Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake overindulgence

[WhyAlwaysBoris]

Continuation of the last thread.

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your metalling moments. All welcome so come on in and get settled into the plush sofas!

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So settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

don't blame you for not contacting the reported boris i couldn't think of anything worse than having your story told in public.

hope you are ok at the scan mumtum will pray for a miracle but if it doesn't happen i hope you get the peace of mind you are looking for.

my local consultant just rang me she wanted to know how it went in london with raj rai. she is sending my letter off to liverpool today!

strange thing has just happened though. i have just got af only 20 days after last 'af' ended. i am now not sure if the last one was af or not. i haven't had any ewcm this cycle which is unusual for me. i had period pains for a couple of days but thought it might be ov pains. wtf cycles - gotta love 'em!

it has prompted me to get my ass in gear and get on the bvits bandwagon. i have just ordered these: www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=506

hope they are the right thing. didn't want to go for the b100's yet as these seem scary enough - the %rda is really high.

loving the hitler cat martha - i have three cats they are well cute!!

Wow pebs that sounds really good that the consultant phoned you of their own accord, just to be useful! Hopefully that means the referral will go through really quickly now.

WTF is a mean old thing but hopefully this means your body has now 'reset' itself and you will now have lovely regular cycles so that when you have your test results and it is TTC you will have much cycle knowledge to help you.

I bought the B100's at Manda's suggestion. Have stopped taking them now in case there is a bfp inside, but had 8 left in the bottle left so am trying to make DH take them instead surely must be helpful somehow.

I'm off to torture the garden for a bit!

Thanks everyone, although it freaked me out a bit, it sounds fairly normal to have this kind of thing after a mc. We're off to Paris on eurostar this aft so am keeping fingers crossed! Oh the irony, this hol was booked as a romantic getaway post mc haha!

Thank u all of you lovely ladies for your support and absolutely not inappropriate boris that was a lovely thing to say so thank you.

Well I've had the scan and despite my misgivings the scan lady and early preg nurse were very supportive . This time I properly saw the scan pics and they sat and compared each of the measurements with me. It hadn't changed the outcome . I will still be in tomorrow for the erpc. But what it has done was exactly what i needed. It has settled my mind that despite the fact nothing is yet breaking down / collapsing ( please excuse terminology) the sac is infact ' shrivelling' it has got 5 mm smaller than at Fridays scan which when at its largest it was only 30mm that's a great deal of shrinkage. obviously you would expect growth not shrinkage. There is now no obvious foetal pole either when 2 weeks ago there was so things naturally are beginning to mc. I have now been convinced and assured i have suffered a mmc and so feel more accepting of the need for the erpc. I will always feel the guilt at the way in which I got the scan but I truly don't know if I could have gone through the erpc without having had this confirmation.

I do feel that a mmc is so very cruel. Had I not have had an understanding gp who sent me for early scans I'd still be thinking I was 9 weeks preg as I've had no obvious mc signs. Tbh from the very little natural mc signs we saw today on the screen it could well have been a couple more weeks til I found out possibly even at my nt scan. I just find that so sad I know other ladies on here have had exactly that if not worse and I truly do not know how you have coped but admire that you have.

Enough of the me me now thank u once again all of you. Xxxx

oh mumtum i am so sorry however i also felt your 'relief' at knowing that the ERPC is the right thing do do, does that make sense? you can now go ahead with the Op knowing that there is no room for error. I am so sorry though, and i agree with your comments about those who go on thinking they are pregnant. My MC started at 10 weeks and they thought it had started around 8 weeks so i guess i was in that situation. Like you i would rather have known.

I will be thinking of you tomorrow x

Mumtum hope you are feeling more at ease with the erpc now. after my first mc i had a few 'what if' moments. i think the hopsital are pretty certain everything is over before the send you for erpc. it is bloody awful turning up to the scan thinking everything will be ok to be told otherwise - i am sure a few on here can relate to that.

boris i was amazed the consultant rang me - it was very strange. she used to work at liverpool so i hope that helps to speed my referral up. i will ring liverpool next week if i haven't heard anything as i want to make sure there is little room for error.

i am going to start off on the b50's and see how it goes. lol at your dh taking the rest of your pack i hope it sorts his cycle out!!!

Mumtum, I completely understand why you did what you did and I am pleased your mind has been set at rest before tomorrow. I asked for a rescan after my mmc- I could not believe it was true and thought they must have made a mistake. I hope everything goes well for you tomorrow. X

Boris, I haven't read your thread but will do. I hope something positive comes of the fuss and you get an appointment.

Dorita, I have had what you describe after both my mc. It is the lovely named 'retained products'. Just keep an eye on it. With both of mine, I ended up being prescribed antibiotics as a precaution. If it comes back, I would contact your GP. Keep an eye on your temperature. Also, do a cheapo pregnancy test to confirm bfn. I ended up being examined by my GP, who confirmed my cervix was closed, but often if there is more left, your cervix stays a bit open and you have these gushes of bleeding with 'stuff'.

Love to everyone else x

mumtum I'm glad it's put your mind at rest- iykwim and you can go ahead knowing it's the right thing. It is cruel, you're right, and I'm just glad you've been able to hold hands with others on here. Take care x

mumtum, so glad the scan put your mind at rest.

NT done - risk of chromosomal abnormalities that of a 15 year old girl despite being geriatric person of nearly 40 (1/1750 for DS, 1/3200 for Edwards/Pataus), so am very very very very happy. Nose bone, bladder, stomach, heart, skull, spine, requisite number of limbs all visible.

Jaffa Doritos Martha and leedy thank u it's nice to have your support and for excellent young and nubile nt results needy I'm so so pleased for you

And to all you ladies for not chastising me after my porky telling this morning I truly am grateful that you haven't banned me from the thread I don't know where woman got support before mn truly I don't!

Boris I briefly read your other thread and am shocked and horrified I don't know what to suggest but I don't blame u for avoiding the reporters! Safely hide in Marthas gruffalo cave for a bit we will all protect and support you xxx

I'm a little amazed myself after leaving the hosp after my scan my mum suggested going to my gp and asking if they could do anything to encourage the epu that I have had 3 mc if u include the cp in march last year. ( my epu flatly refused to consider this) which is heartbreaking as I feel I have now had 3 all of which stopped growing between 5-6 weeks surely there must be something in that ?!?! Anyhow on the off chance called the gp who said to pop in at 5.30 tonight though my regular gp wasn't in so I'd see another partner who has been surly and offish in the past. Needless to say I didn't hold out much hope but I hold my hands up. Went in all strong explained my history and current circumstances and she totally agreed was very encouraging about being investigated further and has instantly referred me via choose and book to the recurrent mc specialist at my hospital. She has also preordered blood tests ( have to have these in 5 weeks when things gave settled after the erpc) to get the ball rolling. Quite frankly I'm amazed but can only see this as a good thing right?!? ( only pain was the choose and book sys was down so I've had to leave it with them to choose and book for me and let me know in the week ) One thing though she wasn't sure what my products they remove tomorrow would be tested for other than molar pregnancy and to confirm that they were poc is that right or should I demanding requesting any other tests on it ?

Still terrified of actual erpc tomorrow though but i guess that's normal

Leedy those are brilliant statistics :)

Mumtum glad you were at least able to get reassurance about the need for the erpc. Will be thinking of you. I hope it is a relief after all you have been through.

Really good that you are going to get some help from the recurrent mc specialist. Well done for asking.

I seem to remember that someone on the thread once said that Prof Regan's book says (third degree info!) that all loses should be tested, even early ones.

Hopefuly someone knows more than me about that.

I have had really bad pains last hour or so, keep thinking i'm about to start bleeding but haven't yet.

Have to go back to Croy Hosp tomorrow for another blood test, slightly worried i'll get lynched the moment i walk though the door.

Lots of drama on my other thread buy no actual appointment with the consultant yet.

My hospital test for molar as a matter of course. I had to fight a bit for genetic testing on the last mc. I would ask tomorrow if I were you.

Good news about your gp. You can join my waiting for tests club now. Five weeks sounds about right for blood tests. If can take a while to get the results - maybe six weeks if you have karyotpying done. I would recommend the book by Lesley regan it's my bible!

Hi all - thanks for the warm welcome.
Mumtum - I don't blame you for wanting a second scan. My first scan was in the private sector and so as a matter of course i was rescanned when I was referred in to the EPU. I'm not sure I'd have been happy having an ERPC without confirmation by a second scan.

As for the ERPC - it was much less traumatic than I expected. I was admitted at 7am and discharged by 11.30am. Had light bleeding for around 10 days after but no pain. Will be thinking of you

Hi mumtum just a quickie to say I'm thinking of you. Good luck tomorrow.

De-lurking to say good luck to mumtum for tomorrow and what you did today was right. You needed to know for your own peace of mind; you should feel no guilt. I am glad the GP is referring you too.

leedy great news on the scan front.

Welcome to the new ladies - sorry you find yourselves here but they are a great bunch.

boris i have everything crossed that you have a slow burner

manda congratulations on the baby

me? i think i am still pregnant, according to doctor i am 8 weeks today. feel sick, ache and tired; no proper bleeding. DH has offered an early scan; i am too scared. I still have not got an appointment for my 12 week scan. Don't think i want one anyway. What if nothing is there? or there is no heartbeat? why did i think i can do this?!

Anyway enough madness from me. Thinking of you, even those not mentioned. Oh and martha glad you got an early booking in appointment!

Evening Senoras, I am back from Spanish Spain and I packed some sunshine to bring back with me. So much to catch up on but I just wanted to say good luck to Mumtum I will be thinking of you.

MrsPear knowledge is power - take the scan. You know it makes sense.

Update on Syphilisgate - the hospital called and I do not have it (ok so I knew I didn't have it but nice to be told and stop me crazily googling to see if you can catch it in a sauna...). What I do have is raised liver counts so I need to have a whole other batch of tests to make sure no problem now that will affect the baby and that the dreaded PE doesn't strike me again. Anyways - here I am. No more bleeding and I am still pregnant. Blimey - roll on viability - maybe I will just sleep in a cave till about 25 weeks.

Will catch up with all I have missed (and it looks like a lot) soon. Night night all.

Mumtum - good work today re referrals & white lies; am v impressed! But dead sorry for the bad news. Best of luck for tomorrow, hope it all goes by quickly and you can start to forget about the horridness ASAP.

Leedy - brilliant stats, you lucky thing. Am pleased to see another pushing-40-er on this thread. I'm not far off...

As for me, still bleeding, still positive hcg, still waiting. Got some new gadgets in the post today - a thermometer and ovulation testing kit, so as soon as I can I'll be charting & plotting like a good'un. Got to have something to focus on eh?

Had wedding dress fitting today, was all a bit weird as had to explain weight fluctuation (went up lots, then down a bit, now just have wonky boobs!) and the dress fitter (who knew about the mc) just kept saying crazy things like "don't worry, at least you fit into your dress" but is very young so obviously doesn't "get it". Went down the pub with boyf afterwards, but as ever ended up a bit tiddly & talking about how much I want a baby, with him saying you only get what you want when you forget about how much you want it. There's probably a lot of truth in that, but I find it so hard to forget how much I want a baby. Catch 22?

Hoorah for old birds! I'm (whispers) 37 this year. So impressed with Leedy's NT results. There is hope for us all.

boris I've just read your other thread. I'm so sorry you and you DH have been put through that. It makes me so cross you were treated in that way.

Busy day tomorrow. Sleep well everyone. hands out steaming mugs of hot chocolsye

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Welcome back midget - and thanks for the sunshine:)

Great news leedy those are great odds

mumtum I'll be thinking of you tomorrow xxx

Well, I had an interesting day at work today - I fainted in the middle of the office. I was a little embarrassed quick trip to the mat unit confirmed very low blood pressure, but I did get to hear a baby heartbeat - every cloud has a silver lining.

Thinking of you tomorrow mumtum I was terrified waiting for my erpc, but I found the time in hospital very healing, I finally got to rest and deal with it all. And came home feeling sore and sad but a little bit more together. Take care xxx

Hi gate crashing hope you do not mind. To give boris some ? Advice I would contact PALS they are patient advisory team or similar in the hospital are for the patient. They should be able to find out if this lady is indeed the one you have had dealings with in the past. If she is they should be able to sort out someone else for you to contact instead. Sorry you have had such a rubbish time appalling treatment.

Just so you know I am not some crazed lady. Have had 4 mc and poss failing pregnancy now at 7 weeks, slow heartbeat, small foetal pole and haemorrhage. Rescan Friday. May join this thread if you do not mind but can be pretty rubbish at posting. Also I really am an old bird

mumtum you will be in my thoughts today

kirrin hope you are feeling better, must have been embarassing as well as worrying.

welcome to bugsylugs sorry about your m/c's and good luck for friday's scan.

thanks for the advice- this is actually what i did yesterday - via email- (can't do anything there i haven't got written proof of or they just lie!) it sounded quite rude- if this person is x they are not to have contact with my notes- but not a lot of other options at this point.

mumtum I am thinking of you today. lots.

excellent stats leedy i am another old bird, this LO is due a week before my 40th birthday! which is ironic really because i couldnt celebrate my 30th properly as i was in the middle of exams and i will be celebrating my 40th with a newborn rather than in Bruges (which is where DH was going to take me) not that i am complaining as i am 5+2 today woo hoo!