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Rainbow Babies. Making it through the storm, missing our Angels, loving and hoping for Rainbows.

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RainboxFX · 11/10/2012 09:22

A shiny new thread in memory of our angels. To bring us all BFPs, sticky beans and healthy happy Rainbows.

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missamel · 20/11/2012 03:38

Kleine Congratulations on your pregnancy, what a wonderful early Christmas gift! Amazing!

Blue congrats on your beautiful new baby :)

I had a bit of good news today...I finally got an appointment at a wonderful clinic in Toronto, I will be flying there in three weeks for lots of tests and a preconception consult. I was so happy that it will be soon!

AngelGeorgie · 20/11/2012 07:25

Kleine fab news xxxxx so happy for u xxxx
Blue fab story xxx though I have to say having a home birth is my idea of hell!!!! I ve lovely laminate floors I'd hate to ruin!!! ( wink) but so glad everything went so well for you & so quick... Huge congrats xxx
Little good luck today xxx
Mooomins excellant 27 weeks wow ... Not long now xxxx
Hi to all shattered here Phebs coughing ++++ ant had her at home yesterday & took her to drs . They re happy with her just think its mucus but its a nightmare as I m averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night. Slept downstairs on my sofa last night as she was doing my head in . Know she can t help it but with work & this I'd just like some un interrupted sleep...
Boiler excellant ; nice & warm again & hot water is fabulous..
Lovely news xxxx
Miasmum I was exactly the same ad you worrying as I approached my section date if Phebs would come early & I just so wanted everything to go to plan so to alleviate some of the stress...
Phebs stayed put as will Mias sibling ... Take it easy now ... Wow ... Only 2 weeks xxxxx
Love to all xxxxx

AngelGeorgie · 20/11/2012 07:26

Missamel good news on your appt xxx

fanjodisfunction · 20/11/2012 08:44

miss I'm so glad you have sorted out an appointment.

little good luck

moomins you've come so far, 27 weeks.

I'm feeling like a very horrible person, I am over the moon that many of you are pregnant and some of you have had your rainbows. But I'm just feeling very left out and ultimatly alone. I'm finding this very hard to write, I don't want to come across as selfish or that I begrudge all you lovely ladies. I'm just feeling mixed emotions of guilt, jealousy, also utter dispair that I'm still on this journey. I wasn't going to write this but I think I should. You lot understand don't you? Please I don't want you all to stop writing about your lovely babies or that you have your BFP, this isn't my thread its ours but I just needed to write this all down.
I think I'm very emotional at the moment, I ovulated a couple of days ago, but I'm just not motiviated to do anything about it. We have SWIed but we should have last night but I just couldn't. I'm sorry to be posting this, I don't want to hog the thread with my drama.

Love to all.

amyboo · 20/11/2012 09:10

Congratulations to kleine. Fingers crossed your bean sticks. And that sounds like a lovely birth blue. Hope you and Lotta are getting on well.

Fanjo I don't think you're being selfish at all. It must be really hard for you to watch everyone with their rainbows. Honestly, I don't think any of us will think badly of you for having those feelings, as I think they're completely normal. My best friend is due her DS2 on 20 December, and I've been having similar feeling tbh, even though I'm now pregnant with DS3. Sending you lots of hugs.

I've now been signed off for another 2 weeks - until the end of November. So, I have no idea if I'm going to be able to start my new job on 3 December yet, or if I'm going to have to sign my contract then hand in a medical certificate... A scan on Friday showed DS3 has grown and is still happy. The blood clot thing is still there but didn't seem to have grown which is good. Am now losing a it of brown blood, so I hope my body is getting rid of it all... Next scan and appointment is on 30 November. Fingers crossed.

KleinePoppet · 20/11/2012 09:11

I am going to come back again later, but i just want to reply to the very lovely fan.

You are absolutely, by no means, a horribly person. Neither are you in the slightest bit selfish. (You are the woman who crocheted gloves for wtw's little K... don't think we didn't notice that. It made me cry, that you'd done such a lovely, unexpected thing.) You are a wonderful woman in a beyond-horrible situation. You NEED to be able to express your emotions - your very normal emotions - here. If not here, then where? It's lovely to share in others' news and joy, but it's just as important to share in the darker emotions. I don't know if I'm the person from whom you want to hear all of this today... I was extremely aware that my post yesterday would create mixed emotions for many people on this thread.

Please, my lovely, continue to be honest on here. What you are going through isn't 'drama' - it's almost unbearable. Everyone on this thread understands that, and everyone here is wishing and wishing and wishing that you - and blizy - will get your babies very, very soon. Obviously hope that for everyone, but for you both, you've been waiting so long...
If you can, try not to feel guilty about the emotions you're having. I'd be incredibly surprised if you WEREN'T having them.

So sorry you couldn't swi last night Sad Really so sorry. Hopefully - it sounds like - you'll have hit the right days beforehand.

Sending you ALL my love (and I'm a bereaved mummy - that's a lot of love). Huge hugs my dear and keep posting xxxxxxxxxxxx

fanjodisfunction · 20/11/2012 09:33

Thankyou amy and poppet

I think poppet your news tipped me over the edge, I'm wondering if maybe I should leave the thread for a while. I feel like I have been here for yonks and everyone keeps graduating other than me. I don't express myself very well, I couldn't mention it to DH last night which might be the reason why I just couldn't SWI. He knew I was upset but I don't like him to think that I begrudge any of you, and I didn't want him to say maybe you should give mumsnet a miss, I need to make that desision by myself.

I am really truly happy for you poppet.

KleinePoppet · 20/11/2012 09:46

Oh lovie. I am just so, so sorry.
You must do what you need to do, of course. But if there's anything the rest of us can do to help - whatever it is - please just say. I hate the idea that somehow you are being chased away Sad I know the others will echo me in saying that we'll do whatever we can, whenever you want to be here and whatever you need.

You honestly don't need to be happy for me. It's so sweet that you still manage to say that, in such a sad post, but, if it means anything, I would prefer that you let yourself feel the other emotions too. Sweetie - it ISN'T fair. It SHOULD be you before me. I agree, I understand, and I wish it had been your turn a long, long time ago.

(I expect someone else will be along soon to say something else. I know it can't be me, at the moment, to offer more help.)

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Whatevertheweather · 20/11/2012 09:57

Oh fan my lovely lovely friend you are the least horrible and selfish person I have met in a very long time. Kleine is right to mention K's gloves - what they don't know is that you also crocheted some for me, that you have made little hugs for poorly children in hospital and that you crochet squares for every woolly hug blanket. Incredibly unselfish and giving. You would have to be truly super human and made of granite not to feel sad and a bit desperate each time you hear of someone's bfp - on here and in RL.

So so many bereaved mummies completely shut themselves off from pregnant women and those with newborns - you haven't done that, you've faced it all head on and been a phenomenal support on here. I totally understand if right now you need a break from that. It must be so hard. But just know there is and always will be so much love and support for you on here. Whatever stage of the journey you are at.

Make time to talk it through with DH. Get him to take the reins for a while. Maybe show him what you've written here. You've been so strong for so long. I cannot tell you how much I hope it is yours and blizys turns next.

Lots of love xxx

Little9 · 20/11/2012 12:31

Oh fan. I would like to echo all the previous posts on here. You have been the most supportive and unselfish person I have had the pleasure to "meet". You always seem to know what to say to jolly people along, even when it must be so hard with everyone else getting bfp's and rainbows. I always think of you when they are posted and wish with all my heart that it will be u next. If you feel you need a break, then do. But if not, then we are all here to offer any amount of support you need. Big hugs to you, xx

fanjodisfunction · 20/11/2012 12:38

poppet please don't feel that it is your fault that I feel this way, I think over the past few months all the annoucements on here, the birth of blues beautiful Lotta and hearing from the consultant that there is nothing wrong, its just all got too much. Its not a competition nobody deserves to be pregnant before the other, I truly am happy for everyone, I'm just not happy within myself. I think I need to step back and maybe be a little selfish, and look after myself, I think maybe I've put to much into everything and havnt looked after me.

I'm going to have a little holiday from this thread, maybe even from mumsnet. I will be back, I have to know how you are all getting on but I feel I need a bit of me time.

So I shall say goodbye for a couple of weeks, waves to all.

Bluetinkerbell · 20/11/2012 13:10

Remember fan I got my BFP during my break from MN during Lent!
Thinking of you, big hugs, you know where we are when you need us x

spilttheteaagain · 20/11/2012 14:14

Oh fan my lovely, my heart aches for you. You have always been so generous and giving, of your time, your energy, your emotions. I don;'t pretend to know what sort of hell you and blizy are going through month after month so will say nothing that might be trite or patronising. Only that if it didn't hurt and you weren;'t jealous then you maybe should check your pulse! Normal normal sounding reactions. I wish so much that it is yours and blizys turn now. I hope a break from here helps. Look forward to seeing you again soon. Much much love xxxx

spilttheteaagain · 20/11/2012 16:03

And happy birthday to blizy! Hope she's having a great time in Vegas Smile

KleinePoppet · 20/11/2012 16:19

fan I think you are wonderful, and very sensible. I hope that taking some time away is helpful. You are totally right - you need to be entirely selfish, and look after yourself at the moment. Really look forward to seeing you back here again, whenever it's right for you. So much love and have some Thanks too xx

I have missed quite a bit... sorry to anyone who I forget by accident.

little how was the scan today??? Let us know if you can...

blizy I know you're away but just wanted to say, LOVE the FB pics! You look like you're having a great time Smile I'm so glad. And, yes, a very happy birthday to you! Have some Wine for us Smile

angel hurrah to having heating and hot water again, but poor Phebs. I suppose she must pick up lots of bugs at nursery - it's unavoidable, really, isn't it? But horrid for her, and yes I can imagine that it's not exactly fun to listen to her coughing away, either. Sending her lots of get-well-soon wishes xx oh and I hadn't seen a pic of her, until you put up those photos on FB the other day. GORGEOUS. And I loved how she is staring into the camera in some of them, looking perfectly at ease, but refusing to smile. The girl's got attitude - I like it!!

blue I'm so glad you're having such a wonderful time with Lotta. She is EXACTLY as gorgeous as Ella, which is really saying something! Well done you on the birth - and it sounds like your midwives really ensured that everything went smoothly. Home birth would no longer be an option here, if we ever get that far, but it's lovely to know how well it worked out for you.

mias I should confess that, as I have such a childish sense of humour, I did chuckle at you saying you thought your waters had broken but it was a false alarm... Grin But I am very, very glad that your waters are still intact, and that all is well. think of you so often. Nearly, nearly there. I cannot WAIT to hear all about your new arrival in due course. We already know that he or she will be impossibly gorgeous - after all, we've seen the results of combining you and your DH, and it's incredibly special. Beautiful Mia... I am so looking forward to hearing about her new sibling.

wtw hugs to you. Will Holly be back upstairs in her basket tonight? A big step...
And how are you? Any update on your working hours, when you go back - or is it definitely going to be full-time?

elly I was so pleased to read that your appointment went so well - the consultant really does sound excellent. Hope you're feeling much better soon, back on the ADs.
Have been thinking of you; have you seen your friend's new baby yet? If so I hope it was as gentle an experience as possible.

missamel I have been thinking of you too... it's lovely to see you again. It sounds like you've had the results back (whether it was a post mortem or not, I can't remember, but obviously you know more about the placenta now) - I'm so sorry... Of course, like the others, I can only emphasise that you've done NOTHING wrong. But we all understand the guilt. Keep posting about it, if it helps - we've all been there.
So glad you have the appointment coming up in Toronto, too. I hope very much that it calms a few of your worries and helps you and DH to prepare for ttc.

green a big hug for you, lovely lady, and hoping so hard... well, you know. I'll always be hoping!

rainbox how are you doing? How is work treating you? How have your cycles been? I know they were regular before your op, then went a bit awol Angry but I v much hope that things have settled.

babyh hi my dear! How are you doing with the decorating, and more importantly, with waiting for AF to come - which, obviously, I hope it doesn't...

moomins I'm so glad you're doing so well. It's obviously been a smoother ride so far than you'd feared... long may it continue (well, not too long; just long enough). Fundal measurements are indeed funny things; E was estimated to be huge, firstly, then too small and needing extra growth scans; then when she came out at 42 weeks she was 7lb1oz... so, bang on average. That said, perhaps you are growing a gorgeously chubby little fatty in there Smile Lots of love xx

spilt hello broody lady Smile and well done on the BF training - what a worthwhile thing to do. I did Grin at your clean-the-loo advice - a good idea!

amy SO glad DS3 is doing what he needs to do in there. Also, that you're still signed off - even if it's making you worry a little bit about the new job - this comes first, doesn't it, and obviously your doctors are on top of things. Keep us updated...

Thanks for the lovely messages. Still getting my head round things; it's not sunk in yet. Have been in touch with our consultant today, though, and am clear on the initial steps that we need to take, if all continues to be well (aspirin, anti-emetics as soon as needed, appts with high-risk midwifery team as and when).
Now have to tidy up, the boys next door are coming over in a few mins - though quite why I'm tidying up in advance, I'm not sure...Smile
Love to all xxx

KleinePoppet · 20/11/2012 16:21

babyh that post took me about 45 mins, too! So sorry about the one of yours that got eaten... grrrrr indeed. xx

Moominsarescary · 20/11/2012 16:37

fan really don't know what to say, I think everyone else has said it all. I really hope that soon it will be you, know that we will all be thinking of you xx

kleine can't remember if I've said congratulations? Well congratulations I'm so pleased for you.

Had a look in my notes last night and at the 20 week scan he was mesuring average for 24 weeks so maybe just a big boy! Don't know why this surprises me as ds1 was 11lb 2!

KleinePoppet · 20/11/2012 16:47

Shock at 11lb 2!!!!! Grin xx

MiaAlexandrasmummy · 20/11/2012 17:02

fan we will miss you, lovely lady, but yes, time to concentrate on you.

missamel I don't think I have greeted you properly. Everyone here is lovely, and it is an incredibly supportive place.

Feeling quite unsettled. Just had the 38 week scan and consultant appointment, and it appears that baby has had a massive growth spurt of 800g in the last two weeks... Now estimated at 3.8kg (8.4lbs) which has prompted consultant to request another GDD test this week, as a precaution, as i don't have any other symptoms. Which means I can't attend a meeting with the hospital (different one) about improvements and its failures to date. A total juxtaposition of choices between Mia and her sibling. I hate it, I feel I am letting her down, even though I know it is the right choice. Sad

And they weighed me too- I have put on 20kgs - almost 3 stone!!!! I was horrified. How much does a placenta and amniotic fluid weigh?! My only hope is that I must have been bigger with Mia (never weighed myself) and I lost most of that quite quickly...

Little9 · 20/11/2012 17:51

Oh wow, Congratulations Kleine. So so pleased for you. FX all goes well for you.

I am pleased to report that I have a very wriggly little one inside with a good heartbeat. Sooo relieved. Also, they measured shrimp at 10+4 which is a week further along than I thought therefore one week less to worry about. Yay!! Grin. Am now due on 14th June (BIL's birthday and day before DHs birthday). DH pointed out that due date is now even closer to the date we lost Daisy (17th June), which is going to be bizarre if we get that far.

Hugs to everyone, xx

KleinePoppet · 20/11/2012 18:53

little fantastic news Smile
How complicated about the due date, though - nothing about this is easy, is it?

mias huge hugs.
Can I say what your post made me think - to be entirely ignored by you, if unhelpful?

It didn't sound like it's simply a question of a juxtaposition of choices between Mia and the baby to me. Rather, it sounded EXACTLY like being a mum of two. One of your children needs some medical attention (however non-urgent it may be), and so, naturally, you have to cancel what you are doing with the other child, however inconvenient that is. You would have done the same if Mia was here, and you'd planned something with her. You're a soon-to-be mum of two, performing an amazing balancing act xx
I am so sorry you'll miss the meeting though. Can anyone represent you there? Can you email some thoughts through in advance, request minutes, etc?

AngelGeorgie · 20/11/2012 21:26

Fan my sweetie ... Take care , enjoy your life & take a break. Although I c got Phebs now before I was pg with her I found it incredibly difficult to witness/hear about other's pregnancies. So hope it happens for u & Blizy soon xxxx
Happy bday Blizy xxxx
Little yeh.., fab news on your scan & whoop to being an extra week along xxx
Kleine thank s , indeed she is gorgeous & a proper little diva!!!! Rarely smiles for the camera , too busy watching it!!! Work a total nightmare at the moment ... Heating is fab & FX Phebs starts picking up soon... Hope u re ok?
Hope everyone ok? Crap stuff at work but at least tomorrow is my day off , thank god xxxxx

blizy · 21/11/2012 06:58

OMG Kleine, fantastic news for you, Dh gas asked me go pass on his congrats. I really am so happy for you, I have everything crossed and wish you a very boring pregnancy.

Fan, my lovely you know I am always a pm away if you need a chat. I am so sorry you are feeling so down, I do k ow how you are feeling and can totally sympathise. I hope the break does you good. You gave been so very supportive to me and others here, you are a truly lovely person and not being selfish at all. Remember I am here any time. X

I am having the most amazing time in Vegas, it us do surreal!
Promise to catch up properly when I'm home. Hole you are l well, thinking of you. X

Ellypoo · 21/11/2012 11:50

Oh kleine such fantastic news!!! Congratulations!!!!!!!!

I'm sooo pleased for you!!!

Am going to read all and catch up now, just wanted to say that!!!

Ellypoo · 21/11/2012 12:43

fan, you are soo supportive of all of us on here, you are fantasticand generous and thoughtful and it's totally normal that you are feeling like this. I found it hard enough learning of others in RL with BFPs when I was TTC, so I understand a little of how you must be feeling. And you are totally right to put yourself first - you certainly deserve & probably need it. Take care xxx

Still not seen my BFF's baby - been really poorly this week, so haven't been able to go.

Hi to everyone xxx