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Thought we could do with a new thread since the old one is full.

jolly is it bad, or spotting type situation?

Hope your ok jolly x

Sorry to hear that jolly. Surely your epu will let you self refer now?

A little bit of brown on wiping. I'm bracing myself for worst as this is exactly how first miscarriage started. I'm far too early for scans etc so will see what happens over next couple of days .

You could get your hcg levels checked at the gp? Really hope it's nothing sinister this time.

I know you know this already, but it doesn't have to be bad news. My friend at work had bleeding at the same time I did, hers was much worse and lasted a lot longer, she is still pregnant. I know this doesn't really help, been there, but try not to worry if at all possible...everything is crossed for you.

Oh jolly I've had brown bleeding on and off with this pg. Turns out I have a clot which is working its way out. That may not help, but I do know how you're feeling and am here for hand holding.

breaks out the emergency dairy milk

I had some brown spotting too jolly and I'm still going, fingers crossed for you.

quick i went to the pregnancy test thing in manchester. it was quite interesting. i just had to do a couple of pg tests, fill in a questionaire and got paid for it!

jolly i had some brown spotting the other day but i don't think i have had any since. i am not worrying about it as theres nothing i can do about it anyway. i know thats easier said than done but it seems to be working for me this time. when i had my brown spotting in the last pg i was on the phone to epu in tears every couple of days. i think i have had that many let downs now that i am thinking what will be will be. doesn't stop me knicker checking all the time though. begining to wish i was brave enough for public checking lol!

pebs paid to poas that's a metallers ideal world huh!

i was living the dream!

ah pebs if only I had a pound for every time... :) how are you feeling atm?

jolly what kind of bleeding? are you ok chuck x

I feel weird after my CP, AF is pretty much over but I still am a bit crampy and boob twingy and knackered. I had a nap again yesterday... though today I think i will be ok. I guess the hormones are still settling? Dh and I have decided we want to dtd anyway this month (as an expression of 'pure love' as one thread poster has put it! snort) so might as well accept our ttc journey is a bit twisty-turny and get back on the ol' horsey. Soooo, hurray! feel much better, thank you for listening to my whiny sadness.

am not going to test early again. DPO 13/14 (LP is 12 days without fail) is when am allowed to test, so if I do have a BFP I should have a good line, have missed AF and be 4 weeks pg. No faint lines, then getting AF ever again :(

Can I ask your advices please? If I make babies relatively easily but they don't stick, or are blighted ovums, is there something wrong with me or is it something I can fix at home? if we ghave up alcohol, would it help? we drink one night a week and do get quite drunk. Am wary of self medicating with agnus castus or baby aspirin... but not yet keen to see the dr. Maybe if I have another CP or two... or are Cps just one of those things everyone has?

anyways, less of me. be well peeps x

i am feeling fine thanks wilde. my 'don't worry until there is something to worry about' strategy is working well.

i had a bit of spotting on sunday but that has gone now so i am not going to worry about it.

i think i am treating my first scan as the pg test tbh and i won't really believe i am pg until i see something on the screen.

i am glad you are trying again this month. i have accepted my journey will be twisty-turny as well and as long as i get there in the end it will all be worth it.

i will have a look in the miscarriage book i have at home to see what it says about cp's. how many mc/cp's have you had?

aw pebs you are kind, only if you are at an extremely loose end though! I had a CP in dec, mmc in April (conceieved feb), cp July. every conception since DS :( am hoping is lifestyle related/just bad luck... sperm is meeting egg, that has to be a silver lining...

sounds like yours is the best attitude to have. and i totally know what you mean about the scan being the pg test :( sadly for us gone are the days when the line on a test might have meant a baby!

but you are pg! sooooo exciting :)

tbh i don't know how i am managing to have this attitude. i think i have just been ground down by all the shit. this is my fourth pg in the last couple of years and i don't have a baby to show for it.

i was like a nervous wreck last time. but i was having a lot of spotting so that was freaking me out.

i think my book says that a lot of pg's don't work out very early on due to chromosome problems/implantation problems or just something not being quite right, but most people don't know as they don't test until af is late. although by the sound of your af you would surely notice something wasn't right - it's probably too late by that time to do a pg test if you didn't already know and put it down to a heavy period.

the book is called miscarriage:what every woman should know by lesley regan. it's really easy to read and informative about testing etc. it's also very positive so it perks me up a bit!

thanks pebs. That is what I have mostly gleaned from t'internet. Am happy to think my body is doing its job and not making freaky babies or implanting more blighted ovums... but then again it is worrying to think is chromosomes and we might just be a bit fucked.

Am definitely just going to keep trying and not test early. My last CP AF was dreadful too, very painful so would def know if I had one again. will go to drs when it starts to freak me out but hope if cut out drinking etc will sort itself out... and will get the mc book then. for now, I want my pg book to be my bible!

fingers crossed you will be FINE! no reason why not x

i think chromosomes is the most worrying thing. i was really scared when me and dh had ours done. all was fine though.

it would be unlikely to have a problem though if you already have a child i would imagine.

Wanted to send hugs to pixie and wilde and jolly - jolly hope everything is okay.

Wilde so sorry to hear about the CP but glad you are feeling a bit better.

Having read a fair bit about CPs/ very early MC on this thread I am now almost certain I had one (or very early MC) late last year and possibly another just before Christmas (late and very heavy/ painful AF). Won't ever know for definite though as didn't test either time (I had more or less given up actively TTC at that point).

Hello all. Thanks for your lovely reassuring messages. Spotting has settled. No cramps yet. Did another bloody digi this am and says pregnant but still 1-2 weeks. Convinced I should be up to 2-3 by now so interpreting that as a bad sign. On positive sign feeling a bit sick and off coffee.

Am finding being a work very very tough today.

jolly i had some terrible days in work during my last pg. i was worried sick most of the time. can you try to get home early? or go and have a skive somewhere for a while to pass the time?

i got my bfp on saturday and i was showing 1-2 weeks on a digi yesterday i would say that was correct. i would expect it to show 2-3 weeks after this saturday. i thought you got bfp around the same time as me.

also, the 2-3 weeks on the digi in the least accurate of the three times. you could be on the edge of 1-2 and 2-3.

Wilde, just wanted to tell you what the consultant said when I had my blighted ovum miscarriage in January. She said that getting pregnant at all was a good sign for fertility and much less of a problem than struggling ttc. I get pg very easily, and started to worry that my body wasnt selective enough. But she said it didn't work like that, and that a lot of it was down to luck. She talked about all the genes being jumbled up at conception, as nature's way of making something new, to keep the species developing, but sometimes our bodies take it too far, and create something so novel, that it would not be able to survive. This really helped me understand that it is genetic, but not in the sense that me and DH had fundamentally bad genes... She also said that it is more common for people to stop ttc because they have had enough, than for people to be truly infertile.... I don't know if this helps you, but it made me feel a lot better. X

Jaffa Thats a good way of putting it and similar to what I was told by Prof Regan. We also have to remember that even when you find a reason for MC you can still have the same 'bad luck' MC's that affect others too. I thought my first pregnancy after finding I had a clotting disorder would be hunky dory but then went on to have another 'bad luck' miscarriage due to Chromosomal issues, meaning even though I had my treatment right - I still had another loss. But if you can actually get pregnant you are half way to winning the battle. It just takes some of us more shots before we get it right. and is bastard unfair

The knowledge some of you have is amazing! Although fecking unfair any of us need it.

midget, I've re-read my post, and realised it is a bit specific to my two 'bad luck' mc situation. You're right to add that there are some underlying conditions that can be behind mc. It is worth getting all the tests etc if you think this is the case. And sometimes it is just bad luck. But the 'good' thing is that every single one of us on this thread has been pregnant at least once, which is a positive sign for future pregnancies.

And it is bastard unfair, because each of these attempts is a heartbreak. And one that some lucky souls never have an inkling of, (including me in my first pregnancy)...

I have a bit of good news, after tape measure saga, I got measured again today. Now 25.5 cm. Supposed to grow 1 cm a week, grown nearly 6cm in 2. Think it was a combination of growth spurts, different mw measuring and archaic terrifying process in the first place!

jaffa and midget thank you very much indeed for your positivity and rational wisdoms :) I am going to keep reading what you said and drum it into my noggin.

I don't think I have a problem, yet, just think (hope) I have had rotten luck. only 20% of pgs end in a baby so I hope with the CPs I have just been having 'normal' mcs (iykwim) and soon, soon, will hit the jackpot.

jaffa am glad you are ok with your measurements and have got your head around the arbitrary one-size-fits-all bizarro tape measure system!

how are you today jolly?