Flight BFP2012 - passport ready it's our time!

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Hi Ladies - this flight is going on Auto - pilot !
Feeling good things for all still wanting to stay aboard our Flight BFP2012- Welcome one and all!
As we share this journey!

Jam hope you are feeling better this morning. Maybe you should sit down with DP and find out exactly what the reason is behind going to a strip club!?! I think you need and deserve an explanation for this, especially as he has done it in the past as well.

Winkly well done on all the SWI!! Fx'd that there will be no disappointment for you this time :)

Well I am throwing the towel in - i am resigned to the fact that I am not going to get pg on my own. My body is clearly having a good laugh at me. I can't speak to DH about this stuff because he just keeps saying that we will get there and we just have to keep going, but it's hard when your body sends out so many conflicting signs. I feel so emotionally drained.

My temp dropped again this morning making me think that this is going to be another epic anovultory cycle. Can't even get a hsg because there is an 8 week wait :( I just can't understand the breast tenderness though. It's really bad :(

Anyway - much to do at work so hopefully that will keep my mind off things.

Hello everyone!

Sounds like everyone's having a bit of a bad week this week. :(

Jam - I'm so sorry. What a shitty thing to do. I hope you're OK!!

Moo - you must be feeling enormously frustrated and exhausted with everything! Is it worth POAS to check about the sore boobs? Hope you manage to get your appointment for hsg really soon (or, better than that you manage to get pg in the next 8 weeks on your own... And I don't think men really get it. They don't feel the same deep burning need that women feel (or most of them don't). And i think many of them struggle emotionally to know how to deal with TTC. Plus, it's less corporeal for them. they're not physically experiencing AF after AF and feeling so physically and emotionally drained by the whole thing!

winkly - sounds positive for you. Keeping everything crossed.

I've been having a bit of a crap week. Am in Turkey at the moment on a work trip (lots of travel for me which I think has put everything out of whack). Despite 3 x v v conclusive BFNs at the weekend, and suspicious cramping feelings AF did not show up. Got to day CD 31, 32, 33, 34.... 35... and I thought "oh my god, I'm actually pg. It was implantation I was feeling and that's why was BFN. When I get back from Istanbul am going to surprise DH with a BFP!" I checked back in my diary and haven't had a cycle this long before. Lay awake all last night absolutely exhausted after 3am taxi ride to the airport the previous morning thinking about everything and picturing what it would be like - and trying to stay rational.

Then at lunchtime today got horrific cramping and bright, bright red AF. No doubt at all that it's her. Had to come up to my hotel room to sleep this afternoon as felt so awful. Devastating. Honestly would have been so much better if she'd just turned up on time back when my hopes hadn't been raised instead of 5 bloody days late!!!

Anyway, onward to next cycle. Today is now CD1. Since I didn't get on with OPKs am going to try to figure out temping (although I think I gave up on OPKs too early - I must have ovulated really really late this cycle so perhaps just missed it - apparently stress and travel can do that - and I've had plenty of both!). Would be nice to know when I'm actually Oving!

Sorry - bit of a rant. Can't talk to anyone here as obv noone knows I was trying and am just with clients and feeling v alone in Istanbul far away from DH.

Jam hope everything is ok with you - we are here if you need to talk.

Flour so sorry that the witch got you, and worse that you are away from home. If you still have OPKs remaining from last cycle I would use them - try doing them from around CD10. I would use them once a day at around 5pm and as they start to get darker, increase the usage to maybe twice a day so you don't miss that surge. You could also try checking your CM for signs of impending ovulation. I would recommend temping, but this is only useful for telling you that you did ovulate and not that you are about to, so not much use in the run up.

Well temp went back up again..........i don't know what to think. POAS and BFN. I might be 9dpo, I might be 12dpo. FF is not really that convinced, has given me dashed crosshairs because my temperature has dipped below the coverline several times. Can't be a good sign. And I am cramping. Boobs don't appear to be as sore either. Ho hum........just have to get on with it all i suppose. There is not a lot I can do.

Oh dear, everyone seems so down in the dumps!

It will all be ok. I was there, and it happened for me.
Moo you're a bit more of a complicated sausage, but as I've said before, I had a colleague at my last place who had fertility treatment for her PCOS, and she's got 3 kids! (And not all in one go either). Trust that it will happen, you just might need someone to give your ovaries a stern talking to.

In my neck of the woods, I've got the jitters because I fell over at the weekend- onto my stomach- so am convinced I've flattened peanut. (tripped over steps coming out of kitchen). It's my knees and hands that were stinging more than anything, so hoping the fact they're still so tiddly will mean they're ok. My best friend said she was sure they were tucked away safely. WTF, is that supposed ot mean you think I'm fat? Rude.
Also, the skirting boards are proving to be more of a pain in the arse than anticipated. Especially as I haven't prepared properly and even got any bloody nails (bad Rusulka!)

And the MiL, who is coming for an epic stay in a matter of weeks, let slip that she's bought something for the baby. (...) When I said I'd asked her not to, she said 'oh, but it's only something small...'
Needless to say, I am absolutely fucking furious. My mum is foaming at the mouth, wanting to knit and buy everything in sight, and everyone has been so good and NOT bought anything, and then MiL just thinks she's above the law and can do whatever the bloody hell she likes. DH is furious. I'M furious. My dad is furious on my behalf, and my mum is going to go nuclear (lol). She's going to get a right bollocking when she gets here. And. I. Can't. Wait.

Less than a week now to 12 week scan and nuchal fold test. Once that's out of the way and results are back, we can all go mad and knit duck socks and buy non-boring babygros and all things hungry caterpilar. But until then...

Thanks for asking how I am, guys. I'm better, I went to my mothers for a couple of days to get space and think. Came home and had a nice valentines night in. Had a long chat. We're working things out slowly.

I'm about 5dpo so still in limbo land.

moo stay positive, you've only ovulated twice now right? You will get there, even if it's not this month. Maybe it will just take a while longer for hormones to adjust. Please stay positive x

rusulka hope you're ok after your fall.

flour thank you, I'm ok. Sorry about AF but glad you're feeling positive. Are you enjoying turkey? I'm half Turkish and love it there

Rusulka how lovely to see you. So sorry that you had a fall, hope everything is well with bean - bet you can't wait for the scan, it has come around so quickly!! I am sure that your friend did not mean anything by what she said, maybe she meant that the bean is nicely tucked away at the moment in your uterus and therefore well protected as it is nicely imbedded. A few months down the line and it would not be as well protected :)

You did put a smile on my face though with the antics of your MiL i can just envisage everyone getting very perplexed by the situation and your MiL completely oblivious. Bet it's really exciting thinking of knitting cute socks and the like :)

I know it will happen I am just a little frustrated that my body can't make it's mind up what to do. At the end of the day, there is nothing more I can do other than plodding on with life as best as I can.

Morning/Afternoon ladies.

I caved in and POAS this morning and thought that there was a hint of a line but not entirely sure. It was almost like a shadow, so I am putting it down to a evap/ghost line/eyes playing tricks. I am either 10dpo or 13dpo (FF can't seem to make up it's mind) but I have EWCM this morning when i checked - did not have this at this stage last month, so not sure what to think! Could I be ovulating now??? My CP is high and soft, but not all that open. Holy crap if I am because i am a) not in the mood for SWI and b) have hurty boobs etc, although they are no-where near as sorely as they were.

I am muchly confused!

Ah Moo. Your body is leading you a merry dance. Might be worth getting a quickie in, if you can bear it, just in case...

Jam so sorry, didn't mean to ignore your posts. Was DH with a load of other guys? Cos when there's a group of them, one gets an idea, and before you know it... I expect his judgement was a little impaired from drinking, especially if he hadn't been out for a while, and men do silly things, don't they? They don't think how it'll affect their ladies- or even think that it will! Lol.
Hope you feel better about things soon.

I'm got a right shitty on today. So far this week I have managed to get 2 bits of skirting board on, which is crap, and today was just about to put another one on- knocked an old nail back- only to be met by knocking on the wall from next door.
ARGH!
So I can't even put that one on until they've gone to work, by which time we'll be over at FiL's for tea. And when we get back, I'll probably be too knackered to do anything. Grump. DH is suggesting we work through the night, if we have to. I suppose it makes sense.

It's really irritating not having all the proper tools- what I wouldn't give for my dad's circular saw right now- but the skirting boards are so tall they don't fit conventional mitre boxes, so corners are proving to be a pain in the arse. The bits I do freehand are actually straighter than the bits guided by the box, lol.
And I desperately need masonry nails to finish the job properly. Grr. Not got those either!

Bet you thought the DIY updates would stop now. We were all wrong!

I wish I'd never taken the damn things off... even sanding the bloody things with a dremel would have been easier than this...

Rusulka I am loving the DIY updates, i have missed them. Bloody skirtings

I am not very good at DIY so have no words of wisdom to offer you, only good luck and you will get there. What's a dremel, btw??

I am not entirely convinced that it was EWCM now - i am thinking that it may have been.......ahem.........arousal fluid!! I had a, erm......rather sexy dream last night (this is not the first time in the last week either) and I think it may have had more of an effect than i realised

Thank you * I'm feeling better, yes it was an after work thing. He said he won't go again now he's seen it upsets me so much, esp as we are ttc.

I'm about 6/7 dpo trying not to ss but peeing all the time, probably too early for symptoms anyway!

moo what test did you use?

Jam I used an IC test. Don't want to spend any more money on tests until i get 2 lines :)

5/6 dpo is very early to get symptoms - the eggy won't even had time to implant yet and technically you can't get symptoms until the egg has implanted because up until that point your body is not even aware that you have conceived. Even after implantation, it can take a few days for hormones to build etc. Implantation normally occurs between 6 and 10dpo.

Hope that it is a good sign for you though :)

Ah thanks for that, didn't know implantation occurred so late! Good to know, prob a uti then

Boots do tests for £4 if you like, I know the IC aren't always reliable. When are you going to test again? I'd be doing it every day, prob twice a day if I were you! You have good willpower x

Prob try again in the morning or again tonight because i have no willpower

I have friends coming over at the weekend, and Saturday is likely to be messy, so ideally it would be good to know as soon as possible.

A UTI can be a very good sign. I have seen lots of pg threads where women got a UTI and then went on to be pg

Oooh really?! I think I'm just run down, had a cold since Monday too.

Good luck with testing again x

Hmmm, run down you say Jam interesting

Thanks - i am expecting a BFN and AF though, have some mild cramping and a spot (have been spot free for over a month now!!)

Could be IB, moo ? And cramping you say? Interesting..

All the swi has given me brutal cystitis. Pregnancy symptom or not, there is nothing good about a uti!!

Don't think it's IB, the spot is on my face unfortunately! Spots are also a symptom of PCOS, although weird that for the main they have completely cleared!!

winkly sorry to hear about the cystitis. Nasty stuff. Hope it clears up soon. Apparently Cranberry juice is good, but I've also heard that can cause it!!

@moo breakouts can also be pregnancy related.

Yy to the cranberry juice

Jam indeed I did not think of that. Damn it! Why do symptoms have to be similar to many things!?! Why can't pg symptoms just be different!?!

It's because mother nature is a tosser.
(I am still in a bad mood)

Rusulka you do make me smile. You are indeed though her and the witch are in cahoots I'm sure of it!!

I'm glad to see that people have cheered up a bit!

I hope the skirting boards start to behave themselves Rusulka. I know how frustrating DIY can be, in my last house I'd just prepped the walls in the bathroom for painting when a big triangle of plasterboard came off. I was too poor to get a man in so I codged it by gluing a bit of wood to the edge then using screws and lots of filler to reattach it. Every time I start a diy job I wonder where it's going to end...good luck for the scan!

Moo it's crazy how similar pmt/AF/pregnancy related stuff can be. And very very frustrating. My first test that made me think 'hmm' was vanishingly faint, so I hope it's the same for you Moo!

Jam glad you are feeling a bit better about stuff. Things always seem a bit easier given a bit of time. Have fun/drive yourself insane with symptom spotting!

Winkly cystitis, ouch! I've not had it but I've heard it's massively hurty.

I'm feeling at least slightly nauseous all the time now. Sometimes I'm feeling a lot nauseous but not actually throwing up. I'm not enjoying it much. The worst bit is my poor little puppy's smell is making me nauseous, it's just a normal doggy smell but for some reason it just really sets me off. Still, I am able to spend more time without an umbilically attached puppy - I started cooking dinner and he watched for a bit, then sloped off back to the living room on his own for a sleep. Thirty five minutes later I joined him in the living room, hurrah! The toilet training is a bit hit and miss though, it's very frustrating when you've spent ages in the garden only for him to pee on the carpet five minutes after coming in.

In other news, I've been spotting for 3 of the last 4 days. After a lot of umming and ahhing I made an appointment at the EPU (luckily I had the proper number and not the fax line Rusulka). It's brown and not enough to need a pad. What with the hurting boobs, sickness and continuingly strong lines on the IC I don't think it's miscarriage but my DP finally persuaded me it should be checked out. I reckon it's my cervical ectropion (that was frozen 17 months ago) that has reactivated due to pregnancy hormones. Hey, you never know, my theory might be right...still, I have a scan on tuesday. I'll be 6+5 so maybe just too early to see a heartbeat...not scared yet but daresay I will be on Monday night especially as my DP can't come to the scan.

Another epic post from me, sorry!

How is everyone on this fine Friday morning??

Rusulka hope you gave those skirting boards what for last night [girn]

sorry to hear the nausea has kicked in and that your poor little puppy seems to be the cause of it. Is he sleeping better now? If the ICs are still producing nice strong lines then the spotting could just be breakthrough bleeding or an aggravation of some sort; wise to get it checked out though. I can only imagine how worrying it must be.

I POAS this morning and it was BFN, not surprised to be honest. Then after doing some jiggery pokery on FF, my ov day has moved from CD13 to CD16, putting me back to 11dpo today

However, this sits better with the dip that I had on 8dpo (which if i ov'd earlier then this would have been 11dpo), which was also accompanied by some shortlived sharp poking/pinching whilst sat at my desk in work. It almost took my breath away it was that bad. I have never experienced anything like it before or anything like it since. My brain is in overdrive now thinking, nice dip, random pains - implantation???

Time will tell. I read somewhere that it takes 3-4 days after implantation for hCG to reach the blood and then 2-3 days after that for hCG to become present in urine. So.............my thinking is that if it was implantation on 8dpo then 12 dpo it should be in my blood and by 14/15dpo it should be in my urine. So I am going to hold out and test then.

All thoughts on my madness most welcome :)