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Fantastic 40+ thread - part 7

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lolfactor · 28/06/2012 20:41

Shiny new thread - over here everyone Smile

OP posts:
goldengirl71 · 13/08/2012 15:49

Blackcats, I'm sorry today's date is rubbish for you. I hope your next test delivers sweet revenge Smile

I'm 12DPO today with a lower temp and a chin full of what appears to be pizza Sad

TinaO99 · 13/08/2012 16:42

thanks lol diege and gum I used my first injection yesterday and already and in pmt hell - I have 21 days of this before I can even have a csna - not sure my dh can take it, hopefully it'll all settle down after a bit. I've also been feeling terribly sad when i thought I'd gotten over it as I so wanted a baby that was part me and part dh I felt like weeping. It's irrational as it will still be part me but I think I'm still grieving for the fact I can't have my own anymore and feeling a bit useless to be honest.

golden my heart goes out to you, what an awfully sad story you read I felt like crying just reading your re-telling of it! Have you considered donor eggs at all? Sorry if you've already mentioned this in a previous post and I've missed it!

on a different note what did everyone think of the closing ceremony? I feel like I'm the only one who didn't think that much of it! The opening ceremony was so good though I think it would be hard to top it!

goldengirl71 · 13/08/2012 17:56

Tina, I hope your PMT symptoms subside soon....not sure what your injection was for or what csna is, but I know you've found your egg donor and I wish you the very best result. Don't worry about the grief you feel that this baby would 'not be yours'. That will dissipate, for sure, when she or he joins your family. I would grab the opportunity for a donated egg were I to discover that mine are defunct but DP & I can't afford assisted conception. Hopefully it won't come to that Hmm Sorry that article upset you....hard to read isn't it? I fight very hard, at times, that little voice which tells me I will be nothing if I don't become a mother. I have to believe the universe holds great things in store for those who remain childless and for those who yearn to feel 'complete' in all sorts of ways.

The closing ceremony? Ah. I found it remarkably dull and such a shame that the legends Annie Lennox & George Michael chose to mime (I also missed the end with Take That, whom I love). Timothy Spall was unintelligible, Kate Moss & Naomi Campbell had no damned place in that ceremony, and I resent the likes of Mel B, Posh Spice & Naomi boosting their profiles on the back of the London Olympics when they choose not to live or pay taxes in this country. I thought Elbow were atrocious. And who decided to showcase Russell Brand as an ambassador for Britain?! Jessie J saved the day with her huge voice and uusual spunky performance. But the star of the show? Freddie Mercury! And, of course, we have much to be thankful for...Macca wasn't performing Wink

goldengirl71 · 13/08/2012 18:29

Oh great. My period has just arrived. Two days early. That means I had an eleven day luteal phase Sad

AngelGeorgie · 13/08/2012 21:47

Italian good luck xxx
FF thanks very much for my own catogry... Xxx your boy sounds fabulous.. My Phebs always ate lots & she's just perfect ... You sound very content .. Just lovely to hear xxxx
Blackcat maybe wait a few days & re test??? ( staring the bloody obvious) !!!
Good luck fx for u ..
Somewhere wish I had " patented" my saying but YES today you are pg.. Good luck xxc
Hi all, love to all, welcome to newcomers ... This is a lovely supportive thread & hopefully you ll all recieve ad much support as I have... Good luck all xxx
Hi to my old muckers " Diege, Gum & Hippy* xxxxxxxx

hippychick66 · 13/08/2012 22:26

Tina - I know our very own dear Italian has been where you are and I'm sure she will be happy to give you relevant advise. Good luck to you, sweetie. X

Big wave for Georgie and Pheobe's mummy. X

hopefulgum · 14/08/2012 00:41

Hello back to the lovely Angelgeorgie.

I don't even now what cycle day I'm at. I am still temping, but not really taking much notice, I think I may be feeling very relaxed about it all now. I've just shed the last of my maternity wear on ebay and it actually feels very good. Besides, if I get pregnant again, I want nice new stuffWink.

I think ovulation may happen soon, but not doing opks.

I didn't see the closing ceremony. I have hardly watched the olympics this time round. I guess I must be going through an intensely busy time, because I don't seem to have time. Last time I really enjoyed watching it, but this time it has flashed past.

Tina, sorry you are feeling awful, but just hang in there and remember it will all be worth it when your little one joins your family.

goldengirl- sorry about AF.

somewherebecomingrain · 14/08/2012 10:14

aren't diege and hopefulgum flirting with the lucky star category? its a great category.
x

AddictedtoCrunchies · 14/08/2012 12:24

Hello

Not sure I'm in the right place but I'm 42 in two weeks and just about to start trying for DC2. Is it OK if I lurk on the edges as you seem to be well established?

A friend advised me to use the ovulation sticks which I've started today (Day 6) but I'm not really any more scientifically prepared than that. Thought I'd wait for the line then grab DH and get down to it. Have also started taking folic acid.

Has anyone get any better advice than that or am I starting off in the right way?

DS1 is 4.5 and just about to start school. I've had this overwhelming urge in recent weeks to have another. I don't want to wake up in ten years and not have given it a go so, although we're stuck in a two bed we can't sell, we both have good jobs and I have a good mat package so thought we'd give it a try.

Off on h

lotsofcheese · 14/08/2012 13:59

Afternoon ladies! I'm 11 dpo (I think) & having spotting/cramping. But my cycle is so messed up after m/c so am trying not to read into it too much.. Trying to step away from Dr Google too......

goldengirl71 · 14/08/2012 14:40

Hello, crunchies. I can highly recommend fertilityfriend.com if you seriously want to know how your cycles work, how they can differ from month-to-month and when to have the best-timed sex. It involves taking your basal body temperature (BBT) each morning (you can get the digital thermometer for a couple of quid off Amazon) and recording it on your fertilityfriend chart. It's proved invaluable for lots of women whose cycles can no longer be regularly predicted (ie. us over 40s!) You could also google the Sperm Meets Egg Plan. Really, really simple but surprisingly exhausting for some. You really have to actually fancy your husband for this to work Wink

Lotsofcheese, so difficult after a miscarriage not to feel massively impatient. My thoughts are with you.

Well, after having only produced a tiny bit of brown stuff yesterday when I said my period had arrived, I input that information as 'spotting' on fertilityfriend. Is this correct? Has my new cycle only started today with real bleeding? Fertilityfriend seem to think so as they've started a new chart only today - which means my luteal phase last month was 12 days, not 11. Bit of an improvement, although I'd rather it was back to my usual 14. Is it usual for luteal phease length to differ each month by one or two days, or is that another anomaly only the over-40s have to endure? [sighs]

AddictedtoCrunchies · 14/08/2012 15:33

Thanks goldengirl. Had a look at FF and entered all my bits and pieces. Am going to continue with sticks and CM monitoring for this month and see how I get on.

What is OPK?

goldengirl71 · 14/08/2012 16:50

Crunchies, OPK = Ovulation Predictor Kit (the strips you're using). When you get a line as dark as, or stronger, than the control line, it means your luteinizing hormone has surged. This indicates that ovulation will usually take place within the next 24-36 hours. It's recommended that you have intercourse on the day of the surge and for two days after (to cover all bases). The Sperm Meets Egg Plan recommends you start having regular intercourse before your OPK detects a surge, however, in order to cover the whole of your potentially fertile window. If you haven't read Zita West's Guide To Getting Pregnant I recommend you buy it from Amazon. It's a really simple read but will open your eyes to the amount of stuff you actually don't know about your cycle. Hope this helps.

AddictedtoCrunchies · 14/08/2012 17:04

That's great - thanks. It's a whole new language to learn! I really appreciate your advice. I'm a sad geek and have a 'ttc' notebook and I'm writing down everything you tell me (I'm a Virgo - I like a nice list).

hippychick66 · 14/08/2012 23:02

Goldengirl - I always had spotting for a few days before my period started and Fertility friend never started a new cycle until I put at least a light bleed in. I think 12 days luteal phase is ok.

Addictedtocrunchies - never let the number of bedrooms you have stop you from chasing your dreams.
Smile
Tina - hoping those hormones are not to manic. X

gothinrecovery · 14/08/2012 23:09

Hi logging in surreptitiously on hol so not really caught up with all the news. Hope everyone is okay, tina great things are moving forward.

Not my month sadly, had some spotting yesterday then AF turned up with a vengeance this morning. Disappointing as had had quite a few symptoms this month - increased temp, some morning nausea - but last couple of days that had dropped off. On plus side cycle length seems back to normal after being all over the place post mc.

Dunno when online again so hugs to everyone.

gothinrecovery · 14/08/2012 23:09

Hi logging in surreptitiously on hol so not really caught up with all the news. Hope everyone is okay, tina great things are moving forward.

Not my month sadly, had some spotting yesterday then AF turned up with a vengeance this morning. Disappointing as had had quite a few symptoms this month - increased temp, some morning nausea - but last couple of days that had dropped off. On plus side cycle length seems back to normal after being all over the place post mc.

Dunno when online again so hugs to everyone.

Italiangreyhound · 14/08/2012 23:31

Pocket really hoping all the best for you my dear.

knicky thanks, I am sure DD will be so excited with any child who joins our family. I am actually so excited about the prospect of going through the process. I think I have a lot to learn! I hope I am up to the challenge!

somewherebecomingrain thanks for your kind comments, and to all others who have commented.

Huge hugs to you all. AND tons of baby dust.

hopefulgum · 15/08/2012 00:14

goth, I'm sorry this wasn't your month. I hope you can enjoy your holiday anyway.

Hello addicted. There is a tonne of stuff out there about getting pregnant, and I think I might have read it all in the last 5 years. But I won't make any recommendations because I think it can all get a bit overwhelming,and ultimately, having sex is how you get pregnantGrin. I think there are some great recommendations out there, but ttc is stressful at our age and one of the best things I did (which has benefits that a much greater than for ttc) is having acupuncture. If you can afford it, it is truly worthwhile. I love that it helps me relax and contributes to an overall sense of well-being.

I can't say acupuncture got me pregnant, but I do think it did help with the conception of my 4 year old (got pregnant at 41). But I've been having ongoing acupuncture and although I've been pregnant three times, I have miscarried, so it isn't a cure IYKWIM. I wish you all the best and hope it can happen soon for you.

Hello Italian, I hope the process goes smoothly for you. It is very exciting.

hippychick66 · 15/08/2012 00:25

Goth - if you really want to be sureptitious then it's probably best to only post the message once Wink Seriously though, so sorry Af turned up - I always found it was worse when i'd had a few symptoms to get my hopes up. Eat chocolate or drink wine - whatever gets you past the first day of your period and keeps you in the holiday mood.

AddictedtoCrunchies · 15/08/2012 08:30

hopefulgum - great advice thanks. I actually do believe in acupuncture as had it earlier this year for a knee problem. So I do have a contact there.

I think I shall see what happens this month and then consider it next (if nothing's happened which the chances are it won't have).

somewherebecomingrain · 15/08/2012 11:22

Hi all - hello angelgeorgie thanks that is the right attitude - and hopeful FTIAP. I haven't actually ever had any medical problems with PG myself but I do get MS and bad moods and overweight and become a more pessimistic version of myself. Although I want to be pregnant, I don't really like the experience. Also many of my close people have had serious medical problems and I am tuned in to what can happen. And now I'm older. But I haven't really got anything to complain about.

I'm really keeping on top of the weight thing though this time.

Tina I am soooo sympathetic towards the hormones. I am supersensitive to all drugs including my own body's hormones and I know how rough it can be. But it's all in a good cause - so excited for you.

goth so sorry to hear about AF, it's really good that your cycle is regularising. I also think the symptoms are a good sign. I don't beleive this thing 'you can't be a little bit pregnant' - tell that to women on the 2ww. That saying was made up by men. I really think it's possible your body is getting geared up to conceive again. I don't know if it helps for me to say that but that was my immediate thought.

italian keep us updated

crunchie and cheese I like your food-inspired names! Welcome to the thread xxx

lotsofcheese · 15/08/2012 11:55

Hello again.

Goth I think we were on the 40+ pregnancy thread together & fell off the bus around the same time Sad

I've also started what I think is a period today - on cd 18 SadSadSad Really fed up with my cycles being so out of kilter after m/c so will make a Dr's appt. Am terrified she will tell me I'm peri-menopausal (I think my mum was early with her's) & that there's nothing they can do.

This 40+ lark isn't easy, for any of us.

goldengirl71 · 15/08/2012 13:29

Hippychick, thank you for the clarification.

Goth, I'm sorry your period turned up Sad

Italian, your excitement is palpable! I wish you much happiness.

Crunchies, Hopeful is spot on about information overload being stressful - and that sex is the answer! For me, personally, the stress I feel each month is entirely self-inflicted. By this, I mean that temping & charting on fertilityfriend; using this thread to learn and share; putting the dream of having a baby at the very top of my list of priorities; almost weeping over babies in Tesco; dreading my birthday on the 30th; all these things are punishing me and actually spoiling my day-to-day life - I have no interest in anything else going on around me. Life is going on for everyone else around me whereas I feel permanently stuck in fortnightly segments of 'awaiting ovulation' and 'the two-week wait'.

The reason I have ended up like this is that my MMC in March was painful and unexpected (despite the statistics for miscarriage in over-40s I refused to consider myself as 'one of them'). I am now a statistic. I was told I would fall pregnant easily after the miscarriage. I haven't. Not even a sniff. This is despite having plentiful, well-timed sex. Also, the due date for my lost baby is coming up and I'm dreading it - I so wanted to be pregnant again by then. I can't believe I am actually following the pregnancy thread I used to belong to even though I ache with envy and misery reading about their accelerating excitement. Lucky, lucky ladies. I'm insane for doing this, right?

In an earlier post on here the other day I said I was convinced the universe holds great things for those of us who yearn to feel 'complete', but yesterday I found that the universes also conspires against us. Listen to this: my DP contacted an 'old acquaintance' yesterday for a supply of cheap Viagra (it costs £30 for four from the doctor). He travelled a long way to meet him and was told to wait on the street corner whilst he went into a dodgy-looking house with DPs (substantial enough amount of) money. DP waited 40 minutes and knocked on the door. Nobody answered. Ever. They had scarpered out the back with my poor DPs cash. Now, we are not well-off, but aside from the financial disaster it absolutely floored my DP in terms of embarrassment at his naivety and 'foolishness'. He came all the way home (public transport - we don't own a car) and all I could do was pat his head and make him a Brew. Actually, I was far more sympathetic than this but you get my drift. DPs pride was wounded and I could tell that it had thrown up the whole issue of his 'inadequacy' once again ie. needing help with his erectile dysfunction.

Now here's the point [sighs of relief all round]: DPs 'issues' were entirely not an issue and quite rare until recently, when getting pregnant has become more and more an obsession as I believe less and less that it is going to happen. Learning to become un-obsessed is counter-productive: I can't unlearn the statistics surrounding fertility for the over-forties.

Oh dear. I didn't mean for this post to end up being negative. I was trying to echo hopeful's sentiments about stress.

It should help the fact that DPs ex (the mother of his son) got pregnant with Oliver at 45. However, the way she speaks (which is pretty unintelligible as she is Spanish & her rapid, shrieking Spanglish is like nails down a chalkboard) is not helpful: "Ohhhhhhhh!! Issa issy-pissy haffing babby when fotty-wan! Eye fotty-fife and smocking all-a the days when eye wassa pregnant weeth Ollyfair! Smocking fotty ciggies a day!! Ohhhhh, YES! And me and [DPs name] haff sex very not many times!! Issy-pissy eye thinks!"

goldengirl71 · 15/08/2012 13:34

I am aware that I have made DPs ex sound Italian. I'm sorry about this. Her baritone is also akin to Deirdre Barlow but Im' afraid I don't know how to convey this, either.

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