BESH Cassidy and the Nekkid-dance Kid - walk like John Wayne into our Wild West saloon.

[Northey]

TTC on the frontier of polite society . Shoot outs compulsory.

New joiners will be welcomed after completing the Beshtionnaire and showing us their blazing saddle.

Wonderful Northey! They'll be waiting for me when I get home then! :)
euro sorry to hear about the bfn, bah. I knew your treatment was involved but I hadn't realised just how much....
It never rains but pours in our house...the house is finally being repaired and coming along so I.feel much happier about that, but this morning we found out my Dad's prostate cancer has come back he had an op less than a year ago so we're gearing up for him to have radiotherapy. Sometimes it feels like we just lurch from one crisis to the next :( Fortunately the prognosis is good..they've been closely monitoring him so they've picked up from his bloods it's back. The RT should blast it away.
Well we are on holiday and it's lush
well when in Wales!! Our hotel room has a balcony with a sea view looking out across the bay :) In answer to your much earlier question, yes, we're hoping to climb Snowdon tomorrow. Brought our walking boots with that in mind!
Now bugs are you convinced in a I feel like I did last time I got my bfp or in an 'again' I keep menkulling I'm diffed way...just so we know....when would Droidus be due?

Aw Fee, I'm so sorry to hear about your dad. My dad has prostate cancer too, though he's still in the monitoring stages. He was diagnosed in 2006 and thankfully it has not progressed in the last 6 years.

As you're up in that part of the world, if you happen to stop off in the village of Betws-y-Coed do call in to the bakery. My Dad's cousin Gareth runs it

fee, thank God they picked up so early that the cancer was returning. Fingers crossed that the RT blasts it quickly and easily into instant oblivion, never to be heard of again. You really are having a year of it! Good luck for Snowdon tomorrow! AMNH and I went to Snowdonia for our first ever holiday together, when we were deciding whether we were having a fun and friendly fling or falling in luuuuurve. We impressed each other so with our gung ho outdoorsiness that we went for the falling in luuuurve option. We never actually made it up Snowdon though

Any boob or nipple tenderness, bugs? Or queasiness?

No, really? Bollocks, I don want to have to start finding them and being mean to them. I'm having a hard enough time restraining myself with the people starting "1st month ttc, 5 days before my period - could negative test be wrong" threads...

Fucking droid. Sorry bugs :(

Sorry about droid Bugs [drop kicks metal git]

I noticed a sudden influx of baby dusters too. Someone actually used the words "baby dancing" on one thread I just managed to avoid starting a bloody massacre!
Oh god, and there was one thread where some twit was talking about POAS 3 days after ovulation because she was so excited. WTF is that about????

bugs that sucks :( (droid and your friend's prognosis). They first picked up Dad's PSA prostate blood test was high 10 years ago. Took til last year to actually locate it, it was very deep. But since the op they've been monitoring his bloods every three months so I'm confident they've caught it again early.
Re the metal f*er, goodness only knows why our bodies play up like they do...I guess it's just that your hormones still haven't settled :( mind twisting I know.
cavey was that the girl who had fertility treatment? And someone pointed out she should be waiting 14 days and she'd waited three?!
Overall I'm loathe to post much in conception....some of them are so naive or so early on, it makes me somewhere between sad and angry,..,BD and baby dusters must be regulated to t'other place. Y'know, the one with the Huns!

Ha x-posts bugs!

Bugs have you considered charting to see if you can see a pattern?
Another bloody pregnancy announcement from one of my uni friends. I'm supposed to be seeing her at the end of the month. Don't want to now. I am so bitter. I really need to get past that...I have no idea how to :(

Ah, yes charting requires consistency. I haven't charted since August. If I don't get a win this cycle jury still out, boobs are a bit ouchy I think I will again. Opks sound good bugs. Then you'll have some ideas of timing.
I did manage to say congratulations to my friend on fb but did it on her wall rather than the announcement post so I don't get 2000 updates about it
Oh and you know the young girl at work who was diffed? She's now single...I can only assume the outcome of her dilemma is going to be/has been resolved. I'll never understand how life works - why some people get diffed in circumstances when there's no way they can take care of a baybee, yet there's so many of us how could care for a baybee but aren't getting diffed :( I know there's nothing can be said or done. I'll just never understand it.

I chart and all it is showing at the moment is that I am having really random cycles. CBFM said I peaked on day 9 & 10 but my chart suggested that i ovulated on day 15. I am having some quite short cycles too Bugs. No idea why.

I am just feeling a bit miserable tonight. Someone at choir announced they're pregnant again and I am just feeling bitter. Not healthy and I am feeling as though I am being punished!.

I have to say I've found charting invaluable. It's always pinpointed ovulation, just a shame we've not managed to time sechs properly every time!

[hands a large whiskey over to Dor]

Well we managed to dtd last night. I feel pretty guilty for getting HWHNN to come back, he had to get up at 3.30am so that he could drive back to base and catch his lift to Wales at 7.30

The OPKs are definitely negative now, but I'm waiting for confirmation of my temperature shift. It's gone up a bit, but not as much as normal. Cervix is still soft and open, so I'm really hoping it wasn't a false LH surge

Menkul, menkul, menkul,menkul ...

Really not enjoying sechsing at all at the moment. My body just feels all shut down, erotically speaking, and the whole thing is a struggle not to block access to any supposedly erogenous zone his hands might stray towards. :(

Norfy! Thanks so much for the chocolate delivery. That is very much appreciated.

fee I'm sorry to hear about your Dad. I think our parents are at the age where they are starting to break a bit. My mum has had breast cancer followed by a secondary bone tumour in her neck and my dad has an incurable (but manageable) form of bladder cancer. They look surprisingly well on it though!

Cavey that is impressive dedication to the cause from HWHNN.

I am a charter and have been for the best part of a year. I find it really useful for knowing what is going on with my cycle. I am contemplating whether or not to leave my thermometer behind when I go off on my travels soon. It's the start of our IVF cycle so there is conflicting advice on whether or not we should be trying this cycle anyway. Part of me wants to just forget about ttc and my cycles for a while, but I think I am a little bit additcted!

Thanks euro. I think the hardest thing about dealing with Dad's Cancer is that Mum died of ovarian cancer 4 years ago. So now I've been told three times that one of my parents has cancer :( That's why I'm so dedicated to my 10k, because I'm raising money for an ovarian cancer charity. It's ovarian cancer awareness month BTW. If any of you would like are willing to sponsor me, I'll pm you the link to my justgiving page.
Northey I know what you mean..sometimes it's just too much..I suppose the dynamics are different since you moved as well?

Ps hoping and praying for this cycle euro

Phoenix, I'd be glad to sponsor you. My mum had ovarian cancer, diagnosed at 30 when pregnant with me, but survived. I know we're really lucky. I've done 10ks before for them, but nothing recently. Didn't even know it was awareness month. Not sure how pm works, but send a link to me and I'll try to find it...

Sorry everyone's having a tough time. Think I'm just around/past ov (cd21- damned cycles) and already menkulling. Any one else not sleep well in the 2ww. I don't think it's stress, I feel ok, but I've been waking up at least 3 times/night in the 2ww in my last 2 cycles, and did the same last night. Not that it matters, of course, but I do love to obsess...

Oh, and babydust? Here? yuck.