The rat smacketeers are brooking no argument!! All for one BFP and one BFP for all!

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Smacket on, ladies...

Scarlett ? thats the bit they give you while you're on maternity leave; I think I'd lose the bit I'd already accrued but hadn't taken, iyswim? :(

:o :o sparkle & Imps!

Gosh Olives - it's crap you've tested positive, but good that there is a treatment? The vivid dreams don't sound too bad (better than ?sudden death? ). I think the risks of it are something you just have to ignore for the sake of you mental health, tbh - the fact he's one of the country's few specialist and has never seen it happen is really positive.

:o Mr Far! DH and I were like that too ? I don't think we dtd til I was 6 weeks gone, but it's been fine, thankfully! :o
My symptoms have abated, this week (which is causing me to mental big time!) But I've only really been getting nausea when I don't eat, evening indigestion, and I'm up a bra size already I got a lot of headaches between 5-7 weeks, too, but they've stopped now.
A massive, humongous, gargantuan "good luck" for your scan tomorrow ? I'm sure it'll be fine. Like you say, if you don't see a heartbeat it doesn't really mean anything, as long as it's measuring ok which I'm sure you will be :)

Thanks Scarlet for the link, its helped sort out a few oddities at my workplace, and made me realise they aren't doing it just because they don't believe i'm really pg

Hope all is well Far I'm sure it will be!

Hi All, a very quick post from me. Just wanted to say I was sorry to hear your results Olives but it is great that you now a course of action. I wouldn't worry too much about the effects in animals, most of the studies done in animals don't translate very well to humans anyway, especisally if the studies were done in mice

Glad to hear you are well pop and Far

Are you feeling better Cup

Keeping it short brookers. I have made it into work, but have now got to the point with my antibiotics where I feel sonstantly pukey, and moving makes me heave. I know I need to go home and go to bed, but I am so worried what everyone here thinks of me. I might just finish my experiment and go. If I take a few days to get better, I know I will feel good by next week. Otherwise this could go on forever

I hope you're on your way home to bed now maybe....?

olives Totally understandable to have mixed feelings about those test results. It will hopefully bring some peace of mind when you get your bfp, that this will be the one that brings you your baby x

bartlet I have often heard people on here say one of the hardest times after losing a premature baby, is when their due date nears. I am sure that by August, when I was due with the pg I lost in Jan, I will find it hard to not imagine what should have been. But I am brooking hard that you will be pregnant again by the time your dd was due x

Well I had another high on the CBFM again, and managed to swi last night. Fingers tightly crossed for this month.

Oh and btw, I have had a funny taste in my mouth for about 10 days now. I cannot be pregnant, but I have heard that it can be caused by zinc deficiency. I'm sure I've heard someone (Bean?) saying they were taking zince. Is it for ttc purposes? Im wondering if I need to add it to my daily cocktail of supplements!

Maybe - go home love. You need to get fully well before tackling work and getting stressed again - which may be why you're poorly. Hope the antibiotics take full effect and don't make you sick. Sounds awful.

Olives - I am actually relieved for you. I think this is the answer to your awful 3 years and hopefully you will be pg asap. Brooking!

Far - lovely message to us all. Yes, I think the halfway house is a better idea. I have vowed not to buy any more supplements, just finish the ones I have. It's DP who needs to get sorted is my gut instinct - yes, we better re'test in a month or so (but I don't want him going back on booze if the analysis has improved.) I have every confidence your scan will be good. Keep brooking lady. Love your DH for being so brilliant. You've both been through such a lot together but it sounds like it's made you stronger.

Sparkle - naughty DH. I hope that you have ov'd. I'm a bit concerned that I hardly got any highs - just one - and went straight to peak on cd11. I wonder if that's my ancient body working hard to ovulate? So maybe it's better not to jump to peak too quickly?

Pop- I think it's fairly normal for symptoms to drop off as you approach second trimester. But I didn't have any with DS so not sure. I worked up until 2 days before my due date (acc' to scans). I was therefore v glad that DS came along 2 weeks late (or +8 if you go by last AF). The main thing is to do what's right for you. The time off I had was mainly spent metalling because DS was breech, but acupuncture fixed.

Well, it's official DS can get into the garden via the dog flap! Uh oh.

I am very proud of myself - I had a proper swim this morning and am going to make it a regular thing after I have dropped DS at childminders, Weds & Thurs. I'm hoping to jiggle my ovaries into action although tbh it really does feel like I'm dependant on DP's wrigglers to improve more than anything.

Big hugs to everyone and apologies if I've missed folk - I love you just as much.

Little - Zinc is good (partic' for men) but if you're taking a pre-conception supplement it will probably have zinc included - just check the RDA etc.

Good luck with SWI this month. How many highs have you had? You must be close to peak? I can't remember if this is your first month with the CBFM. It's my second but to be honest it hasn't told me anything new, although I am changing shagtics to try to have SWI on the first peak - I missed this one last month as went with first (and only) high and second peak, which wasn't a winner.... boo. Fx v tightly for you too.

Bwah ha ha at the dog (child?) flap bean, that's one cunning and determined little beanlet :o
And thanks for the reassurance, google seems to suggest that symptoms fading at 10 weeks is relatively normal (phew). I just don't know how to not mental

Go home maybe! If they think less of you for being ill, they're t*ats anyway (and what does it matter? You're leaving soon, aren't you? :) ). You need to get yourself well again so you're in top ttc condition :)

Fingers crossed for you, too, this month little :)

Have had it confirmed that the friend with the whooping cough child (who is very, very ill atm by the sounds of it :( ) has taken offense at my "snub", sigh. She will understand in a few weeks

MW tomorrow, have just irrationally stressed at DH at the state of the house (it's fine!) and then had a shower during which DH (who was not sharing the shower, I hasten to add ) had a good ogle look and says he reckons I'm starting to show a teensy bit now :o

Ah - that's lovely Pops. You're kernel is expanding.

It's funny about DS isn't it? He is certainly quite cunning; I shall have my work cut out. Lord knows why I want another.

Poor kiddo with wh c. But you are doing the right thing. All will be forgiven. xxx

imps and sparkle at your DHs. Mine likes to flick my nose if I fall asleep watching tv

maybe hope you've had the afternoon off, tucked up in bed

bean sounds like you've got your work cut out with your escapologist son

far wishing you loads of luck for the scan tomorrow

pop I still think it was a good idea to avoid the child with whooping cough, hopefully your friend will understand soon. I had it as a child, and from what I remember, it was quite yucky coughing until I vomited. Glad to hear that kernel is making his/her presence visible Though I'm not sure what's wrong with sharing a shower

I got a letter today with a pot for DP's sample, he has to do it before we have our appointment with the fertility specialist, helpfully they haven't actually said when it will be just that it will be within 3 months. Haven't actually seen all this myself as I'm not home, but DP opened it whilst we chatted on the phone. And in even better news, he has finally realised that he needs to cut back on his bad habits and be a bit more healthy He had actually told me this during the day,it wasn't a reaction to the sperm sample pot

Me either, beedle, - I only wish ours was big enough for two!

It's great DH is taking some positive action! It's funny how it seems to take them 12 months longer to realise than it does it?

Thanks for the kind words ladies - I luff you guys!

Wishing you all the luck in the world for your scan tomorrow far!

And good luck with the midwife Pops, it's lovely that you're getting a little bump

Maybe I do hope you finished your experiment earlier and went straight home! You need to rest up my lovely - that's an order Thanks for the info re animal to human studies, that has made me feel much better about that particular risk!

at DS and dogflap bean!

Aargh, why do people put up their scan photos on Facebook????? I have never and would never announce my pregnancy on Facebook, even before we lost DD. Two people (the offender and then her DH who also then put up the picture) have been defriended. Aha! The ultimate punishment!

Maybe, I hope you are now in bed, tucked up and being looked after by MrMaybe. Get well soon.

Olives, just needed to agree with what Maybe told her. Rodent studies are helpful but not the be all and end all of what happens in humans. My other thought about it is that even if the baby has cleft lip and/or palate, it is generally easy to diagnose before delivery and so treatment (which is so very, very successful in babies) can happen as soon as possible. I've worked in a developing country where children can't get it treated and it is so very different from the UK. Of course, however, we are brooking no argument and all will be well.

Far, hope tomorrow goes well. I hope you do get to see a heartbeat, but I'll also be hoping that you won't be too discouraged if you don't.

Popcorn, have fun with the midwife tomorrow.

Scan photos do seem insensitive. But thinking back to my easy pg/birth with DS, I wasn't saying anything on FB until he was born but I did put up a message and photos straight after our homebirth. People just don't think about others in these situations. Hope you're ok Bartlet - must feel v upsetting.

Good luck tomorrow Pop and Far...

Meant to say to Imps - it must be impossible for your DP to get a wibble out of your muscular, supergymtastic buttocks, whether you're asleep or awake!

I shall be making a carrot cake for DP's birthday (on his request; I'm more of a coffee and walnut girl myself - though walnut gate may have changed my attitude). My elderly neighbour has sorted me out with a microwave recipe (and 'tin') which goes against the bean-grain but I haven't the heart to disappoint her so will give it a whirl.

Hi all, been v busy and my work laptop died yesterday (RIP) so I have only just caught up.

Far I'm glad you had a wonderful, relaxing holiday and I am brooking my a*se off for tomorrow that you will see a nice, strong heartbeat.

Bartlet I'm sorry you are finding it so tough. I can relate to the timing and 'I should have a baby by now' or 'my due date would have been soon' thoughts (I get these too). Sorry to hear your cycles are still messed up as well. After my mc last year (I know this isn't the same as what you have been through and I hope it's not insensitive to say this) it took several months to get back to normal. I think about 7 or 8 weeks to get a period and then when it arrived it hung around for 5 weeks. During that time I had loads of tests and scans and eventually things went back to normal and I got pg again (sadly another mc). You will get there soon, I'm sure.

Bean yum to carrot cake! I made honey, oat and raisin muffins at the weekend - they seemed kind of healthy what with the oats and all.

Olives I agree with the other rat smackers - very sad thet you have been diagnosed with high NK cells, but it's promising that there is a treatment and I hope this means you will get your dragon baby that you want so much. You have hjad a longer and tougher journey than most and I truly hope it will work out for you.

Maybe I'm glad you took our advice last week, but you absolutely must take it easy this week too if you're still not better!

Pop hooray that you are showing. Please don't worry about decline in symptoms - this happened to me with DD and it is nothing to worry about. Something to do with the placenta taking over at 9 or 10 weeks.

Beedle glad your DH is on board now! It's nice when you feel more like a team doing this TTC!

Little my cycle buddy! I take zinc too, but mainly to help me fight off the never-ending cold (which is gone at last!). I think it's good for men too and DH is taking it.

Sorry if I've missed anyone. I'm hoping for an Imps style 'security shag' tonight, but pretty sure I ov'd a few days ago, maybe even a week ago.

Thanks Bartlet, I know the risks are tiny for cleft lip/palate and I know that treatment is fantastic, I think my main fear is that if I ever get to hold a much longed for DC2 then I wouldn't be able to have those snuggly new born breastfeeds I'm assuming feeding would be impossible?? So sorry that you're finding things hard at the moment, insensitive FB posts are crap! I can't even begin to imagine how difficult it must be to lose a baby so far into a pregnancy, it's a cliche but I really believe that time is the greatest healer and I hope with all my heart that everything settles down physically soon so that you can concentrate on falling pregnant again. I know a new pregnancy will never replace your DD but it will be a fantastic positive to concentrate on.

Generic Your lovely words just made me fill up! Hmm, tearful at 3dpo, I must be preggo already Loving your work with the security shag!

bartlet, just echoing what generic said, I hope you didn't think I was being insensitive by comparing my mc with what you went through in December. It is definitely not the same, but my only point of comparison. x

Gah! I don't think I've posted yet today, have I?? Or have I? If not, I don't have a clue what I've been doing all day

Bartlet big squeezy, squashy hugs for you and a high 5 for hitting that there "defriend" button. There's a lot of scan-photo-as-profile-picture-itis around at the moment and it's a bit tedious at the best of times.

Bean - you're absolutely right - I have buns of steel fo' shizzle. I personally can't see the attraction in trying to wibble these rock hard glutes - there's no movement there at all ! How did the microwaved carrot cake turn out?? And have you tended to your allotment today?

Green, how are you feeling? I imagine it's difficult to feel happy when you know that your NK cells are high, but it is progress. You mention about not being able to breastfeed - is that just if the baby is born with a cleft palate or because of the NK cells?

Excellent work on the security shag Generic - not that you need it as that rat has already been kapowed to the ends of the earth.

Pops, your friend will undoubtedly understand what you were unable to let her stay when you tell her your good news. Personally I think she should understand that you might not want a very poorly child in your house at all, preggo or not, but that's probably me just being a cold heartless cowbag :)

Maybe I jolly well hope that you went home, young lady. How dare you not look after yourself like that?? If you're not rested up all day tomorrow, I shall go mad. But not really be able to do anything about it.

And you Cupcakes - how are you doing today? Are you feeling any better?

Am home alone tonight and tomorrow night - PPPPAAAAAAAAARRTTTTTTYYYYYYYY!! Or, alternatively, just OBEM on the telly (last Wednesday's was my favourite episode yet). Bless lovely OH - he was packing his washbag earlier and I saw a little scrunched up bit of clingfilm on the side next to it - I asked him what it was and it is two days' supply of zinc and selenium tablets that he'd wrapped up to take with him!!! Baby or no baby, I am bloody lucky to have him.

Right, must get the rabbits in and then head to bed. Will wear my Brooking Bonnet overnight on for a good scan and appt for Far and Pops tomorrow.

Evening all. I've been very good and not popped in all day. Although that's not to say I got a lot of work done.

After some curious pant snot earlier, I POAS (and my pants and tights and the floor. Will blame it on the children) and, for the first time ever, got the 2 blue lines. It's CD20 I tell you. or maybe 19, but certainly looking a bit late. Perhaps this is where we've been going wrong.

So, one more cup of (herbal) tea for the road, and off to bed for a spot of swi.

Good luck tomorrow far. And have you got a scan too pop?

Extra brooking for bartlet and for maybe for still being poorly. You do realise that compromised immunity is a sign of pg don't you?

Another day down imps. Only 15 to go now isn't it?

Big fat gypsy wedding cakes for everyone else.

Really will get my work done tomorrow, and won't spend the day looking at knitting patterns. Honest.

Whims I miscalculated yesterday and it was 18 days to go this morning...17 now...

Excellent work on both the pant snot and the blue lines! Rat smacketing ahoy!

whims have you been SWI too early then? I feel a BFP is in the offing.

Waves at Imps of the rock-bot. X

Hope whims and mrwhims are tucked up nicely after a productive evening...

Well done to MrImps on taking his vitamins!

Have I missed a post about Popcorn and a infectious child? I do sometimes refer to my DS as "my little culture medium", given all the bugs he seems to bring home. (Thankfully, he is generally cheerful with them all.)

Little/Generic, no offence taken!

Generic, keep up with those oat muffins. Aren't oats supposed to be good for breastfeeding mothers? It really won't be long before we all need them! I'm not sure I like the sound of bean's microwave carrot cake.

As for my defriending, I have a very strict FB policy. Would I cross the road to speak to you? Those two were both borderline anyway, so it is not like getting rid of one of my best friends. I have regular culls at the best of times anyway. I find it hard enough keeping in touch with the people I do like!

Anyway, must again try to get to sleep. DH sleeping contentedly beside me but I feel wide awake. Goodnight.

Good morning

Hope you managed to get to sleep bartlet

Its a gorgeous sunny day here, though I'm guessing its quite cold too. I'm feeling quite positive at the moment even though i don't think we're going to manage any rat smacking this month. I don't get home till late tonight, and he has to be up stupidly early tomorrow. Fingers crossed CD11/12 isn't too late for me.

Anyway off to my 2 minute walk to work, there are some advantages of being away from home

Oh and I meant to say, whims you clearly need a ramekin

Oh bartlett :( Some people are so thoughtless. At the end of the day, who needs people like that in their lives? De-friend away!
It was a few weeks ago ? a friend (SIL actually) wanted to come and stay, but her DD had just been given antibiotics for whooping cough! As DH has already had it very badly, I politely (honest!) said we'd have to wait til she was better, and apparently it's not gone down very well. DH says to ignore it, she'll understand soon - though she seems to think it's all about her rather than that I may be pg, despite the fact she's one of the few people we told that we're ttc

That sounds lovely bean - I love carrot cake but find all that grating tedious? How did it turn out? I made banana cake (bread?) yesterday, which is lovely.

Thanks Generic, that's a relief to hear :)

:o Imps
Awwww that's super thoughtful of your DH, it's great he's on board with it. DH is still taking his conception vitamins because he hates waste ?just incase?, he said.

No scan yet whims - I'm hoping the MW will arrange it? Yay for 2 lines boo for them being OPK lines :o

Hi beedle is it still snowy where you are?