Assisted Conception (and all the bits that go with it) volume 9

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A new snug for us AC ladies

Mini wow, yay for your two, are you naming them [nosy emotion!]

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Mini Good luck for your blasts to go to FET stage. I hope they will make it and you will feel a real sense of peace now your two are on board. HUGE hugs.

Josie yes we had our treatment all in the UK. The waiting time we were quoted this time was about 8-10 months, the time before it was about 12 months. Both times the waiting time quoted was correct but due to circumstances outside our control, and outside the clinics control as well, both times we had treatment it was delayed. Once because donor did not have enough eggs so we had to go with a different donor (arranged by clinic, which caused a delay of about three months) and second time we had a holiday booked and so we arranged to have treatment after holiday which caused a delay of about 6 weeks. The clinics should all have an idea of how long the wait is, they certainly can't guarantee it, but ours were quite accurate. Some overseas clinics may not have a wait time, some will. I am sure someone else on here had recently done some research into this. My info would all be out of date now. Anyway, chin up, it's not over until the fat lady sings and I'm not singing yet! Try not to make any hasty decisions just yet, just see what happens Friday and then evaluate in the light of day. All VERY best wishes.

Scrummy enjoy your time off work. ALL very best wishes for egg collection.

Bugsylugs I had level 2 Chicago test done at Care and it cost about a grand. Not cheap but not £1,800 either! Good luck. I am a firm believer in getting to the bottom of what is going on, or not going on. So very good luck to you in this search. If you do need to go down the IVIG/Intralipids route remember that Intralipids are much cheaper than IVIG.

Thanks Pocket huge hugs to you. When is your FET?

Hugs to all, I am feeling mega emotional today and sore eyes now after a long hard cry. Just waiting. 30 hours to go!

That bugrin was meant to be a grin with bunny ears twice!

Just imagine the ears Mini

italian I hope you are feeling better this morning. This is so hard on us but you have done so great until now. Not long to go. Sending lots and lots of positive peaceful thoughts your way. Thanks for your good luck wishes - I hope EC is soon

minih well done! And thanks for your tip re recovery. I'm planning bed rest for those days I'm not required at the clinic for the next two weeks. I'm worn out

Italian honey big hug to you my love. Allow yourself to think about 'what if this actually works'

FET likely mid may but will know more in next fortnight - downreg jab booked for Monday. Then we wait for af, then scan, then I'm on my pills and patches till I am ready. You can hold my hand while you relish your BFP

Italian not sure this will help but after my ET in December I only had to wait 9 days after transfer to test. Clinic did my blood test in the morning and called with result in the afternoon. Sorry if that confuses more. And ignore if this doesn't help... x

I think (and again may just be adding to confusion) time to blood test depends on what stage the embryo was at when transferred - so if a blastocyst day 5 embryo then 9 days would sound right.

Italian really hope you are feeling happier this morning. A big cry sometimes is the best thing in the world to let it all out. Thanks as well for your bunny ears and kind words. I do feel very calm at the moment, but that's largely because it all feels completely surreal and I keep having to remind myself what's actually happened in the last 10 days. We haven't named them as yet, although I think we may cave as 'A' and 'B' is not very catchy!

Scrummy any more scans/updates from you today? Presumably they are scanning you every day given how close you are - I really don't miss the scanning - by the end I found it quite uncomfortable using the scanning thing. FX for you.

Italian I hope you're feeling better, thanks very much for your info, it's really helpful. I hope the hours pass quickly for you.

Pocket I hope the time passes quickly for you too and you can get started again soon

Nothing going on here, still waiting...

Hello ladies, thought I'd do a quick update. Had my scan yesterday. On the plus side, ovaries have turned off nicely, hurray.

On the down side, my AF only turned up just before the appointment (literally just before, in the 30 minute walk from my house to the hospital!). This in itself wouldn't usually be a problem but the doctor then (very bluntly) says that if my womb lining hasn't reduced to 5 mm by the 16th then they will have to cancel the cycle because the last day they can have anyone starting the stimm injections is the 16th as they are moving the clinic to a different part of the hospital and will be out of action for a month or so.

My initial reaction was Errm, WHAT?! You have spent the last two months assuring us that the treatment for everyone currently in treatment would not be disrupted by the move. I have just spent the last 30 minutes in your waiting room reading notices which assure everyone that treatment will not be disrupted. Now you are telling me you might cancel my cycle on Monday even though I am responding in a normal manner.

This is not something I was prepared for. In fact didn't even manage to challenge what the doctor said as I was hustled in and out and rebooked for another scan on Monday all within about 5 minutes and told to double my Buserelin dose until then. All I managed were a few shocked tears (which was a bit embarrassing).

And DH is in Madrid so had to give him the news over the phone which wasn't great. Still, at least he is home tonight so I can have a squeeze.

Am a bit more sanguine about it all today although veering between blind optimism of it being all okay and ready to go on Monday and extreme anger at the clinic. Still, at least by Monday I will be collected enough to challenge things!

Fingers crossed for the rest of you - hopefully I will be reading of some more success stories soon so this week goes better for others!

Badger that's disgusting! If you're responding well then they have absolutely no right to cancel your cycle! I can't believe they've said that!

Josie the thing I really don't get is that they have known my dates all along, when I was starting etc and their own literature says that you take Buserelin for 2 to 3 weeks so it's not like it's unexpected that I might need to take it for more than 2 weeks. And I have long cycles, which they also know, so even I could predict that I'd be one of the ones who has to take it a bit longer!!

Oh, and coz of the move I doubt I would be able to start again until July so then suddenly I'm looking at a September potential EC and ET rather than end of April/beginning of May. Oh good, another 6 months older...

Badger you poor love. You have not been kindly treated today which is unacceptable. Thank goodness DH is back for a cuddle. Can you call Clinic tmw, say that delay isn't acceptable and ask for a plan b - surely they have considered how they might manage those in their care! In the meantime, fx your lining does as it's told (talk to it) and Monday can go ahead as planned. x

Thanks Josie I am wishing away the days. But I am scared at going again. Hope you're managing not to google too much. Just rest. Test day is soon and you can shout bfp from the rooftops!

Good point Mini. Mine was 5 day blasto so that plus 9 = 14 days. I'm shocked how dim I am sometimes

Thinking of you Italian

Hi to everyone x

Badger am quite surprised would be really disgusted in your position is it nhs or private? Hopefully scan on Mon means it is a non issue anyway
Italian hope today feels a bit better am thinking of you you have been so strong caring and an inspiration.
Josie how are you doing nearly there
Waves to all

Josie sweets sorry you aren't feeling great. I am sending you loads of positive vibes for Friday, as we all are.

Scrummy sounds like all is going well. Glad you have some time off over this period. I've got my schedule and wondering if I'll need a day off work for ET as well as EC. What do you think?

Italian woo too the countdown to your BFP is on! Muchos positive vibes to you as well!

Maple Hope your cold is better? Sounds like you've made started to make a plan re ED.

Badger that is absolutely ridiculous with your hospital and all the potential stuffing around. I second Pocket, a calm but firm call when you are ready to make them know how unhappy you are and that they'll be needing to come up with a plan B if needed. Sometimes I think these doc and nurses (although many are fantastic) forget that although you might be the 20th person they've seen that day, that for you each visit is such a build up.

Mini fantastic news about ET. Hope the 2ww goes quickly and peacefully for you.

Pocket I'm provisionally scheduled for ET about May 10-13 so not far from you perhaps?

Quite a busy day here. Off to first fertility acupuncture session this morning. Had acupuncture before for other things but not for ages. Had forgotten how relaxing it is. Which was good as the rest of the afternoon was not so relaxing. Went to clinic for Saline Infusion Scan and Pipelle procedure thingy. Was told not more painful than HSG (which I found fine) and told to take 2 paracetamol 1 hour beforehand. Well um same as HSG, I don't think so. Really really painful. So much so burst into tears like a real cry baby. Probably didn't help that they were about 45 minutes late so by then maybe paracetamol no good. But at the end of it all doc said probably should have given me some pethadine or something. Um yeah, 2 little paracetamol didn't even take the edge off. Anyway survived to tell the tale.

Start down regging injections tonight. First ever! Wasn't told, am I supposed to keep Suprecor in the fridge?

Hugs to everyone else. Sorry if I've missed you.

Wow, there is so much action on here at the moment!

Italian, Josie, Mini- I'm sending you the biggest storm of baby dust ever! Please, please, please try to stay calm and positive!

Scrummy-I'm with you on how exhausting everything is! I took a week off for my egg collection and embryo transfer, but continued to work through the down-regging and the stimms. No matter how much water you are drinking, they'll tell you to drink more, but it's good because it keeps you from overstimulating. I went a little crazy after my egg collection. I rested for that day and the day after, then I redecorated my lounge. In three days! New furniture from Ikea which I put together after taking apart my old Ikea furniture, plus repainting the whole room. It helped to be distracted while waiting to see what my embryos did. Luckily they all made it to blast.

Badger- That is a load of crap! I'm constantly amazed by the lack of sensitivity at these fertility clinics. Don't they know that the waiting is the worst bit for us? Not to mention the fact that they knew they were moving and continued treating patients. They should FIND a way to continue treatment while they're moving.

sunny- Glad to hear things are moving along, but sorry to hear that Pipelle thingy was so painful! But at least it's over and done with, right?

Pocket and bugsy- You'll be starting your treatments again sooner than you think. Time goes by so quickly!

lucy- Well done you on another landmark! Hope you're feeling well...

Keziah- Hugs to you and baby David. Hope you're enjoying every minute!

AFM, my Rosie is eight weeks today! Holy crap, where did the time go? It just flew by! I think I was treated to my first smile today, too! Went to the clinic and had her weighed, and she's now 9 lbs, 9 oz. She's gaining weight quite steadily, which I'm thrilled to bits about, as I'm still exclusively breastfeeding. Her little cheeks have filled out quite nicely.

Neighbors are still super-jerks. We had a little hiatus, but now they're back in full force. Loud enough to activate the baby's startle reflex, so I'm extremely pissed off. Hoping to solve the problem soon, as we have been in touch with the owner of the flat.

Anyhoo, hugs, chocolate boobs, and loads of baby dust to anyone I've missed. I'm looking forward to seeing loads of good news soon! Although I may not post a lot, I do lurk quite a bit....

Badger that is terrible. Try and be calm and ask about plan B. It is not acceptable to put up signs saying the treatment will not be disrupted and then to disrupt it. A long wait is not good. Be firm and emotional if it helps, or cold and cool if it helps. Whatever happens make it clear what you need and a six month wait is certainly NOT what you need. The doc sounds like a bully and a bit of a coward to usher you off, best to just be calm, and have your DH help to get to the bottom of the plans with you. DON'T be embarrassed to cry, why you should be embarrassed to cry! It's only natural. He should be embarrassed to suggest altering your treatment when the signs and literature at clinic say they will not! Take heart - we are all with you honey.

Josie and all, big hugs.

Thanks one and all for your kind comments. Only a few hours to go. I am feeling stoical. I kind of feel it has not worked but only time will tell. Maybe there are other child/ren to adopt or to nurture, maybe there are books to write, who knows what is around the next corner if a big pregnant belly is not. Thank you for being part of my journey.

Hugs.

Good luck Italian & Josie

Still lurking and waiting for AF to arrive and she is 17 days late! Spend most of the time not wanting her to arrive and now she doesn't appear and I can't start the next cycle.......grrrrr.

Hello and happy Thursday to everyone else

Sunny buserelin doesn't need to go in the fridge. Sorry you had such a bad experience, but it's over now, and hopefully you'll never have to go through it again Enjoy acupuncture

Lissy that time has absolutely flown by! Great that little Rosie is doing so well

Italian best of luck honey, fingers crossed for your BFP

Sorry you're having to wait Weller, hopefully AF shows up soon

I'm really really scared for tomorrow, and quite upset (I know I'm jumping the gun a bit but I like to be prepared) as my clinic just told me their waiting list for donor eggs is 'a considerable length of time'

Josie huge hugs. You don't even need to think of egg donors today. Massive positive thoughts for you.

Italian - thinking of you today. Let us know when you can.

Josie - still keeping my fingers crossed for you for tomorrow.

Badger I truly have no words for how rubbish they are being. I can only second, and third, what everyone else has said. I really hope it gets sorted out for you.

Sunnyg good luck with the down reg injections and give yourself a treat after the horrible procedure. There seems to be no end to the ways in which our bodies have to go through pain on this journey!

hugs to all xx

Badger any news? Did you speak to your clinic again?

Sunny sorry your procedure was so uncomfortable. For the record there is nothing wrong with a good cry, its just a natural part of this journey. I've even cried today! Better out than in, my nan used to say!

Italian and Josie big hugs to you both x

Lissy its so nice to hear your udpates, it sounds like you're really enjoying your time with Rosie which is just lovely x

AFM I am driving myself completely mad. Despite lining up my next round with consultant I just cannot push immunes to one side. I am on the verge of postponing, getting my immunes tested with Dr Gorgy and seeing where that takes me. I cant help thinking that if I dont test and the next round doesnt work, i will be so regrettful for not doing more. Aaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhhh why is this so difficult?

Pocket I e-mailed one of the nurses this morning to ask her if I'd understood correctly as it seems wrong to me and said how stressful and upsetting it had been. She sent a ncie e-mail back and was going to speak to one of the consultants about it and get back to me.

It's just one of those difficult places where I feel like everything will probably be fine by Monday so no need to worry about it and bother the clinic but finally realised I should at least raise the question. I've also e-mailed a private clinic to establish whether swithcing mid-cycle would even be a possiblity.

We shall see!

Have got my fingers crossed for Italian and *Josie"'s results and everone else.

Thanks to you all for your kind messages - they have nearly made me blub again. I am not usually much of a cryer - all of the hormones are getting to me!!

Badger I hope they can sort something out for you, or that you don't need it sorted IYKWIM

I'm leaving work now till Tuesday, and will be buying my tests on the way home. If I'm not on tomorrow, it's negative. If it's positive I'll be straight on to let you all know. I will be lurking anyway to see how Italian gets on

Diving in quickly..... Sending hugs and vibes to Josie and Italian - will do proper post when rat bag is back at school - he is just learning to ride his bike and I feel like I am constantly outside!!!!

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Thanks everyone am feeling better today. Bit sore, but over it now. Thanks Josie for the info, rang clinic this morning as had mild panic had taken taken a wee bit too much for first injection but all fine. This stuff can be confusing eh!

Badger really glad you've emailed your clinic and another as well. I'm all about making the plan, even though I'm sure on Monday everything will still be fine and you can progress where you are.

weller sorry to hear AF is playing up. Typical eh. Fingers crossed it arrives soon so you can get cycling.

Lissy Wow I can't believe Rosie is really 8 weeks already. She sounds sooo gorgeous. Thanks for the updates and popping in. Really give us all hope.

And a BIG BIG good luck, we are all thinking of you and cheering for you to both Josie and Italian. We will be waiting for your good news.

and hugs to mini, Keziah, Mo, Scrummy, Vallinnapod, pocket, chutney and sorry anyone else I've missed....... oxo