IVF/ICSI/FET - any more for any more?

[jumpingjackhash]

Hi all, we're about to start FET following an unsuccessful round of ICSI last year (well, we got the bfp, but then I miscarried shortly after ). But... time to get back on the bike and go again...

Anyone else going through this?

Fantastic news duggs - to get such huge number of eggs to start with is brilliant . Hopefully a good number will fertilise too.

Glad you liked the G&T - verrrrrrrry nice feeling!
So far so good xxx

Well done diggs, you are right it's not abbot numbers but nice to have a little bit of flex if some aren't A+ :)

Afm - I tried to buy first response pregnancy kits, and neither of the two chemists had any :S

19 Duggs!! holy moly, well done old girl that is phenomenal.

Hope you're ok Josie.

Thinking of everyone on the 2ww.

Sorry ladies that a moan is coming. I'm feeling a bit irrational and tearful tonight. I keep going over and over in my head that none of our embryos made it to blast stage on day 5 or 6 as they should have. Worried that the compacted one we put back(our best one on day 5) has also arrested as they did in the lab...............
I know that I am extremely, extremely lucky to have our daughter and she truly was a miracle, but I am just worrying we have a slim chance this time and going round in circles.

Raspberry it's only natural to be thinking like this during the horrendous waiting period. But you've got to remember that embryos ate known to survive better inside the human body, and no matter how good they make the cultured medium it's nowhere near as homely and comforting as Mummy's lining.
Have a lie down with Zita and maybe even a back rub from DH and you'll soon be feeling better x x chin up x

((high five)) for 19 eggs Duggs - fingers crossed for good numbers tomorrow x

thanks Angel - just so tearful tonight - must be all the drugs and maybe tension release after such rollercoaster week.
Hope you get on ok with the stim drugs tonight. Zita sounds like a good plan - I haven't done the post transfer bit yet.

Hope you are feeling ok duggs and not too achy.

Oh raspberry! Yes the best place is back inside you. I know I'll be so nervous next week if we get that far, but you've done everything possible AND have added knowledge of normal chromosomes so you really have made the best out of what you have and afterall what more can anyone do. I think is pretty good going. Time time time we are all trapped in this waiting time bubble so torturous. Hope zita helped. Big hug

Raspberry I know exactly how you feel mine went back in on day 3 too. The only reason my clinic wait to blast is if there isn't two obvious front runners. My two were way ahead of the other three, so that's why they went back, but I really wish they'd made it to blast, but there is nothing wither of us can do now. They are best off inside us, so just think positive (hug)

Thanks Karbea - the waiting and the unknown are so difficult. Not long for you now. Was probably a good thing that both chemists didn't have the sticks.............Hope you manage to enjoy the weekend. I think two clear front runners for a day 3 transfer has a very good chance - (and that was what worked with our daughter ).

Are you doing ok Jumping??

We are going away on Sunday for a week to my family's caravan - no internet access though - so I'll miss everyone's updates - will need to see if I can find access somewhere (really thinking about upgrading to an iphone or similar)...........although will stop me doing Dr google and looking at vidoes of embryos............

hey ladies..just had a call from the clinic and out of the 19 eggs they collected.. 13 were mature enough for ICSI. Out of those 13 all of them fertilised so the clinic were pleased with the 100% fertilisaiton rate. Now we must wait until Monday morning for a call to tell us how they have got on over the weekend. They will then decide how many (if any) are eligble for CGH testing. Tuesday is when the CGH test results are back (my most scary moment as I am sure this is my main issue). I was told yesterday by the embryologist that I would be a day 3 transfer candidate because of my history (recurrent miscarriage ). From what I have read.. getting the embies back into us gives a higher survival rate. The day 5 blasto option is as you said karbea is really to identify any obvious front runners and is better for single transfers. Think the no internet thing is good raspberry wish I had that discipline as I am always on my iphone. DH and I just spent an hour talking about our options including egg donation and adpotion. If we don't get anywhere with 19 eggs and 200 million sperm then I think we need to call it a day and accept our lot and embrace the alternatives positively. Just don't want to waste more years on this journey. But will try to end with a more positive note. We are all doing all we can possible and there is not much more people can do that that

That is absolutely brilliant new duggs - to have 13 fertilised means you should have a good number to test - and hopefully normals in there too - great, great, great . It does add to the stress waiting for your CGH result - but I'll bet it will be so useful for you. Do they do a polar body test after ICSI or are you having a biopsy of monday from the embryos themselves - sounds like a slightly different test.?

No on Monday they do a polar body test - send to Oxford lab and then results back in Tuesday morning and fingers crosses will have some normal ones.. or a normal one to put back or freeze if more than one. Same as yours wasn't it ?

We had ICSI and straight after on same day polar biopsy - then left to grow and results matched up when available - also sent off to Oxford. I'm really hoping for you duggs and also Josie, Karbea, jumping and lemon in the 2WW

I just spoke to the embryologist this morning and she said that although the others arrested it is possible that the ones we put back have but they were they best on that day and in the best environment. Had some mild cramping last night and felt almost like AF starting but so mild was probably just my imagination. I just can't stop crying and I'm going to have to shake myself out of it. I think because I already have a daughter that it is hard for people to understand and that I should count my blessings - whilst I know that is true I just can't stop the tears. Did Zita this morning but hasn't really helped.
Also haven't said to my family and not sure if I should - they are wonderful but it is that feeling of being under a microscope.
I'm so sorry duggs and other ladies - its is all me me me...........

Aw Raspberry, sorry you're feeling so low, I know there's not much anyone can do but we've all got our fingers crossed that the embryo is still healthy

Duggs how great to have 13 eggs fertilised!

Thanks Lemon I saw your post before I left work for the clinic and it helped a lot as I was getting quite nervous at that point.

Angel I think we have to look after ourselves more than we realise when we're on so many drugs, so I still think eating and drinking properly is a good idea, best to be on the safe side

Well my IUI went well yesterday. They don't usually do surgeries on Friday afternoons so we were lucky, and we were obviously the only ones in so it was nice and peaceful. I was very brave and let DH come in with me for the procedure, and he was fab, a hand to squeeze can make the world of difference. He says I didn't squeeze hard, but it was more out of nerves than pain. It was uncomfortable but nowhere near as crampy as the HSG. I was quite crampy all day yesterday but am ok now, and hopefully I have embryos growing in there now. I now totally understand why the 2ww is so awful, I'm already frantically wondering what's going on in there. Have they fertilised? When will they implant? etc etc I'm going to be going mad soon!

ahh raspberry think of your DD. Too much information is a risky thing. You have done the very best with what you have and just think you would have put back one of the chromosonally abnormal ones without the CGH on the eggs test if you hadn't had it. That is worse than not having any choice.
All you can do now is take care of yourself and your embies on board. You also have a frozen one in the bank don't you?

As for having a child already. Is pretty irrelevant when you want to move on in life. It is all relative so don't apologise for your feelings.

Yes my CGH then is a bit different. They will only test the embryos who get to day 3 stage ok. So kind of the reverse of yours. Both interesting to say the least.

Enjoy the caravan...

Thanks Josie and Duggs - I appreciate it. Unfortunately none suitable for freezing. I think you are absolutely right about too much info. Hope you get a good phonecall on Monday duggs

Good luck Josie that it happens this time .

Hi all,

I think I'm out, I've done 2 poas now and both negative. I'm not surprised i don't feel pregnant.

Dh and I now need to talk, but we are going to wait till Wednesday otd. Initially he was sure he'd want to try again, but this am he said he hadn't realised a negative would be so hard.

I don't know how I feel, I do wonder if adoption would be a better option for us,but I don't know how favourably they'd look at us

Oh kareba is this your first attempt!? I would also be interested in adoption but I don't really know where to start. I tried to look online at the weekend but it is a bit of a minefield. I am not saying this is it for you as I don't know your history but has always been a natural reaction when faced with negatives or miscarriages for me in past. Big hug to you x

Wow - loads of updates since I was last here! I've been trying not to obsess during the not quite 2WW, so haven't been here much.

Will try to read through today and get up to speed.

Testing tomorrow... [wuss emoticon]

Karbea hugs
Jumping best of luck for tomorrow

Rattling through it all...

Karbea sending you un-MN-like hugs - how many goes have you tried now? Is it too early to decide if this is the end of the AC road?

zeebee how are you finding the patches? Sexy, aren't they?! If I get my BFP tomorrow I'll be slapping them on my arse on a holiday later this month! Having said that, it will be a VERY SMALL price to pay!

Care, thinking of you - hope you're doing OK.

Raspberry, keeping everything crossed for your 2 embies - they're in the right place now so you just need to focus on them settling in. Don't feel bad about your DD and counting your blessings and all that - as Duggs said, it's all relative. Can I ask though, was she a natural conception, or assisted? Think of the fact that you had her means you can do this!

Duggs - wow, 13 fertilised! Hope the call is good news!

Afm, I've been lying down for 30mins after each cyclogest (to the point of setting my alarm early on the weekend to get them as close to 12-hours apart as possible!), de-stressing with Zita like my life depends on it, I've felt the calmest over the last couple of weeks than I've felt in a long time, but today the nerves are kicking-in. I keep wanting to run to the loo 'to check' as I've had a couple of twinges last night and today so am worried my period is about to catch-up with me (however I had a few twinges last week too - put it down to potential implantation in a hopeful manner).

DH has been lovely - not letting me do anything (was told off for cleaning the bathroom yesterday because of 'fumey products' and 'exertion'!), making me copious cups of decaff-tea, warming milk for me and all that.

He'll probably be the one reading the pee stick tomorrow as I'm already feeling sick at the thought.

Why does this feel like the end of the world when. whatever the outcome, it needn't necessarily be so (iygwim)?

jumping! I know such a hideous tummy churning moment. Thinking of u and dreading mine. Just got a call from clinic and down to earth with a bang. The 19 eggs turning to 13 isci fertilised on Saturday have dwindled to just 4 good embryos today I guess that is average and I should be pleased but those 4 r being sent for CGH chromosonal testing now. Results and egg transfer tomorrow at 1.30pm. She said I was now on normal stats at this stage do am desperately hoping one of my 4 embies is normal. Hope everyone else is ok. I am thinking if they all come back abnormal my next step is egg donation. If at least one comes back normal and doesnt work I need to try another round. X

karbea I am so sorry about your news - maybe you need to go for a blood test at the clinic just to be sure?

jumping yup loving the patches - one of them gave me a nasty red rash - so really enjoying that look too! They have given me boundless energy tho- mowed our lawn yesterday - cooked a roast dinner and cleaned out a cupboard - as DH spent the day nursing a hangover - ahhh the pleasures of NOT drinking!!
duggs sending you good vibes for the CGH test result...

Afm: just had another scan - womb is now 7.5mm so am FET'ing on tues 10th at 12.10pm. So excited. finally.

Waves to everyone else I haven't name checked