Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling or settle yourself down in our padded cell. All welcome! (Part 19)

[Poppyjen]

Another new thread for some more serious metalling - we really are a chatty lot!

Here's to making it through the WTF cycle(s), metalling* like a teenager from the early '90s in the 2WW, BFP colds and other classic symptom spotting and hiding in the (nice and comfy) padded cell post BFP

If you have miscarried and are ready to TTC again, come and join us!

• For those currently wondering what our mosh pit antics have to do with ttc post MC, a fabulous typo in an earlier thread resulted in "mentalling" becoming known as "Metalling" - a far more fitting expression I am sure you will agree!

Welcome!

Yeah poppy fantastic news!!!

And pie at your test results!!

maja sorry to hear about immune system and crazy hormones - which may in themselves be the cause of the spots, dry patches etc etc as your body tries to regulate itself again...I seem to remember that I got phases of crazy spots post MC too. Not easy though...

Sorry to hear about AF making Christmas visits to people - so cruel!!

All well here, just plodding along, DH working this afternoon/eve so the flat feels very quiet at the moment, which is making me sleepy swiftly followed by frog like croaking and lots of coughing as I seem to have picked up an annoying cough/sore throat thing which is just so annoying especially as I can only take paracetamol which don't seem to be doing a thing and not feeling the need to battle through the hoards to try and see a pharmacist or doctor about anything else I could take pie I'm with you all the way re. online sales shopping...so much better than fighting with the crowds!!

Thanks everyone

Still sinking in - DH is absolutely ecstatic, I think it will take a few months weeks for me to get past the feeling that it isn't real... I think after so long staring at BFNs, or faint BFPs which then vanished to be replaced by bleeding I am having a hard time believing the tests. As you say it is great for there to be no questions though (thank you CB digi). All I need to do now I guess is sit tight and push for an early dating scan as I really wasn't expecting that "2-3 weeks" result. As it stands my due date would be a few days away from my birthday

Another instance where Clomid has been ready and waiting in the cupboard only to be not needed....it must be strong stuff!

Blue when I was pg with DS I got the mother of all colds and a friend on mine (opera singer....sigh....) told me to take hot water with lemon juice, freshly grated ginger and as much honey as you can stand. I have to say it really did the trick and was quite yummy. Other than that you have my sympathies, I remember staring at the Daynurse and being unreasonably cross with it

Awww congrats Poppyjen. Lovely for you. Wonderful.

Sorry I got all maudlin everyone. I'm just cross with my lack of results and also getting constant pain in the region I can only assume is from my giant ovarian cyst, something I'm also waiting to be sorted out.

Anyhow Christmas was actually lovely, though we didn't have much festive shagging bar a quickie or two Christmas Day.

I am having an odd cycle, can't feel any OV pain due to the cyst pain so I could be anywhere between 1-8DPO. I have huge amounts of work to do though so I'm setting another testing deadline, after all the work is done which should be after Jan 12th. No POAS till Jan 12th!

Ooh ooh poppy congratulations! Wonderful news. Just a quick one as typing on phone but big whoop whoops for a bfp New year

Morning all, mini moan from me as silly cough actually made me sick last night and seems to be going down onto my chest...been pretty dry so far...grrr...looks as though I'm gonna have to try and get a docs appointment tomorrow! Oh, and I forgot to mention that our washing machine broke on boxing day and the engineer can't come til next Wednesday so need to go to my friends when they get back from their Christmas away time today to use their machine....grumble grumble...

Right...now that I've got that out of my system...let's get this party planned for a NY celebration in anticipation of all the lovely BFP's this thread is going to see in 2012 let's say goodbye to 2011 in style and welcome in a better year for 2012!!

Thanks everyone. I feel better today. I'll just have to stock up on the vitamin B6, look after myself and wait it out then...Ah well, maybe it's time to treat myself to some posh skincare & new make up then :o

Blue really sorry to hear that you are unwell- Poppys grated ginger, lemon & honey tea does work though. You really have to go for it, have one every two hours (yes, the grated ginger will go everywhere but such is life), you'll feel much better within 2 days max.

So I'm too wrapped up in stuff for a couple of days and come back to poppy s fab news - hurrah! I actually nosed at your chart, I think, yesterday or day before (when you had a couple of 'open' temps) and thought 'that looks like more than 10/11dpo and it's going steadily up - looking good!'. I'm so happy for you!

Ladies, for who had a teary Christmas (despite the happiness around) I'm there with you. Christmas day I had a ridiculous ragey/uncontrollable crying meltdown. Infact, I cried everyday over the Christmas holiday. As has been said, it's an emotive time anyway and I was all too aware it was this time last year I conceived Teddy; that I ought to have a snuggly three month old celebrating his first Christmas. It wasn't in a maudlin way, exactly, it is just a truth. I suspect 'firsts' are the hardest - I hope so anyway! And, despite what most of us would think, being pregnant right now didn't seem much of a comfort (it's been mentioned here before but I think it's worth saying again because we latch onto getting pregnant again as a bit of a cure all for the pain we have - ime, it's a comfort, yes, but not a cure. And there's no point feeling bad when you find that your 'new' baby doesn't wipe out your pain. It's not that you don't love the new baby, or love it any less than the baby you have lost... just that you love the lost baby all the same).

Oh, maja, yes your hormones will be causing most of the issues you're experiencing. I'm an advocate of B100 (it's a high dose B-vitamin complex) that has surprisingly good results for many women, balancing their reproductive hormones, easing effects of stress hormones, and improving egg quality (once they make their appearance again!). I forced encouraged a few ladies here to give it a go and I think there have been positive stories all 'round, from bringing O forward in long cycles, to lengthening short luteal phases, to bfps!

It's so hard, but patience! You have to cut yourself (and your body) some slack. It's been thrown for a loop, but with a little kindness (from you) you WILL get right back on track and next thing you know you'll be looking at another BFP. Hang in there.

just popping in to say whoop whoop for poppy that is great news, do you think its the metformin which did the trick??

manda hugs, that must be very hard indeed to deal with.
mseltoe you poor thing, its all so hard to deal with isn't it?

I am feeling a bit blue today about lack of pregnancy, I should have been starting NCT next week and instead I am not even pregnant again. Went shopping yesterday and there were bumps everywhere, tormenting me :(
We have had plenty of SWI this cycle, its actually been brilliant and fun too which has not always been the case but I am not feeling hopeful at all this cycle for some reason.
Here is hoping to a happy and healthy 2012 for us all.

Thanks Manda. I think you are right, I think I need to try & take it a bit easier. I'm just going to try and accept that I'm not at my best, physically & emotionally & try to be patient and wait it out.

Do you know where I can buy B100? I've been looking in various websites but couldn't find it. It sounds exactly what I need!! xx

It appears I can't read. I was looking for B1000 instead of B100 and since the B1000 doesn't seem to exist, it's quite difficult to find... :o

I got mine from good ol' Holland and Barratt - Ooh, lovely, half price right now!

You WILL experience bright neon yellow pee whilst taking these - nothing to worry about although shocking if you're not expecting it

Brilliant!
Bright neon pee, how exciting. Thanks for warning me though. I'm so paranoid about my health at the moment but bright yellow wee would have had me reaching for the nearest exorcist! :o

manda I have avoided the tears but have very much been thinking about how my lost LO was due at the beginning of December and would very much have been THE focus of Christmas this year I've managed to keep myself busy which seems to have helped but it's still there nagging in your head!

Thanks for all the advice on the ginger/honey/lemon cocktail, I unfortunately am totally off ginger after ODing the first week I had MS so stuck with the honey/lemon variety but then found I got awful heartburn, then had one of my worst coughing fits and was then quite sick...lovely...have been hacking away again today so DH is forcing me to the docs in the morning not that I'm expecting them to be able to do much

With all this rain/cold/grey I keep thinking of pebs in Oz, hope she's having a good time with lots of SWI

marthas how was your hotel night? Are you in the 2ww now?

far sorry to hear you're feeling down, I found I had sudden moments when it all came crashing down on me again, and as manda posted earlier it can keep happenning, but hang in there...glad you've had some good, enjoyable SWI this cycle...that's so important as it can easily become a chore!!

mseltoe I am impressed at your POAS deadlines!! Hope the work goes well and provides a good distraction from the 2ww.

Right, off to find the sofa...though that means moving a pile of ironing, can I be bothered to do it right now?!?!?

Hello all, thank you so much for the lovely messages :)

I am in full metal mode now - stretchy sharp crampiness in lower right hand side prompting constant knicker checking I remember that I had exactly the same with DS (I was so worried about it I ended up with a series of early scans but all was well) so I am trying not to worry. Currently curled up on sofa with hot water bottle.... Trying to stay as positive as possible, it is hard but I am trying to let myself be excited. There's every chance things will turn out absolutely fine so I am concentrating on that!

Re VitB discussion, I second Manda, in fact after previous discussions on this thread I started taking that along with Agnus Castus and I am sure it helped to shorten my long cycles and to lengthen my luteal phase. Also my skin has never been better, my nails are lovely at the moment. I am also taking the B100 from Holland and Barratt.

Far I definitely think that the Metformin had an effect this month, purely because my pre-O temps were much higher than they had been. I used to get them in the 35.7-35.9 range which is pretty low, this cycle they were above 36 which is much more normal. That said I will never know whether it was that that enabled the BFP, but my gut feeling is that it did the trick as the consultant said it would :)

Blue so sorry you are still feeling rubbish, hope things perk up soon - have a (with absolutely no ginger )

Hello all

Pleased to say that I have a festive BFP. Stressing already about Christmas indulgence in all the wrong things. The line on the test was very feint but hoping that's because it was evening pee. Will test again in a few days in the morning to confirm.

I know I won't be happy until I have an early scan in 4 weeks.

Well, here's to more BFPs!

Fingers crossed for you Millonthefloss Here's to darkening lines!

OMG I leave for the in laws for a few days and you lot are multiplying!!!! congratulations to poppy and mill - such a wonderful time and I shall be keeping everything crossed that things continue on positively for you both!!! Xxxx

To catch you all up, gramps was allowed home for Xmas which was lovely but they have told us they won't be doing anything about his heart. The consultant gave him a 25% chance of 'coming off the table alive' and so he agreed with them that it wasn't worth it. Im now desperately hoping he can hold out until this little one is born so at least he gets to meet her.........bloody sad and horrible to be thinking that way but there isnt much that can be done.

Sorry ive been absent again - my life seems to be getting busier despite the fact that I'm moving slower now than I ever have. Xmas was only ok as we were worrying about gramps. But got some lovely items and have been out in the sales shopping for the LO so she is steadily managing to accumulate a substantial wardrobe......even managed to get DH to be excited about all in one pink snow suits.... .

blue so sorry your feeling unwell - most of my pregnant friends have been 'full of cold' over the past couple of days and are suffering with it. Oh and don't worry about the ironing - rest and recuperate!!!

far sorry your feeling down - (this goes for mseltoe as well) I remember feeling taunted by the bumps and wanting to shout at all pregnant women. I clearly remember wanting to go up to pregnant women and ask them how they did it? What was the secret? I just couldnt understand how they had done it while i felt like my body had failed me. The best advice given to me on here is not to make assumptions - looking at us as a good spread of ages and background its obvious that MC (early or late) affects a heck of a lot of women and the TTC part is not simple, straightforward or easy afterward. It isnt easy and many people dont get it - so make sure you come to us and let it out. Hopefully 2012 will bring you both lots to celebrate and a wonderful new little life to enjoy. Xxx

Manda just read your post and was really teary - don't really have anything i can add but wanted to let you know that I was thinking of you and that I hope (as you do) that things will get easier as the time passes. Not that you will ever forget but managing how you feel about it all will become easier over time, IYSWIM.

Big wave to everyone else - I've missed loads of you off I know but I really need to tuck myself up in bed and keep the cold that is threatening me at bay!! Love to all xxxx

Congratulations Millonthefloss! Fingers crossed for those strong lines.

Ah my POAS bans are only for my own sanity. I actually hated knowing I was pregnant at only four weeks last time, it was awful, panic inducing knowledge that helped no-one - and it meant I walked around knowing I was pregnant for four months before I lost it, which seems a long time. With baby one I didn't find out until I was six weeks and with baby two I was over 20 weeks - I'd much prefer that again to be honest. Saves a whole load of metalling.

But seen as I am actually TTC I'm trying to strike a balance between not finding out stupidly early and driving myself bonkers and not being irresponsible and ignoring the fact I'd probably be pregnant if AF wasn't showing. If that makes sense. Also I could be anywhere from 3dpo-10dpo today so whats the point in drivng myself nuts, we've been too busy for more than a few quickies this week anyway! I'm focusing on our break away in Feb, it's be annoying to be preg for that so let's hope that means I will be, haha.

I was tucked up last night with my hot water bottle for ovarian cyst pain so I have sympathy poppy (Also trying not to metal about the fact I haven't had it this bad or sustained since I was actually pregnant)

Millonthefloss Congratulations! Here is wishing for dark lines too!

MsEltoeNWhin I know exactly how you feel. In a way, it was good that if AF was coming, it came on Christmas days, otherwise I would have been testing before every single glass of wine, just in case.
Last time I also found out I was pg ridiculously early (2 days after my period was due) and I think it made the mc much harder because at 12 weeks pg, I had spent 8 thinking about it.

Ah, woke up feeling the pits today. I had looked forward spending NYE celebrating my 16th week of pregnancy, staying home with DH, overeating chocolates & watching movies. Instead, I have AF cramps and some party I don't fancy going to but I should because I can't stay a miserypants forever. Gaaaaah!

Moral of the story: No matter how much you fancy Javier Bardem, do not watch Biutiful while a bit down.

Afternoon all...just popping on to wish you all a very Happy New Year and sending lots of positive thoughts all your ways for 2012... raises to a good 2012 for you all here's to lots of enjoyable SWI, successful (and quick TTC!) and healthy beans all round!!

And also just to say a HUGE thanks to all of you who have been such an AMAZING support over the last 6 months or so, been great to know you're all here for the and the of all of this and for those and moments when it all just gets too much...THANK YOU

Typing on phone again so just a quickie to congratulate mill on the festive BFP!

Also to wish you all a wonderful 2012 with lots of bumps and babba's

Me and DH had a lovely night in our hotel with a cheeky SWI thrown in

Am completely metalling as I got some spotting yest at 12DPO not due AF till next week so keeping FX it is a burrowing bean

Looking forward to our virtual party later!

Doofus moment. Not 12DPO but 9DPO yesterday so looking good

maja You'll get there - push yourself to go out if, knowing yourself, it will help... but if, knowing yourself, you know you will hate every moment perhaps reconsider - I hate the pressure of New Years Eve Gotta have the BEST time! and, even without a pregnancy, there's nothing wrong with a quiet, intimate evening with DH, reflecting, reconnecting, looking forward. Hope you feel less pants soon!

blue Lovely words which I heartily echo. Mumsnet, this thread in particular, has been an amazing support/lifeline at a time when it was most needed.

Martha I'm resisting the urge to squeee! Spotting at 9dpo is a TRES good sign!