After m/c - the wine and shagging thread: no 2!

[wilderumpus]

Hello ladies!

So we have had our mc's... and are moving on and thinking about making new babies :) Hurray, hurray!

OOOOOOHHHH, a watery mouth you say interesting!

chuckle I just LOLed in actual real life.

PS: in defence of my sanity I had a watery mouth on 1dpo with my last pg, but thought it was the flu medication I was on (that i still haven't forgiven for my mc) but flu came and went and still watery mouth and then BFP.

(yes I made DH shag me when I thought I had flu, then on ov day I really did have flu and he wouldn't. was like that scene with monica and chandler from friends )

HOWEVER I know this is crazy talk and am fervently ignoring it even though it is rampant and disgusting (watery mouth not flu-sex).

Oh roll on the weekend and my little holiday!

It's me, HeeHee. DH called me this yesterday and I thought it was funny so I have namechanged.
Sorry about your BFN chuckle. I got 4 BFNs before my BFP.
Hope your watery mouth is a good sign wilde :)

how are you sheldonella?! I am freaked out by your new name, I feel like it is you, but with a naff big blonde wig on, a bit wonky! (even if you have blonde hair) (which for some reason I don't think you do!)

hehe!

don't encourage my SS! 2dpo!

:o
No blonde hair at all, I'm a brunette. DH & I were putting the bathroom shelf back on the wall after painting yesterday and I was nagging him to put all the bottles back on in the same place they were before so he called me sheldonella (Big Bang Theory in case I'm the only geek here :) )

How many dpo were you when you got your BFP Sheldonella? (BBT is a fave in the chuckle household, but we are a science geeky bunch so its a bit close to home sometimes!!)

chuckle Very close to home for us too :) I was 11 dpo this time and 15 last time.

Hmmmm, I am 12dpo today so I suppose there is still a glimmer of hope.....It just doesnt feel right though (despite the obvious pg symptom that is unexplained knee pain.....)

arf I don't understand science, am a philosophy/humanities type Me and science logic do not get on!

hope your knee pain eases up chuckle '9or not if it is your pg symptom!). I am 33 (bleugh) and get achy knees when I am dehydrated.

I haven't done any work today. I just can't concentrate today. Hmm, back to it again tomorrow.

Wild, I like cooking but I'm pretty bad at it so have not been very motivated to try, I can do a few things well enough, I just want to expand my repetoire!

Chuckle, I live with a vegetarian, what a pain it is that we can't eat the same meals all the time and that the smell of my food puts him off his!!! Id your OH a veggie or just against fish? And I did dress more appropriately, or in clothing that would have been appropriate for yesterday, it warmed up and was a little summery out today! (sorry for your bfn, it's a pain when AF drags her feet... but, sorry to say it again, you can't be sure until she makes an appearance).

Wild! Friendly slap and a giggle, what symptoms we get, they never make the top ten, watery mouth, knee ache, etc.! We should draw up a list! And I think I'm coming down with a bug, and we're starting sex week tonight, so of course being a responsible adult I haven't told OH about my potential infectiousness!!!

"Sheldonella"!!! Fantastic, I am jealous of your name. (BBT fan here) Anyone go to the London science fair the weekend of July 7th? We were away so couldn't go, but last time I went I learned that they have learned how to give blind people a form of signt (sensory based - amazing) and that they really can make things invisible, like Harry Potter's invisibility cloak (I am not a HP fan). I don't have a mind for remembering facts and I can't do maths type things but I (oops, I've gone on a bit - back to thread and searching out Wild's rant on ttc myths).

High 5 wild, that thread gave me a laugh in a terrible Jerry Springer kind of way and then just pissed me off, loved your two cents, well said.

oh dear. I can't begin to explain how much I am harrumphing. some people.

I love science docs, just not actual science. I have a very poor memory and can't do maths!

thanks for my slap one!

Ha ha, I also went all jerry springer on your ass wilde, i found myself chanting 'go wi-ild, go wi-ild' Put a smile on my face you did!!

one DH isn't veggie, just bloody fussy.He sorted tea tonight though so shouldn't whine about him. We are oop north and scared of london so didn't go to science fair, sounds ace though. Nearest I've got to that kind of thing is the science and industry museum in Manchester which was really boring a bit too industrial for me.

I know what you mean Chuckle, it made me want to write "yeah" in a back up girl kind of way! I'm still laughing now.

And I've been to the London science museum, maybe it's like the one in Manchester? I thought it was really set out for kids and boring. But this science fair was at a Royal Society where people like Newton had once presided. It was a bunch of post doc students/professors displaying their work in ways that jo public would understand.

And am stuffed to the brim with too much food far too close to sex time, damn it! Might go for a quick walk!

hi Girls
Sorry not posted - I have been reading the thread on my phone but it is (in the process of) packing in so I cannot face trying to type a response on it. But, I have been very amused by your jerry springer style antics! (But obv being a bystander I was sitting flinging the popcorn in my mouth a la chuckle). I had a read of the other thread, wild - (stands on chair) yeah, you go girl!

And, to throw this psycho behaviour into the pot: in the last couple of days I have thought - ooh I feel a bit nauseous... ooh a twinge down below, could it be ectopic... a metallic taste... I'm sure that's a metallic taste I have in my mouth... to recap - I AM HAVING A VISIT FROM AF RIGHT NOW. I am basically having symptoms while I have my period. I am so used to symptom spotting, I am a pathological symptom spotter. I can feel the metallic taste right now as I type. Tell me I haven't lost it?

Turns out DH isn't going away during key swi time, so that's a turn up. Well, I'm not actually trying this month (puts fingers in ears and sings la la la) so who cares anyway?

Boo, I think we should add that to the list. 1) knee ache, 2) watery mouth and 3) simultaneously PG while AFing. Yay your DH is around for swi!

I really did not like that myth thread yesterday and I think it put me off trying last night, that statement that you can ovulate at any time during the month, coupled with the fact that I haven't had a pos ov stick yet somehow made me feel defeated, and I'm not even due a pos ov stick according to my usual routine for at least another few hours if not day or two. Ugh, Must Pick Mood Up.

fnar ladies, fnar. enormously relieved you are still talking to me

I am irritated this morning (and obviously pre menstrual) because I realised that on that Evil Thread of Confrontation I backed down in the face of an argument that actually has nothing to do with my point. oh well. Someone else tried to make my point again this morning and has been shouted at :) am walking away :)

BOO I have done that. I have even done a pg test AFTER my period because I felt symptomy.

one now listen here do you normally get results from your opk? If so, you are fine to wait for that result and do all the shagging then. If not, then aye you better get shagging so spermies are around for whenever you ov in the next week or two. Most people don't ovulate at ANY time in the month unless they have pcos or irregular periods; the luteal pahse is pretty much the same for most women every month, so if your cycles are around the same length each month then you ovulate around the same time each month too. You would NEVER ov at day 9, randomly, then have AF at 30 would you? Do you know around what CD you ov from opks?

So never fear. but I know how you feel. Actually, sometimes I get performance anxiety in that I spend weeks preparing for the Shag Week and then as it comes up I get all defeatist and depressed and tired out!

Symptoms today: can't spell.

me again. I am sad and want to offload. My childminder said today about how she and DS had seen a friend (my only friend up here) and her DS (my son's age and friend) at the park and the son had grabbed DS's face to hurt him so the childminder pushed the pushchair with DS in it away.

Then later that day DS was telling the childminder's son all about this other kid and how he pushes him, snatches toys off him, hits him, pushes him off his trike... and it is all true. Every time we see this kid he is a little shit to my DS and every time I try to intervene, talk to the other child, protect my DS. His mum despairs...

But i know now that I can't see this friend or her DS any more. I need to put my DS first and I feel sad for him that it took me this long to realise :( signed up for a new toddler group this morning so we can meet new friends but they won't start until sept now... a long, lonely summer it will be.

boo. feel like a terrible parent.

Yes I know what you mean about the thread - it was (sort of) helpful and not helpful in equal amounts. What I found slightly depressing is that someone said the ov window might only be about 4 hours (but I might have misread that). On the other hand, it does explain why you can dtd around ov time and not conceive, which in a way, is reassuring (i.e. there's not another more serious problem in the way). But in my experience, the more you look into pinpointing how to conceive, the more you realise it is incredibly difficult and therefore very lucky when you do. But having had this luck 3 times myself equally I know that it can't be that difficult!! So basically, all very contradictory and mysterious. I think the main problem with that thread was that some people were talking from a base of potential infertility, some people were just unlucky so far, and some people don't know whether they are infertile or unlucky, or lucky for that matter!

Glad to hear I am not the only ss nutter round here!

one lots of people don't get anywhere with ov sticks so don't lose heart! Also I am pretty sure I've only ever got a faint pos with the cheapy ones which doesn't mean anything according to the pics on the side of the wrapper. And I am pretty sure I have ovulated! Are you temping at all? It's quite handy in terms of seeing the rise and 'proof' of ovulation. though obviously I am a bad advert for it after last month. Chin up chuck!

wild Sorry to hear about your DS's 'pal'. It's tricky. Why is he so awful with your DS? Does he have older brothers for example? I suppose you could still meet up with you friend on occasions when you are there, rather than your childminder, so you can protect your DS and maybe have stern words with the other child so he knows there is no messing with you & your DS (I am sure your childminder would protect him, but he might feel more secure with you). Also he might grow out of his horrid behaviour? Might there be some summer toddler groups to go to? I find that just hanging around the playground there is often mums to chat to. We were at the playground today when DD1 (4) saw her friend who has since moved up to big school. Said 'friend' totally ignored my DD who seemed convinced it was because she doesn't have the right hair colour !?? It's so hard explaining horrid behaviour to little ones - I so don't want their world to be nasty but obv is has to be the real world...

We spent the morning in the rain in the playground - I have decided that the only way to stay sane is to brave the rain and get out of the house!! Waterproof trousers have just been delivered. If this carries on, our fave summer pastime will be puddle jumping!

Sorry wild just realised you have pretty much done what I suggested. I don't think you are a bad parent - it's not necessarily a bad thing for your DS to realise that there are difficult people in life...

boo you might only have a window of four hours to catch the LH SURGE, but you egg will pop about 12-48 hours after that... and live for 12-24 hours :) And relax.

ah well the friend is actually my best friend, the childminder doesn't know her but the DC's obviously recognised each other in the park. What makes me sad is that it happened when I was out of the picture, that I wasn't there :( he just is unpleasant to anyone, he isn't really given proper boundaries I don't think. I would never let my DS get away with what this child does, in fact he finds it shocking himself - at 2.7! oh well, we are moving in Nov anyway.

Aw BLESS your DD! wrong hair colour. aw. aw. we have waterproof trousers for DS - they are enormous and very rustly! but yes, we go OUT. Am trying to find summer toddler groups but there just aren't any on my days off until Sept. Boo.

Asda man just came to deliver shopping and was miffed that I was miffed that he was late, then didn't say hello, then slagged off my cat and having to carry cat litter and then alluded letchily to my apparent beauty. Ug, ug, ug. how dare I express discontent at this for i am but a laydee and he a Man.

Thanks wild and boo, I shouldn't have let it bother me, in fact I can't blame that thread, just felt a little down, will swi tonight. I do have vaguely predictable cycles, it's probably fine that we didn't dtd last night.

Wild, that sounds hard learning that your bf's child is mean to yours. I can't imagine what that must be like. Can you meet up without your children or has it led to difficulties between you?

I just did something odd. I was in a meeting this afternoon, towards the end we were asked to use break out rooms to have small group discussions. I simply didn't feel like it so I followed some people out knowing it would look like I was joining them, then seperated off to go to the loo, snuck back in to the main room once everyone had left to get my stuff and hightailed it ouf of there using a complex system of stairs and corridors so as to not get caught. (I can almost here the mission impossible theme music as I type!) I did find a computer to finish the working day, but I just kind of sat there stunned at my own such unprofessional behaviour.

ANYWAY, I now can read this on computer instead of phone. You know, I saw on another thread where the Guru was actually asked to namechange TO that name? She has quite a following. What a shame. The medical model approach to my body doesn't suit me at all, for instance, when I was pregnant I knew when it happened because we only had sex once that month so the only factors to consider were longevity of sperm and actual ovulation, and they refused and counted traditionally from the first day of my last period because it suited them and "I could not be sure", at that point I knew the medical approach would be a problem for me. The Guru seeks acruracy but has alligned herself with a false god!

And I'm not temping, I have to say it doesn't appeal.

Now, must go make myself sexy .

get thee to the bedroom one! TTC is stressful chuck... and the demand of knowing you have to dtd later gets more stressful as the day goes on in my house. On sunday we fell into bed bickering! the romance...

Arf it has taken a year to get to this point one; every time we meet (every week or two) her DS is just dreadful, so unsociable. he's like it to everyone, poor mite. It's not a phase (or it is a bloody long one) I haven't said I won't meet up any more but certainly i have stopped texting when I used to :( Can't meet up without children as evenings are with DHs/knackered - did before for drinks/swimming but she heavily pg now. I feel good really for realising I have to put DS first though. My poor DS, he is such a gentle charming happy little creature! when he isn't being a terror Will talk to DH about it later and see what he thinks... will have to find some more friends!