The rat smacketeers are brooking no argument!! All for one BFP and one BFP for all!

[Imps7]

Smacket on, ladies...

Bean I have been thinking about life with one child more and more and there are many positives. Party sounds wonderful and I'm glad your DS enjoyed himself!

Party sounds fun bean, I spent yesterday afternoon making a castle out of cardboard with SKs which was fun.

Yep can safely say AF is here

An pissed off with myself for getting carried away, but OH has SA tomorrow and I can book hycosy appt so onwards and upwards.

Have self medicated with hot bath, wine and gu ganache, followed by an evening of zombies and vampires on the box, enjoy the rest of your weekend ladies, see y'all tomoz!

Sorry to hear AF has arrived Scarlett I was sooo sure you were upduffed!

I hope everyone had a nice weekend? DH and I went out for a Nepalese meal Saturday, very spur of the minute very unlike us and it was lovely. Then out again with family last night where I just about got away with the not drinking thing without looking totally suspect my sister has totally twigged :)

Oh scarlett so sorry about AF :( At least you can get the ball rolling with testing etc

Welcome back generic it sounds like a lovely holiday and with you and beans zen attittude to #2 you are sure to be updiffed in an ironical way

pop how many weeks are you now?

I'm 7 weeks today, far thanks for asking :)

I am currently freaking out because I have family staying next month (will be 10 weeks) and, due to a multitude of boozy lunches my sister is organising, I'm not going to be able to keep it secret until I've had my scan and I'm terrified I'll have a mc or mmc. And I can't deal with them looking expectantly at me every time I see them for another year of ttc, you know? :(

Purple has suggested we get an early scan privately, which I'm seriously considering. I will have to sweet talk DH because he doesn't like spending money but I think he would go for it if I pouted a bit

Yay for your peak cupcakes ! I bet Mr Cupcakes is relieved, no?

Generic DH always tries the ?SFF boosts the immune system donchaknow? line when I am fluey it sometimes works worth a shot? :o

Hi whims ! Those pancakes sound yummo, you are training for proper American brekkies? Nom nom nom :o

The party sounds fab bean though DS's friend sounds awful I wouldn't have been nearly as tolerant as DS!

pop very exciting indeed, I think an early scan sounds like a great idea and solves the family problem as well? Once you see a heartbeat on a early scan your change of MC drops dramatically (i think its something like 1%)

Morning all.
Sorry to hear about AF Scarlett.

Pop Lent is just around the corner. Can you 'give up' drinking for Lent? It's a good time for an easy excuse. To be fair though, I've always told nearest and dearest early on. I figured I would tell them if I had a mc, so why not tell them you're pg? Obv a personal choice, but I think there's a bit too much not talking about mcs.

On a cheerier note, a friend of mine who was pretty anxious after a couple of mcs told her gp she'd been spotting so she could have an early reassurance scan. Do you have a sympathetic ear at your health centre?

I've been up all night with a toddler sitting on my head screaming for his daddy (snoring, asleep next to us) and am really not in the frame of mind required for rewriting my journal paper. Although perhaps the tiredness is an early symptom...

I completely agree whims and it's not that I wouldn't want to tell them about a mc - they would be very supportive in fact - more that, being the youngest and the last to have kids, there's been a lot of pressure on us to have kids for many years now (a good 5-6 I'd say - literally every time I see MIL it's, "so, when are you giving me a GC?" :( ). I put enough pressure on myself without feeling everyone else is tapping their feet waiting as well, you know? I don't know, maybe I'm just too private

I will speak to DH when he gets home and see what the voice of reason he thinks.

Generic my OH's favourite phrase is 'I've got a cure for that' so I like to throw that back at him now and again

I am so annoyed, my only positive spin on AF was that I can go ahead and book hycosy and now the fricking scanman is in South Africa on holiday all week . If stupid AF had come when it was supposed to last week then I could've spoken to him then to book it next week but but they won't know til Monday if he can do me on the Tuesday or not, if not then it's another month and I've only got the stupid Bupa cover til May. I've asked for next Tursday off work anyway but it's just one thing after another now, I thought going private would make it easier grrrrrrrr.

[did I mention AF made me mardy lol]

Rant over!

Oh Scarlet, that's a toughy.

Can you find something lovely to do with a day off in case you don't have a scan?

Oh no scarlett ! That's not good. I'm sure you'll get in before the bupa covers runs out, though?

Oh Scarlett so sorry re AF and boo hiss boo re scan man being on hols. Doesn't he know we have rats to smack? Hopefully he can fit you in next week, but if not I like Whim's suggestion of finding something else to do with that day.

Pop congrats on 7 weeks! Do you have any morning sickness or other symptoms? Hope you're getting off lightly. I agree with giving up drinking for Lent as a good excuse. You could always say you are TTC if you are pressed but don't want to admit the pregnancy yet. Hope your DH agrees to an early scan though - so reassuring to see that little heartbeat.

Far how's the 2ww going?

Whim that doesn't sound like fun.

Still not sure if I've ov'd yet - suppose it may have been delayed due to mega-cold. Will keep up the SWI anyway.

Good for you on the SWI!!!

Generic I am ok the 2ww, not mentalling which is good, 8dpo and have some dull cramps that feel like pre AF cramps. I get this every month and then the spotting starts but am hoping this month will be different, who knows. I will test at 10dpo, not that I want to but I have to to know whether to start heparin/progesterone etc etc. Just dreading getting AF on Friday which would have been my due date :(

Morning all!

Bean sounds like a good party - nice to indulge in party food from time to time, but I always find it nicer to go back to healthy eating! Re: squabbling siblings - my niece and nephew wind each other up constantly - it drives me insane even if I'm only spending an afternoon with them!

Scarlett sorry about AF. Where on earth was she and what on earth was she playing at? And, more to the point, how dare that your scanman be in South Africa?? Why will it be another month to wait if you can't be seen on Tuesday (sorry if you've already explained this and I've missed it)? There must be other BUPA scan people locally - have you tried arranging an appt elsewhere?

Pop, I've had the inevitable questions with my cutting down on drinking - I've just said that I'm having a few months' break from alcohol for health reasons - no one has said anything more about it (well, not to my face - who knows what rumours are circulating behind my back!) 7 weeks gone eh? Here's to a lovely healthy 33 more!

Shag Week is starting chez Imps, although we may have an issue - OH fell off his bike at the weekend and badly bruised his knee. We attempted SFF at the weekend but it was a no go as he was in too much pain. Hopefully he will be back in shape for our scheduled shags otherwise I'm going to have to go on top and I bloody hate doing that

6 weeks left at my job - woo hoo - am still hopeful of a bit of garden leave but because they're all stupid morons I don't think they'll put me on it. Pah. Oh well, I've coped with it for this long - another 6 weeks won't kill me

Onwards and upwards Imps - you can survive anything with your positive outlook. Anyway - you'll be pregnant and in a happy haze...

Far - really hoping that you get that BFP this month. Fx.

Oh dear Scarlett - it will all come good though, I tell you.

7 weeks Pops - that's so lovely. We went for private scan because DP was going away for work for a while and would have missed NHS scan... It helped him twig that we were deffo diffed. It was over £100. Spenny? You must put M/MCs out of your mind. You are young. Keep + and healthy and your bean will be with you in good time.

Generic - perhaps we should keep each other encouraged re' our 1DC life as much as possible. I know DP really likes having one DC and feels perturbed at the thought of two... Somehow I can't quite give up this hideous fight for a second though. Mind you, I'm not far off moving on. I'm deffo a lot less prone to tears etc. Is that how you feel? Good luck with SWI anyway!

Whims - feeling the pain. DS is always after Daddy's attention even when I try to help out and let Daddy stay asleep. Where are you in your cycle btw?

DS was totally unperturbed by bossy older girls. That should stand him in good stead. He seemed to love having Happy birthday sung and had no problems being the centre of everyone's attention. So gorgeous.

Quick question - my CBFM still on low at cd9. I know that I usually ov at cd12 based on LH. Should estradiol be surging soonish to get me on high (before LH peak)? I was thinking you get at least one or two highs before a peak? Thanks, ladies.

BEAN is it your first month using it? Its very possible it will go straight to peak or miss the peak entirely the first time you use it. Then it gets to know you and I know get about 3 days earning before OV. I would get SWI just in case!

I have been very lucky generic with no morning sickness to speak of! I'm quite nauseas on and off and I've got killer indigestion and sore boobs, but it's better than being sick every five minutes :)

Oh blimey far that's shit timing :( Are you planning on maybe arranging something for the day to get your mind off it?

:o Imps I hate it too but I am a lazy bugger
Only 6 weeks to go, that's great! You can make it, you're half way there :)

I'm not sure about the CBFM bean maybe far will know ? but since it's the estradiol hormone that triggers the LH surge, I'd think you couldn't have one without the other iykwim?

I love the lent excuse, but I normally drink like a feesh and it will be soooo obvious Since my mum's all the way over from Canada it would be really nice to tell her face to face, so I'm really erring towards the early scan if I can talk DH in to it. I will keep you posted - thanks so much for patiently listening to me mental :)

Ah, xpost Far :)

whims doing something else for the day is a good idea, I feel like I should be saving holiday though in case I need it for maternity later in the year. Although now we aren't likely to be looking at ML in 2012 in honesty so maybe to hell with it.

I should get the hycost in before May popcorn I guess its just doing ti this week gave us enough time to get in any other tests if I don?t get BFP in the 2 cycles after test, well that?s what the consultant said anyhoo. Oh and if I were you I?d deffo invent a concern for an early scan, or pay for it [I don?t think its very expensive?] Do you really think you?ll e able to keep it in with all that family stuff going on? I wouldn?t!

Generic I decided just to go with the every other day SWI method the next cycle I can try properly [I think this one is out if I have the internal scan?].

far here?s to a BFP on [or before] Friday to turn that day round into a nice day to remember instead.

imps it will be another month cos they only do the procedure in days 1 ? 10 of your cycle and that?s day 10 . PS/ can your OH not stand up and SWI with his poorly knee? A bit of a doggy style twist iykwim? Sorry if too graphic sex talk for lunchtime I used to buy more magazine just for position of the fortnight lol

I know it will work out in the end & I?m usually fairly positive about life in general but I think have been struck with AF-melancholy and feel like the world is against me [woe is me and all that]. Plus to top it off now I?ve been struck with the dreaded lurgy tummy bug that is sweeping the country and everything I'm eating today is going straight through me. OMG sorry for being such a moaner!

I have rung the consultant?s secretary and left a message for him to call me so I can ask if there is anyone else that I can go to ? I know there isn't at that particular hospital but I am really flexible on where I go, we?ll see. If it can?t be this month maybe it would be nice to try to switch off from TTC for a few weeks?

imps I'll give you a full run down of symptoms if you like

Tee hee, thanks Scarlett! What a great service MN provides

Sorry you're feeling low. Entirely allowed and understandable. I wish there was a magic wand to make all the sad feelings melt away, but in the absence of that all I can suggest is a rousing chorus of

What do we want?
POSITIVE PEESTICKS!
When do we want them?
NOW!

Afternoon all, I've had a busy weekend away from the computer. Did gardening (now have sore muscles) and tidying/DIY. Finally got around to putting some more insulation in our roof space and draft excluders round the hatch. Our bedroom is the coldest place in the house currently, and I hate it. Shag week starts tonight, though I'm not sure which method to do. Abstain for a few days pre-ov, or just SWI every couple of days. I read a bit of the pg book (thanks Pop), and it says it's a myth that regular SWI is bad for sperm. So maybe it's safer to just SWI every day other day.
I feel a bit of extra pressure to get a BFP this month after my HSG, but worry that it could be a dud month with the egg on the wrong side. I'm tired of waiting to be pg now, I've been a good and patient little girl, and now I want my present. Sigh.

Popcorn your weekend sounds lovely, definitely more relaxing than mine. I think an early scan sounds like a good idea, though how much do they cost? I think personally I'd tell my family about the pg, even at this stage. It might stop all the pressure and questions, and though if something goes wrong it will be heartbreaking for you all, at least you'll have each other for support.

Whim how can your toddler be screaming and daddy still be sleeping? I'm sorry you had such a bad night though, hope the coffee helps.

Scarlett sorry you're having trouble getting your scan sorted. Maybe they can make an exception on the day 1-10 rule if you really, really promise you haven't had any sex at all this cycle? I hope your tummy bug doesn't last too long, drink lots of fluids and take care of yourself.

Imps your poor DH's knee, I hope he's up to some SWI soon, maybe time to get creative with positions??