TTC for 10+ months, part 4

[eurochick]

Time for a new thread as the other one is just about full.

Fingers crossed for lots of patiently-awaited BFPs on this one!

MrsDen I guess it depends how good your GH sperm are. If you've no issues (sorry can't remember) then i'd go for it as much as is humanly possible.

sat at home at mo with BBC1 on and they have a 41yr old ttc for over a year and going to docs. Do I watch or find something else quickly? Now just discovered the man of the story has "No lead in his pencil, firing blanks and hadn't told his partner"

karbea that's the problem, DH has very bad sperm . There seems to be such conflicting advice about what is best. My gynae said we should do it as much as possible, that there was no such thing as too much. But then I've read that you should leave time to replenish. And then I've also read that it's important to have frequent clear outs because it's not good for the swimmers to be hanging around and they die off.

cakes I find that every programme I watch has something ttc related in it. Also in every book I read. I've also noticed over here that every weather forecaster and newsreader is pregnant too.

cakes I don't think it matters about AF, they've seen it all before. I had to have dildocam when I was still bleeding and gynae didn't bat an eyelid.

cakes don't put off the appointment. At mine, I just got referrals for tv ultrasound, HSG and rubella test, plus a 2nd SA for hubby. They gynae did do a brief internal but if you are bleeding very heavily or in pain I am sure they could do that at a later appointment if they want do.

Thanks for the replies. I don't know if this makes me 'luckier' than some but I've seen this consultant before for abnormal smears, so at least I know what he's like, i'd def go for thorough and helpful for a description of his work. Glad it shouldn't matter. On the 'euro scale' I don' think I class as too heavy anyway. My 2nd LH/FSH results are in but Dr hasn't looked at them yet so she's phoning tomorrow.

Just seen an internet headline that says Kate Middleton is 6weeks pg, no fair she got married after me.

I just looked at the link to the spunk fritatta thread. Could somebody pass the mind bleach please?

cakes - I agree. Don't put off the appointment, I was bleeding when I had the dildocam too - the nurse wasn't bothered at all. I was a bit embarrassed beforehand but it was fine in the end.

mrsden - our nurse at the AC unit said three days throughout the month is best to allow the good stuff to build itself up. Any longer than a week (which is quite often for us with my drawn out spotting and bleeding) means all the bad stuff gets stored up and won't be much good so, in the nurse's words, he needs a good clear out before the optimum time! But like you said, everyone you speak to has different words of wisdom

Hi all, i'm finding it very difficult to catch up and keep tabs with what everyone is saying!

cake - that's great you've up your LP. Mine has never been longer than 11 naturally. B6 didn't seem to do anything. So perhaps it has worked for you. Although my gynae did research in to it and she said it doesn't do anything yet that differs to what others report.... I've also had scans when i'm bleeding. So don't worry about hat.

karbea - i left FB just for because i didn't want to read those posts anymoer.

mrsd - . They do say that if the man does have low sperm count then you should leave it at least every other day. They should not go for longer than 5 days though without ejaculating. My DH's sperm count halved when when he left it 4 days for the IUI and then it halved when he left it 3 days so i guess it would halve again with 2 etc etc. But then i would think the ones at 2 or 3 days will be better quality because they are newer.
I'm very passive as well and just stay away from any arguments. It's all terribly sad. MiL was appallingly rude and i'm mortified that a load of people will know about dh and i not being able to conceive as this email has done the rounds. I've told friends but i don't want other people knowing. It just adds tot he feeling of failure. I've got to go to the nephew in law's christening in a few months where all these people will be. urggh

I do actually think Kate M is pregnant but further along than 6wks. I am waiting on tenterhooks for the news because it's going to annoy me everytime i see a picture of her. Pregancy jealousies have no limits and anyway I saw my gynae for the first time just before their wedding and she said that i was going to ovulate on their wedding day and I would have to call my baby Will or Kate...if i got preggers. and 7 months on....Calm, peaceful thoughts Joy.

appalling English sorry,!!

Wow - the spunk frittata thread made very interesting reading, I'm shocked by the amount of detail and even the advice on how to masturbate!

Cakes I'm not sure if it is the microgynon, the pill or my crap body! Just hoping it is not the latter!

Joycep I'm not sure the Vitamin b6 is doing anything, its probably just a coincidence but it makes me feel like i'm doing something. Also re: the Royal wedding I remember shagging while watching the royal wedding as I was ovulating (waited until they had exchanged the vows obviously ).

Wow, lots of posts since yesterday evening! Anyway, thanks all for responses re 21 day test and reassurance re lack of abstinence! Will go with booked test and see what happens. This thread is a mine of info, had never heard of that 5 day thing, joycep, will bear it in mind! Oh an sorry to hear about your mil, I thought mine was bad (she knew we had been ttc for ages but told me ivf is "an abomination")

My lueal phase has gone from 11 to 13/14 days but I am not sure if it's the AC, the B6 or the acupuncture that helped!

An abomination?! That's awful Caffeine, as were your MiL's comments Joycep. I just don't understand why some people can't just live & let live.

Thanks for the kind words Lemon. I felt a bit wobbly earlier in the month & tried stepping back from Mumsnet a bit. You lot really are lovely though & it's so nice to know that there are other people having similar struggles that it must be good for me!

This thread really feels positive & what with the Amy Winehouse song I was listening to on the radio on my way home (Our day will come, I think it was called), I'm hopeful that there must be at least a couple of BFPs soon for us - here's hoping!

Do I know about b6? What does it do?

Who was it who said we needed a rou d up? I think we should especially as we have newbies and a few of us going to clinics etc

Thanks for the welcome back everyone and glad that the sperm fritatta has re-emerged!
Joycep I know what you mean about pregnancy jealously knowing no bounds - I shall be pig sick if old Middy is up the spout, she's not been married 5 minutes.
Why am I so bloody bitter? Oh yes, hang on - I got my period today. Harrumph.

mrshy poo to af. I'm not getting any sneaky time on MN at work at the moment and I just can't keep up! Thoughts of the day are:

The sperm frittata still makes me feel bleugh.
I feel totally pissed off that a certain person is more than likely pregnant. This is unreasonable behaviour.
Today's hypochondria is....drum roll...I have immune issues. Based loosely on something my acu said about my allergies. Am refusing to google because I don't do that anymore, I read instead.(got a free book from MN yesterday, yay!) But euro I'm really interested in hearing about your testing. Is is a complicated thing to get done?
I'm tentatively suggesting we do a bit of a roll call in list fashion, without meaning to be too like the buses..I will start, but do say if you think it's a duff plan.

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.

Hellos to everyone new and not new, I'm office working tomorrow so will try to sneak in more.

Right here goes, I?ll try to catch up!

Welcome back from Honeymoon stasi, glad you had fun, such a shame to come back to reality though! Good luck with AF (or rather, no AF).

Welcome back to the thread LadyGee mrsHY1 and Fatima - hurrah for imminent IVF, for you and your egg recipient. I remember you and the lovely witch nurse

Hello to gin eggytoast cakes and caffeine - a great list of vices . Oh also loup, sorry about your MC :(

Sorry your cycle is still ongoing izzy - what are the doctors saying?

Eek to the email joyce, will Christmas still happen??? 5 eggs is great, huge fingers crossed for this month!

Good shagging, mrsden . Before work is very impressive!

Loving the Euro-scale! On that, I?m medium medium light light super-light

lemon I refuse to do my FB stats because I know they will be horrible! Even though it's not an actual competition, I know I'll be the loser.

Haha to PG brain biscuits. I am actually considering jumping on the Brooking bandwagon. I am fairly sure that (I hope you don?t mind me saying this..) most of our BFP?s on here have been 2nd children. Whilst just as lovely, amazing and hard-earned, it gives me less comfort, if that makes sense . In that, I haven?t ever been pregnant, so I literally don?t know if I can :(

Oh that?s a very miserable thing to finish on so I?ll just wave to the others I haven?t name checked, and say hurrah, it is Shag Week . I somehow don?t think our shagging several times a day plan will be in action this month (for clarity, it?s never been in action, but OH seems to think we need to try it .)

I don't mind a catch-up list once in a while

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.
nelly ttc 15 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 33, first SA all normal. Still not organised enough to get second set done, or indeed get round to further investigations. So unexplained so far. Perhaps I'm just too old.

You're not too old nelly! let's keep correcting each other with positives

You know Nelly I don't want to agree with you , coz I know i'm not supposed to but, you are right I don't remember anyone getting pregnant when it was their first baby... BUT! We are all moving on to more treatments so we will get some BFPs.

Urghh i'm annoyed I gave my wedding dress (that I didn't wear) to an agency and they've just emailed me to say that can't sell it, and I need to pick it up. It's so annoying as it's trendy dress (Candy ANthony), it's not worn, and I don't mind how much I sell it for, it cost me about £1800k urghhh

Ooh, I've just had a look at the Candy Anthony website & those dresses are lovely Karbea you've not been able to sell yours.

Here are my stats:

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.
nelly ttc 15 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 33, first SA all normal. Still not organised enough to get second set done, or indeed get round to further investigations. So unexplained so far.
Pixiepops ttc 12 months, me 35 - blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Starting clomid next cycle, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.

I know, it's so annoying, i'm sure someone would love it.

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.
nelly ttc 15 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 33, first SA all normal. Still not organised enough to get second set done, or indeed get round to further investigations. So unexplained so far.
Pixiepops ttc 12 months, me 35 - blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Starting clomid next cycle, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.
Karbea ttc 13 months, me 37 - blood tests all ok, not further tests done yet. DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means). Going to ARGC on Monday! Yikes!

First roll-calling, then replying to you lovely lot (twas my idea, she says proudly )

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.
nelly ttc 15 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 33, first SA all normal. Still not organised enough to get second set done, or indeed get round to further investigations. So unexplained so far.
Pixiepops ttc 12 months, me 35 - blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Starting clomid next cycle, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.
Karbea ttc 13 months, me 37 - blood tests all ok, not further tests done yet. DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means). Going to ARGC on Monday! Yikes!
LemonDrizzle ttc 16 months, both 32; all tests done at 12 months: nothing wrong with me (except slight irregularity, but we are talking a range of 24-31 days, with most 26-28), DH's SA okay but low volume and possible (head) morphology issues - after deliberation they sent us home to try more. Next step is IUI in Feb, then IVF in summer/autumn. Debating whether I want intervention yet, because it took my parents 6 yrs.

Puts hands over ears and runs away - I don't want to think about Kate added to the ever growing list of overtakers and even less so about only second DC BFPs on this thread. I know a few people in our situation in RL, and they have had their first BFP at 14 and 13 months respectively (and thus become overtakers as well).

So there.

GRRR about AF mrsfrittata. And about the return of the nice but expensive dress karbea. I need to pick up mine, later today, it went back to the seamstress to be repaired (she offered for free :-) ) when the lace was falling apart a little. I cannot believe I have been married for over a year . Nelly you are NOT TOO OLD. Just so you know.

Good to have you back pixie, but sorry you were wobbly. I find coming here quite helpful when I am.

I still have no idea what to do re: frequency mrsd, we were told every other day by our gyn, but quit after two months of that. Now we are whenever we feel like it. Which apparently was at 4am this morning. Well, I am due to ovulate today or tomorrow, so I am not complaining and it was nice too. So Shag Week (c Nelly) is nearly over here. Time does fly by (she says in a fluster about all the work she should have done rather than chatting earlier this week ).

Caffeine an abomintion

Waves at wine and looking forward to chatter lateron :) Now however, I need to get started!!