TTC for 10+ months, part 8

[eurochick]

A friendly, supportive thread for those taking a blooming long time to conceive!

Nelly that's fab news

Morning all,
Nothing surprisely gross to mention today you will be glad to hear. For that you may have to wait a week for the Friday 13th doctors appointment. Who knows what will be discovered then.

Nelly sounds like plans are going well. PM me.

buzzy in answer to your question, it was an hour or two before. I have a book which says 'wait at least an hour but not more than 12 hours'.

I still have a mystery cycle which I will bore you with in a few days. Right now it makes so little sense to me it's not even worth going in to. Interesting Artemis you say that sometimes temping seems more trouble than it's worth. Mostly I really like it and Mr Purple points out that I get it confused with baby making. 'Look, look, my chart is perfect!' so now I have a new mental, I can hear myself saying it now 'it was really strange, the one month my chart was off was the one I got pregnant!' idiot.

Your honeymoon sounds amazing Nelly! Think I might start bugging DH that we need a second one (it was on our honeymoon that he broke his back - and no, I was not at fault ) and Seychelles sounds perfect!

Absolutely no baby making news to report today. Shag week is under way, temp is where it should be, now just waiting to OV. Think I'll start POAS tomorrow as I'll actually be home around the time I should be POAS rather than carrying around a Gü glass full of wee at work.

Morning ladies!

Pleased to hear there is no disgustingness on the programme for today, thank god for that :) Sorry you're body is playing silly buggers purple. But you know what it can mean not fuelling other people's menkul, honestly

On the topic of silly bodies, how's the monster follie pout. And when do you go back to discuss stuff with your consultant (or one of his minions).

Glad you're feeling the re-awakening of your ovaries euro.

Massive yay and well-done on honeymoon booking, nelly and WOW to first class flying :) enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!!!

Okay, so now we have a broken back on honeymoon, no I don't believe you missM, and a smurf incident on a blow up mattress. I think we need an inquiry :)

Here no baby making news either, except that I relocated those things and despite not using them for over 2 years most of them seem in-date never knew they lasted this long. But DH seems so occupied with work that had is sitting with a killer-laptop on his lap all night, while I go to bed and have a good snooze. I seem to be getting to the other side of my second panic about laps (it's on Mon) and I have not yet cancelled it, so I guess it will really happen...

Waves to all the rest of you. AND why oh why is there yet another bout of torrential rain planned for the weekend?

It has been an unbelievably shitty year first year of marriage. What with housing chocolate stealing aliens and breaking backs on honeymoons. Would you believe it was actually a jelly fish that broke his back?
I've definitely outed myself now.

waves at every one I know irl who reads this forum

Oh I know lots of people who have been invloved with back breaking jelly fish. WHAT? Please explain.

So there we were having an amazing honeymoon when we decide that the one thing that could make it even more amazing is to go snorkeling with dolphins. I chicken out as the water is choppy and I'm lazy and I didn't really want to get wet but DH jumps in and promptly gets stung by a jelly fish. He gets back in the boat and shows me the sting, I think no big deal, I get stung by jelly fish all the time, stop your whining and at this point he's just fine. About an hour later, we're walking in the forest and all of a sudden he feels dizzy, falls to the ground, starts hallucinating, foaming at the mouth and having a full grand mal seizure. The seizure stopped on it's own but he was in massive amounts of pain and was very confused and couldn't recall much. I managed to find someone help me get him to the hospital (I use the term loosely, as we were in Africa) and they gave him an infusion and pain killers. We found out, after the fact, that his muscles had seized so badly that they had crushed three of his vertebrae. When we got back home they operated on his back and inserted titanium plates into it which he's just had out a month ago. He's actually doing really well now but he'll never be the same.

It was such a freak accident that it's easy to make jokes and he takes it all in stride but it has affected our lives in a huge way.

Morning all,

Grey sky, forecast rain, yay for the fast approaching weekend. Floods anyone?

Nelly sings Exciting!!!!! Exciting!!! Exciting!!! Exciting!!! Exciting!!! Exciting!!! Exciting!!! Exciting!!! Exciting!!! (is there space in your suitcase for a princess - you get soooo much allowance travelling 1st) Really pleased you got sorted. That must be a huge weight off your mind. Once you've had a sniff of 1st class you'll never ever ever ever want to go back. I've been once (to Dubai) and it was totally amazeballs. Nothing compares now. Enjoy every single second and make good use of the free champagne! I am more than . In a nice way though. Can't wait to hear all about it. When are you off?

Buzzy glad to hear that Mr B is making a recovery.

Lemons in a perverse way, I would like rain this weekend. Especially as I have just invested in Hunters for the bird and bee wedding. We also have a brilliant umbrella that is DH's pride and joy.not to mention that it if shits it down I get to feel smug about having the sunniest day for my wedding what a cowbag I'm turning into!

MissM Gu jar. Now that is interesting. I use cheap plastic cups after DH got more and more and more grossed out with me using a glass and leaving it on the side (washed up with very hot soapy water first tho) and couldn't take it anymore!!! Oh your poor DH. I am actually scared about swimming in the sea and freak at tiny fishes, because tiny fishes mean potentially bigger creatures and I am totally terrified of jelly fish (I once read up of Man of War jelly fish before going to Bermuda years ago and needless to say it was swimming pool all the way for me!). I'm sure you haven't outed yourself either xxx

Purple sorry about the games and mind fuckery. Just to add fuel to my fire, FF decided to inform me that my chart was triphasic this morning However, on balance it did say that this could just be increased levels of progesterone in the second half of the luteal phase. I would be really pleased about this if it's just a case of extra progesterone as low progesterone (self diagnosis!) seems to have been my problem before. Hope things clear up and this is your month.

I hopefully get my blood result tests back this afternoon. Hopefully progesterone will be above the magic number. Is it 40? Or maybe 42? Maybe that's where the true meaning of life comes from (for any Douglas Adam's fans!). It certainly feels like it in my camp.

I saw one friend out of three last night; one has gone AWOL and the other was spewing her guts up. Said friend (35) informed me that she had her implant taken out two days ago. The competition is heating up. Looks in direction of ovaries, gives them the stern look and tells them to buck up ideas. She was when the nurse told her to come back in 6 months if nothing had happened She thought it would be a year. I think she thought I was being funny when I told her to go as soon as she could, just in case.

Doesn't it feel like the whole world is pregnant. That it doesn't take much to get there for other people to get their baby. I know that she will make an announcement later this year. I expect not to be expecting. Anyway. Despite this I am not feeling too bad today. I've resisted the sticks this morning. It's a good start at least.

X post MrsM at your story. That's really awful. Yes, I can see that people would poke fun. But it's a broken back FCS! Your poor OH. How long has it take for him to recover? x

We keep a sense of humour about it, what choice do we have and it truly was a freak occurrence. Who could ever imagine something like that happening?

I don't know how long his recovery will take. He's back at work now and he's, more or less, fully functional now. He still has pain and can't sit for long periods of time but that should get better with time. It would probably go quicker if he did the things he was supposed to (like book physio appointments) but he can be very stubborn at times.

When I married him, he was at least a couple inches taller than me, now he's lucky if he's my height. Apparently husbands don't come with a warranty

MissM wow that is some terrible bad luck. I can imagine it must have had a huge impact on you both.

Princess thanks for your words. I actually stopped temping 3 days past OV a few months back, mainly due to a beautiful Triphasic chart. I'm so inclined towards info on a chart because it seems to avoid that subjectivity of 'I feel my..whatever...feels funny' but I found, for me at least, stopping charting after OV reduces the crazy just a little. I'm not saying this is advice for you at all, you should certainly look at the whole pattern particularly if you have a focus on progesterone. Triphasic can only be a good thing for you, yes, it should indicate more progesterone. Whether more progesterone is also an indicator of the big finger, well it's totally possible.

I'm eating peas that are a 'natural contraceptive' so they say. So why am I eating peas? Because I am too lazy to go food shopping and peas are only thing left in the flat. Why? Well because they are a natural contraceptive, I guess.

Ah ladies, you are all helping to poor cooling water on the firey flames of symptom spotting madness. I am cooled, relieved and calm again. One hell of a rollercoaster this. Others who are not pregnant with triphasic charts, spotting early on in the luteal phase, metallic taste and all the other signs. Thank you all. :)

Peas as a natural contraceptive? I had no idea, I shall banish them from the house . . . rhubarb too!

Temping can be more trouble than it's worth and so many non-progesterone related things can cause it to fluctuate. I've seen an implantation dip almost every month, except that's never what it really was, just my thermometer playing tricks on me. That's not a bad idea to stop charting after OV to save stress.

I did have one whacko month where everything in my chart said I have OV'd on CD14, temps were all in line, even had a pre-rise dip and then 5 days later I "lost it" and temps went below the coverline again for 10 days before the whole thing started again and I OV'd on CD26. AF came 10 days later (8 days later than usual). I put it down to stress as I had some dental work done the week of my first supposed OV. Is it possible to "lose" an egg or did my body gear up to OV but when faced with the stress, decide to backtrack and not drop an egg?

Morning all

MissM wow that sounds like one hell of a honeymoon... how terrifying to be in that situation with limited access to medical care. What a horrible thing to happen. Your poor DH. I was stung by a jellyfish on holiday, hurt like hell but didn't have any scary side effects. Charmingly the man on the boat offered to piss on me, apparently urine is the best antidote to the sting

Speaking of pissing on fires, Princess I too have had the weird metallic taste in the 2ww and triphasic temp increases, mentalled like a pro but AF came as always... however I've got my fingers crossed for you

at the reuse of Gu glasses. I use them too. Today's lesson: do not attempt to balance a pot of wee on the sloping edge of the bath

Nelly the honeymoon planning sounds amazing! I'm joining in the general . Now if we're really going to be celestial twins I shall need a Lottery win

Purple stopping charting after ov sounds a sensible plan. Mine is all over the place this month, like a kid's drawing of the Alps. MissM yes it's possible (according to the bible TCOYF) for your body to gear up to ov, not manage it then try again and ov later in the month, especially if you're under stress.

So far shag week is hopeless. We can't seem to manage to be a) in the house and b) awake both at the same time. I've got a stupid work schedule this week. And the temps are being hopeless and my ovaries are hurting. At least I think it's my ovaries. My acu once memorably told me "there's nothing much in there except for ovaries and poo". She didn't mention eyeballs or teeth...

Oh dear, i've managed to bring the tone down massively this morning, sorry Lemon... Since it's too late to redeem myself, I might as well ask Euro: how's the sludge?

Hi to Buzzy, Carrie, Critter, Sarlat, Teu, Pout and everyone else - there's bound to be someone I've missed, my memory is shocking

Aha-ahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa The heavens have opened; the sky is grey; tomorrow is welly day. Another 'theme' wedding pished all over. Talk about raining on their 'fertility' parade. I really shouldn't be feeling this smug. Really I shouldn't. All I can think is how blue the sky was and how the sun shone on us for our wedding (most guests and me got sun burnt) :) Sometimes luck shines in strange places. No baby but gorgeous wedding pics. Yay for new wellies too. Imagines how satisfying jumping in a puddle will be tomorrow splash, splash, splash

Artemis Doesn't Chandler or Joey wee on Monica when she gets stung? It's to do with neutralising the sting and wee being alkaline (or maybe it's acidic - I can't remember). Anyone, I wouldn't want a stranger to piss on me at the wee tidal wave in the Artemis household!

Purple and MissM I can see the sense in stopping charting after ov if it causes stress. However, I want to do it for a few months to get a feel for my progesterone levels.

Nervous about results today. Has the brown diet worked or will I need some druggy intervention?

Oh and Artemis Poo in the ovaries? Talking of Alps and holidays, I had a sneaky look at skiing next year. Obvs can't book and have turned down a family trip to Whistler next March , will I be pregnant, won't I?!? But maybe we can do a last minute to 1850, where we usually go with the 'rents. Have to keep the positive non baby events on the horizon :)

Yikes MissM. That is quite a story! I'm glad he is doing well now.

I think the body can gear up to ov more than once per cycle, so that might have been what happened with you.

Nelly your honeymoon sounds amazing. I'm very jealous of your first class travel. I have never managed to get closer to the front of the plane than Premium Economy. I often do work for a client that has a policy that if you are on business for them and need to do a flight over 6 hrs, you go business. All my travel for them (and there has been dozens of trips for this client) has been short haul so far. Harrumph.

I'm sure you are absolutely fine on the malaria front with the Seychelles. In fact, we are probably going to try to fit in a week in the Seychelles or Maldives in the autumn. If we don't spend all our cash on sending bodily fluids around the world and woo by then.

Artemis it's CD12 and sludgegate continues. I hope it stops for the weekend. I have plans that involve Mr euro and sff that does not involve particular positions and my legs in the air afterwards and I do not want them to be thwarted!

princess 6 months is standard for the ancients over 35s. I guess we have no time to lose. :(

I had a triphasic chart once, about a year ago. Of course in my case it meant nothing. I hope it is different for you. I'm not charting this cycle for the first time since last March. It feels really, really odd. I am very curious to know what is going on there, particularly as the drugs must have sent my usually predictable cycle out of whack, but I am resisting. There is no point taking a couple of months off if I am still watching out for ov!

Euro I'm v. of your holiday plans too. I wish that the doctors would have looked at me after 6 months. I've been urging all of my friends to lie if they get into the same boat. I've been left languishing and feel really bitter about it. Only now, 3 years after the first MC have they done the 7 DPO test! I've had to wait a year since my last MC to be seen and even then they referred me to the consultant on 'dodgy' grounds. I wasn't shocked when friend said this as I knew this was the case. However, I think she felt v. about it. I don't know why I expect she'll be pregnant next month after a couple of bottles of a fine French red.... Bitter? Moi? Next wee, I'm breaking out the First Response. Then I can put this all to bed before the weekend. I'm v. impressed with your break resolve. FX for sludge-gate to move to one side, ready for weekend action.

Ok so we will have to compare notes on the hopeless shag week Artemis, it's a struggle which we are continuing despite not knowing where I'm at re cycle.....sorry about the Alps. It really doesn't help right?

MissM certainly as Artemis says your body can gear up and not get there but I didn't know that you would get post-ov temps in this case. I thought you would only see pos okp and EWCM. Never heard of this is relation to temps.

on acu comment Artemis, it made me google anatomy, shit man she is right. A lot of stuff is much higher up. Interesting and (surprise surprise) more fuel to the crazy. I'm always telling myself, 'well there are all kinds of organs and stuff in there...', now I'll just have to adjust to the idea that its poo or lady bits.

I also had to google Gu, I'm clearly out of touch as this company has been delighting the UK with puddings since 2003.

Rhubarb MissM? There was a whole thread on peas a while back called 'can someone tell me why peas are so evil?' of something along those lines.

I am delighted to inform you all, that my first response this morning showed.....dur durla durrrr.... a BFN. I am sooooo looking forward to champagne and spa treatments in a fortnight :) and I can't believe that my chart is doing clever things and showing that my ovaries have been reset and seem to be pumping out the progesterone. Bring on shag week. It's been a while!

Princess I think Artemis was saying poo or ovaries, rather than poo in ovaries. I hope. I'm not looking back to check in case I'm wrong.

X-post Princess, enjoy your time. Sorry for the result but you are so on the track and have that spa to look forward to. X

Purple sorry I was being facetious. I don't think sarcasm comes across very well on the thread! I don't really think that ovaries poop - thankfully! I feel relieved about the result, sure it would have been nice but then again at least I feel like things are working so that I can start TTC with the renewed hope. Back to where I was last week. Happy. Oh and no PMT, this is amazing! I heart my nutritionist.

glad you are happy and the poo and ovaries are only hanging in out in the same general area.

Missmedusa - your poor husband and poor you have to deal with something so frightening on your honeymoon. I hope you don't have to wait around for much longer for your bfp as you have certainly been through enough already.

Princess - sorry for the bfn. Still very early yet though. But even if this isn't the month then at least your body is doing what it is suppose to.

Artemis - sorry that shag week isn't going well this month. In those situations I like to crack open the wine.

I am so miserable at the moment. I can't snap out of it. I can't stop thinking about all my school friends with babies and how many of them will be trying for their 2nd soon. We have been invited to 3 things next weekend and I am ducking out of all of them - I've become a social recluse. Also DH is forcing me to go with him to visit BiL and I really don't want to. I last saw them before Xmas and they were saying how lovely it is to have kids at Christmas time. These are the kind of people they are, rub it in our faces. Plus I just feel a hopeless failure whenever I see them because I am still not pregnant.

I'll snap out of it sorry for the moan.

Morning ladies

Princess rats to a BFN unhelpfully adds that is still quite early is it not?

Joycep thank you for your helpful suggestions. I didn't pee on another stick unfortunately. Also the scan indicated 18mm on CD9????!!! I am wondering whether I have misinterpreted the dodgy handwriting on the piece of paper she is using to track my cycle on. That said 18mm would tie in with why she thought the follie would be ready to pop - gah! Anyway it looks like Godzilla follie has finally burst because I have boob pain indicating ovulation of sorts has happened. I agree though joy that I'm going to push for monitoring and push the overcooked follie theory. I think that I am actually hoping that this is the problem. Like you say though, getting her to listen might be an uphill struggle.
Have you heard from Greece yet? Has your deposit landed? If you are recommended antibiotics where will you get them from?

buzzy Ooooh I hadn't heard about bag reduction. Seeing as the cream appears to be doing little for my arse ishooo I might as well use it on my eyes!
Good luck for your scan. Hope it goes okay.

Nelly First Class....don't you get free champagne the whole trip? I'm glad you are so excited about it. It sounds lovely.

MissM Wow at your husband's accident. You really couldn't imagine that unfortunate sequence of events unfolding. How awful for you both.

Lemons Don't worry about the lap. Absolutely hand on heart it isn't that bad. The worst part is just the being in hospital (but that is just a few hours) and the waiting about. FX you'll be lucky and first on the list. I was actually thinking this morning how my pile has been waaaaay worse than the lap Is MrL going to be around for a couple of days when you first come home?

Rhubarb?????????? Have we found another fruit guilty of crimes against TTC? Who was Chief Fruit & Veg Witchfinder General anyway? There was somebody many moons ago.

Love and waves to you all.