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May this thread bring us luck and lots of support through the journey of life after the death of our little ones.

Yay fan fantastic news, so happy for you

Fan love how early you were up!! Congratulations lovely. I'm so thrilled for you and dh. Wow!

Good luck at work today Angel and MrToo

Blizy glad Alfie is settling in

Ah fan- don't worry about me, I have my fur baby to occupy me. I am so thrilled for you both. Are you working with chemicals today? You may to tell your boss asap. Hope you have a good day, enjoy your excitement!

Thank you blizy fingers crossed for you this month, hope the love of alfie will help you get that BFP.

too and wtw I always get up at 5.30 on a work day also DH being a postie goes to work early and wanted me to do it before he left.

I've been working with chemicals for the past two weeks, I hope everything is ok.

Ah Fan I'm sure it will be fine, but I would definitely speak to work soon. When is your supervisor back? If it's tomorrow could you just have sick day today? You must be in shock. You said it would happen if you were moved back on to tools QA saw me at 8 weeks for early scan x

fan I would suggest making an appointment with your GP today, and ask the questions about your work environment and your diet. Those are the most important things to establish what to do - and official advice from your GP will help your conversation with your supervisor. What did you do with Fi? Do you have the names of the chemicals so you can provide them when asked?

However, as my father (retired GP, in a health system where GPs, not midwives look after pg women) has always said, pregnancy is not an illness. It is a wonderful thing that our bodies can do. Enjoy today!!

blizy here's hoping for you!!

Thank you wtw and miasmum when I was pg with Fi I had an appointment with a doctor from occupational health, he said I couldn't do anything really, as there's a risk from every part of my job. So I got put in the office, but if I get put in the office now, then everyone will know that that must mean I'm pg.
I'm going to hang around the yard till my manager gets in and see if I can arrange a meeting with HOUR today and him to sort it out.

That meant to say H R bloody phone.

Isn't there anything gentle you could do, like plant flowers? For today, I mean, not as a long-term solution.

Or make up a sore back for a while? Or get your supervisor to find a 'project' or 'training' for you to do for the next couple of months? Maybe even a secondment to another department for cross-team improvements?? That way, at least you can keep things quiet for a while.

fan YAY! you had you BFP a month after mine! so exciting! x

Fan that's brilliant, hurrah! . You can do SW when PG I think, speak to the leader person but I'm sure a friend did this and they just gave her more sins to eat (or is that WW?). Good luck with work, will it matter so much if people do know?

Yay Fan! That's marvellous news xxx

OMG fan how fantastic. I was thinking of you late last night and hoped that while i hadnt found time to log in I would have missed a BFP announcement. I am truly so very happy for you and Mr fan xx
Welcome back blue and massive congrats to you also. Feeling sick is rubbish yet somehow you worry when you dont!!
angel hope your first day at work goes well
cheese what a scare with little Ella, so glad all was okin the end.
blizy congrats on the kitten, we have a snowshoe cat called Toby, the most chilled out cat in the world!!
august glad your move went well, hope you are settling and your new home brings you all the happiness that you deserve
spilt hope you get the house!!! We get the keys to our new one tomorrow though the sale of this one is still completing so we can take our time with the move......good job really with a 3 week old a a section wound!!
too pleased that your bean bundle is doing so well
Hello to all that I havent mentioned, hope all is well xx

ruede I had a cp in july, so I don't want anyone knowing for a while, DH and I don't want to jinx it. And also to have all those worried faces, just got one off my boss! He's sent me out on a supervisery role todayan so that's good, got a doctors appointment tonight, so see what she thinks.

Thanks guys, I've had a little cry already, which made me feel very sick, think the sickness is kicking in early. I already have a mental taste, have done all weekend but didn't want to believe it.

Going to have to think of a bump name already, Fi was bubble, then we had beanbag which ended in cp. So have to think of a new one.

I totally understand that Fan I told my boss at 8 weeks once I'd had the early scan. Didn't then tell any colleagues until 14 weeks so after 12 week scan and still at 19 weeks Katie, lots of friends and some family still don't know!! I've been scared of jinxing it all along. Rationally we know it's silly as telling people isn't going to make a difference but I was so convinced early on that I wouldn't even make it this far. What was Angel's mantra - 'Today I am pregnant' I repeat that to myself daily!! One day at a time Fan. Glad your boss was understanding and has found a good solution for you today xx

fan fantastic!!! So happy for you, what a long awaited well deserved BFP. Aaw how wonderful, you have a tiny tiny little person tucked up growing inside you! Tis an amazing thought. Wishing you an utterly textbook and unremarkable pg with a lovely little baby to take home at the end xx

razz how exciting about your house tomorrow. Though I bet you are feeling the pressure today! Hope you have lots of help.

House wise.. I phoned the agents, and tbh as expected the vendors think there is enough interest that they have decided they want sealed bids in by noon on Friday. Decision will be made that afternoon. There will be at least 3 offers including ours. So we'll try but am remaining philosophical as we can only scrape together 2k over the asking price and expect it to go for more. But its worth a shot just in case. In the meantime its a lovely sunny day and I love our dinky house and Freya is cuddled up sleeping on me and I am comfy in my dressing gown smiling about fan's news. Can be perfectly happy without wonder-house

angel and mrToo hope you are having good first days back showing off your baby pics and catching up on the gossip. Hope you're both feeling ok xx

Gawd yes I know what you mean about feeling uncomfortable telling people. My boss knew pretty much straight away (I also work with chemicals, do manual handling and get quite sick v early) but loads of work folk still didn't know when I left at 30 weeks. I couldn't find the courage to say "I am pregnant" because I was so scared I wouldn't get a live baby, and everyone else's immediate response was to be excited and I just couldn't manage to be.

wtw I went to a big family do at 19 weeks in a baggy jumper and no one guessed

fan glad you're doing something appropriate today and ((hugs)) for the sickness, such a miserable feeling. You're doing so well wtw, nearly half way to term and only 5 weeks to viability. One day at a time and we are all cheering you on xx

Woohoo - huge congrats fan, that is such good news, I'm really really pleased for you.

Fan you ll still be fine with SW as it's only healthy eating. Xxx
Spilt any news on your house? X
Too managed ok today? X
Razz hi xxx
Hi all; well we made out & survived!!! Phebs fine at nursery after a Shakey start. She woke up sniffing with a cold this am then after been dressed Ant was giving her a bottle she promptly chucked it all up!!! So was bathing her at 07:00 this morning!!!
Anyhow , nursery said she was fine , work a bit boring didn t really do much work!!! Managed to avoid seeing any patients just dealt with results instead. Sorted out my AL, childcare vouchers & realised I loose my Bh's whilst on mat leave!!!
Busy this pm since getting in off to get weighed soon. Xxx
Love to all xxxx

fan It's odd isn't it, so pleased that you are pregnant though! I remember that dream still as well, very strange, I'm sure it was just a coincidence. Have you worked out your due date? Definitely speak to work right away or just call in sick until you can speak to someone there, or refuse to work with the chemicals now xx

blizy I'll try!

razz how are you doing?

whatever we didn't tell anyone until a couple of weeks before the 20 week scan this time, although we had to tell the dcs just before 12 week scan as we had a car crash and I had to tell the paramedics in front of them! We told my parents and dh's mum right away though. I thought things would go wrong the whole way through, I really was totally convinced that everyone here would have their babies and be fine but that I would lose another. It was totally irrational but made perfect sense to me.

spilt I hope you do get the house for the price you offer, fingers crossed for you on that. Agree though, you will be happy no matter what! x

angel glad work went well :) x

I'm feeling so irritable the past few days, everything seems to be getting to me. I think the scare with Ella has affected me more than I thought. Barely any sleep last night, Ella was up feeding until 3.30am before I could put her down, had no sleep at all until then and then was up again 2 hours later. Luckily managed a couple of hours this morning while dh looked after the dcs or I'd be falling asleep by now!

Hi All, Ive decided not to continue with SW, I have the book and will continue with the healhty eating. Im going to save the money I would spend each week there on a little fund for the baby.

I m a bit fuming to be honest. Just back from the doctors, and it wasnt till I sat in the car and thought about what happened that I think I dont like them.
I told her I was pg, she said congratulations, I told her I had a stillbirth (as she didnt have my notes up) And also that I had had a cp in july. I tried to tell her I was scared and anxious about the future but she turned the converstaion on to why Fi had died. I then told her that I worked as a gardener and last time occupational health had advised that I worked in the office, she laughed and said that the pregnant belly was very robust and that carrying a strimmer, or pushing a mower all day was fine, women in Thailand have healhty babies all the time, while doing manual work!
She has put me on the early referal list for a consultant, and then on the midwife list but they will not contact me till 10-12 weeks. She then said oh youve only just missed your period then. No shit lady, I do know the risks, I know its early but obviously I need reassurance or something otherwise I wouldnt have come in so early!
I am stunned, no asking if I wanted an early scan , No asking if I was a smoker, or had a drinking problem, If I was upset happy at the news, did I need anything from them.
Dh is fuming that she brought up Thailand, he has looked up the infant stillborth rate in that country and its 17%, nearly four times higher than ours!

wtw how did you get an early scan? Im wishing now I hadnt left Dr Hatfull.

Oh Fan, that sucks. Will you still be with the same MW? I called my community MW the day after I got the BFP and she arranged the early scan for me. In our trust it is the MWs or consultants who do everything pg-related, not the GPs. Can you contact your MW or consultant directly?

Cheese, I'm not surprised you're having a bit of a delayed reaction to the scare over Ella. Hope Ella sleeps a bit more tonight and lets you get some rest. Can you nap a bit during the day?

Today has gone fine - didn't leave the house, shower or dress, but then I didn't need to! I napped for a couple of hours this afternoon when Maia slept, although I'm strangely tired even so. She's asleep again now, so I might try to nap some more. DH is snoozing in front of the TV - going back to work has tired him out!

Razz, how are you and Samuel getting on? How is your wound doing - has the infection cleared up? Take it easy moving. I hope you have lots of help!

Spilt, hope you get your house after all!

too unfortunatly I moved towns so my old midwife (who was a bit wet to be honest ) is in a different town so my midwife this time will be from a different base. It will be the same hospital though, they have said that I have to wait till she rings me. I will do this but I will be making sure she will look after me and that I want more appointments than every 6 weeks at the beginning. Im hoping she will be more compassionate! If she is not then I will see if this consultant is any better, the doctor did say I can request my old consultant, which might be a good idea, just have to see.
I just feel really annoyed and uncared for. Glad DH is here, he was going to ring the practice up and complain. Bless him. But i told him not to bother. We will just look after ourselves.

I am worried though as the base where the midwives for this town are based is the place that told me not to worry about bleeding at 13 weeks last. I had to go to my gp to get them to send me to the hospital. So I am scared that they will be incompetant.