We're all in this together - Mool and the Gang's magic flying mattress ride to Switzerland!

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Right, I bit the bullet and started the new thread. Hope it's OK. Here's to mucho more laughter, tears, support, tea and biscuits! xxx

I've gone off everything Rus I'm living on jacket potatoes, chips, chicken kievs, nuggets. I'm ok with veg and fruit though thank goodness, but only a bit with each meal

Rus i don't blame you for not wanting to say anything yet either. I am not all that superstitious, but if i can keep some sort of balance in the universe, I will, and that means not blurting things out when there is plenty of time to discuss names etc. My brother, on the other hand, is not the same.......!

Chips sorry that you seem to be going through a rough time food wise, but hopefully it will calm down once you are through the first tri!!!

Lil love the way you told them. As Rus said though, typical of families to not actually respond straight away. At least you have told them now though.

For all chart stalkers out there, here?s my chart. Huge9(ish) temp drop this am and all other signs do no seem to point to ov where FF has suggested it (although I ov?d on CD16 last month). I also have cramps and a headache that I just can?t seem to shift. The ladies are not sore at all though, which also makes me think that I have not ov?d, as the pain at this point last cycle was horrendous.

Time will tell I suppose!!!

Right, my brain is clearly not functioning the way it should today. I have already missed a meeting because I went to the wrong office and now I have not actually posted my chart!!!

For anyone still interested (and still reading), here's my chart

My boobs were always sore after ov except the month I fell pregnant. No symptoms until after 9dpo so don't worry about symptoms yet moo let's hope the drop is implantation!

Thanks moo, only 5 weeks until I'm 12 weeks. Can't believe what I'm eating! I hate frozen chicken/nuggets/chips etc! I'm always healthy and eat fresh good food! Hope the baby doesn't just like all that stuff because of me! :)

Moo I'm the same as Chips, I had sore boobs every month apart from the month I was pg which was partly why I was so sure I wasn't pg! Also if you're feeling a bit buggy don't forget that will mess with your temps too. I'm not sure about your chart, will have to see that the rest of the week brings to be sure. Hope your day got better x

Rusulka I am craving cheese atm, def not off that! Sounds like you are v organised. We got the upstairs carpeted with lovely underlay yesterday so all warm and cosy :) Now need to get the rooms painted and we should be fairly sorted. Soo looking forward to the last few months of pottering and doing nice things.

Chips hope it doesn't last too long. I'm not off to many things but what I actually want to eat changes between me starting cooking it and it being ready to eat! Eat what you fancy and don't worry too much about it

Count how are you doing? x

Waves at Berries, Festie, Purple, Disco and anyone else I missed, hope you are all ok x

Hello everyone. Blimey it's really quite warm out there this morning. Still can't seem to ditch the winter coat though........just in case!

How is everyone doing?

Festie, Purple, Disco, Berries Alex - hope you are all ok.

Count how are you doing?

Lil not feeling buggy, just out of sorts. Have a headache that I just can't seem to shift, feeling nauseous off and on. Was absolutely freezing last night as well, could not get warm, so if anything, I would expect my temps to be lower. Had a wee dram last night to celebrate buying DH a Mac Mini and the fact that he had a meeting with a recruitment consultant and came out with a job for me instead. My temp is up this morning, not massively compared to the other temps, but still can't really say that it's because of ov and not because of the beer. Good that you and Chips didn't have the sore boobage though, makes me feel better.

All i can do is wait it out at the moment. Glad you have the carpet down and the painting will be done before you know it and you can relax :)

Hope everyone has a good day :)

Hmm, well I'm not saying anything moo! :) Chill and enjoy time with your Dh, what will be will be and worrying won't change it. Congrats on the job!

Still wet here but does seem warmer, not sure I'm confident enough to ditch the coat yet either though.

Whole 2 days with no TA ahead - better get to school and prepare for battle

hey everyone - i am hear but don't have any news to report. Just getting on with it and trying to remain positive. Had a wobble when I picked DS up from nursery yesterday as the other 3 mums with kids his age all had babies too - it's just gonna be like this and i just need to accept it. but i KNOW i will hold my next baby someday. I know I will.

I know my pregnancy isn't a great example but i also didn't have sore boobs the month i fell. Always do usually...

SOOOOO shattered at the moment - if i didn't know i wasn't then i'd think i was pg! just shows that ss is totally pointless.

I've decided to leave my job. This is quite a big deal and a difficult decision but the past few months has taught me a lot and i am so not happy there. I am now unable to think about work at all and just planning a more interesting and creative future! I also think the stress contributed to me taking a little while to fall pg last time so fingers crossed that removing that will help.

moo - sorry, i'm not a charter so i can't help you.

rusulka - your little one will be fine but i think it's nice to keep the name to yourself. gives a little surprise for people on the day, esp as they know the gender.

Lil - love the way you told your family. Great that they're all excited and happy. A special moment for you all.

chips - can you stomach smoothies? A few innocents a day will make sure baby is getting all he/she needs? (I'm a bit of a health nut so read quite a lot into the effect of the mum's diet on the baby).
Thanks for the good wishes BTW, really nice of you.

Anyway - better do some work..... just a little!

My reflexologist said have smoothies or juices if you can't eat, I have a juicer at home so I'll give one a try :)

Chips the baby won't have developed tastebuds yet, so I think you're safe for now!
I just had the biggest binge weekend at my parents' and have been worried Peanut will now have a terrible sweet tooth like me... whoops.

Moo chin up and soldier on. It is what it is, and we'll see what we see. :)

Lil I bet your upstairs is lovely and cosy now. Good luck with 2 days without your TA, it's going to be manic! But at least the days are relatively short compared to other working days!

Berries sounds like you've been doing a lot of thinking recently. If you want to leave your job and go for your dreams, then go for it! We're all behind you 100%. And I can confirm that leaving a stressful working environment really does have a positive impact on ttc.

Well, here in DIY-land, the shelves and clothes rails are up, DH's face was a picture when he got home. His chin hit the floor with delight. I've even hung up some of his t-shirts in spectrum order and he was so pleased to have everything in a proper place this morning while he was getting ready for work, rather than it hanging on one of those over door ironing hangers from Lakeland...

This morning I have polyfilla'd the bits where I drilled holes and the walls fell to bits and replastered the last hole in the wall under the window.
Going to have to skype MiL tonight once DH is home and tell her the sex as SiL, despite being told to shush has told a few colleagues, and we'll have to act fast to tell MiL before she finds out through Facebook... Grr. So we might get some appalling girly clothes as a result, but I'm trying to just shut up and be grateful and not so controlling!

Purple hope you're doing ok!

Hi all - thanks for all your support!
I'm healing and dealing!
Wave to ilove! Xx Moowoo and crew!
All those expecting and those just waiting!

Count glad that you are starting to feel better. I know that it will be a long road to recovery, but we are here for you every step of the way. xxx

Rusulka YEY for getting some more DIY done and at plastering. I am even more impressed than I was before :) With regards the MiL, were you not planning on telling her the sex yet? Your SiL was probably just super excited. Maybe you could point MiL in the direction of some baby clothes that you would like. Just drop a few subtle hints every now and then and cross everything that she gets the message.

Berries wow at you making the job leaving decision. Good for you. Have you got any ideas/plans of what you would like to do? Is it a change of career or just a change of company?

Well, the last few days have been a bit weird for me. Went out last night to celebrate me getting an interview for the job that my DH inadvertently put me forward for. Was driving home last night and got a voicemail on my phone to say that I had an interview for it next Wednesday. I only forwarded my CV yesterday morning. Yikes. Like Berries I too have been thinking about leaving my job for a very long time, and this new opportunity offers better pay, is closer to home and a car :) just got to get through the interview now.

In TTC news, went out for dinner last night, it was amazing. But then, got in, fell asleep on the sofa at 8:30 for an hour (this is unheard of with me), went to bed at 9:30 and awoke at midnight burning up. Decided to go to the loo, and spent half an hour in there retching and deep breathing trying not to be sick. Was sick eventually, only a little and went back to bed and felt fine, just had a heavy feeling in my stomach. Am shattered this morning though. Temps still high as well, which is a good thing. But I just don't feel right. Hope I'm not getting that sickness bug thing. Work is so busy, and with this interview, I can't afford to be sick!

Hope everyone is ok. Thank God it's Friday

Ooh Moo how exciting!
You're going to nail that interview. I can feel it in my waters! (nice to say that and not mean wee).

Count glad to hear you're coping, take things a day at a time and you'll get there.

Well.
All the clothes I own (except jumpers and little shruggy things) are hung up all together for the first time in three fucking years. And do you know what? I could have sworn I had more exciting clothes than that... I guess I got the rose tinted glasses on thinking about all the awesome things I would have to wear, but... meh. Still, lots of easily accessible wraparound and stretchy dresses for when I eventually start expanding.
Today I dismantled the desk, bunged it upstairs, baked some bread, swapped the living room furniture round, emptied the landing cupboard and re-appropriated it for a tool/ airing cupboard. Things are looking more like they're supposed to inside, but I still can't quite bring myself to attack the monstrosity that is the overgrown lawn and epic weeding task ahead of me.

I have put away the tools with a little sadness (but only a little, my back's killing me!) and got out a jigsaw to do as a reward for getting all that humping and dumping out of the way.

In other news, it's been bloody gorgeous here, lovely weather. Hope it continues over the weekend and maybe I'll get out in the garden- or get DH to help me as he's off on Sunday and Monday!

Hope all you ladies are having lovely weather, productive days and happy thoughts!

Oops Moo forgot to say, we waited til we'd been to Norwich so I could tell my parents first, then told the in laws once we got back, but MiL is off with her BF in Rio so we were going to wait til she got back, but then SiL opened her mouth and... it'll be halfway round John Lewis by now. Couldn't get hold of MiL last night, just want to avoid her not finding out through us!

Hello everyone!

I'm so sorry for my loooong absence, have been doing a bit of lurking and trying to muster the energy to post. Got back from hols straight into chaos of kitchen / bathroom dust and sorting out the flat and then it's been all I can do to keep my eyes open and get to work for the last few weeks. Have been literally going to bed as soon as I get home.

Rusulka - I am even more in awe of you doing so much DIY and amazingly useful stuff while pg! I can barely lift myself from the sofa. Even sitting up to type this I am feeling sick.

Count - I couldn't believe it when I saw your post. That is beyond cruel and unfair. I really, really hope you're OK and that you're getting the support you need in RL to heal.

Moo - that all sounds quite promising. Like Lil and chips the month I got pg was the month I had NO SYMPTOMS apart from feeling a bit tired. My boobs didn't start hurting until about 10 days after AF was due. Usually I get sore nipples after I OV, but not this time. Keeping everything crossed for you!

Lil - so glad all went well at the scan and you can tell people now! (Although somewhat exciting news to have two uteruses... not quite sure what you're supposed to do with that information. Does it make any difference to anything?).

Berries - good idea about the job. Making changes can help you feel that you're moving on and your life isn't on hold for anything. Really hope you get everything you want!

As for me, I'm now just over 7 weeks and still can't quite believe it. And am still terrified that it's all going to disappear at any minute. Had an early scan about 10 days ago (in fact, I read Count's awful post just as I walked into the scan which is another reason I didn't post for a while). Luckily everything was fine, they even found a heartbeat (just the one!) so it looks like so far, so good. However, I was nearly a week less far along than I thought I was. Have my next scan at 11+5 on 14 June and then we can tell everyone. I can't wait.

I also can't wait to stop feeling / being sick. I know this is everything I ever wanted and, honestly, I'm not complaining but it does get a bit dull feeling constantly nauseous. Oh and (TMI alert) apparently I'm one of a small(ish) minority of women who also get the runs during MS. Quite badly. Had a few emergency situations at work, where I literally had to hang up on my client mid-sentence to sprint to the loo. Apparently it's all a good sign, but I feel like I've been eating rubbish and haven't even been near the gym for a good 3 weeks (which is very unlike me). I was about to go this morning but feeling quite sick now so have had to go and sit down instead... For the same reason I've not made any progress with unpacking my new kitchen (or anything for that matter). Fingers crossed I get some new energy in a few weeks.

Hello to everyone I've missed, I'll try not to be away so long!! I am still desperate to know how you're all doing and hoping that those of you who aren't pg yet, get there this month and those of us who are have nice, healthy, normal, sticky beans!

I'm not coping today it's a month today that I found out I was pregnant!
I went back to the page I posted my news on just remembering how I felt and how you guys was so excited about the influx of BFPs! I guess with so many there is always going to be a few that don't make it to the end but thinking why me, again!!!!!! Another date to avoid in december!
Feeling rubbish and a failure that I'm not coping as well
As I should!!!!!
I'm ranting sorry!!!!!

count - I feel like I am stalking you on lots of our ectopic threads! BUT there is no "how well should i cope?" answer. everyone is different and deals with things differently. It's very raw, and very new and you need to just take one day at a time and it will get better, I promise. Don't feel bad if it takes a long time though, you have been through an incredibly traumatic, painful and dangerous experience. It is harder than m/c (in my opinion) as not only do you lose your baby but you lose some hope for the future but you have to remember the stats I told you, and you have to BELIEVE. It will happen for you. It will. Rest, be kind to yourself and go with whatever your emotions and body are telling you. You will get through this. Anyway - I have said lots of this on the other threads but we can chat more there xxx

flour - glad you got a scan and everything looks good. I've read that once you've seen a heartbeat even that early the odds of M/c drop significantly so you should be absolutely fine.

Still feeling positive here. It's the only way for me to get through it all. The next pregnancy I have will work out. And hey - maybe now the crappy tube is gone it won't take as long as I am expecting!

Count rant away . Sadly it will take time to heal and although I'm sure it doesn't feel like it now, things will get better. Allow yourself to grieve but it is not your fault, just a terrible , horrible thing that you had no control over. There is no right or wrong way to deal with these things and you will have good days and bad and that is normal. I hope you have lots of rl support around you and we are always here to hold your hand for a good rant. Take care and give yourself lots of time xxx

Covered I'm not really sure what to do with that info either (although not to google it is prob the best advice!) She didn't seem to think it was causing a problem so will wait and see. Hope the ms eases soon, it is rubbish. I remember foolishly thinking I would like some early on just to reassure me I really was pg, oh how stupid I was!!! Don't beat yourself up about not doing anything, apparently you have loads of energy in the second tri :)

Rusulka my weeds are looking worse by the second but just can't bring myself to tackle them! Glad the diy is pretty much sorted, time to chill a bit and enjoy free time while you can!

Moo the job sounds great, so excited for you. Any news on the ttc front? Hope you are feeling better.

Berries wow at leaving your job too! So many changes on here. I have to admit since I found out I'd be going on mat leave and wouldn't get another class after this one I feel so relieved! Didn't realise how trapped I felt until then. Hope you find something perfect for you that you actually enjoy, a really exciting time.

Chips how are you getting on? Hope you are managing a few smoothies.

No real news here, going for our 12 week scan tomorrow and have been sorting / throwing out lots of things to make space in the house.

Hope everyone else is ok xx

good luck at the scan lil

Oh Count so sorry to hear that you are feeling low. Please don't feel like a failure; you are being amazingly strong considering what you have been through and you need to be kind to yourself. It is understandable that you are going to be feeling low at such a time. I hope that every day you begin to get a little stronger and before you know it we will be once more sending out congratulations.

Sending you lots of love and hugs xxxx

Flour hope you had a good holiday and sorry that the house is still in chaos. Think of the end goal; it will all be sorted soon :) and poor you, as if m/s wasn't bad enough, but to have the runs as well. Not pleasant for you at all. Hope that it passes soon.

Rusulka hope you managed to speak to MiL and let her know before she finds out from a shop assistant in John Lewis :)

I had a lovely weekend; on Saturday we went to the Maritime Museum in Liverpool to look at the Titanic exhibition. It was really good and we listened to some live bands in the town centre, which was a nice treat as well. Sunday, I managed to finally get out into the garden and sort all my plants out. Have rectified the seed issue and have replanted those that I could, have planted my chitted potatoes and found a nice long planter that I have put some carrots and parsnips into. I even managed a trip to the garden centre and stocked up on supplies and some flowers. It's starting to look nice now. I have propogated some of my seeds on the window cill in the kitchen, but had to cheat with my cucumber (i have bought a small plant) because it's too late to start planting (plus I have ran out of seeds as well).

In TTC news, according to FF I am 10dpo today (although I could be 5), feel nothing really. Did have a few wobbles over the weekend (nausea and a headaches and general unwell feeling) but nothing that I could really associate with pregnancy. Just going to have to wait and see. Have bought some more tests online (25 ICs, 2 digis and 2 FRERs), more to have them in for when I get the Clomid next month. But will test when AF should be due, which is on Saturday.

Hope everyone had good weekends and enjoyed the lovely weather :)

cross posts with Lil and Berries there.

Lil good for you at throwing things out and good luck with the scan :)

Berries glad to see you are feeling more positive. I have everything crossed that you get that BFP very very soon :) :)

i think nwe're the only ones left moo, so hopefully me, you and count will end up on a pregnancy thread together very soon :)

Count don't worry about not coping. It's two months today since I found out my baby had no heartbeat. I'm still crying properly 4 or 5 times a week and not a day goes by when I don't think about it many times.

You're still in the very early stages of grieving, you must be living with it every minute. It will get easier for you, but it's going to take a lot of time. And you are going to mentally count up how many weeks you 'should' be and all the other 'should's for a long time yet. Just don't feel like you should be coping on any sort of level at all, you've lost a baby and an important part of your body so you need to give yourself time. Come back and rant/weep away as often as you need to, but don't give up hope for the future because there is hope.

Berries don't forget me! I'm still TTC! I know I've not been on here much lately but I've been finding things quite difficult. New job/leaving old job sounds great :)

Moo sounds like you had a nice time on the weekend, hope you are 10 dpo not 5dpo and you get some good news soon!

Flour I hope the MS eases off for you soon, I was absolutely miserable with it, it really made life very unpleasant so I know how you feel.

As for me, I'm just hoping that something good happens this year cos it's been rubbish so far. I'm still getting over a weird flu like virus I had that gave me very high temps and buggered up temping for a while, coupled with achey wrists, swollen fingers, a rash and dizziness. It's gone away now to be replaced with a reactivated old foot injury so I'm limping about :(

Still, ovulation is imminent hopefully (going by pre-miscarriage stats anyway, dunno if it'll be different now) so fingers crossed I get some good luck soon!

Hi disco - sorry for forgetting you m'love! how could i?? I hope you get some good news soon. Have your cycles returned to normal ok?

You've been finding things difficult in terms of your loss? or other stuff? Remember we're here if you need us. Was thinking of starting another thread for us lot who are still TTC so the pg ladies don't have to hear our tales of woe! Might be a bit easier to 'talk' openly there....

Hi Berries. I ovulated inbetween the m/c and my first period, now i'm in the first true cycle after the m/c. That first cycle saw me ovulate 7 days late and have my first period 7 days late, hopefully with this cycle I'm going to go back to normal. Fingers crossed! I'm on CD20, my average is CD22 so it should be sometime soon.

I'm feeling bad about the m/c still. I just keep remembering random things all the time, from when we first found out, to when it actually happened and all the milestones along the way. The thoughts just pop into my head unbidden. I'm not doing as well as I thought I would at this stage anyway. I'm not sure if I'm depressed or grieving or what. It's not helped as my poor DP has a bit of compassion fatigue I think. He's just run out of comforting things to say now. i'm not sure if he thinks I'm dwelling on things too much, I'm not sure of that to be honest myself.

How are you feeling now? Your ectopic was at pretty much the same time as my miscarriage I think, how're things two months on? It must be hard being around pregnant friends.