BESH Cassidy and the Nekkid-dance Kid - walk like John Wayne into our Wild West saloon.

[Northey]

TTC on the frontier of polite society . Shoot outs compulsory.

New joiners will be welcomed after completing the Beshtionnaire and showing us their blazing saddle.

I became cynical around ttc 15 months I think! Some of them really wind me up!
euro I think seeing a real life bestie who totally understands is a brilliant plan. Hope you enjoy it. Sorry for not replying sooner, I've been travelling home.
Nice to see you outlaw! Glad to hear you feel stronger in yourself but boo to things being so tough with TOM :(
Well I'm into the knickers checking zone, feel like Droid may be starting but always false alarms. Urinary symptoms have eased somewhat today. Must remember to drink plenty tonight though.
Northey my m&ms were here when I got home, cheers!
Whose writing the new Fred then?

Ah, that's better. Decided To change back.
to the newbies, I am phee but have switched back to my old name

I've got bloody hiccups again!

Whatever's going on, it isn't normal!

Have you tried the upside-down water trick cavey? Remind me when you're not expecting Droid visitation?
Well it's nice to be sort of home, well back to the rented house. Been to our proper house....there's no plaster on the walls in the living room and kitchen! Actually there's no wall between the kitchen and living room! I'm rather chuffed actually, we're rearranging the area to rejig the kitchen and create a proper dining area :)
I switched names back because otherwise I feel too defined by the fire.faith is more about who I am and what I want to achieve.

Sounds like good progress on the house Faithy

Droid is due 19th March, the one thing that has been consistent about my last few cycles is that my luteal phase is always 15 days.
Hiccups have gone now, but yes the upside down water trick is the only thing that works for me

Good luck cavey. The only symptom I can muster is not sleeping. Not even a sore boob to keep the hopes up.

Faithy- it all becomes clear- I know your name from cyber stalking the BESH recognise your new/old name.

Who was it who mentioned that thread in conception? Eeeek. Doesn't sound quite right though... Or am I just embittered that someone might be able to ov on day 5? Pah.

Euro hope RL is offering appropriate shoulder pats and gin.

Oh, and faithy, ignore this if you want, but can I ask- do you worry about ovulation induction because of your mum? I know they don't know the risks, but i am a little scared I might cause myself to get cancer. Menkul. I haven't told my mum about my treatment or even TTC because I know she'll hate the idea of me putting myself at risk, no matter how small.

Tell me I'm cancer menkulling.

You're cancer menkulling my lovely. From my very limited knowledge and research, there's limited evidence to link the two.
I went menkul about a year ago, found a 'lump' in my abdomen and ran off to my luffly GP who essentially hair stroked me, told me it was in fact just a fatty lump and would be fine but I was right to get it checked out. I had sobbed on MSB the night before that I didn't want to die yet!
Who knows why my Mum got cancer...she took the pill on and off for some time, she also had hrt for a long time but she'd have been locked.up for harming my Dad if she hadn't! She knew there were risks with both and made the decisions that were right for her at the time. So I too take my life as it comes and deal with each stage too. I'm not in the position of being offered ovulation induction right now, since our fertility issues lie with the male side and should be resolving I think we'll need to try for some time in the position we are before they offer us any extra treatments. But I'd definitely consider it if they offered it...
Is that ok? Are you feeling ok?

Thanks Faithy. Think it's from the registrar telling me I'd only get 6 rounds of clomid because of my mum, then the consultant giving me 6 more, and the possibilty of ivf etc etc.

And a shit conversation with a diffed friend tonight, who I think I need to accept is just oblivious to others feelings. I'll bore you all tomorrow with that one.

Yes. Deffo menkulling. Thanks.

Realistically they have to warn you of the risks of course, and the consultant can make decisions that the reg couldn't based on a balance of benefit vs risk.
Some people are just rude and thoughtless, End of. I know it just be exciting to be diffed and want to talk about it, but I've concluded if people know the circumstances I'm in and are insensitive, I have to consider how much contact I have with them. It's a self-preservation thing.
I'm still menkulling, feeling some cramps thinking oh Droid is coming while also wanting to Google symptoms like bounding pulse + bfp...

must be d'oh.

Seriously. This is my first day off in 12 and last for 12. And I'm wide awake from 4. After horrific dreams. Im blaming the clomid (the fact it's not done this before is by-the-by)

Bounding pulse eh faithy? I'm sure I have no idea what that means that's obv a positive sign..

So diffed friend. Ghj thinks she's self centred and rude. They don't get on. But she was my best friend who got me through a uni course I almost quit several times. She was my bridesmaid (I wasn't hers, but I'm rising above that), and she knows about TTC craziness. She has never asked about how things are going, and last night was complaining that, at 16 weeks, she looks fat. I said how lots of people are preggers atm and I try to not be shown scan photos because I find it difficult. So conv is steered to her scan, up coming 20 scan and how she can't wait to stop work.

Consider this a cathartic moan. No comments nec! I think I simply need to keep our friendship fluffy and superficial.

Soooo... Who's starting the pirate thread? Yo ho ho, and a bottle of gin

Wow, sinkster, that's a lot of days on vs not a lot of days off. Is that normal for you? Hope you get to make most of it despite inauspicious start. And superficial or no, I hear your moan.

Fingers crossed for good news out there. Hiccups and boundingness both excellent symptoms. Keep it up! No symptoms here, and still no sodding jizzfacts from UCH a whole week later. What are they even doing with it?!

Anyway, we're off our cycle-thames adventure in a bit, so will see you tomo eve/Monday morning. Wishing nice weekend things to all. Save me a hammock on the good ship BESH...

Oh heck, we've nearly filled the thread. Who's on new fred duty? They'll need to be on it pretty sharpish. Don't forget a copy of the BESHtionnaire in the OP/first few posts!

Right, off for a ballroom lesson now, let's see of that induces hiccups too

Pirates was faithy's idea, so does she do it. Is that how it works? Or are there turns?

I have very fractionally sensitive breasts. This is not a sign that I need to wash some bras. No. It is an invitation to the good ship menkul.

Hiccups, bounding pulses, tender boobs and insomnia? I'm predicting a BESH baby boom come December...

jewels yup. Not outside the norm- comes round every 5-6 weeks. Boo.

So, I've got my pieces of eight and my cutlass, Paul's ready with his little parrot peg leg. Let's jump this suffrin' whiskey soaked joint. but I'd really like someone else to do it. I'm too new and shy

Can whoever does it make the fred title non-sweary again please so I can access it from work? (Because MN URLs show the full fred title.) Fanks.

I'm feeling a bit better today ladies. I didn't see my friend last night as I was crying too much when I got home and couldn't face leaving the house, but I think she will pop round today. I am on CD4 and over the worst of the PMT hormone cyclone, so that should help. I am still unsure as to whether I want to go ahead with IVF but feeling generally less of a basket case this morning.

sinking I wonder about the risks too. Clomid has been used since the 60s I think, but all of the IVF drugs have been in use for a much shorter time (the first IVF babies were the result of "natural" IVF, which I would be much more comfortable with). No one really knows the long term side effects of taking them. As Faith says, you have to do what is right for you at a particular stage in life. I worry also about the immune stuff. Maybe my body has an overactive immune system for a reason. My mum's breast cancer was discovered when she was 47, only 11 years older than I am now. Maybe my body is supposed to have a strong immune system to get ready for that onslaught (because she got it so young and her mum has had it too, it is likely to be the hereditary kind). Maybe I am increasing my risk by taking drugs to suppress my overactive immune system? Who knows. But I think the menkulling about this stuff is understandable.

Can you get tested for hereditary causes euro? BRCA gene? My mum got genetic testing as she was only 30 and her sister had breast cancer, and luckily negative, so, in theory, my risk is no higher than anyone else. But as you can see, it doesn't stop the menkulling.

Glad you're feeling a bit better.

I will do it with the BESHtionnaire.non-sweary title noted.
Am I taking the wall colour question out?

Argh new Fred be Mumsnet..com/Talk/conception/1425087-Yo-ho-ho-and-a-bottle-of-rum-Find-your-sea-legs-and-sail-on-the-seven-seas-in-the-BESH-Pearl
I be taking out the colour question and adding an essay question at the end.

sinking I decided not to have the tests because I would never do the extreme preventative treatment of a mastectomy and I already do all the other preventative stuff of diet and exercise (most of the time), so I didn't see the point. I just make sure KFZK keeps a close on them and if I find a lump I skip the GP and go straight to my mum's very conservative oncologist who checks absolutely everything out.

I know what you mean euro. I don't think I want to know. I'm just working on the diet and exercise to get healthy.
Well goodbye to the cowboy Fred :(