Fantastic 40+ thread - part 6

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Over here everyone

More and a whoppee woweeeeee for Wendy too. Hope you will keep us posted.

Have a great day everyone. FF xx

missbone I'm finding it slightly stressful to read these arguments. I'm sure we are all very happy for you, I know I am and i hope you continue to have a healthy uneventful pregnancy. Its just i'm recovering from a MMC and on here for support in TTC and keeping pregnant to full term, when i read online conflict on here it makes me nervous and leads to stress, something I really don't need at all.

Someone asked about ovary massage, i'll post a link later today or tomorrow.

Congratulations Latestarter - how wonderful for you. Remind us of your story?!

Hopefulgum - how are you doing? I so empathise with your comment about remaining positive; it's such an uphill battle sometimes isn't it? Some days I'm amazed that I feel really excited and happy at the thought of a baby coming along. Other days I think, it's all over. Do you get this yo-yo effect?

Italian - keep strong; we're wishing you the very, very best.

Missbone - keep well in your pg; I hope you have a smooth ride with it.

Fireflies - nearly at week 25 now?!

Knickyknocks - you still there?

Wendy - how brilliant; wishing you the very best that this is a sticky bean.

It's true that it can be frustrating trying to chivvy along a DP who is basically an every 3-4 days kinda feller (that's just his pace). We went for some counselling early on in our relationship to work through some differences, esp' around sex drive (I can be a bit of a rabbit), and his difficult previous relationship (and mine, plural) - and it def made us closer. We were pg with DS so it was a strange time. Our sex life is actually better than when we quickly conceived in 2009. We are both healthier too, with good BMIs. It just requires gallons of patience; I now totally sympathise with DP's 'performance' issues - sometimes I feel the same and definitely in the 2WW I don't feel like much sex even though I know regular sex is healthier for DP and his low motility swimmers. I'm looking forward to the time when we don't have to analyse it any more. Having sex every day is unlikely to make us pg - we have done it for a few months of TTC and I can tell that the 'quality' suffers IYSWIM! Sorry if TMI, but perhaps relevant for others here?

Well, I'm only about 5dpo here but my boobles are killing me.

Hello everyone, been a bit distracted the last week with family visiting and doing lots of Mia-related activities - some nice, some not so nice. Expecting an emotional dip this week now the house is all quiet again, so trying to keep busy with friend and our Great Garden Refurb project (and also look for a job)

Italian - thanks for asking about me. I am thinking of you, and hoping the hormonal fluctuations calm down. I can't tell you how many positive thoughts I am sending your way.

Further thinking on the whole assisted fertility front, as I spoke with my parents and they are very supportive. They just want us to be parents again, not that we are not still Mia's parents. My grandmother died last year, and it looks as though we will be receiving some money from her estate, and it seems fitting that we put this towards fertility treatment, one family member hopefully helping us to bring a new one into the world. So about to put myself on the list at AGRC (eek!!), but a little worried as to how it will take over our lives. But am 9 dpo, working to the Egg and Sperm Plan and temping at the moment. No sore boobies like you, beangrower yet, which has been a sign for me in the past.

knicky I embraced 40 in a big way. I had a huge 40th formal birthday party, and announced that my then-DP and I were getting married then and there. I was already pregnant with Mia so with a wedding on top of that, it was an amazing, happy day. We had managed to keep it secret from everyone, including the whole family, and so it was the most wonderful way to do things. In fact, my 40th year was my best ever, because I had Mia 5 months later.

I love all the personal stories about being 40+ and pregnant here (big congratulations to wendy, latestarter, beattie, fireflies, missbone, beangrower, lolfactor, and anyone else I have missed - wow, there is a lovely big bunch at the moment!!) , but I have to laugh at my friend, a very determined lady, who is obviously doing a lot of positive thinking on my behalf - she keeps on sending me emails about 40+ friends who have had babies or who are pg, and lots of inspirational messages. It is almost as if she is saying "well, I WANT this for Miasmummy, therefore, it will happen". She means well...

Blackcats - my story is that I had a MC in June 2009, go pg in Dec 2009 and had Mia in Sept 10 when I was 40, but she unexpectedly died last October... dealing with that, and currently ttc, but thinking about assisted fertility options too.

diege wow what a busy life you must have! Cheering on from the sidelines is definitely welcome!
bean sore boobs 5 dpo? Ooh, will cross all my fingers and toes (but sorry not the legs this particular week ). Agree it will be far better for all our sex lives when we don't have to analyse and plan our DTD times. I'm looking forward to a more relaxing future when I don't need to worry about it and can be thoroughly spontaneous no matter when it falls within month.
wendy and latestarter, congratulations to you both. Amazing fantastic news. Pregnancy is a scary rollercoaster of a ride, but I hope that you both have a smooth time of it.
missbone I hope you too have a smooth ride in pregnancy.
miaalexandrasmummy lovely to hear how you're getting on. What an amazing 40th birthday you had! I hope that you don't need to go down any assisted route and that it falls into place naturally, but it sounds as if the your grandmother would have thoroughly approved how any inheritance will be used.
blackcats good to hear your cycle is getting back to normal. At least you'll know where you are then. Thanks for the info though re Evening primrose and royal jelly. Definitely keen to know more that ovary massage! Sounds very intriguing!
fireflies, sounds like you had a very productive weekend with the charity shop clearout. Well done with the pilates - I've heard that although you don't think it's working at the time, the aches you get afterwards prooves it is working!
Hi to everyone else angelgeorgie, beattie, lolfactor, italian and gum. Apologies to anyone I've forgotton to namecheck.

I'm doing fine, had my reflexology this morning which was wonderful and definitely to be recommended. Came out feeling like I was floating on air! She does acupuncture too and am keen to give it a go.

DH has not been able to get annual leave for what could be my most fertile time this week. Shiftworking really does get in the way of TTC. I have the romantic prospect of putting DD to bed on Friday night, running upstairs with hubby, DTD and him heading off to work 30 mins later. Lovely

My full compliment of blood tests are back from the GP. Had a letter yesterday to ask me to make an appointment, but whatever it is, isn't urgent. Seeing the GP on Friday to find out. Crossing fingers it's not bad news. Having my progesterone tested next week.

No idea if ladies still want to do the stats, but here mine are....
Fireflies - 42, blocked tube, x 2 failed IVF cycles, currently 24+2 with first child
knickyknocks - 39 (but only just still), TTC#2, 1 M/C, 1 chem preg, DD 2.5 years old, cycle 13 (ish)

Hi Knicky

Don't let me get excited about sore boobs. I seem to get these most months for most of the 2ww though they seem extra sensitive this month. Does anyone else get this, and is it a good sign - lots of progesterone - or not?

Good luck with results on Friday; hope it's all fairly normal.

Adding to the stats:

Fireflies - 42, blocked tube, x 2 failed IVF cycles, currently 24+2 with first child
knickyknocks - 39 (but only just still), TTC#2, 1 M/C, 1 chem preg, DD 2.5 years old, cycle 13 (ish)
beangrower - 40 (early Nov last year). TTC#2, DS 2yo exactly, no BFP since I stopped b-f about 14 months ago, DP has lazy swimmers - cycle v regular and tests didn't reveal anything much except for DP issue (and I'm not 20 any more obviously).

Knicky glad you enjoyed accunpuncture I used to. Xxx
Italian xxxx Ant ' s jobs??? Mmm... How complicated!!! Long story short; now working for our local council as HR officer for 4 weeks hoping, in the new financial year they ll have a permanent post for him to apply for. Until last week was working at another company in Leeds & they ve also got a permanent post coming up so he's applying for that also!!! Council job very handy 10 mins from home , 5 mins from my work , 10 mins from the nursery but found the other job more interesting!!!
My job( work situation) causing me headaches also!!! I applied for a post at Birmingham clinic ( family live in West Mids , parents have offered 3 days childcare) got an interview then when I spoke to the manager about the hours they were crap so I withdrew my application, rung the manager & explained why etc.. That was that. Resigned myself to staying at my clinic for now as they know my history , hours v good 8-4 ( though for last 10 years I did all evening clinics etc) but now a band 7 manager post on
30 hours ( I m currently full time on 37:5 hours) as come up at a local clinic near my mums!!! So feel I ve no choice to apply & take it from there!!! I love my job but there loads of politics & a couple of very lazy staff who seem to get away with everything, including our lead clinician who wind me( everyone) up so could be time for a change!!!!! Bet you regret asking???? Hope you re ok? You sound in a better place.xxx
Gum xxx I totally agree with all you ve posted. Xxx
FF glad you re ok? God it's flying by !! Probably nor for you.
Mia xxx hi xxx
Love to all;
Hi LOL hope you re well?
Missbone nasty post. I may sound bitter at times but I also realise I ve also a lot to be grateful for. I wish a million times over I had never lost Georgie & was/ is bitter but I can t change what's happened . However, I find it hard to believe with any loss , especially a child in such tragic circumstances you wouldn t be left with an ion of bitterness amongst the other feelings. Maybe if you find you re so wound up & emotional on something as trival ( or meant to be light hearted) as a forum you should avoid it or at least giving patronising " advice"
There really are bigger things to deal with in life .. Something loosing Georgie taught me.

Missbone having just re-read your posts I find them highly insulting that , paraphrasing I have are coming from a higher moral ground because I ve suffered a stillbirth. How dare you? You don t have a clue what I (my DH, friends & family) have been through. I don t profess to know everything about fertilty , ttc ... Etc all I can talk about are my experiences yet you feel it's ok to post that I come from a higher moral ground. No ,you said that not me ... Do you think it was out of choice what happened to my Georgie? And if I could change the whole situation I wouldn t.. You have posted one of the nasiest uninformative posts I ve ever .
Hopefully , you ll never experience what u have & then you won t sound like you re coming from a " higher moral ground" eh??[

Please, please let's all be really gentle and kind to each other - this is so hard on everyone. Sending you all really good vibes for TTC and the early stages of pregnancy and particular thoughts for anyone who has such a devastating experience as AngelGeorgie.

Angelgeorgie sending you a big hug.

I hope we can all just support and care about each other. That's what we are on here for (I think). There is lots of fertility advice etc out there but what we can offer each other is support.

Hoping for peaceful calm vibes and sticky beans and chocolate! There's always room for chocolate!

I agree with Italian, the purpose of this thread is for support. I for one got enough home truths from other sources.

adding my stats:

Fireflies - 42, blocked tube, x 2 failed IVF cycles, currently 24+2 with first child
knickyknocks - 39 (but only just still), TTC#2, 1 M/C, 1 chem preg, DD 2.5 years old, cycle 13 (ish)
beangrower - 40 (early Nov last year). TTC#2, DS 2yo exactly, no BFP since I stopped b-f about 14 months ago, DP has lazy swimmers - cycle v regular and tests didn't reveal anything much except for DP issue (and I'm not 20 any more obviously).
Beattiebow - 41 - 29 weeks pg with #6. 2 miscarriages, several chemical pregnancies. Preg after 16 months trying. Used CBFM and Progesterone. (tried temping and clomid also).

Hi Beattie Congrats! Do you think CBFM really helped? X

Yes it did I think, but also in conjunction with temping for me. That showed me when I actually ovulated and how that related to the ovulation symbol on the CBFM. For me there was always a delay between the Ovulation symbol and the temp rise which indicated that I had an extra day to that indicated on the CBFM. I remember on here someone said that they had always got pg from dtd actually on the day of ovulation, and not to write that day off. I took that to heart. I think others had got pg that day too or following the SMEP the day following ovulation.

BUT, the month I got pg I wasn't particularly trying, but it was the signs of ovulation as per TCOYF that were more indicative of ovulation (cm and sex drive).

I also think that I did have low progesterone. I had alot of the signs of it, and the tests were a bit borderline. In the end my dr said it couldn't harm to take it. So I did. (although I did for a few months before too).

and so the biggest proviso of all. I dtd at the right time for months, and for whatever reason I got pg that month and none of the others. I don't know what to read from that apart from the fact that luck played a big part.

sorry that was a bit waffly!

Lovely post Italian (as per usual!) I'm on this thread to seek support but equally to support others through stressful and tough times XX special thoughts will always be with those who've had particularly devastating experiences XX

Peace and chocolate to all XX

Sorry to ask - where there any other symptoms to low progesterone Beattie apart from your unfortunate MCs? I worry about how much my boobs. hurt in most of 2WW...

Thanks Beangrower & Italian xxxx

Angel xxx

Angel I cannot begin to tell you how sorry I am. I have no idea what has come over me in the last 72 hrs but I have lost the plot and lost my way. It's like a hostile, defensive and intolerant alien has take me over. In my desperation to defend my position on here I have only caused you (and Hopeful and others) anger and, much, much worse for you, pain. I am absolutely devastated my words have stooped to insults and hurt, despite this being the very last thing I imagined I could be capable of. When I read my increasingly desperate posts (desperate in that I so wanted to not be misunderstood and for people to 'get' my drift) I can see the horrible absence of compassion, tolerance or humility. I can totally understand, Angel, you comparing me to a troll. I am disgusted and ashamed that I could allow my dogmatic opinions to sully the friendhips I have made on here in recent months. I don't expect my apology to soothe you or assuage your anger any time soon, Angelgeorgie (and you too, Hopeful) but if I can at least be sure that you will accepy my deepest apology I may be able to sleep tonight. I've said it in the past ,Angel, that your tragic experiences have both confounded and inspired me; I'm not convinced every woman could come through the other side as you have. I am mortified that my posts have shown a complete lack of respect for you, your family and Georgie. Please forgive me.

Popped in to see how my mates, Italian, Angel, Gum, Lol, BB, FF, Miasmum, Diege etc are doing and am sorry to see all this bad feeling and rudeness. This is not how we behave in the snug.

Most of the new ladies are here for support and they have definitely come to the right place for that. :)

I have been chatting to some people on here for over 2 years - we built up supportive friendships by displaying mutual respect.

Missbone - I can't help but think you're looking for trouble. If you can't play nice - please get out of the sandpit! :(

hello ladies, thought I would pop on and say hi to everyone and a big hug for all. It?s that extra day we only get every 4 years! Has anyone asked anyone to marry them!

hi Hippy long time no hear. BB you too, thinking of you.

blackcat thinking of you my dear. Please can I suggest something and do not want to upset anyone on here who has miscarried. My missed mc was a long time ago now; in fact it was over 6 years ago. I am sure I mentioned this before but I did write a 'name' and a little bit of writing in the hospital's book of remembrance (miscarriage book). It was kept on the gynie ward and I went back about two or three times over the following year or so to take a look at it. For me it was very helpful to have a 'place'. Other people I have known have done stuff like planting a tree or planting a plant (could be a public place if you think you will move house soon). I have only just seen this website www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/support/ I have no idea if you will find it helpful but there are some lovely ideas on here including the Forget-me-not meadow www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/support/marking-your-loss/forget-me-not-meadow/ If it is not your thing and makes you feel sad - so sorry - and please ignore this bit.

angelgeorgie you are a super lovely lady and I send a huge hug to you. I hope dear Ant gets a fab job - sorry, every time I write that name I think of the cartoon Antz with the Woody Allen voice! Just trying to lighten the mood with a bit of cartoon magic!

Hugs to all of us trying, babydust to all of us ladies in waiting!

missbone I hope the pregnancy hormones calm down.

Fireflies hugs to you and wishing all the best to all you other pregnant ladies too.

I had a car accident tonight, luckily it was NOT my fault and I was not going very fast. Someone crashed into the side of me. But we were on a roundabout so it was all quite slow. I ended up being brought home in that big vehicle that carries the car on the back of a flat bed; I had to drive onto it, very ineptly!

Fireflies - 42, blocked tube, x 2 failed IVF cycles, currently 24+2 with first child
knickyknocks - 39 (but only just still), TTC#2, 1 M/C, 1 chem preg, DD 2.5 years old, cycle 13 (ish)
beangrower - 40 (early Nov last year). TTC#2, DS 2yo exactly, no BFP since I stopped b-f about 14 months ago, DP has lazy swimmers - cycle v regular and tests didn't reveal anything much except for DP issue (and I'm not 20 any more obviously).
Beattiebow - 41 - 29 weeks pg with #6. 2 miscarriages, several chemical pregnancies. Preg after 16 months trying. Used CBFM and Progesterone. (tried temping and clomid also).
Italiangreyhound 47, DD aged 7 (from IUI), MMC 2006, IUI/IVF/Donor IVF all failed, awaiting FET donor cycle March 2012

Oh sorry that looks like my name is darker, normally we highlight our names by **. Should I highlight them all?