TTC after a miscarriage - Wishing everyone shed loads of love, luck and babydust xxxx

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Ahhhhh, thats better!

A nice, shiney new thread! All fast and efficient!

Heres hoping this thread brings more BFPs, keep everything crossed it does (except legs...don't be crossing your legs ladies!!)

oh and here it is

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I agree hellkat - I am all for BF, discreetly, in public or not, but when one woman wops out her boobs over the top of her dress, and two children attach themselves to her at once, it made me feel a little uncomfortable. One mom was breastfeeding her almost 8 yr old, it look horrible!!!

As far as I'm concerned, the only reason any woman would continue bf for that length of time is purely selfish reasons. Just so that she can feel a) useful & b) get to have a "baby" back. Can you imagine the ribbing those kids would get at school!

thats just what i thought, poor things, but they want to do it, they kept asking her, and the 4 yr odl just went and unzipped her top himself. The one with the 4yr old also adopted a chinese baby/ 18month old, and wanted to BF her too, poor thing didn't even knwo what a breast was.

You know you love me ladies? You know you do....well, do you love my opinions too??

Ladies with 19months old doing the protesting - great!! good for her, need more younger mums like her, especially in the north (no disrespect to anyone,but figures do show less B/Fing mums in north thats not my opinion)

Ladies with 2 1/4 twins - bless her, it is so hard to wean your baby. You know in your head it is right and they can't keep feeding but your heart wants them to crry on coz you want to provide for them, mother them, and B/Fing is a comfort as well as food. I really felt for her and cried when I saw her up all night trying to convince babies they didn't want it. Mind you, where was hubby!! He should have been in the bedroom with them - all the time they could see mummy, they would just want her milk.

Lady with 4 year old - hmmmm, I personally wouldn't do it, but that is because our society frowns on it. I wouldn't do it in fear of causing major upset, but, saying that a 4 year old does still get vital nourishment from breast milk. The chinese bay situation, well, if she had been a baby, a new baby, then yes, I am all for B/Fing an adopted baby and have a lot of paper work and articles on the matter. It is good for adopted babies. HOWEVER, I don't think it was the right thing to do for a 18 month old. Perhaps expressing her milk for her would have been better.

Lady with 8 year old - The optimum age for weaning, taking into account nutrition, and weaning ages of children in every culture, be it western, or tribal, is in fact 7 years old. I know you are all but it is true. So what that woman was doing wasn't all that weird. But modern western society has made it weird. Mind you saying that she was a total freak and in my opinion was just lazy and didn't want to wean her children.

I B/F DS3 til he was exactly 2. He chose to stop, he did it a week before his birthday. I was devestated. although I knew it was best for him and me. B/Fing your baby is a wonderful, bonding and calming experience. It is something only you can do and it is special between mum nd baby. Try not to see extended B/Fing as freakish, because then you are surcumbing to "society" but see it is a natural process.

Now I 'm off to hide in my tee-pee, to put on my kaftan and play my guitar!

morning ladies, how are you all??

that bf programme I watched in disbelief at some of them I thought the lady with twins of 2 was doing the right thing in weening them off and it ended in success, her other 2 children from prev marriage were feeling excluded from her life at least they can all share things now. As for the 8 year old. that was disgusting (sorry but imo it was) I thought the child was saying she wanted it for the wrong reasons I sensed it was more like I can and my sister can't it made her sister who stopped at 5 jealous and excluded and I think mother should have stopped and recognised this. And the lady who wanted to bf the chinese girl, poor chinese girl she really didn't want to do it and imo the lady was trying too hard for her to do it.
Don't get me wrong I would hopefully like to bf myself one day but having seen that I am not so sure how I feel about it.

what we all up to today?

diddle hows your cold?

hk how you feeling?

and hi to everyone missed....

I'll still bf but personally, I like stopping at 6 mths. But that's just me. I may change and decide to go for a full year, who knows. No way in hell though would I be doing it when they're that old lol.
I'm ok here. Got really bad crampy backache this morning (still bleeding too). Out of 24 days on, I've had 5 days off . No wonder I'm wiped out. How are you?

I feel I can have this convo with you lot coz we are friends and we respect each other opinions. I wouldn't dare post on the B/Fing board - Oh god no!!!

But a question for you... How old do you think a woman should B/Feed her baby for? What do you consider "normal" and extended?

Oh by the way, morning all!! I've just woken up in a pushy mood!! I think it s the student in me wanting a discussion!! hehee!! But I do feel very passionate baout B/Fing and as some of you know, I am a La Leche cousellor so I do have an interest xxx

(I know you love me really!!)

think I have a cold brewing woke up with sore throat and blocked nose passed 2 days but I will survive waiting for the new bosses to take over at work then can get into some good work

I actually thought that they all seemed lovely. I thought I was going to be more disturbed by the 8 year old than I was, in the end I quite enjoyed having my eyes opened and my mind widened slightly. It made me quite teary, actually, and made me wish I was still breastfeeding my dd (even though it was a real ordeal at the time). But then I am desperately broody these days and anything children-related makes me teary.
I came away thinking 'oh so what' about extended breastfeeding whereas before I think I felt a bit 'ewww'.

I wasn't sure why the Spanish lady didn't express into a bottle - but I suppose the reason for that is that it is a complete and utter faf if you already have a child bouncing around the place.

Morning hunny!
Imho I think once they're fully weaned and onto "grown up" food (not pureed crap out of the jars etc) then that's the time to halt it (no later a year or so). But that's just me. I just thinking it's pretty cringeworthy seeing a toddler/child walk over, climb up and take a boob out. Urrgghhhh. Far too old, yuck! (sat here shuddering at it). My mate did that with her 2 yr old in front of me and I had to leave the room. If they're old enough to be pulling titties out then they're old enough for a beaker.
Oohhhhh what a controversy this programme started! .

morning ch, well bf... having yet to have a child so no real exp of bf,I would have thought normal to be 6-12mths but recently seen information and world health say 2 years..I personally would have said anything over 2 I would not be comfortable with. In my situation though I would have to bf for 3 -4 mths max cos of returning to work although can't you express the night before the bottles for the next day? I heard something like this but don't know how true it is? That way they are still getting the same goodness?

Nikki- I think there's so bugs doing the rounds. Hope you don't catch the big flu one! (touch wood that passed us by here)

yes me too but I am sure I it will pass..(touch my head...ooops wood)

Yep Nikki you can. It's a godsend too as a) someone else can feed them and b) you've got milk there and then. Lol I had the fridge & freezer filled at the hosp scbu when ds2 was born to pop into his feeding tube.

Morning ladies
I completley forgot that prog was on last night even got dp agreeing to it being on humph!!! But seen as though we are all being honest with each other i will tell you my opinion......
I desperat;ey wanted to b/f both ds's but due to lack of support in the hosp and the fact they both had breathing probs when they were born, and the amount of milk they took had to be monitored i couldnt do it. I did try with my youngest when we got home but he wouldnt have any of it I wouldnt have breastfed for anything over six months (only my opinion dont think there is anything wrong with carrying on for a year) Anything over a year i couldnt do. Think this stems from watching my friend b/f her ds when he was 18 months old and saying "ooh little buggar is biting my nipples" that really worried me then and i thought if i ever b/f as soon as they have teeth thats it! But if i ever get to have another baby i will b/f and am now more confident to ask m/w in hosp for help on latching etc.
Hope i havent offended anyone with my views

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One more word from me on the subject, coz I could argue about this for hours (and I have stats and fugures so I would win!! Heheeee!! ) The WHO do say that a child should be fed until its second birthday at least to obtain all the nutrients and goodness it needs to grow and develop. Tests have been carried out on long term B/Fing and it does show that children will continue to get "something" out of breast milk until the age of 7-ish. Cultures that are not as "developed" as our own do feed their children til they are older, and we would consider that weird. But it is necessary to protect them from disease and illness. And there is alot of truth in that - DS3 is never, or hardly ever, ill. And if he is ill he is better much quicker than my DS1 who wasn't B/fed.

Anyway, I do not wear a kaftan and I am not some earth mother type, but I wholey and 100% agree with B/fing until mother and aby are in a mutual decision to stop, whether that be 3 months 12months or 5 years. If you are happy and the child is happy, then what right has society to dictate how we raise our own children. Its up to the individual!

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Pepper- I agree totally. I could'nt feed ds1 (both him & I did'nt take to it) but fed ds2 for a few months (until I could'nt keep up with his demands).Ds1 was solely on formula milk and in his 13 (nearly 14 yrs) is incredibly fit & healthy.
It's down to personal choice if a woman bf (she should'nt be made to feel she has to) and ultimately how long to bf for. I've always been one of the believers, baby hits 12 mths, onto cows milk. Both mine have thrived on it.
(in fact we get through so bloody much, trying persuade dp to buy me a cow )

I'm not trying to pass blame but i think my upbringing has a lot to do with the fact im uncomfortable with someone breastfeeding a toddler. I was brought up in a very (i hate this word) prudish home. The toilet door was always locked, i never heard any of my family break wind, and i remember being asked to leave the room when my aunty was b/f her daughter i was about 14 at the time. I still have little traits like i would never dream of weeing in front of my dp and would die of shame if i farted in front of him although if he chooses to do any of this it doesnt phase me. I guess what im trying to say is that just because i wouldnt dream of b/f my 19 month old it wouldnt offend me if while out a mother sitting at the next table was b/f her baby. (am i making sense??????)

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oh...just been reminded about the woman with the 8 year old...the dh joins in too!! he on one boob and child on the other!! wtf is all that about.

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mygirl its ok they don't show that he said he joins in and she said yes there is nothing wrong with hubby on one and child on the other..hmmm

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