We're all in this together - Mool and the Gang's magic flying mattress ride to Switzerland!

[festiemum]

Right, I bit the bullet and started the new thread. Hope it's OK. Here's to mucho more laughter, tears, support, tea and biscuits! xxx

BFP Neverland

Rusulka
Festie
Lilliana

Sitting aloft mattress and dtd

MooleyWooley (30) TTC #1 - cycle 11; AF due 09 May
AlexEliza (35) TTC #1 - cycle 3; AF due 02 April (approx - not sure!!)

bonking for fun and enjoying the mattress without TTC
iloveberries (31) having a TTC break after ectopic

Waiting to POAS

chipsandmushypeas (25) ttc#1 cycle 2; AF due 22nd March

Brilliant berries - good to see you on the list! Hope you're doing ok. x

Hey disco, how's things? Hope you've managed to catch up with some rl people - that's really important and will help no end, I'm sure! x

Oh flour, what a shitty day you had! Hope you're ok and ready to embark on a shiny new cycle!

Glad you've seen the dr lil - is it all sinking in yet?

Hi jam, sorry, chips! I read some of that thread about your name change and thought, wtf?! But like the new name too! How many dpo are you now?

alex cool about the ewcm and temp rise - all sounds good for ov to me! Fx for you!

moo - you must be gearing up for your HSG now. Bet you're a right mix of emotions about that one! Be good to get it done now so you can proceed though I'm sure!

Where's rusulka? Hasn't she found us yet!? Hope you're ok rus and the mil isn't driving you nuts!

I'm ok; much less sick now, but soooo tired today, feel like my drink's been spiked. Having crampy pullings too, sure that's just wombal stretching though! Scan is on Friday, whole week seems like a build up to fri iykwim. Looking forward to it, and a bit nervous too as you'd expect. Feel like its such a landmark and I can go public/ relax a bit etc once it's done!

Just noticed rus has been on albeit briefly!

I don't know. I come on, do a little comment, and Festie goes and ignores me. Bloody rude.

MiL copage is just about ok. She's been helping by washing up, but unfortunately if what we've eaten wasn't balck on a fucking white background, the whole lot needs to be washed again. Regretting the contrasting black/white dinner sets. Will hide all the black ones I think, lol.

Glad to hear everyones doing reasonably well/ got appointments to look forward to/ getting on ok.

Managed to countersink those frigging holes today!!!! Whoop! Came back from town, picking up obscene amount of guff I ordered (do I really need 6-9 month babygrows yet? No.), and the neighbours were just going out in their car, so I thought I'd take the opportunity- by the time I got upstairs with my hammer drill (fuck yeah!) they'd come back. But I thought fuck 'em and did it anyway... and once I'd taken the drill off the hammer setting it was a lot less noisy Only person I inconvenienced was MiL doing her online stuff. Ha! Oh dear never mind.

What else...

Prepared a load of seed trays and when DH got home we sowed some seeds, excitement! He hasn't really done it before, so it's nice to see him getting all excited about gardeny stuff. We planted about a squillion sunflowers in the garden yesterday, he keeps asking excitedly if they've sprouted yet.

Can't remember if I said or not, but I knitted a baby hat! It was just one of those knit a rectangle, stitch together, ta-da jobbies, but I had to purl, so I'm well chuffed. Also, it looked like it had ears, so I embroidered eyes, a nose and whiskers on it.

Want to make a blanket now, but none of my needles are long enough. Will have to wait til next month, as I've been told off by DH for spending the food budget on Peanut and the garden. DILLIGAF? Lol.

Had appointment with fat controllers (3!) yesterday, they're happy with me and think I'm awesome (if obsessive compulsive). Got to hear Peanut's heartbeat, which was lovely, and should get scan date through soon.

Generally having an awesome week!
Hope it rubs off!

Bonjour everyone.

Flour I'm sorry about your Great Aunt. And the electricity and the fact that your DH is away. What a horrible combination of events.

Jam/Chips your name never offended me! In fact I think I've only just got it, durrr. Anyway, you don't know that your period is on her way, remember that early pregnancy symptoms are identical to period side effects a lot of the time!

Berries the bleeding is a hard reminder isn't it...I'm finding it difficult using pads, I hate them but I don't want an infection. I also get the 12 week baby good scan thing. I don't know if I'd feel happy until after the 20 week scan tho' TBH and even after all that I think I'd be pretty paranoid about stillbirth...and then cot death...oh crikey it just goes on and on. Still, I suspect that is what being a parent is like. The TTC thing - on the day I had the scan I felt two things, that I was incredibly sad and that I wanted to try again as soon as possible. I felt really determined even though I felt terrible.

In your situation though where your own health was threatened and you have had surgery I can completely understand why you want to wait a while. Another thing I understand is your desire to make love with your DH, I really wanted to when we got home after the scan, and talking to my DP later he felt the same way...I asked the nurse when it was safe to start having sex again and she said when the bleeding stopped. It might be different for ectopic pregnancies but I don't see why not...it's all to do with whether the cervix is open or closed, if it's open there is a risk of infection.

As for the perfect age gap, I don't think there is such a thing as perfect. My sister and I are 18 months apart and get on great and my Dad and aunt are 13 years apart but are each other's favourite sibling. I am still annoyed for the trivial reason that my October baby would've been great maternity leave timing. But I suppose that having a little baby in the cold weather wouldn't be good either.

Lil glad the appointment went well and that the doctor was lovely.

Alex thanks for nice comments, my sister has come to stay and it has cheered me up. I hope the mystery ovulation date clears up soon, but the EWCM sounds like it's on it's way if you have already!

Mooley well you've got three exciting things up in the air haven't you...the Hsg, your DPs job and the house. Was it Meatloaf who said 'Two out of Three Ain't Bad?' Hope it's three out of three for you!

Today has been ok. Some crying but not too much. Physically I've been ok all day but I've just had to take some painkillers due to an achey womb and the bleeding has slowed down a lot. My DP had his first day away from me today which is why my sister is down to stay, really didn't fancy being on my own. Normally he'd have taken the day off but it was the last day at this particular job for him and all his colleagues, who he has worked with for 9 years so it was too important to miss.

I am so so glad that we have our puppy though. He's grown up a lot but is still utterly puppyish and delightful and capable of raising a smile with me and DP even when we both feel crap. We had such a lovely day with him last week at Camber Sands, a totally unexpected bittersweet day as I should've been at work. Anyway, tomorrow is going to be a week since we had the scan, I can't believe it's been a week already. Right, another glass of wine for me and then some ice cream I think - there are some compensations to being a semi-invalid!

Hi ladies just a quick one as on phone so will report in full when I get into the office but I just wanted to say to berries and disco that I think you are both amazingly strong and courageous. I can only imagine what you are going through and how tough it is for you both. It would be so easy to walk away from MN but here you both are, taking time to share in everyone's TTC journeys despite what you are going through. May you continue to grow in strength and remember we are always here to listen, laugh and cry with you.

That is all

Berries and Disco what she said ^^^ Put much better than I ever could.

Rusulka glad you finally got the countersinking done and oh well to disturbing mil! I think you are a saint to have her there that long.
Yay for the fat controllers being happy, hopefully that will allow you to have the birth you want. Can we see some pics of your knitting please?

Disco the puppy sounds gorgeous, glad he can raise a smile.

Jam I saw your name thread too - I didn't get it till I read the thread so never had a problem with it! Any sign of af yet? Hope she is still awol.

Festie glad you are feeling less sick and hope the scan goes well. Can't wait till we get that far, although am sure like disco said I will then worry until the 20 week scan, then until you get to having a viable baby .....!

Berries love the added category on the stats!

alex how are the temps going?

It hasn't sunk in yet - I'd almost (I said almost I'm sure I don't really) like some ms which might make it more real! Dh is being lovely, which has surprised me a bit as he is generally a 'stop moaning and get on with it' kind of person (not horrible, just practical!) but he is researching what I should be eating and making lists of jobs he needs to do around the house!

Weirdly I'm feeling funny about telling people. I'm sure everyone will be excited for us, I just don't want loads of fuss. Dh was asking how we should tell people once we have had the scan and I just don't want too!!! (you guys don't count, I couldn't wait to tell you!)

Rusulka loving the fact that you have knitted a hat for the baby and turned it into a cat as well. Genius. And whoop whoop for planting. Some of mine are doing better than others and I am not sure why. My tomatoes are usually the first to go and they have made a feeble attempt. Don't want to keep watering them because they will get waterlogged but at the same time do not wish to let them dry out as that is equally as counterproductive. Not sure what to do.

I love sunflowers, but not as much as daisies. Am growing some gerbera's from seed (that's not going very well either). But it's not really the season for daisies so going to have to be patient a little while longer. We had daisies as the flowers and theme for our wedding :)

Glad you got those screws countersunk :) and that you managed to exact revenge over your dear MiL

Festie glad that you are not feeling as sick. And I bet you are super excited about the scan on Friday. I am excited for you

Disco hope the puppy that is fast becoming a adult continues to bring you much joy.

Chips any news from you?

Alex hope you are doing ok.

I cracked out the slow cooker this morning - it's on low right now cooking away at home; can't wait to get in and not have to actually cook. Have also been doing Zumba on the Wii and bloody hell is it tiring. My whole body hurts. Annoyingly though, both my weight and my BMI have increased. What the actual f*ck!?!?!?

MiL and FiL are calling around tonight to bring some dietary milkshakes etc and I am hoping that it will give me a kickstart; only a weeks supply, but means that I will only be taking in 600 calories a day and coupled with the exercise, i am hoping the weight will just drop off. DH and I have a £50 bet to see who can lose 2 stone first. He has a lot more to lose than me though, so I think I am going to be £50 lighter in the not so distant future.

Am getting very anxious about my HSG; more so because I hear so many conflicting stories about it. Some people say it is uncomfortable and a bit crampy, others say it hurts like a mother 'ucka and others say it needs to be taken early in the cycle (luckily I am early in my cycle now, but with my lengthy cycles, the hospital would not have known that!). Just want it done and out of the way now. Really not looking forward to it.

Right, best tend to this bloody planners and there sh*tty letters.

Will pop in again soon.

Lil I know what you mean about fuss, I hate being the centre of attention and like to just fade into obscurity.

With regards telling people; tell them when you are ready. At the end of the day, as the baby grows, it's going to get to the point when you are not able to hide the fact Maybe then you can let everyone know.

How soon do you need to tell work? My company has a policy that we tell our line manager as soon as possible so that HR can be informed, risk assessments properly done and time off can be rightly allocated for doctor appointments, scans etc.

moo I think you'll do great and the hsg will be just at the right time, I have a good feeling about it

disco I'm glad the puppy is a comfort. My kittens are the same when I'm sad animals are so intuitive.

Internets been down so I'm in my iPhone so it's hard to reply and read everything.

Big temp drop today below coverline, af due tomorrow and in having slight cramping now, guess she'll be here right on time!

Next cycle I just want to relax about it, no obsessing. Just going to swi and wait for af. No early testing either.

Want to book a weekend getaway with my dp to help de-stress, I'm thinking Italy. Always wanted to go. Has anyone been? I was thinking about Florence.

Chips I lived in Pisa for a year, visited Florence on a number of occasions. Beautiful place. From there you can visit such places as Lucca (old medieval centre is beautiful), Viareggio, Vinci and of course Pisa. I highly recommend it. Can easily visit these places in a day no problem. Rail travel over there, from what i can remember, is top notch :)

Sounds amazing moo, thank you! Can't wait to book it and take my mind off this ttc malarky.

I hate going to work. It seems like every woman who comes in is pregnant, has a baby and is pregnant. Everyone is so fertile it seems. Hmmph

Chips - I know what you mena about everyone being pg.... I never noticed it before but now that I want the same, they're everywhere!! I had a friend who was pg with twins and she said the same.....although she said it was mothers with twins that she saw everywhere! I love the idea of going to Italy.... I've only been to Rome and Venice (I thought Venice was really romantic and lovely) but I've always wanted to go to Florence as well. Can't believe that Moo was so lucky to live in Pisa for a year!

Moo - I can understand the anxiety over the HSG but I'm with Chips on that one, and think you should do just fine. We'll be holding your hand with you all the time!! (Sending positive thoughts and vibes your way).

Rusulka - love the knitting and I echo the please for some photos! I have been knitting away as well, a little baby's top with a hood. It's lilac (so could be unisex) and is just giving me something to do whilst I'm waiting....and hoping....and waiting..... (you get the drift).

Lil - I completely understand about the "when to tell" dilemma. I'm not so keen on telling MIL (although DH has said if I tell my mother, it's only fair to tell his - she has such a big mouth though, so every man and his dog will know before we know it!). And then I would feel uncomfortable about mentioning it at work - we have a similar policy that you're supposed to inform your line manager as soon as you can, but I always have a concern that when you tell people at work that you're pg, they look at you and treat you differently some how?

Berries - love the new addition to the stats list. Hope you're doing okay!

Disco - glad that the puppy's helping and making both you and DP smile!! Hope you enjoyed the wine and ice cream!

Festie - yay for scan on Friday - hope it all goes well, you must be so excited! Looking forward to hearing all about it!

My temp was high again today, so just need it to be high again tomorrow to confirm. I think it should be, the temps are much higher than the rest of the cycle and it all seems to be stacking up right. Then it's just 2ww again. Determined not to test before AF due, not to SS and not to obsess.....what will be will be.

Anyway, must get back to work - hope everyone enjoys the day!!!

Sorry ladies, quick question.... if I ov'd on Monday (and I'm fairly sure that I would have given the two high temps since) should I still be seeing lots of EWCM? Because I am - not sure if that means I'm still fertile and should be talking DH into SWI tonight or not? I had thought it was too late now!!

This morning there was a parrot in my cherry tree.

A FUCKING PARROT!!!

Thought I'd seriously lost the plot. Either that or redbush tea is hallucinogenic in large quantities...

Moo, the plants sound great. How big are the toms? Have you thought about feeding rather than watering? They like blood, they do. Vampire toms.

I planted a shitload of seeds last night with DH. Can't wait til the toms and pumpkins come up, I know they'll germinate within a week, he'll wee himself.

It's such gorgeous weather today, I'm off out to chop seven shades out of the arse bastard bamboo edging where the tree roots are.

I managed to somehow get MiL to buy the car seats. (Yes, 2!). I reasoned we'll need one for here, one for my parents' car. They were on offer at £60 off in Mothercare, then I got an email for an extra 10% off, so we just did it. Hell yeah! She has her uses. Also she's knitting those duck socks for me. 3 more weeks and she's abroad, and the biggest chunk is done! Whoop!
God I'm so manipulative. But hey- takes one to know one...

Disco and Berries sorry if I've not really been paying attention to you both, I never know what to say. Take care of yourselves, and enjoy the nice weather. Love-making (barf, sorry) is exactly what you both need, once any risk of infection/ injury has passed... it really does bring you closer together and that's actually how we conceived, so if you're travelling sans rain mac (ahem) I'm sure you'll get back there quickly.

Sorry, would just like to clarify that I'm not suggesting Disco and Berries make love to each other.

Unless you want to?

Well, I must say, this thread has taken a whole new direction I wasn't expecting!!! :o :o :o

I'm out. Old hag got me a day early too, making my luteal phase 10 days long.

Good luck alex x

Oh dear! I just managed to spit out a mouthful of tea (laughing) when I was reading Rusulka's posts! Well, I've cleaned up the keyboard and as I'm typing, it obviously still all works. But I have to agree with Festie, it was a whole new direction and definitely not expected!

Chips - sorry to hear that the hag got you this month! It still fails to amaze me that when we're doing everything absolutely possible to fall pg, it seems to take forever and yet, when you're not trying and have accidents, that seems to be the blo*dy time you do fall pg (when it's usually the worst possible thing that could happen!). Mother nature is just too cruel at times. I still 10 days is still a normal luteal phase though.....I'm sure the others will correct me if I'm wrong though. x

Rusulka I think I actually love you I love the accidental lesbian innuendo. I love even more the fact that there is a parrot in your garden.

My toms are about 1mm at the moment. I too am planting pumpkins........they're not growing either. I think I might have garden envy

Chips dude so sorry that hag got you. As Alex said mother nature can be cruel, but even a normal healthy couple only have a 20% chance each month. It's worse than the lottery!!! 10 day LP is not ideal but it's certainly in the healthy range. And if there is any comfort then at least it makes the 2ww a bit shorter!!!

Moo would just like to stress that none of mine are growing either, as I only sowed them yesterday and today, and I'm not THAT good.
Have also sowed some seeds from something, dunno what it was. Have labelled them as 'probably butternut squash'.

Glad my trippings up have provided some amusement. Also the parrot has gone now. Well, it went 2 mins after it landed, just long enough to get a couple of shots to prove I didn't imagine it... Think my parents are truly pissed off now. Lifelong veterans of having birds come into the garden and nest, like the blue tits, they were annoyed that a wren had been and peeped in our bird house, and I think are now not talking to me after the parrot (which is actually a parakeet).

I've also spent the afternoon in the garden attacking the edging as promised (with secateurs, lol). Have managed to make it look pretty and even all the way around... except near the non-functioning plum tree. I cut the pieces and inserted a section, but think I can re-do it and shape the bamboo around the tree roots for a nicer effect. Currently looks like Freddie Krueger did it.

Won't be knitting a blanket til I get circular needles- and MiL wants to make something on the same size needles, so I'll wait til she's bought those and made it, them borrow them.

Alex regarding the whole only getting pregnant when you're not trying thing, if it makes you feel any better, September is the worst possible time to be due, since everyone assumes it was a drunken christmas party or New Years' shag that got you in trouble.

If they did the maths regarding my due date, they'd see I ov'd on 14/12, so giant raspberries to whoever, man. Fuck 'em. Grump over!

Will photograph my knitted shenanigans and put pics on soon. Just need to convince toasty babbit upstairs to relinquish the hat and I don't think she'll want to...

Pics on!

Maybe there isn't enough time for the egg to implant even if fertilised? Apparently b vitamins can help so I'll be starting those

Rusulka, I think as Berries and I both want to conceive, staying in our present relationships would be more convenient from that point of view !

Chips bad luck...but don't worry unduly about the luteal phase thing, mine seems to go all over the shop (between 10 and 13 days) but I still conceived.

Moo that was a lovely thing to say, thank you.

Alex hope your temp stays up tomorrow!

Today has been up and down again but seems to be ending on an up with a dinner out with friends and my sister (and first non-drinking night since it all happened too, party tomorrow though so that's going to bite the dust!). My boobs hardly hurt at all now, which feels odd as they've been painful since the 19th of January, I'll be able to get out of bed without wincing now.