TTC Super Ovulation part 2

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hey ladies,

There are a few of us who are ttc after mc's, however there will be ladies out there who are also ttc for the first time or second or third without success. If anyone is on, considering or had success on a super ovulation programme then do join us. How long did it take ? Did you try IUI with it.. ? Did you have PCOS?

Kicking this off and hoping some of you will join....

part 1 here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1385998-TTC-Super-Ovulation

Morning everyone. I hope the next few days pass quickly ari. BFN for me today so that is that for my FET attempt. Super ov cycle 5 ( although will be almost a year since I started first one) this month.

I think it is the right thing to do - there have been more conceptions on it that not am I right ?

Morning ladies .. duggs So sorry about your FET not working, but good on you that you're going on with SO. Does seem to be the magic number, SO cycle 5, although it's proving to be most likely a duff one for me. I suspect Mr S will be thinking the quality of my eggs are just rubbish now - I'm just getting chemical after chemical, in fact that's all I've had since being on his plan from August last year, this is my third on his plan and fourth overall with only two 'proper' pregnancies.

And thanks pebbles ... to be honest I'm not even sure it's worth having the bhCG test done. I tested again this morning, 16dpo and the line is still exactly the same, no lighter, no darker. It's clear, but not strong. I think we all know where this is going, I see little point wasting a 2-hour round trip twice this week and £120 in 2 tests just for it to tell me my hCG isn't rising - I know that already. Been here before, know the outcome. My only slight dilemma now is do I carry on pumping myself full of pred and cyclogest? I'm loathe to keep taking pred, knowing the effect it has on my cycles, but at the same time I know if I stop my body will just kill off whatever may be there. shrug Rubbish I'm facing this yet again, but as I say, I suppose what can I expect at my age?

Hope everyone else is doing great this morning, excuse me while I wander off to kick something very hard.

Just for comparisons btw - SO cycle 1 I got pg but that was a chemical (very quickly too), then cycle 5 (and we all know where that's going). Seems I can get pregnant, but presumably the quality of my eggs is just not good enough to sustain anything.

Ok so I've just been thrown a curveball. Louise has just sent me a text, she's spoken with Mr S and he's said I should have the intralipids because the urine test is positive and not to bother with bhCG. That confuses the heck out of me, the line is getting no darker - it should be by now, surely? 4 days after first testing it shouldn't be staying uniformly faint, surely? That seems nuts to me. I trust Mr S, of course I do, but .. ?

Aw duggs :( my scan wasn't great my lining was better at 7.5 though it used to be 10! But was 5 something last month. Just 2 follicles at 9 and 10 mm :( I always have one around the 18/20 mm sob sob :(

Sorry to hear about the follie size mel (although yay for your lining) .. what did Mr S suggest?

Morning all . mel sorry to hear your scan results weren't great this time, but good the linings better . maybe next cycle if this one doesn't work you'll get both together .

Ari Dr S must think you're in with a good chance to say not to bother with the hgc tests. At least if you see him you can tell him how you're feeling and he can hopefully make you feel more positive.It's must really have messed with your head having previous chemical pregnancies. When I had my early mc's I wasn't aware of cp's. It's a horrible term isn't it. Hope you're foots ok after kicking stuff but you should be taking it easy ....

duggs sorry to hear you gt a bfn :(

Havin worked all weekend having a pj and telly day today ... V lazy xx

rainbows Mmm I wish that were the case, but it's not a case of Mr S thinking I'm in with a chance, just that he has to cover all medical bases and I completely understand that. If I didn't have intralipids, my body will kill off whatever's there anyway, and I think that's the line he's following. He wasn't at NLC, he works out of Harley St on a Monday. And I did kick quite a few things ;)

Seriously if I'm to be utterly realistic (which I always am), there's no chance this can go anywhere. Starting off with a faint test is fine .. even fine if they stay faint if you're talking about the IC tests, as apparently some of them are well known for that happening. But starting off with a faint FRER that stays faint can never come out with anything good, I know this. I know it's just a matter of time - I read back in my notes to the one I had in December last year and I went a full 2 weeks after my first faint BFP before I started miscarrying so I still have probably another 2 weeks to go before I find out one way or another. But I know the score, I don't have my head in the clouds - of course I still hope for a small miracle, but I haven't seen anyone parting seas around here lately, if you know what I mean :)

Great to hear you're having a feet-up-and-relax kind of day rainbows, best thing to do on a wet day like today!

Ari I'm probably a tad naive when it's comes to BFP's on pred/super ov as its relatively new to me. I'm sorry it's not looking good this time round for you. I too will join you in hoping for that miracle. When are you going for intralipids ?

I think naive is a great place to be rainbows, to be honest, it beats the hell out of the kind of experience I have! I went for intralipids at 10am this morning, so now I just wait for the fat lady to start singing :)

Sorry you didn't get a great scan Mel I know how frustrating these things are. On the plus side good news your lining was better. What happens now, do you still do trigger shot?

Duggs so sorry about your bfn, it's so disheartening particularly after ivf. Good luck for cycle 5 of super ov, am just on the way to Harley St for my scan.

Ari don't know what to say other than hope you are wrong and it's not a chemical, fingers crossed and hope the next couple of wks aren't to stressful for you.

Enjoy your feet up day Rainbows.

I have actually stopped spotting for the first time in two months and can sed the difference the starflower oil has made if you get my drift!

Woohoo to the difference pebbles, hope your follies are behaving :)

abney best of luck for your scan tomorrow.

Well rubbish scan for me too as only one good size follie, v dissapointed as it is cycle 5. he is upping my dose to 7.5mg for the last go.
I am also panicing as I need to inject in the morning so need to find sonewhere to get ovitrelle from tonight!! Has anyone found anywhere particular that has it and doesn't have to order it?? Currently having dinner with my oh in Covent Garden so wondering if to try in London or when I get home!!

Peebles I had my letrozole upped to 7.5mg and it made a huge difference.i went from 1 follicle at 17mm to 2 .... 1 at 22mm the other at 18. I hope you get your ovitrelle . Not local to London area so sorry I can't suggest anywhere. Good luck this cycle.

I too am on 7.5. Hope you get your ovitrelle hun it's a nightmare isn't it?! Well they want me to have another scan fri day 15 to see if there's any change! More money but I just hope it's improved xx

Sorry to hear about your scan pebbles but take heart, it only takes one follie remember. Also remember the reason people often get pg in cycle 5 or 6 is that it can take a few cycles to get the optimum response from the meds - you're not out yet! Did you find somewhere to get your Ovitrelle? Do you ovulate naturally without it? Just wondered how important it is that you inject in the morning? Mr S told me to inject in the morning last time too but I told him that was largely impossible on a weekday morning (thanks to mad pre-school rush) and he said it was ok to do it in the evening. I would just (and did) DTD a bit earlier, just to catch in case you ovulate naturally before the Ovitrelle takes effect. So, say, tonight, tomorrow, Wed & Thu (and poss Fri if you can manage it?), just to cover all eventualities. Just my tuppence worth :)

mel I think others have had to go back for second scans in a cycle before, hope second time is the charm for you!

Ari- I'm sorry you feel this way. I too have had 4 CPs since my son 3 years ago and only one other proper pregnancy which miscarried at 8 wks. I wish we could just produce a good egg, there must be some still left!
I am keeping my fingers crossed for you as I think with this plan we have to test early because of the steroids but this just causes so much heartache too as if we weren't taking pred, some of us wouldnt test at all until we were late or our AF woukd come.
I hope you get some good news.

Sorry to to Duggs - what a shame.

Congrats to everyone else too who have had BFPs and good scans

I'm taking a month off then trying again after my last stim
Iui ended in a CP.

Well I have had no luck with the ovitrelle tonight, stupidly didn't think about it when with Mr S to ask where to get it! He did initially say tomorrow night so have emailed Louise to see if I can wait until then as can get it delivered locally tomorrow evening. I think will follow your advice Ari, god it's a nightmare and feeling v disheartened.

Pebbles forgive me if in mistaken but boots do ovitrelle and letrozole ?? I'm sure that's where I always go??

When I had it from Boots previously they had to order it in, will give them a go. Thanks Duggs

Not always the way - can u call a few chemists up and find out who has it in? Even the big super markets must so as I've never had to get anything ordered in??

I have tried loads of places but nobody has it, just tried Boots and they had never even heard if it and don't keep many injections. Tried supermarkets too last night......

pebbles whereabouts are you located? I don't know if it would help you but I have an Ovitrelle in my fridge that I got for this next cycle (which is of course on hold right now while my body decides what it's doing with this is-it-isn't-it pregnancy) ... not sure how I could get it to you but I'd be happy to give it to you if it helps? I'm in Woking (although working in Farnborough), if there's a way we could get it to you you're very welcome to it?

abney Lots of luck for your 8-week scan today!

Ari thank you so much for the offer, what a sweetie you are. I am in Hertfordshire so bit if a way! Have spoken to Louise and she said tonight is fine, place that was going to order it in have now told me it is discontinued with their supplier so think I am just going to have to drive to bloody Epsom.