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Ha yes we do try to wind her up a bit but the problem now is the DD is so absolutely gorgeous we'd be cutting off our own noses!!!

MIL took DD to a coffee morning at her old work with adults with learning disabilities and let one of the women with downs look after DD all morning and take her for a walk round the grounds! If SIL knew there'd be blood! That said, I half laughed cos not sure I'd be over the moon but then I know Mil is not stupid and she could see woman at all times. I (think) I'd be able to let go!!

As for no Santa, we are all distraught. I've read all the threads on here and other sites and see no viable argument for that being anything other than cruelty. DD has a very unusual name so they not helping the poor girl at all! SIL had no worse childhood than anyone I know and everyone in our family knows if anyone is allowed to play a woe is me card it's me but I never do cos life's just too damn short x
I like it here! Anyone want a glass of wine?

Oh puggy I love it, I wish I could meet her. Lol'd at the MIL and the visit to her work, SIL would really flip a lid. I'm sure MIL knew what she was doing though if she's experienced working with people with SEN.

Pass the bottle, I've just finished off my first glass while watching the first part of Great Expectations on the iPlayer, it was fabulous!

Hi Josie and glad you had a nice Christmas, I too had a bit of sadness about lack of baby, so longing to have little ones around and he excitement of waiting for Santa and waking at 3 am to open presents!!

Hey all,

Rasp was feeling a lot better but this evening I've got coldy symptoms & feel sick. Just want to sleep!

I too have shed a few secret tears over xmas at lack of baby, how many more must i endure childless - yes it is a time for kids.

I too, have a strained relationship with one of my nephews due to future sil - with the others & godchildren I'm really close & have great fun with them, but with this one just doesn't really come near me. He rarely leaves her side or he drags her with him to play with the others. My sister got bawlled out once for giving him a crisp & he's not allowed fruit juice or the same sweets as the others. There's more but I'm sure I'd b found out!!!

Oh I would def be found out if shes on MN but then She won't be in this thread.... Mil was gonna buy sil a magazine sunscription for her birthday but she was told she doesnt have time to read magazines now she has a baby! Then she got a kindle for xmas!!! Its laughable really. So on that basis she wont be on here.... Although she always seems to be on facebook!
Another (wine) anyone? I'm only on my second which is very unusual for me.... Its just not going down like normal. Wondering if its a sign but then only 2 days now to AF and the usual signs are beginning to appear.

Sorry I'm getting the hang of this...slowly!!

Hello. I'm newish.

I had the most utterly perfect Christmas with my two stepsons and have been doubting why I'd want to rock the boat but then I saw the last episode of Coupling which ends on two characters becoming parents and was sobbing rather excessively.

If I'm this crazy now what will I be like pregnant or more than two cycles into TTC?

Bleuch. Got the cold and AF just started - the upside is that my PMT vanished instantaneously.

Going on a skiing holiday in 2 weeks - perfect timing for ovulation shagging - hopefully we won't be too exhausted and sore from skiing!

Hello all dp and i decided 2 weeks ago to ttc for the first time so i thought id join you guys if thats ok :)
good luck to all those waiting for a bfp i hope all the christmas shagging helped xxx

Morning all! Although I've only just got up and it's nearly afternoon I'm getting far to into the swing of being on holiday! Don't go back til next Tuesday so that wake up call could be a nasty one AF is also definitely on the way. Did a test this morning, too early I know as I'm not due to test until Sunday morning but I caved and it was BFN but we got down to a bit of SFF this morning and had to stop because I got such bad cramps gutted.

fairy sorry you're not feeling well after recovering so well. Duvet day for you i reckon!

Hello Nearly and Waiting and good luck!

winkly skiing sounds like the perfect opportunity to get SWI - all that cold weather - you need to keep active to keep warm

Morning afternoon all! We've also just got up, though we both spent most of the night being pretty ill . I made turkey casserole with the leftovers from Christmas Day so am laying the blame on that.

I also has a mini-melt down in Boxing Day about not being pregnant/a mum yet. There were tears, snot, hyperventilating and everything . Christmas is a tough time for those of us ttc, particularly those of us that are having problems.

On a personal front I'm pretty sure I've ovulated in the last few days as my temperature has bumped. I'm having my Day 21 blood test tomorrow to confirm so will get the results back early next week. We got in much more sex this month, I'm just hoping it was enough!

hello all! I am new too :).

Just this month for first time started ttc, but was seriously clueless and misread opk so did it the wrong days. Thus unsurprisingly AF looms. Will try to get the basics right in the January attempt :)

Right now feeling rather discouraged nonetheless. Am quite old etc, so have to be realistic. And didn't realise it was so complicated and that the 2ww could be quite so torturous :)

This next question is a bit delicate but it would be wonderful to find some kindred spirits on it. Is anybody else ttc, but has a job they utterly love and does have a plan of eventually returning to work? Just lately i have seen quite a bit of the stress that can involve, but my job is a real vocation and hugely nb for me (part time is not really viable .... Famously works very badly in my sector and location).

Anyway, most of the ttc forums don't tend to mention adored work - in fact i couldnt find a single post on most of them which talked about loving one's job AND wanting to conceive. But those two feelings are not incompatible for me, so i would love to know if any of you feel the same way.... Or is it REALLY seen as a matter of one or the other?

WinterMymble - this is my first post on this thread as we've only just ditched the contraception (on Christmas Eve!) but I too really love my job and definitely intend to go back to work. Like you there's not a lot of scope for part-time work (I don't know anyone who's done that in my field/at my level) but otoh it is quite flexible in terms of sometimes working from home and my partner does a similar job with the same sorts of restrictions/advantages so I'm hoping we can make it work!

Thanks so much Kalidasa - that is how I feel too! It is great to know it is not an odd hope.

How exciting that you ditched it in Christmas eve. Hopefully by next Christmas you will have a little one to bat the tinsel about!

Hello Winter and Kalidasa, welcome to the madhouse!

As far as work goes, there are several threads on Mumsnet that deal with working mums. I too intend to return to work, I'm the only full-time worker in my office and I'm also someone who likes to be busy - as well as a full-time job and ttc, I am studying a distance learning degree, teach a weekly salsa class and am training for dance instructor qualifications!

Good luck to both of you, and don't be afraid to ask lots of questions - nothing is too trivial/silly sounding!

SantasCave i have total sympathy - Christmas seems an especially sharp time to notice children and the lack thereof.

I kept getting choked up at Aptamil adverts! (the second time around viewing it i tried in desperation to distract myself by ogling the conservatory :))

Hopefully all of us have LOs or at least BFPs by the next one. babydust to all in 2012!

Oooh SantasCave - how brilliant you are doing all those thngs including the studying! You are inspiring ... Makes me feel I can do more :)

I am starting to think keeping busy can also help distract from the 2ww hideousness ... Admittedly i have not yet really experienced the 2ww since we only decided to ttc for the first time this month and i got all the dates wrong, but i can see that when one is trying properly the 2ww would be pretty tricky. . I expect it is worse in vacations like now since i didnt have daily routine to distract. Unless ogling the Radio Times and wrestling over the Rose's chocolate tin counts as a routine. ;)

I am now on day 8 of my 2ww. I just want to know!!!

A friend of mine just announced she is pregnant with twins I was all

How is everyone else coping with the waiting?

Winter I'm the main breadwinner in our house so would have to return to work! I'm a supply teacher at the mo - needed to take away the stress of being in the classroom full time to help me concieve. Not sure how this will work once we finally have a LO but I from the few conversations I have had with my parents, they will take over the care when I have assignments. I also think that maybe Supply teaching will benefit as I will be able to spend more time with them on my terms. TBH - I don't know many stay at home mums & certainly don't know any teachers who left completely or went 'part-time' at their school.

I've been waiting a long time & friends & family announcing pregnancy still gives me a sting. Yes, I also have shed a few tears at adverts - the current one being the dad setting up an email account for his daughter when she grows up with all the memories! But I can also cry when a lost child on Bondi Rescue is reunited with a parent!!!

Fairy you teach too! I'm in education as well. It is brilliant your parents will help ... They will love that too. (we haven't got any parents left, so we're on oir own ... Eeep).

Grin - yes, those adverts are pretty effective. Well.... Hopefully by next Christmas we will all be their target market :) BFP for all!

Limejelly Fingers crossed for you. Waiting is ghastly. I am waiting for AF so we can get started properly ... Now i know what an opk means! (last month i thought it meant 'languish back and no point in SWI' - an idiosyncratic interpretation all of my own ;)

Lime, do you have any favourite strategies for enduring the 2ww?

Nope, no strategy! I'm a Teacher so on holiday at the moment and I have nothing to take my mind off it, will be easier when back at work.

Me and DP have been discussing what will happen in regards to me returning to work after having the baby too. I'm hoping to go part-time if school lets' me. Already a few part-timers where I work though so will have to wait and see.

I love my job as well but as my husband and I both work shifts its hard to see how we'll manage. I'veworked really hard on developing my career this year and don't want all the effort to be wasted either.

AF was a false alarm! 2 days later and nothing but that little bit of spotting on Wednesday.

My parents live down the road (can drive me mad at times) so will only take a few mins to drop them off. My dad has retired so it'll be mainly him helping out. Of course I'll pay him for his trouble! Really I'd like to only work 3 days a week but it's hard to get a full time teaching job doing that where I live.

have you been trying long Winter?

Hi everyone, just dropping by quickly while I'm at work. I am reading anovel that DH got me for xmas about a woman who's grandfather used to own and run a bakery when she was a kid, he's not in a home, but she is unexpectedly made redundant from her office job, so on the spur of the moment she starts renting a business property and opens the "Cupcake Cafe"! Very appropriate methinks So I am now all inspired and stuffs If I do ever open a bakery I hope you will all come up to the north east and visit

Winkly shifts do sound a challenge... Though i have heard quite a few people say that different shifts makes child care easier? I hope it goes smoothly :)

Fairy We haven't really started trying yet ... Decided to try to have kids just two weeks ago (!) - still a bit dazed about it. We gave it a whirl a day or two later but I idiotically didnt realise that it was totally the wrong time of the month -- this is complicated, isn't it! :) We will try properly again mid Jan, when i think is the next feasible 'slot'.

Josie that sounds like a lovely book. It reminds me of the book Baking Cakes in Kigali, which filled me with a passionate longing to rush forth and create masses of multicoloured sponge cakes. (cooking is not my forte thiugh .. My hsband is better at that :). Do you make cupcakes?