After m/c - the wine and shagging thread: no 2!

[wilderumpus]

Hello ladies!

So we have had our mc's... and are moving on and thinking about making new babies :) Hurray, hurray!

18% very faint positive
27% faint positve
25% standard positive
8% strong positive
17% negative

Google is amazing. These are the results of 2,700 pregnant women at 12 dpo. I'm still waiting but these stats show it's increasingly less likely and just more like a cruel AF this month. We're off on holiday in a few hours. I won't let this ruin it.

Ps, yes I have just learned I was mispelling faint!

I didn't get bfp until 15dpo last time one

Have a lovely holiday :)

Thanks Hee, stupidly I want to cry... but I am doing my makeup so will concentrate on that important task instead!!!

Oh onemore how frustrating for you!! I hope ya holiday takes ya mind off things a little x

Any news on hee?? Xxx

Update on me nothing interesting got another faint positive this morning so hoping I'm still in the running (although this does mean wedding and festival sober this weekend!) xx

And self absorbed to boot, hee, how are you? And thanks Snickers, and yay!

Hi snickers and one. I feel better today I think. Not sure what to make of the cramps, it's mostly when I've been sitting down and then I stand up. I still haven't plucked up the courage to make a docs appointment - think I'll do it on Monday when I've had the weekend to process everything.
Enjoy your weekend snickers, sounds exciting!
one V jealous of your holiday, ooo the lovely lovely food :)

holiday one! hurrah! It will be fine 12dpo is still early :) And am so glad we don't axtually write 'feint' on this thread, that particular misspelling is abundant on this board and makes my teeth itch

aw snickers I would be most cross to be at a wedding and festival sober ever if I didn't know if I was pg or not! eek! So hope you are - if you want to be. would it be ok for you to be pg this quickly?

hee could be anything, everything will be loosening up, could it be joints? I would go to drs, for reassurance :)

Erm I could be going for worst mother in the year here but my dear boy is outside playing in the teeming rain! While I mumsnet! Togged up head to toe in waterproofs and I have a towel and spare change of clothes for when he comes in (! No, it's fine, it's the least I could do ). Poor love but in fairness he is really enjoying himself! And he needs to run off steam or will just spend the day jumping on me and the cat. Why aren't there any toddler groups on a friday eh?!

And I think he has an imaginary friend called georgia?! She lives in the jungle and shars his toys . Surely it's too early for al that?!

hello!

hee hope it's all calmed down now - there are a lot of changes going on internally right now so hopefully it's just your body adjusting.

one have a great holiday! At least if AF comes you can have a drink and forget about ttc til next month. I have SO been there though, and can't sympathise enough. It's like our bodies are playing tricks on us!

wild good for you with the shred! It sounds fab. I know what you mean about being like ordinary preg people - I am a hour glass shape so being pg doesn't really suit me as it fills out my thinnest part. I would love to have slimmer legs but nothing I do seems to make any difference... maybe shred is the answer .

snickers any more news?

chuckle hope baby making went well! gp juice made me laugh and also slightly creeped out! How interesting though...?!

My ff has changed every day this blimmin week! Now it is saying I ovd on day 15 which seems to have stuck the last couple of days now. Honestly though - it's meant every morning after taking my temps I end up nervously inputting them to see what crazy date it's going to give me next! It is definitely not worth the hassle of waking up at 6am and not getting back to sleep. Not sure I will bother next month although in a weird way I think I am addicted. If I could do spreadsheets chuckle, I think I would! I don't have a programme on my mac for them and really wouldn't have a clue. Anyway, on the good side we did dtd at around the right time and it was after my drunken night out so I guess that is an improvement.

ooh and wild don't think you are worst mum - they just love playing in the rain and getting soaked don't they? My girls are the same - and in a way it's ideal as it's not that cold right now, and if you are at home you can change their clothes if they get chilly. Great idea if you ask me!

boo he had the best time :) is now tired out and warm with some milkshake in the sitting room.

darned ff and temps! wtf.

YES I am hour glass too and have thick thighs :( But I know I will never had thighs that don't meet in the middle so think just go for toned and not flibby flabby and that will just have to do :) I was ridiculously thin after spending 4 months with tummy bugs in India when I got pg with DS so looked fabulous! Won't be like that this time though so am just doing best for myself now, self esteem and health and all that.

Another hourglass here - lost quite a bit of weight a couple years ago and got to a size 10. I'm tall and it didn't feel right at all. Just being toned is a great idea wild. I've always been an exercise avoider until I started the running recently. Think I'm going to stop that for now though just to be safe.

Boob no more news still sore on the boobs but trying not to get ma hopes up in case it's just at coming

Wild would live to be pregnant again I wanted a small age gap between dc and its getting bigger and bigger lol

I would kill to be an hourglass, I'm an apple lol but it does mean I look fab pg because I don't have to suck in the gut! X

Sounds promising snickers, FX!!

I would love to be an hour glass. I'm very pear shaped so look like a weeble when pg. My heart isn't really in it to lose weight as i want to be pg again soon so it seems pointless losing 7lb to put on 5 stone!!! I do really want to be one of those elegant, slender legged all bump women wearing leggings and pretty tunics but i know i will be round, red and sweaty and in a tent!

Proper food tonight, beg and everything...and a little seeing as its t'weekend!

hehe snickers. I really admire your chilled out attitude btw :)

EXACTLY chuckle, that is just how I have felt since xmas! I really can't be figged to lose weight or diet or any of that malarky, I'll put it on straight away when hopefully am pg :) round red sweaty and in a tent is hilarious

I shredded again today tho... though I did eat a ton of homemade shortbread and am now starting my first . Definitely first, definitely not last. I don't know if will drink next weekend because that is proper ttc time - am due to ov the following tuesday... do you guys abstain now generally/around ov/in the 2ww? I don't!

I love that I had several typos in my rant about the misspelling of 'feint' upthread. what a numpty :)

happy fridays!

finally have some peace and quiet to post! I was just going to say wild that I was thinking I'd stop drinking alcohol (and this month I was just drinking once a week) about a week before OV due. But OV got me early this month so now I don't think that is a very failsafe technique. I am now abstaining in the 2ww, although I got given a small glass of bubbly at work the other day and sipped it very slowly...

I know what you mean about weight loss - I always seem to get into the 2ww and just think, urgh can't be bothered. And that is whether I'm pg or not, obviously! (not being pg, as far as I know). But I think I put on half a stone since MC so should stick at it! Have lovely weekends all!

Happy Monday Morning all!! Hope everyone had lovely weekends. We had a quiet one, couple of glasses of wine I front if tv (I have cut right back on alcohol around ov and 2ww, and have cut down to pretty much zero in second week of 2ww but am still drinking a bit) The last 2 days I have had unbearable pain in both my knees for no apparent reason. Still have it now, barely slept last night. Clearly I am thinking its a sign im pg (that well known knee pain all pg women get, you know....) but clearly at 4dpo it can't be pg related. Its going to be a ling two weeks :(

Hello Chuckle! I too am ss like a crazy person. Though in all honesty (at 7dpo) I have absolutely no symptoms at all. It's just so hard not to analyse every twinge...

Need to find distractions... so off to clean out my sports gear cupboard and tidy the lounge!

Ah, boo, that's where I'm going wrong, I bake and eat cakes to distract myself from the 2ww!! At 4dpo I am imagining all sorts of symptoms (and I know I'm imagining) and it even flitted across my mind to poas this morning (I didn't, I swear I didn't!!) well done on productive use of time boo....must learn from you!!

boo I envy your sports gear cupboard! I need one, DH has raquets for every sport in the world, footballs and weights are all over the house. grrr.

aw yay for ss. am delighted i can't ss, although that hasn't stopped me. I felt a bit sick yesterday and wondered if I was pg . wtf.

chuckle not good to hear about your knees. what's that about? Could it be the weather? damp weather makes my DH's arm hurt (he had an accident with it at uni)

boo I struggle in the 2ww, I get really hungry and only want white bread etc with my pmt, daren't exercise in case am pg and am very tired anyway. Arf.

SO sex week starts this week :) texted DH at work today to let him know baby making starts tonight so he is forewarned, otherwise I obsess and worry all day that he won't want to and he comes home all tired/needing to do moer work until midnight and i just leap at him babbling about sex. sexy, non?

Hi ladies, hope you are all well. I've just had a shocking experience at the doctors where I was told to go away and come back at the end of the month as "50% of pregnancies end in miscarriage at this stage so there is no point in booking me in". Ok, I know this is technically true but it upset me anyway and I cried in the car on the way back to work. She made me an appointment with her to do it at the end of the month but I'm tempted to cancel it and make one with my usual and much nicer doctor.
Yay for the 2ww boo and "chuckle* I have my finger crossed for you. Also well done to you for cutting back on the alcohol, I can't say I did
wild Yay for sex week :) I hope it all goes to plan.
to everyone else.

OMG Hee I am outraged on your behalf! Did you tell the doctor about your previous MC? What an insensitive b*tch! Honestly, it makes you wonder why people are in the job!? Hope you are ok...

Yes I haven't done brilliantly on the no alcohol front - but at least I've only had the odd glass. I am preparing myself for disappointment this month, but there is always a bit of hope too... I'm due AF on Monday (week today) when Ive also got a really important meeting at work, so I have a feeling the whole thing will be rather stressful.

Also chuckle and wild, talking about eating cakes, I made shortbread yesterday after wild mentioned it earlier in the thread and have been using all my will power not to eat it all! There is something about homemade shortbread... I simply cannot make it lest I eat my own bodyweight in the stuff!

It is really hard in the 2ww as I am sure I eat more too (diet seems to go awol) and then I get stomach pains from bloating and then I feel tired from eating too many carbs, and then I start symptom spotting with both the tiredness and the bloating. It's ridiculous!! If I wasn't thinking about it, I think I'd just get on as normal. Arrrgh!

I am not planning on POanyS partly because each month so far ff has told me accurately when I am going to get AF - so soon as I get that temp dip I know that I'm not pg. One benefit of the slightly annoying and obsession making ff is that I've not wasted any tests in the last few months.

Urgh my youngest is being hard work today. I am finding it knackering! ... now could that be a sign...

hee that is outrageous. Sympathies for an insensitive bloody GP. What happened to bedside manner? (If you remember mine reprimanded me for getting pg too quickly after mc as he thought I might be mentally unstable?) Prat. Definitely cancel, and go with 'your' GP who will be more understanding. Grrrrrr.

wilde - good luck with the ttc/dtd over the next week or two. Well done for briefing dh! Hope he performs...

I've posted on another thread, but will tell you girls as I know you will have some sage advice too. My lovely SIL revealed that she was 3 wks behind me a couple of weeks ago. She rang last night to say she was bleeding... had scan today and mc was confirmed. She was very upset and miserable last night, and I think I am one of the few she knows who has had the same thing. But of course I am now pg - and I struggled to deal with pg people when I mc. Don't know what to do or how I can be of help to her. I just want to jump in car and go down and hug her and tell her that it will all be ok, in time. But live too far away to do that. And we are going away on Weds for 10 days so I won't really be available on the phone either. Just so hope that she is ok over the next few days. It's brought it all back to me and just how empty one feels.

aw hee that is harsh. why didn't they tell you that before you went for the appt? and it isn't 50% is it? its 25-33%. jeez.

I get drunk every friday :) DH comes back from work, DS is put to bed and Dh and I drink wine/cider until 11pm whereupon tiredness overtakes me and i slope to bed. I love it, I am sure it is the only time in the week DH and I actually spend any proper time together and relax. That's all I drink in a week though which is considerably less than when we accidently made DS!

aw boo hope you get a break from your youngest's antics soon! mine has been taken out by DH which was a lovely surprise - a) him being home early and b) taking DS off so I can do nothing. hurray!

Hee I am outraged too - how dare she. Go back in a few months and shove your big fat pregnant belly in her face and make her apologise!!!!

mmmmm, shortbread Boo mmmmmm- we had a Jamie Oliver 30 minute meal for tea which was yummy and the pudding was nice icecream with shortbread biccies - mmmmm (not homemade though!) (I swear I can actually feel my arse getting bigger)

I dont know what to suggest about your SIL ice - I know when it was my turn there was nothing anyone could do or say, and pregnant people upset me so much and still do , but having said that I enjoyed talking to a few friends of mine who had also had mc, so maybe just let her know if she wants to have a good old rant about how unfair it all is then you are there.

Have fun tonight wilde

I'm off for some more paracetamol for my old person knees (seriously, I am so old that I just ache when it rains now??!) and will spend the rest of the evening trying to think up an interesting sporting injury to explain my geriatric symptoms.