IVF/ICSI/FET - any more for any more?

[jumpingjackhash]

Hi all, we're about to start FET following an unsuccessful round of ICSI last year (well, we got the bfp, but then I miscarried shortly after ). But... time to get back on the bike and go again...

Anyone else going through this?

I'm having my progesterone blood tests tomorrow, so getting close to starting, getting very nervous now! Just watched someone on YouTube giving themselves an injection, not sure I can do that... Will down regging be injections or sniffing?

karbea DR can be either ink or sniff my clinic use ink as cheaper
pocket thanks for your kind words on other thread. Feel emotionally shattered like a wrung cloth. GP had phoned by the time we got home . Asked us to phone back they then phoned us at 7:45 apparently car want us referred to epau odd they did not tell us.

pumpkinjoy sorry I was following pocket by a couple of weeks. Had ICSI . ET in Dec bfp then 7 week scan good heart beat confirmed all gone wrong today . Lo had grown more dh said looked like snowman with no beat I did not look. I had been lurking maybe I knew. Should be on call tomorrow but this time not going in. Wish I was employed and could take time out

Hello girls, is there room for a little one? I've been lurking for a long long time but started to feel like a stalker.
Bugsylugs, I'm so sorry. I don't think you ever relax when it's an IVF baby but you must have breathed a huge sigh of relief when you saw a heartbeat.

Hello all! Wow it has got busy!
Jumpingjackflash - did find it useful using the CD. I am a born worrier and always anxious so it was great to take the time out to just relax and think about the embie finding a home! I am certainly not normally into that sort of thing. I followed a lot of her advise in the book - have cut out the caffeine etc and been on the supplements.

So, I had my surge on Tuesday after another scan on Monday which found my lining at 10.8 and a follicle at 18 so that was a relief. Must be a super long cycle this time! So...fembie will be thawed on Monday and ET at 1145 if s/he survives the thaw. Feels like a long time away but fembie is a blastocyst so 5 days old. I just need patience! IVF really does test patience doesn't it. I'm not looking forward to the eternity of the 2ww. Tick, tock!

It is busy, isn't it?! Hello everyone! How are we all?

Bugsylugs so sorry to hear your news but you just don't know yet for sure do you? Fingers crossed for you - stay positive for your LO! Do you know why they want to refer you to EPU? Let us know how you get on hon.

Karbea, I was truly dreading the injections but it's just a scratch like when they take bloods. It helps to have a little fat roll on your tummy in my experience! I started off using an ice cube to numb where I would inject and ended up stopping needing to do that. You do get used to very quickly, in fact in a weird way, now I'm not doing it, I miss the ritual of it. Not much missing progesterone passaries though, yuk! I found Zita West CD also helped.

Knackeredcow thanks for your advice on when to FET, I'm starting to feel like we'll be ready quite soon. I just want a baby more than ever now and I'm running out of time, so I think we're just going to go for it this year. Amazed you got 12 eggs on short protocol and fantastic they all fertilised. I was on a lower dose of GonalF (alternating 112.5 and 150) but I would like more eggs so we could take some to blastocyst stage (if we have to do that again).

Pumpkinjoy sorry abour MMCs and hope you're recovering OK from the lap - did they find anything?

Good luck Emma and monkeybumsmum with your embies on board - you're next Rakkers I think?

Am watching OBEM, which never quite manages to put me off and always makes me cry and do a lot of shouting at the telly. Also, AF is on her way, which I'm quite glad about as it means we can start the FET cycle in a months time.

Must go to bed now, DH is already snoring :)

Rakkars Looks like we're transfer buddies. I had my surge day yesterday too and am also booked in for transfer on Monday if frosty thaws! Feeling quite nervous now.

Lotion unfortunately scan showed missed m/ c . Think have to go to epau as nhs will not accept private scans. Do not want to go, even though unit is new not designed well no private rooms so preg at upset ladies all together. Also tv on bbc 1 last few times real rescue on every time injured child last time they had to intubate. Sorry me me me. I will ask to be in sep room.
Good luck those testing and on the bench take it gently

Hi all sorry AWOL but been at my dad's with no internet access. Back now-booked in for accupuncture at 4 and made appt to discuss FET with our one and only frostie next tuesday-feel happy to ahve made some progress although feeling quite blue for some reason-Shopping DID help me and bought some lovely shoes which I have been practising wearing HAha! Back to work monday-laparoscopy/hysteroscopy showed nothing abnormal-dye went through but there was a false channel??! Discussing it all tuesday but hoping nothing will delay FET-putting so much faith in x1 frostie snowflake does freak me out but realised what a gorgeous loving DH i have! Feel want to get on with it-36 in april :)
Bugsy am so so sorry to hear your news-I know exactly what you mean about the environment of the hospital being ghastly and TV actually making whole experience worse-EPU when i had my first mmc had Jeremy Kyle talking paternity tests and shouting constantly-I wanted to be sick-hopefully, get a private room. We also had issue about them not accepting private scans-in end we got them to liaise together and then i had the ERPC-it is such a difficult time and one which is so personal to individual couples and hard after having ICSI on this horrid emotional 'rollercoaster'.
Love to all-am gonna try to get into the sunshine and do some gardening before the nasty frosts which is being promised for next week-I love sunny crispy days. Think serene and calm! Chat soon xxx

Glad it's sunny enough for gardening with you pumpkin- it's horrible here! Bit of serene gardening is just what you need. Hope everyone else is ok today. Any 2ww waiters obsessing yet?! I had first stim scan today on day 7. I have oestrogen level of 1400 and about 18 follicles all at 10-12mm which is great. I have quite a lot of cramping already though, so I dread to think what size my ovaries will be by wednesday which is best guess for surgery at the moment... Any other news?

Hi everyone. Got back from a lovely 12 days in Thailand yesterday- relaxed,brown and- argh jet lagged- hence early posting o'clock!!
Just caught up on everyone's news- so busy on here.
Bugsy- oh my gosh - so sorry to hear your news. How many weeks were you? How unfair life can be sometimes. Thinking of you & sending love
Jumping - how are the meds? Any side effects yet? Waiting for AF- hopefully in a week or so time, unless of course I've managed to conceive naturally this month who am I kidding! We thought Guys were great for IVF so sticking with them happily for FET.

Hello to all the newbees on here- rackerrs, lotions and others(sorry can't seem to scroll back to do proper name check as writing this under the covers in bed on I phone!) Also thinkng of the 2ww waiters too-- fingers crossed

Must say feeling relaxed but very apprehensive about FET- what if I don't get BFp this time or what if I MC again at 7 weeks. Argh. Lots of sleepless nights on holiday worrying about things I Have absolutely no control over at all happily my DH is a saint as well.
Turing 40 this year and can't even THinK about a party as just want to be PG and then I think I will be happy and feel I can take my life & personality off the "pause" button! sorry me me me!

Happy weekends to everyone.
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Hello everyone!
I hope that you are all enjoying your weekends. Welcome back to the UK zeebee1! A cold awakening!! :0
Knackeredcow - are you feeling like I am??! I am trying to be so cool, calm and collected but I can't help but feel a real mixture of nerves and excitement. It has been hard work thinking how to tell work about it all - I hadn't wanted to tell them but as I work 3 days a week (M-W), with ET on a Mon, I have to take the rest of my working week off as I did last time and I don't want to be back at work with all the stresses of strains of work as well as the commute... so first off a late holiday request but with the possibility that I won't need to take it... what if fembie doesn't even survive the thaw? So confused! I told them in the end... Figured that I will only regret it if i go back to work and it doesn't work out. Goodness, IVF really tests huh?! I'm obviously happy that I am not on drugs at the moment but it is the not knowing about whether there will be an embryo to put back tomorrow is tough. Oh well... does anyone know how quickly they will know if it has thawed? I'm booked in for 1145...?
Bugsy - so sorry about your news. hugs
To those I haven't mentioned by name I am thinking of you all. It's such a journey...

Hello everyone

Would it be ok if I join you all? I am about to start my first cycle of Ivf ( with icsi) in a few weeks time and have been lurking on here and mums net generally for WAY too long and thought it was time I said hello.

Good luck to all those about to do FETs, IVF/ICSI and in the 2ww and sincerest condolences to those who have had bad news recently. I know it's been said before but it is a really tough journey isn't it. Forums like this can be a great help though I think - has certainly helped me by my lurking!

zeebee welcome home maybe thats what I need!, I was ok at 7 weeks all pear shaped at 9 weeks but had grown at least another week but dating 7.5 weeks. Am still waiting for something to happen. Go frostie go
pocket when did nature take over? good luck with getting an all clear scan but like I said I was not completely clear and did not need op.
chickenfordinner welcome which clinic are you ate ignore if you do not want to say
pumpkin hope yo got to do some gardening,
ellan go ovaries go but behave as well. Is next scan tomorrow?
italian thinking of you hope all is well
Waves to everyone else sorry for not naming everyone still feeling tired and well you all know what I mean sorry

Hi chicken, welcome! I did the same as you and lurked for ages before plucking up the courage to join!

Bugsy so sorry to hear your news, it's so not fair. Thinking of you...

Hi zeebee how does it feel going from lovely warm Thailand to almost Arctic Britain - brrrr! You never know what might have happened on hols, it's supposed to be one of the quirks of IVF that people conceive naturally afterwards. We're in the same place this month, FET after the next AF, although I'm wondering if I should do a short protocol and 'bank' some more frozen embies while I still can.

Rakkers and Knackered Cow - good luck tomorrow with your FETs and ellangirl fingers crossed for Wednesday (is that going to be egg collection?).

Anyone else got any major milestones this week (esp any testing)??

Evening all, just a quick visit from me so apologies for no personals. I'm feeling rather panicky and down actually because I'm pretty certain that the FET hasn't worked . Test date is Tuesday, but I am holding out no hope at all. I wish somebody could tell me that this will work at some point, I am just so terrified that it won't

Hope you're all okay x

Hey
Thanks for the welcome. Bugsy (how do I make the name bold? outing myself as a newbie even more!!!) I am doing transfer Ivf with the bridge in London and my local hospital. My local is pretty grim to look at but the women's health dept is really good and DH and I both really like our consultant. Wait for NHS funded cycle was 3 years so we have opted to self fund. Feel lucky in some ways we can just about afford it but slightly begrudge having to spend what should have been money to cover my mat leave but there you go. Are most other people self funding too??

Oh and I have no experience in this what so ever but feeling like it hasn't worked doesn't necc mean it hasn't. Am sure there's lots who felt like that and got lucky. It ain't over till the fat lady sings..... X

To get bold look down at the pictures you put a star the name then star no spaces. Hope you are still on nhs list as a back up. But of course you will get your bfp so not needed. We are self funding as we are v v lucky and have ds . It is or was a mixture of funding not sure. Quite a rew ladies are London way. Keeping our fingers crossed

Quick post from me. Am a quaking wreck at the moment. Waiting for embryologist to call to tell us whether our embie has survived the thaw. Feel sick with worry. I'm down for a 9.30am transfer if our one and only frosty makes it. Have to go to work afterwards too as got to attend a meeting that I can't get out of. Currently want to hide under duvet until test day. DH got an exam today too so had to travel down to London last night so all on my tod.

Rakkers good luck to you too for today.
Lotions thanks for best wishes!

monkeys really hoping your FET has worked. Fx for test day

Welcome Chicken we're NHS funded for this cycle - failed IVF then FET - because I had an identified cause of infertility so no wait for that with my PCT - it's three years otherwise. It's so variable across the country though. It's such an unfair system.

Sorry for me, me, me post today.

Our embryo didn't survive. Feel so low.

We only had two good quality embryos at day 5 of fresh cycle. The clinic that I'm with is very big on pushing eSET - they actually advise on policy nationally I believe. I've always felt we were pushed into an eSET where the risk of the loss of the second embryo was too high. Apparantly the HFEAs target for clinics for multiple births is no higher than 25%. Our clinic has a 10% multiple birth rate. Have just told embryologist that when the chance of embryo thawing is only 70%, and I only had one, I think I should have had a DET when fresh. I mc my fresh one early, but it was not quite as good as the frozen. I just wonder if it would have been very different if I'd had both put back fresh.

Sorry - it's me, me, me again. Just feel absolutely floored.

Hi all, just a quick one to check in (been away and unable to post for a little while).

Welcome to all the new-comers!

Bugsy, so sorry . It must be so hard to 'see it working' then not.

Knackered - oh no. I can see why you're frustrated and low. FWIW we had a DET and it still went tits-up, it's all just one big BIG gamble and it's shit. Don't really know what to say - I know I'll be gutted if ours doesn't thaw well (we only have one too). Just sending you hugs.

This is all just so fecking shit and unfair.

Chicken where is your health authority? Ours stopped funding for all fertility treatment just before we got our first referral appointment (by 3 days!) so we're self-funding too (using the money we would have saved for my mat leave, getting all the baby bits etc). On the plus side, it meant we got to start straight away instead of joining a never-ending waiting list and we also got to choose our clinic (which is a blessing as our local place is minging, depressing and a PITA to get to for the 'drop of a hat' appointments!).

I'm on my de-regging now, on buserelin, and am feeling pretty weird - my body, hands and feet will be freezing but my face and head really hot, plus I think I'm getting a cold so my nose feels sore - not helping!

I think we need some more tips for keeping sane and positive about all of this ladies - it seems shoe shopping and holidays are helping some?!

Oh knackered I'm so sorry to hear that, you must feel so frustrated. I have read a lot about eSET as my first clinic were very forceful about the issue too, it's a bit of a minefield isn't it, and none of us really know what to do for the best!
monkey best of luck for testing tomorrow,I've got everything crossed for you.
I'm waiting to hear if egg collection will be wed or Thursday. Kind of hoping for thurs, otherwise we've got to book a ferry, get the animals to kennels, pack, tidy etc all this afternoon ready to travel tomorrow first thing!

Oh knackered I am so so sorry. I was totally with you on the nerves this morning. Thinking of you..hugs
monkey - massive baby dust for tomorrow's testing.
ellangirl, hoping for your sake that EC is for Thurs as that does sound like a lot to organise but sure whatever happens it will be fine!
chicken - we are self funding for this one... we were super lucky that our first round of ICSI was NHS funded and it worked so our frostie came from this cycle.

Thanks for your luck today - fembie is back in place - although did take 2 attempts to be replaced... thank goodness they check the catheters before the legs can be released from the stirrups! Cheeky fembie still in there! Joked that it was obviously a very sticky embryo so hoping it's a good sign. Test date - 11 Feb...
Big waves for all I have missed...

knackered am so sorry for you what a let down. I know all about the what ifs wish we had put the third unfreezable one back

Hey all, just checking in. Interesting to read all the variety in funding and what the NHS does - and doesn't - provide. Really isn't fair for there to be such variability.

I Don't know you all well enough yet to be up to speed on quite where you're at in this headfuck wonderful journey but wanted to say how sorry I was to read your news knackered. If I've learnt anything so far on this journey it's that we have to give ourselves time to grieve such losses. Thinking of you.

Good luck to rakkers and everyone else in the 2ww.

AFM I have not had the best day - went to see our fertility nurse to learn how to do the injections, which actually wasn't as scary as I thought it would be, and whilst there asked about our blood test results. Turns out, My AMH is v v low at 1.9. I am only 31 and no history of early menopause or anything like that in the family so was a huge shock. She didn't seem to think it would be too much of a problem, just that I'd need more drugs, but from what I've read online it seems much more serious than this. Not feeling anywhere near as hopeful about Ivf after this but self medicating with pizza and chocolate!!! x