. I've also wrapped the majority of my presents (international posting waits for no man). three weeks to go and I've got two weeks leave. And after that, at some point in jan, I will ring Dr Big. Bt until then, bring on Christmas. Now, where's my nigella Christmas book...

Luffs to pout euro and anyone missed, lurkers and grads.